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legendary
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September 14, 2015, 11:19:28 AM

You seem to want to fight your atheist opponents with a spear and sword. Why not fight them with modern armament like I am trying to teach you to do?

Smiley

Words are for magicians not for fighters.

Yes, we all are in witchcraft to some extent. Ours is not a world without sin. After all, if you do not spell your words right, your writing is ineffective. So, learn how to cast the "spell" (spelling) the right way, and use the right grammar and thinking behind your "spell," so that you can be effective in the fight. This way you can become a warrior magician.

Smiley
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September 14, 2015, 11:18:31 AM

You seem to want to fight your atheist opponents with a spear and sword. Why not fight them with modern armament like I am trying to teach you to do?

Smiley

Words are for magicians not for fighters.

This is what happens when you listen to the Catholic teachers and not the bible....(Please read the bible sometime) In the beginning was the word.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God

Ephesians 6:10-18 (The armor of God)

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10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 11:14:17 AM

You seem to want to fight your atheist opponents with a spear and sword. Why not fight them with modern armament like I am trying to teach you to do?

Smiley

Words are for wizards not for fighters.
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 11:00:14 AM

You should be thanking me. After all, if I or someone else could straighten you up a little, your answers to the atheists might become effective.


We are fighting atheism, don't confuse your opponents BADecker.

Smiley

:-|


Thank You.

You seem to want to fight your atheist opponents with a spear and sword. Why not fight them with modern armament like I am trying to teach you to do?

Smiley
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September 14, 2015, 10:57:10 AM
And what do you think happens if you don't confess your sins to a priest before you die?
You go to hell.
Why confess to a priest? Instead of confessing indirectly to God via some self-appointed third party, why not just confess to God directly?
You cannot forgive yourself. You need a priest to forgive your sins or speak to your father directly. Don't overestimate yourself.
Then why does the bible say you can ask for forgiveness for your sins? Oh, and the priest can't forgive you, only the Lord can.
Because you can.

You can ask for forgiveness but you cannot forgive yourself.
Only the Lord can forgive you, not the priest. If you believe the priest has to power to forgive you, you are worshiping a man and not the Christian Lord.
The Christian lord is the pope.

A priest can forgive you as he receive mandate from the pope to confess you.

Wow Shocked, the pope has self-appointed himself authority over God who gets forgiven or not.


This is why many people believe the papacy (not just one pope in particular) to be the anti-christ. It is clearly not Christian to believe you must be forgiven by a man (pope/priest) instead of the Lord. Especially when the bible clearly says the Lord's prayer in it, where you ask for forgiveness from the Lord, not a person. The Pope also says it is dangerous to have a personal relationship with Jesus in this video: https://youtu.be/AHdqSXWFO6M?t=2m10s
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 10:53:39 AM

You should be thanking me. After all, if I or someone else could straighten you up a little, your answers to the atheists might become effective.


We are fighting atheism, don't confuse your opponents BADecker.

Smiley

:-|


Thank You.
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 10:47:14 AM
Many Christians believe that Jesus is their savior and justify this by faith, not realizing that Jesus never once suggested that he was my savior; such believers should make better use of their reasoning faculties. I value good actions more than faith. Man is a creature of reason, so it is good to use reason when debating facts; it is too bad that so few are aware of the evidence of the afterlife or else we would have far more reasoned discussion about these topics; I feel that this evidence can be used to prove the existence of a supreme being, and help show the way to atheists. Some atheists have so much "faith" in their own worldview that they prejudicially dismiss all evidence of life-after-death and thus behave irrationally. Faith seems to be an irrational and dogmatic state of mind, so I will instead advise the seeker to read it ALL and then decide in wisdom of knowledge.

See: http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html

You cannot defeat atheism with Reason. You need to defeat atheism with Faith: Faith is religion's tool atheism is Reason tool.

You cannot play with the weapons of your opponent unless you'll want to die.
I have faith that God will give me enough of the wisdom of Solomon (see Proverbs and Ecclesiastes) that I will be able to defeat atheism by reason, through faith.


I was once an atheist, so if I had been deserving of death then, and was killed, then I would never have been redeemed.

