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legendary
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September 08, 2015, 06:24:48 PM

Eve goofed by talking to the serpent. Adam goofed by not correcting Eve's goof before it became a sin.

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Eve didn't talk to the serpent. The serpent talked to Eve.

Adam didn't need to correct Eve. Adam needed to find something else to do.

If it had not been a husband/wife situation, Adam may not have been the one in authority over Eve.

Genesis 3:2,3:
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The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”

So, even though Eve didn't sin by disobeying a directive from God in her speech with the serpent, she may have lied. Perhaps we don't have the whole conversation that God had with Adam and Eve. Perhaps God did indeed tell them to not touch the fruit. But we don't have record of it.

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How did Eve know that disobeying God would be wrong before eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, only after which she would have known it was wrong?

God had told Adam and Eve before they ate the fruit, that the day in which they ate it they would surely die. We have no record of God saying at that point that it was wrong to select death. But here is how I look at it.

It is rather easy to destroy life. People do it all the time nowadays. But it is almost impossible to make life. Perhaps we are close to it in some ways.

Since God made the complexity that was Adam and Eve, and then breathed His spirit into them, the destruction of such complexity is wrong.

However, my thinking aside, there are others, in the Bible, who call it a sin in one way or another.

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But Eve wouldn't have known that the destruction of such complexity is wrong.  God didn't grant her this knowledge beforehand; He simply warned her not to eat it.  She wouldn't have known a distinction between whether it was better to listen to the Serpent or to God.  She could only know this after eating the fruit.
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 06:22:17 PM
question  "Why atheist hate Religion?"  who says all of them do  i would say it the other way around

I tend to agree. Many atheists enjoy their religion of atheism, silly as it is.   Smiley
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 06:21:48 PM

Atheist do not deserve to live: why are you losing time and space to do that statement?

If you are atheist, then apologies my question.

WHAT?!
How "lovely" of yours! And then we are the ones who doesn't know love!
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 06:21:15 PM
Why are religious people so afraid of Atheists?   Huh

Because atheism is a sin and atheist sinners (2nd commandement).

Atheism is replacing G-d with an idol and idolatry is a capital punishment for 2nd commandement.
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 06:20:28 PM
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So, even though Eve didn't sin by disobeying a directive from God in her speech with the serpent, she may have lied. Perhaps we don't have the whole conversation that God had with Adam and Eve. Perhaps God did indeed tell them to not touch the fruit. But we don't have record of it.


Why you want to know, didn't I already told you that knowledge leads to death?

Thank You.

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How did Eve know that disobeying God would be wrong before eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, only after which she would have known it was wrong?

"Wow"... so she didn't want to disobey: she just wanted to know death.

That was illuminating.

/OT

The knowledge of salvation through Jesus work on the cross and His resurrection leads to life.

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Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
September 08, 2015, 06:19:23 PM
Why are religious people so afraid of Atheists?   Huh
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 06:16:03 PM
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...omissis...
there is no debating that.  
...omissis...

Than why are you debating?

/OT

If you make a generalization that Atheists cannot love and not thinking you are offending people, then you really shouldn't be offended either.

Atheist do not deserve to live: why are you losing time and space to do that statement?

If you are atheist, then apologies my question.
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 06:14:49 PM

Eve goofed by talking to the serpent. Adam goofed by not correcting Eve's goof before it became a sin.

Smiley

Eve didn't talk to the serpent. The serpent talked to Eve.

Adam didn't need to correct Eve. Adam needed to find something else to do.

If it had not been a husband/wife situation, Adam may not have been the one in authority over Eve.

Genesis 3:2,3:
Quote
The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”

So, even though Eve didn't sin by disobeying a directive from God in her speech with the serpent, she may have lied. Perhaps we don't have the whole conversation that God had with Adam and Eve. Perhaps God did indeed tell them to not touch the fruit. But we don't have record of it.

Smiley

How did Eve know that disobeying God would be wrong before eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, only after which she would have known it was wrong?

