Why Bitcoin is different from other means of investment - page 6.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 15, 2023, 05:48:38 AM

Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment, it has become obvious that Bitcoin presents a good investment opportunity. Many people even use Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat is plagued by inflation. One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.

I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments. This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.

Anyone still doubting the freedom, comfort and peace that Bitcoin offers is probably yet to embrace reality.

What gives you the clarity that those properties are actually build where they are supposed to be build on? If you are ready to pay me bigger amount of money for lands that illegal to build anything on I could consider taking that money from you, and also people loves illegal things very much, they believe with money anything is possible but they don't know that it's completely foolishness to spend money on something that's not plain and pure.

Do not be too fast to talk trash about your government, if roads are meant to be build on that land then it's illegal, we are currently facing this problem in my street, some crazy people bought land and built houses on it and those spaces are meant for drainage and now we are facing issues when there is rain, there is no space for dirt water to flow by, I am just waiting for the government to come to the rescue and start demolishing those houses.

People are just so greedy, those lands are sold to them for cheap price and they don't consider that they are taking a big risk building the houses where as it's left for main road and water drainage, so I have nothing much to say about the link you drop, I know how people behaves when it comes to properties and building houses.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 15, 2023, 05:48:38 AM

Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment, it has become obvious that Bitcoin presents a good investment opportunity. Many people even use Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat is plagued by inflation. One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.

I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments. This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.

Anyone still doubting the freedom, comfort and peace that Bitcoin offers is probably yet to embrace reality.

Definitely a sad outcome for those that bought those properties, but this just proves that we need to be incredibly careful with every purchase that we make, especially the big ones, as you do not want your investment to evaporate or be destroyed like it is the case here, however as good as bitcoin can be as an investment and as a store of value, it would be irresponsible to not mention that you can lose your bitcoin just as easily if you are not careful, so it is important to not idealize bitcoin either or you may find yourself in the same situation as those people.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on October 16, 2023, 05:15:37 PM

Let's be realistic on this matter. I like Bitcoin due to its financial freedom and volatility. Bitcoin gives us freedom of money; we can spend it wherever we want. No one will ask questions about where we are spending our funds. On the other hand the volatile gives us opportunity to take advantage from that and make money. That is why we are investing in Bitcoin in order to profit. So it's true that major investors consider Bitcoin an investment opportunity beyond the original goal of Bitcoin creation.

It is true that bitcoin brings us many different benefits as you said such as financial freedom, we can use it anywhere with just a smartphone with an internet connection, storage is quite easy, and it can be carried anywhere...But volatility is the factor we care about the most because I believe there is no one who doesn't like to make a lot of money, and bitcoin meets that better than real estate or gold. But it cannot be denied that real estate is a very good asset and investment. If someone does not want to take risks and prefers safety, they should choose real estate because they can create passive income by renting, and the value of real estate will increase over time.

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Bitcoin as an investment means is good, but I will prefer to diversify and invest also in real estate. If you have the money to invest in real estate, it would be good. But as you invest in bitcoin with $500, you can not invest in real estate with that low amount of money which is one of the reason bitcoin can be better in that way because with little amount of money you can invest in bitcoin, unlike real estate. The advantage of real estate is that the property you have do not devalue but continue to appreciate.

Many people have tested Bitcoin investment to discovered is very good for humanity to achieve so many things that will make he or she grow financially and materially in the society. Operating many investments include Bitcoin is a good things that will help you to grow higher, because whenever there is a bearish season in the market, you will hold your Bitcoin until the massive bullish season occur before you can sell to make income. And you can make a huge amount of money from your real estate investment, and invest the money on Bitcoin which is the common strategy many investors are using these days to improve their investments in a way they will remain wealthy for their children to inherit the wealth and investments from them.

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Quote from: dezoel on October 17, 2023, 02:49:09 AM

The government cannot capture your land if you have it in your name with all the valid legal documentation available because you can always file a complaint if something like that happens.

The government can still reclaim your land even if you have all the legal documents, if they really want to reclaim the land for their own purposes, you won't be able to do anything to them. But that happens very rarely and those are just rare cases. In general, any investment will have risks, including real estate or gold, and bitcoin is no exception. Maybe our bitcoins won't be unjustly robbed or confiscated by the government but we also face many different dangers. Bitcoin is also not completely safer than real estate or gold.

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There are different forms of real estate or properties, just like there are different kinds of cryptocurrencies. You can't compare a flat or an apartment with Bitcoin, but those who compare real estate with Bitcoin or say it's a safer investment are basically referring to lands. The government cannot capture your land if you have it in your name with all the valid legal documentation available because you can always file a complaint if something like that happens.