You were killed because you didn't follow some rules. First rule is knowledge leads to death (as the Genesis episode states clearly). You probably faced knowledge and then didn't cared about the consequences. That is what most people do.
But you have been given (forced into) temporary life here on earth, through the Son of God, Jesus the Christ, so that you can come to faith in Him, so that you gain eternal life rather than eternal death. It is a gift of God. It is not good works or lack of bad works that does it.



Also, if you say "atheists should die", then there must be someone to do the killing.

You are changing the verb of my sentence: this is not agreeing.

If you don't agree state that clearly, although I do appreciate the partial agreement: a partial agreement is better than nothing.

This is not God's will because God does not destroy. When you say "this is the will of the Father, this is the will of God, this is a theological conclusion", you have to realize that it is coming from within you, for that is where God resides.

Are you high? After the Genesis episode the Bible is all G-d destroying and rebuilding.

It is since the Original Sin that men are pushing G-d to the limits and G-d is destroying everything he built for the men and rebuilding again (Babel's tower episode as first).




Wow Shocked, the pope has self-appointed himself authority over God who gets forgiven or not.


What are you talking about: the Pope is the vicary of Christ on earth?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primacy_of_Simon_Peter

This is really basic catechism: you'll learn that in 1st primary school from the Country were I came from.

At the resurrection of Jesus, Who were the first people to see Him after He was made alive again. Weren't they the women? The women were first to see Him after His resurrection.

Why were the women the first to see Him then? After all, the women do not hold a prominent place over the men in the New Testament, and very seldomly in the Old. Wasn't it because they were there, at the tomb, after He arose? But the men weren't.

Similarly, the only reason Peter was held up above the rest of the apostles was he was there. In life before he met Jesus, he was a but of a forward person. He was among men what a "woman liber" is among women. He was pushy and boastful to some extent. And God simply used it, BECAUSE HE WAS THERE.

----------

Notice the fickleness of Peter in the following Bible verses. The Roman Catholic Church probably DOES follow the pattern of Peter. If you look at all the Papal Bulls, you can see the fickleness of the Church over the ages. But God never changes. So why follow the fickleness of Peter? Matthew 16:16-23:
Quote
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.

From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.

Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”

Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”

When Jesus said "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it," He wasn't enlisting or recruiting or installing Peter as His vicar here on earth. Rather, He was making the distinction between Peter and the church.

As long as anyone holds to the expression of faith that Peter expressed, that person is part of the church. It has nothing to do with promoting Peter as vicar, or setting up a head of the Church on earth. We can see below that, that Peter was even called Satan by Jesus. However, that is the way the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Rome often act... like Satan, basing salvation on good works or lack of bad ones, rather than basing salvation of the work of Jesus on the cross.

Peter denied Jesus before Pilate, when Jesus was being judged, just before He was crucified. Sure, it was a moment of weakness. But by his denial he was not included as one of the apostles until he was reinstated by the arisen Christ. See how it happened by reading from the Gospel of John, chapter 18 to the end.

Smiley

Why did you replied to answers made for other people BADecker?

You have a discipline problem and is especially seen in this statement when you refuse authority:
However, that is the way the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Rome often act... like Satan, basing salvation on good works or lack of bad ones, rather than basing salvation of the work of Jesus on the cross.

We are fighting against atheism, don't confuse your opponents.


Thank You.

You should be thanking me. After all, if I or someone else could straighten you up a little, your answers to the atheists might become effective.

Smiley
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 10:44:44 AM
Many Christians believe that Jesus is their savior and justify this by faith, not realizing that Jesus never once suggested that he was my savior; such believers should make better use of their reasoning faculties. I value good actions more than faith. Man is a creature of reason, so it is good to use reason when debating facts; it is too bad that so few are aware of the evidence of the afterlife or else we would have far more reasoned discussion about these topics; I feel that this evidence can be used to prove the existence of a supreme being, and help show the way to atheists. Some atheists have so much "faith" in their own worldview that they prejudicially dismiss all evidence of life-after-death and thus behave irrationally. Faith seems to be an irrational and dogmatic state of mind, so I will instead advise the seeker to read it ALL and then decide in wisdom of knowledge.

See: http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html

You cannot defeat atheism with Reason. You need to defeat atheism with Faith: Faith is religion's tool atheism is Reason tool.

