Topic: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? - page 427. (Read 901341 times)

Don't feel too bad about it.  I think the reason people keep engaging BADecker is because they actually care to try to prevent someone continuing on such a profoundly deluded path.  This differs drastically from BADecker who doesn't seem to care one way or another whether someone believes in the truth or if he/she might go to hell.  He's just gleeful from thinking he's right, and that's about it.

I really wonder though, how many Christians and theists would need to tell BADecker he's delusional in order for him to start wondering whether he's wrong?

I'm trying, really I am. It's like a train crash, you don't want to look, but you just can't seem to turn your head away.
Remember "The Dank Show"?
Now it's "The BADecker Show".

The better question is why aren't you ignoring him?

Well this helps us focus more on the actual discussion. He often hijacks threads with religious nonsense. What he's saying is that Atheism is a religion; so atheists hate themselves according to the thread title.
This makes a lot of sense to me. 

I'm so glad you sourced us a completely unbiased website such as creation.com.

LOL

Is atheism a religion? From http://creation.com/atheism-a-religion:
Google "Is atheism a religoin?" to see the pros and cons.



EDIT: I still think that atheists hate religion because atheism is proving to be a religion, and they know it. Possibly the greatest way atheism is proving to be a religion lies in the fact that most of the universe is proving to be evidence in favor of the existence of God.

Who knows why atheists don't like the idea there being a God? Probably it is the "me first" idea. If there is a God, mankind can't be first, and this hurts the atheistic pride.

Sounds like a muslim.. LOL

Dude.. We dont pray. we dont care about your  religion aslong as it doesnt hurt anyone.
You can plray all you want, we dont.

I believe in what is prooved, and I dont really care about it.
I got better things to do with my life than sit around and pray and thank someone who isnt there.

Sage advice. BADecker's dishonesty when it comes to his grossly fallacious theist argument is even worse than Black Jaguar, a loon who believes himself to be part of some inter-dimensional pan-galactic space federation. As in, actually believes it to be true. Not kidding.

When your theism prompts you to be so blatantly dishonest to the degree you are a worse human being than a guy who actually is living in a certifiably delusional state, you're not exactly showing your faith to be the pious and holy belief system you claim it to be.

One can't have a discussion with someone as deluded as that. They will protect their point in any possible (wrong) way. Some people aren't that smart, thus they protect something like that even though they are wrong.
Admitting to being wrong is painful for some.

You should just put him on your ignore list.

It is becoming more and more apparent that atheism is becoming your religion, like all of the other adamant atheists.

You are right...My blood pressure's probably risen from this. Gosh, it's to no further use arguing with that guy.

celestio, do you believe BD has the mental capacity to understand what you are saying and respond intelligently?

So why do you continue arguing with him?  Do you argue with 6 year olds?

Are you stupid? Lack of something=nothing, therefore there cannot be "something here" for you to show. So exactly what are you talking about?

I'm an atheist but don't necessarily hate religion. I think a lot of atheists characterize religion by its most ignorant believers--which isn't always unfair, religious adherents like the United States' contemporary Evangelical Christian community do exert influence over policy and other people's lives.

But I think religion is a much more complex, textured thing for many people. While religion is not objectively true, it does change people's lives because it alters the way they encounter other people and the world. And that change is not always negative (thought it certainly can be). It's just another way to develop meaning and craft a life-narrative in an inherently meaningless existence.  

Though the fact that religion is not objectively true can present problems for some people. But then again, are philosophy, progress, politics or myriad other things that imbue people's lives with meaning objectively true?

Disbelief is exactly the thing that I am explaining about here. Disbelief has to do with lack of realization about something. Since I am showing the "something" here, there can be no more disbelief. Rather, there is agenda and obstinance.

Why do you cherrypick definitions, because you left out the 2nd part, "2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings."? In other fields what you're doing would be scamming. Furthermore, the definition of Religion is a set of beliefs. Even if you believe Atheism has 1 belief(That is the disbelief of God(s)), it still cannot in any way, constitute as a Religion, as the definition of Religion is a set of beliefs.

If you can't understand that, then there is no hope for you.

Definition of Atheism: disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Definition of Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Atheism is not a religion, as shown by the definitions of each word.


Definition of religion according to dictionary.reference.com: a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:


Definition of atheism according to dictionary.reference.com: the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2.
disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Do you notice anything? Notice how a religion is made up by a set of beliefs concerning abstract and empirical things. Notice how Atheism is a single belief in the disbelief that there is no God, therefore no matter how you look at it, Atheism is not and cannot be a religion.

So you've just proved me right again, it doesn't matter what dictionary you use. Two dictionaries we've looked at it and they show that Atheism is not a religion. Are you going to continue arguing? If so, I'll be done here as I don't want to waste time posting to trolls and idiots such as yourself.

How does the definition not say belief: "1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God."

There you go again with the character assassinations. Read the definition.

I have already said for the 10millionth time. That in both definitions we looked at, they said Atheism is lack of belief/disbelief, and Religion is a set of beliefs.

How the fuck can Atheism be a religion if it doesn't have set of beliefs? I'm not Atheist, but sir, you're a fucking retard.

Wow! You can't stop me from showing the truth. So now you want the mods to do it? And the funny part is, you aren't even one of those who is directly affected by the atheism question. What exactly is your real agenda?

Can a mod please perm ban BADecker for trolling. It's not funny and it's really annoying. I think it's pretty obvious by now, since he hasn't directly responded to any of the information I've said, yet continues to argue baseless "points". Trolls like that just subtract from this forum.

Actually, just the opposite. I have shown you over and over from the definitions of the words that atheism is a religion. Yet you keep on claiming something against the definitions. Why do you want to hide the truth? Isn't about time that the atheists see for themselves what the truth is? And you want to hide it for some reason. And you aren't (by your own claim) even an atheist!

Now you are trying to say that I make theists look bad by showing the truth? Why are you trying to get me to hide the truth? What is your real agenda?