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Quote from: criptix on February 19, 2016, 07:39:52 PM

You guys should check out the sumerian mythology/religion.

A lot of our world religions have their roots in their.
Creation of the world and men, paradies, great flood and so on.

This is also no surprise because usually if a new dominant religion is emerging the old one will be partly assimilated to make the transition as smooth as possible.

The thing that brought Sumer and her contemporaries down is the fact that they had turned to believing in many false gods. This is the thing that got them destroyed by the One Great God in the Great Flood of Noah's day.

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You guys should check out the sumerian mythology/religion.

A lot of our world religions have their roots in their.
Creation of the world and men, paradies, great flood and so on.

This is also no surprise because usually if a new dominant religion is emerging the old one will be partly assimilated to make the transition as smooth as possible.

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Quote from: af_newbie on February 19, 2016, 07:15:31 PM

I interested in the first few books, as the rest is the same nonsense.

Wiki says:

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Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers[edit]
From the late 19th century there was a general consensus among scholars around the documentary hypothesis, which suggests that the first four books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers) were created c.450 BCE by combining four originally independent sources, known as the Jahwist, the Elohist, the Deuteronomist, and the Priestly source.[9] This approach has since seen various revisions,[10] yet while the identification of distinctive Deuteronomistic and Priestly theologies and vocabularies remains widespread, they are used to form new approaches suggesting that the books were combined gradually over time by the slow accumulation of "fragments" of text, or that a basic text was "supplemented" by later authors/editors.[11] At the same time there has been a tendency to bring the origins of the Pentateuch further forward in time, and the most recent proposals place it in 5th century Judah under the Persian empire.[12]

I'm really interested what are these four sources above. Who combined it together?

It is clear it was all made up by people. I'm more interested in who did this.

Some answers might be found in the what we know about the ancient cities of Ugarit and Byblos.

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I interested in the first few books, as the rest is the same nonsense.

Wiki says:

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Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers[edit]
From the late 19th century there was a general consensus among scholars around the documentary hypothesis, which suggests that the first four books (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers) were created c.450 BCE by combining four originally independent sources, known as the Jahwist, the Elohist, the Deuteronomist, and the Priestly source.[9] This approach has since seen various revisions,[10] yet while the identification of distinctive Deuteronomistic and Priestly theologies and vocabularies remains widespread, they are used to form new approaches suggesting that the books were combined gradually over time by the slow accumulation of "fragments" of text, or that a basic text was "supplemented" by later authors/editors.[11] At the same time there has been a tendency to bring the origins of the Pentateuch further forward in time, and the most recent proposals place it in 5th century Judah under the Persian empire.[12]

I'm really interested what are these four sources above. Who combined it together?

It is clear it was all made up by people. I'm more interested in who did this.

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Quote from: af_newbie on February 19, 2016, 06:59:41 PM

Quote from: BADecker on February 19, 2016, 06:57:59 PM

The "why" part is easy. John 20:30,31 says:

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Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

To find the best ideas of the "who" part, Google "Who wrote the Bible?"

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I was thinking about the Old Testament, like the creation story etc.

Unfortunately, we have no idea who wrote the creation story originally. The structure of the written form suggests greatly that it was copied by Moses rather than written by him.

Moses had access to lots of historical material in his position as "adopted" prince of Egypt. And, according to what he wrote in the Bible, he knew that he was a Hebrew.

There are those Bible scholars who think that Adam, or someone who talked with Adam, was the one who actually wrote the first 2 chapters of the Bible that Moses copied over. But, nobody knows for sure... at least that it is public knowledge. Nobody knows what literature the Vatican Library might have in its possession.

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Quote from: BADecker on February 19, 2016, 06:57:59 PM

The "why" part is easy. John 20:30,31 says:

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Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

To find the best ideas of the "who" part, Google "Who wrote the Bible?"

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I was thinking about the Old Testament, like the creation story etc.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorship_of_the_Bible

The Pentateuch:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_hypothesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahwist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuteronomist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestly_source

The gospels:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_source

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel#Dating
   Mark: c. 68–73, c. 65–70.
   Matthew: c. 70–100, c. 80–85.
   Luke: c. 80–100, with most arguing for somewhere around 85, c. 80–85.
   John: c. 90–100, c. 90–110, The majority view is that it was written in stages, so there was no one date of composition.

Bear in mind that Jesus died when he was 33(?)... and the average lifespan at the time was around 30 years... so anyone writing ~100CE was not an eye-witness (John, Luke, Matthew)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synoptic_Gospels#The_synoptic_problem

I hope this clears everything up for you

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The "why" part is easy. John 20:30,31 says:

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Jesus did many other miraculous signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

To find the best ideas of the "who" part, Google "Who wrote the Bible?"

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I always wondered about the historical roots of the books in the Bible.

Who wrote the books of the Bible? When were they written? Why someone wrote them?

Were they inspired by God?

Wikipedia does not list the author(s):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorship_of_the_Bible

It seems weird that 2 billion people in the world follow this book but nobody knows who wrote it.

Comparison of Genesis' first Creation Story with Enuma Elish, a Babylonian creation story

The Babylonian creation story is called by its first two words "Enuma Elish."
According to archaeologists, it was originally written circa 1120 BCE.

It was discovered in 1875 CE. It bears many points of similarity to the first creation story
in the Bible:

Item	Ancient Israelite Creation Story	Babylonian Creation Story
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Source	Genesis 1:1 to 2:3	Enuma Elish
Date of writing (liberal belief)	8th or 9th century BCE	Late 12th century BCE
Date of writing (conservative belief)	13th century BCE, the time of Moses	Late 12th century BCE.
Author (liberal belief)	"P," authors of the Priestly tradition.	Unknown.
Author (conservative belief)	Moses.	Unknown.
Creator(s) of the universe	Multiple Gods, Elohim.	A God battling a Goddess.
Initial state of the earth	Desolate waste; covered in darkness.	Chaos; enveloped in darkness.
First development	Light created.	Light created.
Next development	Firmament created - a rigid dome over the earth separating the earth and heaven.	Firmament created; also perceived as a rigid dome.
Next development	Dry land created.	Dry land created.
Next development	Sun, moon, stars created.	Sun, moon, stars created.
Next development	Creation of men and women.	Creation of men and women.
Final development	God rests and sanctify the Sabbath.	Gods rest and celebrate.

source:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/com_geba.htm

According to Christian History, the Earth is 7330 years old. Bible (66 books) was written by 40 writers over 1400 years period.

source: http://www.bible.ca/b-bible-timeline-religious-history.htm

Some disturbing verses from it:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crazy-shit-bible-says-crazy-shit-christians-say-1367154

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