You cannot play with the weapons of your opponent unless you'll want to die.
I have faith that God will give me enough of the wisdom of Solomon (see Proverbs and Ecclesiastes) that I will be able to defeat atheism by reason, through faith.


I was once an atheist, so if I had been deserving of death then, and was killed, then I would never have been redeemed.

You were killed because you didn't follow some rules. First rule is knowledge leads to death (as the Genesis episode states clearly). You probably faced knowledge and then didn't cared about the consequences. That is what most people do.
But you have been given (forced into) temporary life here on earth, through the Son of God, Jesus the Christ, so that you can come to faith in Him, so that you gain eternal life rather than eternal death. It is a gift of God. It is not good works or lack of bad works that does it.



Also, if you say "atheists should die", then there must be someone to do the killing.

You are changing the verb of my sentence: this is not agreeing.

If you don't agree state that clearly, although I do appreciate the partial agreement: a partial agreement is better than nothing.

This is not God's will because God does not destroy. When you say "this is the will of the Father, this is the will of God, this is a theological conclusion", you have to realize that it is coming from within you, for that is where God resides.

Are you high? After the Genesis episode the Bible is all G-d destroying and rebuilding.

It is since the Original Sin that men are pushing G-d to the limits and G-d is destroying everything he built for the men and rebuilding again (Babel's tower episode as first).




Wow Shocked, the pope has self-appointed himself authority over God who gets forgiven or not.


What are you talking about: the Pope is the vicary of Christ on earth?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primacy_of_Simon_Peter

This is really basic catechism: you'll learn that in 1st primary school from the Country were I came from.

At the resurrection of Jesus, Who were the first people to see Him after He was made alive again. Weren't they the women? The women were first to see Him after His resurrection.

Why were the women the first to see Him then? After all, the women do not hold a prominent place over the men in the New Testament, and very seldomly in the Old. Wasn't it because they were there, at the tomb, after He arose? But the men weren't.

Similarly, the only reason Peter was held up above the rest of the apostles was he was there. In life before he met Jesus, he was a but of a forward person. He was among men what a "woman liber" is among women. He was pushy and boastful to some extent. And God simply used it, BECAUSE HE WAS THERE.

----------

Notice the fickleness of Peter in the following Bible verses. The Roman Catholic Church probably DOES follow the pattern of Peter. If you look at all the Papal Bulls, you can see the fickleness of the Church over the ages. But God never changes. So why follow the fickleness of Peter? Matthew 16:16-23:
Quote
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.

From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.

Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”

Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”

When Jesus said "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it," He wasn't enlisting or recruiting or installing Peter as His vicar here on earth. Rather, He was making the distinction between Peter and the church.

As long as anyone holds to the expression of faith that Peter expressed, that person is part of the church. It has nothing to do with promoting Peter as vicar, or setting up a head of the Church on earth. We can see below that, that Peter was even called Satan by Jesus. However, that is the way the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Rome often act... like Satan, basing salvation on good works or lack of bad ones, rather than basing salvation of the work of Jesus on the cross.

Peter denied Jesus before Pilate, when Jesus was being judged, just before He was crucified. Sure, it was a moment of weakness. But by his denial he was not included as one of the apostles until he was reinstated by the arisen Christ. See how it happened by reading from the Gospel of John, chapter 18 to the end.

Smiley

Why did you replied to answers made for other people BADecker?

You have a discipline problem and is especially seen in this statement when you refuse authority:
However, that is the way the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Rome often act... like Satan, basing salvation on good works or lack of bad ones, rather than basing salvation of the work of Jesus on the cross.

We are fighting against atheism, don't confuse your opponents.


Thank You.
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 10:21:10 AM
Many Christians believe that Jesus is their savior and justify this by faith, not realizing that Jesus never once suggested that he was my savior; such believers should make better use of their reasoning faculties. I value good actions more than faith. Man is a creature of reason, so it is good to use reason when debating facts; it is too bad that so few are aware of the evidence of the afterlife or else we would have far more reasoned discussion about these topics; I feel that this evidence can be used to prove the existence of a supreme being, and help show the way to atheists. Some atheists have so much "faith" in their own worldview that they prejudicially dismiss all evidence of life-after-death and thus behave irrationally. Faith seems to be an irrational and dogmatic state of mind, so I will instead advise the seeker to read it ALL and then decide in wisdom of knowledge.