The demolishing of buildings is bad for investors and also for those who might be living in those apartments, but apartments have never been a very good investment unless it is situated in a location where you know there are absolutely no chances of the government or any authority intervening.

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Quote from: uneng on October 16, 2023, 12:47:32 PM

Quote from: Odohu on October 15, 2023, 05:48:38 AM

I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments. This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.

Despite this example, real estate is still a very decent investment alternative to store your money value in a stable way, generate passive income through renting and to make your patrimony more valuable within time. Besides being pretty safe. Even in case the government seizes your property for some reason justifying common good, it's expect they pay you a fair price for that, but you have to be legal with the scripture of your property. They can't simply steal or destroy what is your without any good reason to back their decision.

To replace real estate investment by Bitcoin isn't a good idea, as a smart investor should take advantage of both methods.

There will still be unexpected risks but that will not make real estate lose its appeal. Although we want to promote bitcoin as the best and most superior asset, we cannot hide the fact that real estate is still the safest and best investment channel today. People will still invest in it and view it as the most valuable asset they have. Through what the OP said, it shows us that nothing is absolutely safe, including bitcoin, and diversification is what we need to do.
Honestly, it would be foolish for someone to have a large amount of money and invest it all in bitcoin, an asset that is considered the riskiest compared to gold and real estate.

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Let's be realistic on this matter. I like Bitcoin due to its financial freedom and volatility. Bitcoin gives us freedom of money; we can spend it wherever we want. No one will ask questions about where we are spending our funds. On the other hand the volatile gives us opportunity to take advantage from that and make money. That is why we are investing in Bitcoin in order to profit. So it's true that major investors consider Bitcoin an investment opportunity beyond the original goal of Bitcoin creation.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 15, 2023, 05:48:38 AM

I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments. This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.

Despite this example, real estate is still a very decent investment alternative to store your money value in a stable way, generate passive income through renting and to make your patrimony more valuable within time. Besides being pretty safe. Even in case the government seizes your property for some reason justifying common good, it's expect they pay you a fair price for that, but you have to be legal with the scripture of your property. They can't simply steal or destroy what is your without any good reason to back their decision.

To replace real estate investment by Bitcoin isn't a good idea, as a smart investor should take advantage of both methods.

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Diversifying your investment portfolio is a wise approach. Both Bitcoin and real estate have their unique advantages. Bitcoin can be a more accessible entry point for investors with limited capital, as you mentioned. However, it comes with higher volatility and risk. Real estate offers stability and the potential for appreciation over time, but it typically requires a larger initial investment and ongoing maintenance costs. It's also less liquid than Bitcoin, as selling real estate can take time.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 15, 2023, 09:27:29 AM

This has become a popular trend in my country; politicians target the businesses and properties of opposition. Maybe they all read 48 Laws of Power.

I guess it's not only in your country; most African and Asian countries have the same problem. The last party change in my country was over a decade ago, and if I remember correctly, a lot of on-going projects stopped, and a lot of people lost their business, their freedom, and many more. I know things will change once the party changes again.

Quote from: Odohu on October 15, 2023, 05:48:38 AM

I am viewing it from the aspect of investment, which is in line with the topic of discussion, and not base on needs.

I am not saying that Bitcoin is safe. Bitcoin is safe, but it's virtual and volatile enough. You have to keep it for the long term if you want a good return. You cannot sell it whenever you want if you need urgent money. If you sell, maybe you have to sell at a lose. So, invest in something that is stable, and you can sell anytime. Invest in Bitcoin too. But do not rely on Bitcoin only.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 15, 2023, 04:42:50 PM

All investments have risk. Both the real estate business, gold and cryptocurrencies have a full-time risk. I put cryptocurrency in front because it involves both Bitcoin and all the rest of the digital currencies, but I will say that when we talk about Bitcoin, it is much different from other cryptocurrencies based on the kind of influence it has.
Bitcoin is not a thing for a short time, you just have to be patient, hold and keep on accumulating for a long time, but when considering gold or a real estate business (investments) it all depends on how much your capital, but in Bitcoin you can buy the little you can afford, then hold.

every type of investment has their own risk, so you need to gauge what kind of risk you want to handle. there are also pros and cons for each type, assess and see where you stand. it also depends on your financial situation.because some can hold long term whereas, others are only for short-term profits. and as such, you are the only one who can fully understand your capability on this matter. you can read financial advise or opinions, however, at the end of the day, you are the one who will be calling the shots involving your funds.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 15, 2023, 05:48:38 AM

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There does not always have to be a "devastating" argument and it is worth using that adjective in your reference, but bitcoin does not need a literal example to buy it, just as there is bitcoin for those who want to protect the value of their assets, the competition is tough in the equivalence of other types of hard money for such purposes. But regardless of the case you mention, the real estate sector is one of the great "consumers" of "guard" for whatever reason, whether it is short-term investment or for "savings" purposes or the most common case: inflation vs. acquired asset.