God had told Adam and Eve before they ate the fruit, that the day in which they ate it they would surely die. We have no record of God saying at that point that it was wrong to select death. But here is how I look at it.

It is rather easy to destroy life. People do it all the time nowadays. But it is almost impossible to make life. Perhaps we are close to it in some ways.

Since God made the complexity that was Adam and Eve, and then breathed His spirit into them, the destruction of such complexity is wrong.

However, my thinking aside, there are others, in the Bible, who call it a sin in one way or another.

Smiley
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 06:14:11 PM
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So, even though Eve didn't sin by disobeying a directive from God in her speech with the serpent, she may have lied. Perhaps we don't have the whole conversation that God had with Adam and Eve. Perhaps God did indeed tell them to not touch the fruit. But we don't have record of it.


Why you want to know, didn't I already told you that knowledge leads to death?

Thank You.

===================================================================================================================


How did Eve know that disobeying God would be wrong before eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, only after which she would have known it was wrong?

"Wow"... so she didn't want to disobey: she just wanted to know death.

That was illuminating.

/OT

This wouldn't be my interpretation.  Regardless, it was just a question for BADecker to ponder.  How/why does someone want something if they lack any knowledge of whether it's good or bad?
sr. member
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September 08, 2015, 06:11:38 PM
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It's not that you don't know something.  But a statement as ignorant as "Atheists cannot love" can't be resolved through words.  That is a very bold statement that and you must live in a very small world to think it to be true.  Love is a human emotion, that is not conditional on any religious belief.

And I do think traveling is one of the best ways to rid ourselves of ignorance.  The internet is a great tool as well of course, but it is no replacement for traveling.

I'm starting to not like people that call me ignorant... please stick to the subject and don't lose time and space in offending others people.

Thank You.

/OT

I am not concerned about whether or not you like me.  You made an ignorant statement, there is no debating that.  But I will apologize for offending you personally if you feel that I have done so - that is not the intent.

If you make a generalization that Atheists cannot love and not thinking you are offending people, then you really shouldn't be offended either.
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 06:08:30 PM
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so you know nothing Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  YOU SAID IT NOT ME  Cheesy Cheesy THIS IS HOW STUPID YOU REALLY ARE .... Grin Grin Grin NOW THAT WAS FUNNY Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

AN  IQ OF A PEANUT Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Are you high?

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It's not that you don't know something.  But a statement as ignorant as "Atheists cannot love" can't be resolved through words.  That is a very bold statement that and you must live in a very small world to think it to be true.  Love is a human emotion, that is not conditional on any religious belief.

And I do think traveling is one of the best ways to rid ourselves of ignorance.  The internet is a great tool as well of course, but it is no replacement for traveling.

I'm starting to not like people that call me ignorant... please stick to the subject and don't lose time and space in offending other people.

Thank You.

/OT
sr. member
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September 08, 2015, 06:04:44 PM

If you really think that, it's probably time to get on a plane and do some traveling.  No need to reference an old book - go see the world for yourself.

So: because you don't know something you'll travel the all World?

It is 2015: Internet do exists.


It's not that you don't know something.  But a statement as ignorant as "Atheists cannot love" can't be resolved through words.  That is a very bold statement that and you must live in a very small world to think it to be true.  Love is a human emotion, that is not conditional on any religious belief.

And I do think traveling is one of the best ways to rid ourselves of ignorance.  The internet is a great tool as well of course, but it is no replacement for traveling.
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 06:03:34 PM
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So, even though Eve didn't sin by disobeying a directive from God in her speech with the serpent, she may have lied. Perhaps we don't have the whole conversation that God had with Adam and Eve. Perhaps God did indeed tell them to not touch the fruit. But we don't have record of it.


Why you want to know, didn't I already told you that knowledge leads to death?

Thank You.

===================================================================================================================


How did Eve know that disobeying God would be wrong before eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, only after which she would have known it was wrong?

"Wow"... so she didn't want to disobey: she just wanted to know death.

That was illuminating.