See: http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html

You cannot defeat atheism with Reason. You need to defeat atheism with Faith: Faith is religion's tool atheism is Reason tool.

You cannot play with the weapons of your opponent unless you'll want to die.
I have faith that God will give me enough of the wisdom of Solomon (see Proverbs and Ecclesiastes) that I will be able to defeat atheism by reason, through faith.


I was once an atheist, so if I had been deserving of death then, and was killed, then I would never have been redeemed.

You were killed because you didn't follow some rules. First rule is knowledge leads to death (as the Genesis episode states clearly). You probably faced knowledge and then didn't cared about the consequences. That is what most people do.
But you have been given (forced into) temporary life here on earth, through the Son of God, Jesus the Christ, so that you can come to faith in Him, so that you gain eternal life rather than eternal death. It is a gift of God. It is not good works or lack of bad works that does it.



Also, if you say "atheists should die", then there must be someone to do the killing.

You are changing the verb of my sentence: this is not agreeing.

If you don't agree state that clearly, although I do appreciate the partial agreement: a partial agreement is better than nothing.

This is not God's will because God does not destroy. When you say "this is the will of the Father, this is the will of God, this is a theological conclusion", you have to realize that it is coming from within you, for that is where God resides.

Are you high? After the Genesis episode the Bible is all G-d destroying and rebuilding.

It is since the Original Sin that men are pushing G-d to the limits and G-d is destroying everything he built for the men and rebuilding again (Babel's tower episode as first).




Wow Shocked, the pope has self-appointed himself authority over God who gets forgiven or not.


What are you talking about: the Pope is the vicary of Christ on earth?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primacy_of_Simon_Peter

This is really basic catechism: you'll learn that in 1st primary school from the Country were I came from.

At the resurrection of Jesus, Who were the first people to see Him after He was made alive again. Weren't they the women? The women were first to see Him after His resurrection.

Why were the women the first to see Him then? After all, the women do not hold a prominent place over the men in the New Testament, and very seldomly in the Old. Wasn't it because they were there, at the tomb, after He arose? But the men weren't.

Similarly, the only reason Peter was held up above the rest of the apostles was he was there. In life before he met Jesus, he was a butt of a forward person. He was among men what a "woman liber" is among women. He was pushy and boastful to some extent. And God simply used it, BECAUSE HE WAS THERE.

----------

Notice the fickleness of Peter in the following Bible verses. The Roman Catholic Church probably DOES follow the pattern of Peter. If you look at all the Papal Bulls, you can see the fickleness of the Church over the ages. But God never changes. So why follow the fickleness of Peter? Matthew 16:16-23:
Quote
Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.

From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.

Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”

Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”

When Jesus said "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it," He wasn't enlisting or recruiting or installing Peter as His vicar here on earth. Rather, He was making the distinction between Peter and the church.

As long as anyone holds to the expression of faith that Peter expressed, that person is part of the church. It has nothing to do with promoting Peter as vicar, or setting up a head of the Church on earth. We can see below that, that Peter was even called Satan by Jesus. However, that is the way the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Rome often act... like Satan, basing salvation on good works or lack of bad ones, rather than basing salvation of the work of Jesus on the cross.

Peter denied Jesus before Pilate, when Jesus was being judged, just before He was crucified. Sure, it was a moment of weakness. But by his denial he was not included as one of the apostles until he was reinstated by the arisen Christ. See how it happened by reading from the Gospel of John, chapter 18 to the end.

Smiley
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September 14, 2015, 05:31:27 AM
There is a sad thing that atheists have made a new religion (not believing any religion) so again its a believe for them ...but generally open minded atheists dont hate anything out of believes ..
i am an atheist and i dont hate any religion.
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 05:11:57 AM
Many Christians believe that Jesus is their savior and justify this by faith, not realizing that Jesus never once suggested that he was my savior; such believers should make better use of their reasoning faculties. I value good actions more than faith. Man is a creature of reason, so it is good to use reason when debating facts; it is too bad that so few are aware of the evidence of the afterlife or else we would have far more reasoned discussion about these topics; I feel that this evidence can be used to prove the existence of a supreme being, and help show the way to atheists. Some atheists have so much "faith" in their own worldview that they prejudicially dismiss all evidence of life-after-death and thus behave irrationally. Faith seems to be an irrational and dogmatic state of mind, so I will instead advise the seeker to read it ALL and then decide in wisdom of knowledge.

