Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 368. (Read 901520 times)

YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE BIBLE
YOU MAKE YOUR OWN LAW TO THE BIBLE...DUMB ASS..so if there is a hell your going there
for not doing gods teachings
because you know nothing about the bible

very good stories but that is all they are nothing else A BOOK ..and no wisdom comes from the bible just common sense thou should not kill...NO SHIT

Not at all. I am simply using science as an example. Whatever anyone does in life, he does because he believes that it is the correct way to live. It is his religion, be it science or anything else.


Exactly what I was hoping you would understand that I was saying.


However, that is not what the dictionary definition is.

You could look at it from an animal's point of view. A more intelligent animal holds the general understanding that mankind is greater than it is. Mankind is a deity in the eyes of animals, even though they don't express it that way. Atheists try to become less than the animals by attempting to say that there is no supreme being. Since animals can't think like that, it becomes self-evident that mankind (if not Something even greater) is the supreme being.


Exactly the thing that I am saying regarding atheism and atheists.

However, many scientists hold to certain scientific fact in such a way that everything they do is based on such fact. It is part of their doctrine to do things like this. Some fact is doctrine to those who use it regularly.


The fact that some doctrine is based on falsehood (like atheism), doesn't mean that all doctrine is based on falsehood.



If atheists could think rationally, they would look up the definition of "atheism," apply it to themselves, and see that atheism is a complete lie. As it is, they would rather believe the lie, making atheism a religion just like many of the other religions around the world that hang onto falsehood.

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i think,because they (atheis) dont care to religious person,but religious person care to them. they hate that condition.
they wanna be alone,wanna be free.. that what i thought 

Nobody can force you to worship one way or another. The closest they can come is to brainwash you. But if they don't continually reinforce their brainwashing, you will revert to your own religious beliefs over time.

When someone attempts to force you to worship such a way, he isn't really. You might go through the acts of specified worship, but you aren't really worshiping unless you are.

It's like a hostage situation. The people who take you hostage may give you a choice. They may tell you to remain as a hostage or die. What you do is up to you.

You're mistaken Atheism by some sort of "belief in science".
And there's no such thing as "Big Bang law", it's a theory.

Atheism is the lack of belief in deities, just that, nothing else, doesn't imply a shred of belief on anything, scientific or otherwise, and has absolutely no doctrine.
Doctrines are irrational actions based upon political views or religion, regardless if the conditions when those actions can be considered good or not.
For an instance, the Communist doctrine aims a lot at a sort of factory worker that doesn't exist anymore, yet because they take Marx and Lenin as doctrine they don't change.
Likewise, in the Middle Eastern religions there's a doctrine against eating pork, this makes perfect sense as hogs takes too much a water, a scarce good at the region. The same idea at mid-Europe would be senseless.

Atheists are more akin to think rationally and try to analyze the decision/consequences factor to determine the course of action.

As what I have learned Atheist doesn't hate religion. They just don't like the idea of having a so-called-religion where they are force to worship someone they don't believe.

I was born as a Catholic and before I actually thought the same way atheist believe.

Come now. Just because I haven't sat down and explained clearly why the 3 laws prove God exists, doesn't mean that they don't prove such. I have explained in other posts clearly enough that one can explain it to himself if he wants. I would rather you use your ability to think than lay it out completely for you.

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The first great doctrine of atheism is that God (supreme being) does not exist. The second is that atheism is not a religion. Following that are many of the scientific theories that are held by atheists as laws of nature. Because these are held as truths, they are doctrines to the holder.

For example. There is a sect of atheism that holds that the Big Bang is law, when in reality it is theory (not fact), and probably could never be proven at all even if it HAD HAPPENED.

The reason atheists need something like the Big Bang is (even though they are mostly ignorant of it because they hide it from themselves), atheists, like everyone else, don't know for a fact anything about their future. Because of this, they build up all kinds of limited and temporary fantasies in their mind about what they think will happen. Their fantasies are their doctrines, just as formally religious people have doctrines, while all the while each individual's doctrine is slightly (or greatly) different from the individual doctrine of anyone else.

It all has to do with the weakness that we all have when trying to predict the future. We think that we would have security if we had control. The atheists try to gain control by making themselves the authority (supreme being) and then try to go about eliminating the supreme being (themselves) in their minds by upholding atheism.

Atheism is the most pathetic religion around. It doesn't even deserve to be a religion. But, by its attributes, definitely is one.

You've "factual evidence" of nothing and atheism has no doctrines.

The important point that atheism revolves around, is the idea that God exists. Now that I have shown that God factually exists with the 3 scientific laws, cause and effect, universal entropy, universal complexity, all that is left for atheism is to argue about its own doctrine.

Cleverly ridiculous.

Most atheists are so caught up in the thing that they believe, that they don't even realize that it is a religion. And if somebody tells the about it, they would rather ignore it than Google it. But if they Google it and find out it is true, they would rather lie about it, and try to hide the fact rather than embrace the truth.

Sorry to disagree with that! That sort of sentence is what religious people use to play victim!
The problem relies on doctrines. You see, isn't the "I believe in this" the problem, it's the "because I believe in this then YOU must do that (or else)".
Nobody cares about belief itself.

unfortunately, i dont hate any of them they have what they believe is right. but of course atheists hate religion, coz they dont believe it

Watching a documentary about yet another religion of crackpots;

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-32412212

Now tell me, do we have reasons to love religion?
But there's a catch, a good Atheist will unlike or hate religion(s), not people. They're separate things, the same people without religion can be good people, the issue is often the religion itself and its doctrines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_science#Observation_inseparable_from_theory

I didn't replied to your post because your nick: "the joint"

I was told all my life that people do not believe me because I was high: now it's your turn.


Thank You and best regards.

Empiricism, the epistemological foundation for science, is the theory that knowledge is only derived from empirical/physical phenomena.  However, empiricism carries non-empirical assumptions, e.g. observation has no causal effect on physical reality.

The problem with an empirical methodology wielding non-empirical assumptions is that this means the assumptions are derived elsewhere.  In this case, that "elsewhere" is philosophical.  But, if we assume this non-empirical assumption to be valid, then we concede that knowledge must also derive from outside empiricism, i.e. outside science.

Yes, science works, and yes it produces technology that improves convenience and quality of life.  That, however, does not mean it is the best source of knowledge in all cases, and we know this especially because science doesn't work without its philosophical and mathematical underpinnings.

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Yes and I did agree with you with the definition of atheism being the one in the Oxford dictionary:
Ref: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/atheism

What are you rattling about?


Thank You and best regards.

I gave you the simple definition of atheism and atheist. All the rest of the definitions suggest the same meaning, although many of them do it with an abundance of words.

Since I also showed you that, even if there happened to be no God, the atheist himself is the supreme being he is trying to deny, all you jokers are doing is batting at the air... air that you happen to attach words to, because words are easy.

Since I also showed you that God exists through 3 common scientific laws, atheism is a complete nullity. All that atheists want to do is make noise to prove they are something. But you jokers don't have to do this. God knows you are there, and He accepts you. Now accept Him.

Too bad for you atheist jokers. There isn't anything there in you. And there won't be until you start to accept the fact that God exists.

WELL HE MUST BE CLEVER THEN LIKE ME
OR EF AND BLIND LIKE ME
SORRY BUT SOME COMMENTS ARE SO STUPID I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY WOULD POST SUCH SHIT
AND IT GETS MY BACK UP..

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 PLUS DON.T SAY GOD SAID BECAUSE HE NEVER ITS ALL IN YOUR MIND NUTTERS