So the point is, you have to access bitcoin and in reality the financial asset you want based on your convictions and not because of the fact that a building is being demolished, which may be violating regulations or simply arrived the time to be demolished.

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All investments have risk. Both the real estate business, gold and cryptocurrencies have a full-time risk. I put cryptocurrency in front because it involves both Bitcoin and all the rest of the digital currencies, but I will say that when we talk about Bitcoin, it is much different from other cryptocurrencies based on the kind of influence it has.
Bitcoin is not a thing for a short time, you just have to be patient, hold and keep on accumulating for a long time, but when considering gold or a real estate business (investments) it all depends on how much your capital, but in Bitcoin you can buy the little you can afford, then hold.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 15, 2023, 05:48:38 AM

Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment, it has become obvious that Bitcoin presents a good investment opportunity. Many people even use Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat is plagued by inflation. One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.

I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments. This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.

Anyone still doubting the freedom, comfort and peace that Bitcoin offers is probably yet to embrace reality.

It is just unfortunate what has happened to the investor who has invested heavily in that estate that was brought down. Maybe there was some kind of consolation for him for the loss, which is something expected if the property was something obtained legally and was correctly approved. Correctly approved means he did not lobby for the land and project to be approved when it was against structural plan, or not a land suitable to purchased and used for such purpose. If the land was lobbied to be obtained then what has happened to him and his investment is something that has just been delayed.

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When it comes to the matter of investment, it has been well recognized that Bitcoin has been tested as a long-term investment because, apart from the fact that it started at a low cost, many people have embraced it and believed in it because of its usage and features.

That's why many of its fans have changed their lives because of Bitcoin. And maybe because it has a decentralized nature and can also provide good future savings to anyone. And there are other reasons too.

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Quote from: Odohu on October 15, 2023, 05:48:38 AM

I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments. This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.

That’s largely true! Living in a state where it was a common practice for the governor, looking out for land to grab in the name of the state government and later converts it to an investment of his own desire and ownership, you begin to wonder if you ever made the right choice in buying properties for an investment choice ot should have sort a more different line.
In most cases, they get compensation and at other times, nothing at all. Though, I discovered there is an advantage to some. In compensated cases, you get a chance to erect a more modern building but, the disadvantage is always large as, you lose a good site and don’t get full value for your wise choice over the years.

Unfortunately, as much as I would want yo side Bitcoin, I would t be so Pro-Bitcoin by placing it ahead of Real Estate, both are good choices I would say.

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Talking about the real estate investment, knowing fully well that the loss of the property is very painful , but government will not just demolish a building just like that so there's something wrong, I will prefer if you drop the link of what happened and how it started. But before owning a property especially a building terms and conditions are involved. I can still remember in my community when my state government sent police to destroy peoples properties (house) just because the houses was close to the road. The fact is both real estate investment and bitcoin investment are risky and still have advantage.
You can't force someone to love bitcoin investment, so I don't see any reason why people argue about real estate and bitcoin investment because it sounds funny sometimes. What's the purpose of bitcoin? Bitcoin is just a digital asset while real estate investment consist of land and building, both with there advantages and disadvantages

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Quote from: Odohu on October 15, 2023, 05:48:38 AM

Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment.....

In the beginning, bitcoin was introduced just for speedy transactions across borders and to reduce the influence of government on your assets and avoid third-party persons but today bitcoin is very vast and people now know the bitcoin as a good source of investment as compared to others and there are many reasons of it. One of them is you can invest even a small amount of money in Bitcoin but for others like real estate, you require a huge amount you can't start it with a low budget. Every investment has its own risk whether you invest in Bitcoin, real state, or give to the bank they all has risk but apart from Bitcoin they all are under the government influence and Bitcoin gives you the freedom of this and make you the owner of your own money and this is the biggest difference and most people choose bitcoin over them.

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Bitcoin stands out from traditional investments for its decentralized nature, free from governmental control or intervention.

No any other asset class comes close to these 3 main pillars that make Bitcoin the 'king' of crypto with its decentralised nature and limited supply.

Take real estate, for instance, it offers tangible assets, it's also susceptible to local regulations, political shifts, and physical damages.

Bitcoin, on the other hand, operates on a global scale, immune to local policy changes and physical threats. It's a digital asset that provides a unique blend of autonomy, security, and potential for growth, making it a distinct and modern investment choice - a medium of exchange that does not care about your background or who you are - the most fluid asset there can ever be.

This is why Bitcoin is causing so many ripples in TradeFi.

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