See: http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html

You cannot defeat atheism with Reason. You need to defeat atheism with Faith: Faith is religion's tool atheism is Reason tool.

You cannot play with the weapons of your opponent unless you'll want to die.

I was once an atheist, so if I had been deserving of death then, and was killed, then I would never have been redeemed.

You were killed because you didn't follow some rules. First rule is knowledge leads to death (as the Genesis episode states clearly). You probably faced knowledge and then didn't cared about the consequences. That is what most people do.

Also, if you say "atheists should die", then there must be someone to do the killing.

You are changing the verb of my sentence: this is not agreeing.

If you don't agree state that clearly, although I do appreciate the partial agreement: a partial agreement is better than nothing.

This is not God's will because God does not destroy. When you say "this is the will of the Father, this is the will of God, this is a theological conclusion", you have to realize that it is coming from within you, for that is where God resides.

Are you high? After the Genesis episode the Bible is all G-d destroying and rebuilding.

It is since the Original Sin that men are pushing G-d to the limits and G-d is destroying everything he built for the men and rebuilding again (Babel's tower episode as first).




Wow Shocked, the pope has self-appointed himself authority over God who gets forgiven or not.


What are you talking about: the Pope is the vicary of Christ on earth?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primacy_of_Simon_Peter

This is really basic catechism: you'll learn that in 1st primary school from the Country were I came from.
legendary
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September 14, 2015, 04:44:22 AM
And what do you think happens if you don't confess your sins to a priest before you die?
You go to hell.
Why confess to a priest? Instead of confessing indirectly to God via some self-appointed third party, why not just confess to God directly?
You cannot forgive yourself. You need a priest to forgive your sins or speak to your father directly. Don't overestimate yourself.
Then why does the bible say you can ask for forgiveness for your sins? Oh, and the priest can't forgive you, only the Lord can.
Because you can.

You can ask for forgiveness but you cannot forgive yourself.
Only the Lord can forgive you, not the priest. If you believe the priest has to power to forgive you, you are worshiping a man and not the Christian Lord.
The Christian lord is the pope.

A priest can forgive you as he receive mandate from the pope to confess you.

Wow Shocked, the pope has self-appointed himself authority over God who gets forgiven or not.
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September 14, 2015, 03:52:11 AM
That is because when they pass the man that they were fighting they find themselfs again lost cause they pass the men with reason not with Faith.
Many Christians believe that Jesus is their savior and justify this by faith, not realizing that Jesus never once suggested that he was my savior; such believers should make better use of their reasoning faculties. I value good actions more than faith. Man is a creature of reason, so it is good to use reason when debating facts; it is too bad that so few are aware of the evidence of the afterlife or else we would have far more reasoned discussion about these topics; I feel that this evidence can be used to prove the existence of a supreme being, and help show the way to atheists. Some atheists have so much "faith" in their own worldview that they prejudicially dismiss all evidence of life-after-death and thus behave irrationally. Faith seems to be an irrational and dogmatic state of mind, so I will instead advise the seeker to read it ALL and then decide in wisdom of knowledge.

See: http://www.near-death.com/evidence.html

Do you agree why my conclusion that atheists needs to die?

Again: this is a theological conclusion this is not my opinion.

This is needed as people do not harm others based on my words.

I was once an atheist, so if I had been deserving of death then, and was killed, then I would never have been redeemed.
Also, if you say "atheists should die", then there must be someone to do the killing. This is not God's will because God does not destroy. When you say "this is the will of the Father, this is the will of God, this is a theological conclusion", you have to realize that it is coming from within you, for that is where God resides.
legendary
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September 13, 2015, 08:49:30 PM
Atheists attack others instead of facing their own failures.

And most of the times they reply to a question with a new question.

That is very unpolite.

This is not so for atheists who have grown spiritually, so not all atheists hate religion.

That is because when they pass the man that they were fighting they find themselfs again lost cause they pass the men with reason not with Faith.

Do you agree why my conclusion that atheists needs to die?

Again: this is a theological conclusion this is not my opinion.

This is needed as people do not harm others based on my words.


