Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 109. (Read 901373 times)

Are you your own God?

Why do you need to "add words" into your God's sentences? Is your God not good enough?

That is where you are doing the twisting.

I am only reading the exact words of your God. Are you?

Hmmm.... Saying "do not murder" and then saying.... "put to death". Pretty certain that is an inconsistency.

What part do you not agree with?

Actually, the passages that you listed show lots of cause and effect. Just because the passage words don't literally state the words "cause and effect," doesn't mean the cause and effect isn't expressed.

For example. Just because nowhere in the passages are the words "pen" or "pencil" or "ink" or "paper" or "sheep skin" literally mentioned, doesn't mean that the Scripture wasn't written down on paper or parchment.

Sounds like you are the one doing the twisting.

Thanks. You need only one little thing. You need to express what you think the inconsistencies are.

Timothy 3:16-17, "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

Peter 1:20-21, "You must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit."

This highlights that the authors of your Bible say it was God who wrote it through them..... So your God's words are there for you to see. Nothing written about Cause and effect. Once again you have twisted your thoughts to fit an agenda and make it appear as proof.

Please try again.

@Badecker....

You have asked me twice now to show you the inconsistencies in your bible..... so here is a couple of very basic ones which I hope you are able to read without twisting the words to suit your own meaning.

Genesis 1:3-50 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:14-19 14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Exodus 20:13 “You shall not murder.”

Leviticus 24:17 “Whoever kills any man shall surely be put to death.”

There is 2 very simple ones.... should you wish for more I am sure I can find them.

Virtually all nudists wear clothing now and again. That doesn't stop them from being nudists, just as it doesn't stop religious people from claiming to not be religious.

God isn't Someone Who can be easily understood. He might be moved, but He doesn't change.

God doesn't direct every book to be written by His desire. Often He is simply following the requests of the hearts of those who write the books, when He directs the way those books are written.

The Bible is the only book God directed to be written from His own heart. He allowed His faithful writers to use their own words, even though He was the One doing the directing, rather than the free will of the writers.

You are, without realizing it, examining the pain that Jesus suffered on the cross. He, as God, allowed all kinds of evil including evil writing, because that was what people were asking of Him. It hurt Him deeply, even caused His death, to uphold this mankind-corrupted universe even though He was perfectly righteous. He did it to give people the opportunity to be saved from their corruption.

Soon Jesus will return and completely destroy this universe.

Humans create the Gods.

@CoinCube  The link you mention gives the following script:

Belief in God, according to atheists, is irrational, illogical, and dumb. Belief that the universe created itself is, they say, intelligent, rational, and based in science. This is simply false. Nothing can create itself. Everything has a cause -- including the universe. That cause, argues Peter Kreeft, professor of philosophy at Boston College, is God, the "unmoved mover." Belief in God, as Kreeft shows, is more rational than belief in nothing. Logic, science, and reason, support God. Atheism, as you'll see, is far more steeped in blind faith than is belief.

When I read the paragraph I became aware that 'God' is referenced as being the "unmoved mover". If 'God' is the "unmoved mover" then I am terribly dispappointed in Him/Her/They or most likely IT. Why? Because I am moved by movers, not un-movers. This 'God' who would supposedly be a "unmoved mover" is a clockwork type of God who only sets things in motion (brilliantly of course) and then leave it to just tick along perfectly (in its flawed state that is - when it comes to homo sapiens). I cannot have fellowship/proper relationship with this 'God' who is the "unmoved mover" How the heck did IT figure this clockwork "creation" out to bring forth ("create") homo sapiens who is ultra personal in their dealings with one another if IT itself is not capable of being 'moved'?

My GOD is the 'BEING MOVED by ALL' - the SUPREMELY MOVED ONE.

Not God directs man to write books. Are you familiar with examples of when God inspired an illiterate man write a book? In the books people Express their thoughts. There is a book "the ABC terrorist." It is also God wrote?

Nobody knows the science of cause and effect that makes man write what he writes. Cause and effect caused man to write the Bible. God directs cause and effect perfectly. So, God caused the people to write the things of the Bible that they wrote.

You say that you God speaks through the Bible, but the Bible was written by man. What does God do? In addition to her many controversies which have no logical connection.

The knowledge of the existence of God is in the evidence of nature and the proof of science:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

The belief in God is accepting the things He tells us in the Bible, even though we may not understand how they are true.

I am opposed to mocked and joked about the feelings of believers. In any case, they sincerely believe in God. If you cannot convince them, it is primarily talking about the lack of arguments you have. Any dispute must be tolerant.

Your God, because He holds you alive. The funny thing is, that if you don't acknowledge Him in this life, He will prove Himself to you in the judgment, but by then it will be absolutely too late for you to be saved.


You mentioned in a different post that you were more caring than I. Here I am, trying to save you for eternity, and all you can do is accuse me of trying to turn people into zombies. You are the zombie. Stop resisting true life.


Like standing on the cliff with your eyes closed. One more step and you are gone for good.


You are soooo caring that you are disappointed in me? LOL.


As I said in another post. First you go this way, then you go that. You contradict yourself all the time. Of course, when one looks into the details of your life, he can see that most of them aren't contradictions at all.

The details of the Bible show that it doesn't contradict itself at all.


You simply don't accept that believing in Jesus IS following the commands of the Bible.



It is my loss that I am talking seriously with you, but you are joking with (and maybe trolling) me. But others may see and learn. So there will be benefit to some, through the joking that you do.

Atheism is a religious denial of religion. Being a RELIGIOUS denial, it becomes a religion, and all the more so when it is thought about and spoken about by the atheist. Atheists who think and speak about atheism are forming dogmas about it in their lives. Atheism IS DEFINITELY a religion.

In all the controversy in websites, between atheism as a religion and atheism not being a religion, those sites that show atheism is a religion, do it by showing the similarities between atheism and other religions. Those who try to explain that atheism is NOT a religion, usually get away from the point, and start condemning the idea that God exists, rather than showing how atheism is not a religion. Atheists that do this are the most religious of all atheists, because they are adding dogmas to their simple religion.

A strong argument can be made that belief in God is more rational then a belief in atheism.

See:
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/god-vs-atheism-which-more-rational

For one such argument.