/OT
so you know nothing Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  YOU SAID IT NOT ME  Cheesy Cheesy THIS IS HOW STUPID YOU REALLY ARE .... Grin Grin Grin NOW THAT WAS FUNNY Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

AN  IQ OF A PEANUT Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
full member
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cancer sucks
September 08, 2015, 05:57:28 PM
 question  "Why atheist hate Religion?"  who says all of them do  i would say it the other way around
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 05:46:33 PM
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So, even though Eve didn't sin by disobeying a directive from God in her speech with the serpent, she may have lied. Perhaps we don't have the whole conversation that God had with Adam and Eve. Perhaps God did indeed tell them to not touch the fruit. But we don't have record of it.


Why you want to know, didn't I already told you that knowledge leads to death?

Thank You.

===================================================================================================================


How did Eve know that disobeying God would be wrong before eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, only after which she would have known it was wrong?

"Wow"... so she didn't want to disobey: she just wanted to know death.

That was illuminating.

/OT
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 05:39:46 PM

Eve goofed by talking to the serpent. Adam goofed by not correcting Eve's goof before it became a sin.

Smiley

Eve didn't talk to the serpent. The serpent talked to Eve.

Adam didn't need to correct Eve. Adam needed to find something else to do.

If it had not been a husband/wife situation, Adam may not have been the one in authority over Eve.

Genesis 3:2,3:
Quote
The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”

So, even though Eve didn't sin by disobeying a directive from God in her speech with the serpent, she may have lied. Perhaps we don't have the whole conversation that God had with Adam and Eve. Perhaps God did indeed tell them to not touch the fruit. But we don't have record of it.

Smiley

How did Eve know that disobeying God would be wrong before eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, only after which she would have known it was wrong?
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 05:14:18 PM

Eve goofed by talking to the serpent. Adam goofed by not correcting Eve's goof before it became a sin.

Smiley

Eve didn't talk to the serpent. The serpent talked to Eve.

Adam didn't need to correct Eve. Adam needed to find something else to do.

If it had not been a husband/wife situation, Adam may not have been the one in authority over Eve.

Genesis 3:2,3:
Quote
The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’ ”

So, even though Eve didn't sin by disobeying a directive from God in her speech with the serpent, she may have lied. Perhaps we don't have the whole conversation that God had with Adam and Eve. Perhaps God did indeed tell them to not touch the fruit. But we don't have record of it.

Smiley
legendary
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Merit: 1003
September 08, 2015, 05:05:27 PM

Eve goofed by talking to the serpent. Adam goofed by not correcting Eve's goof before it became a sin.

Smiley

Eve didn't talk to the serpent. The serpent talked to Eve.

Adam didn't need to correct Eve. Adam needed to find something else to do.
legendary
Activity: 3906
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September 08, 2015, 05:03:01 PM
The Bible doesn't talk about the fruit being given to Adam or Eve. It talks about Eve taking it, presumably from the tree.
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God told Adam and Eve that the day they would eat the forbidden fruit, they would surely die. And they did die that day, in spiritual perfection. We, their descendants, receive the same because we are corrupted as they became, both in body and in spirit.

The point is, they committed suicide. God didn't kill them. But God is offering us all the way out of death, into eternal life in joy. Too bad for you that you don't want it.

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I have an interesting theory I heard recently. It's that there may have been some sort of sexual immorality on Eve's part, not eating fruit, that was the sin. Which makes more sense since her punishment was sexual in nature (childbirth pains), instead of something to do with eating/hunger/knowledge.

Eve goofed by talking to the serpent. Adam goofed by not correcting Eve's goof before it became a sin.

Smiley
legendary
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September 08, 2015, 05:01:12 PM
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...omissis...



Guys you are all fantasticating.

Keep to the subject "Why atheist hate Religion?"

I'm not interested in the subject because atheist do not deserve to live so I don't lose time asking this kind of questions.

But if you want to answer a question you need to stick to the subject, keeping to fantasticate about the Bible and Religion is not going to give you an answer.


Thank You.
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