Thank You.
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September 13, 2015, 08:47:30 PM
Atheists attack others instead of facing their own failures. This is not so for atheists who have grown spiritually, so not all atheists hate religion.
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September 13, 2015, 08:42:49 PM
It is quoted; please check.

A most predominant characteristic of the behavior of the evil person is the constant scapegoating... others instead of facing their own failures.

I've already answered the question "Why do atheists hate religion?"

Quoting myslef:

I'm not saying that is the Bible that says it. => "atheists needs to die" <= I'm not saying that is the Bible that says it.

The explanation for the phrase "atheists needs to die" is found in the sin of idolatry (1st and 2nd commandements) and the punishment is death (Golden Calf episode)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_calf

And the answer "atheists needs to die" is also the answer to the question "Why atheists hate Religion?".
(if somebody tell you that you needs to die because you are atheist I don't think you're going to love him/her, although I may be wrong in some special cases).

I think this thread can be closed now.

Could you answer the question: why do atheists hate Religion in your opinion?


Thank You.
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September 13, 2015, 08:37:28 PM
It is quoted; please check.

A most predominant characteristic of the behavior of the evil person is the constant scapegoating... others instead of facing their own failures.
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September 13, 2015, 08:36:01 PM

Are Catholics Christian?

The Roman Catholic "Church" is Not Christian

Video: Satanic Pope Francis Says Having A Personal Relationship With Jesus Is Dangerous !!!

Video: WARNING !!! Pope Calls Jesus and the Bible a LIE !!! False Prophet EXPOSED !!!

Sorry, I can't find the other video right now. But this is a good starting point.

Edit: Found a link from Vigilant Christian: Detailed Documentary Exposing Catholic Church (8 hrs)

Also just a side note, the Catholic church teaches you can give money and save yourself from purgatory.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

This doesn't mean some people who believe they're Catholics and love Jesus, won't be saved (I was a Catholic, remember). It just means that the institution of Catholicism does not teach Christianity.

This is to give more fuel to the always discussing americanism.

You need to question everything even the Pope.

Again, we are going OFF TOPIC: we are not discussing anymore atheism, we are discussing Religion.

How this has something to do with the subject "Why do atheists hate Religion?".


Thank You.




That's funny. You asked me a question, and I answered and you tell me I'm off topic? Why even bother asking me the question?

I know you answered.

My post was for 1aguar.


Thank You.
hero member
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September 13, 2015, 08:31:48 PM
I believe the pope and the queen are people. I don't believe they have any ability to forgive sins or should be worshiped in the slightest.

You believe priests have to forgive people, and 1aguar believes you have to forgive yourself.

Only the Lord can forgive you. You both are placing the forgiveness act through humans (a priest or yourself). Only by grace do we get saved, not the forgiveness from some human.


The answer to the third question I've already understood.

Please answer the first two.

Thank You.

You will die like a man.

You cannot use a single word, you need to quote the entire context.

I don't think you have understood me. You should consider that the Kingdom of God is within you, then you can understand that forgiveness comes from within, since that is where God resides; God IS ALL-FORGIVING MERCY, and you will not shift the responsibility to someone else.

The priest/pope/prophet is not YOUR savior. YOU are your Savior. And the good news is YOU will EARN your way into God's Grace by standing responsible for self and obeying THE LAWS OF GOD/CREATION.

You can ask for forgiveness but you cannot forgive yourself.

So, I think you are mistaken; please try to understand me first, so that we can agree on whether or not what you said here is true.

How this has something to do with the subject "Why do atheists hate Religion?"

I think your posts are OT (Off Topic).


Thank You.

That's funny. You asked me a question, and I answered and you tell me I'm off topic? Why even bother asking me the question?
legendary
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September 13, 2015, 08:14:47 PM
A most predominant characteristic of the behavior of the evil person is the constant scapegoating... others instead of facing their own failures.

How this has something to do with the subject "Why do atheists hate Religion?"?

Could you at least answer to the topic before thinking you are the Pope?!?

Please read more carefully next time.

"No one can properly understand any part of a thing till he has read through the whole again and again".
--Latin Maxim of Law

You cannot keep the topic of the thread and you try to teach others about Faith.

I repeat: Why do atheists hate Religion in your opinion?


Thank You.
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