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April 12, 2015, 06:48:00 AM
Some time back I was walking along a beach in a very popular tourist spot.  To my right was the beach with all the girls sunning topless. Hundreds.  As far as you could see.  To my right was some Muslim guy walking along sort of angry looking.  Behind him trailed four women with just the eye-slits burka things.

I started wondering about stuff.  If he had four did that mean that there were three guys somewhere (where ever he came from) that didn't get any?  That'd make them rather crazy. 

Maybe they'd go for that after-life pussy then.
Well just going by the stats there would be more than three that didn't get any(there are Muslims who have more than 3 women too) and plus the male to female ratio is not at all balanced.

What if one woman was his wife and others were his sisters or cousins or one wife, one mom and one sister? There are many possibilities too. And yes, It is also possible they are all his wives.

To answer your statement: A muslim is permitted to have upto 4 women at a time but even with two wives, it is hard to do justice to them. I read Islamic teachings when you have more than one wife, I must say, it is really hard. I don't even think about having more than 1 wife that time forth.

Male to female ratio is unbalanced not because of muslims "only".
I didn't mean to say that male to female ratio is dis balanced because of muslims.
Now can you also describe the "good" in having 4 wives? Isn't this anti-social and unethical?
Why doesn't your religion care to treat the female followers of the same religion with respect??
How will you feel if your sister marries a man who already has 3 wives and is sex crazy?
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April 12, 2015, 06:07:28 AM
The problem with Islam regarding Muslim extremists is, because of the words that express hate and violence in the Quran and Hadith (or seem to), Islam can be interpreted by sincere extremists to be a religion of violence, or it can be used as an excuse for violence by insincere extremists. Sometimes the two groups are mixed, the insincere Muslims using the sincere ones.

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Yes that is absolutely correct. Imagine I saw a video where this insane long bearded guy is convinced youngsters that yes if anyone is not a muslim it is okay to shoot him dead right there on the street and take everything he owns and take his wife and kids for yourself......

I really saw that and I know for sure some think like that.... no that is very scary because yes how will you distinguish between someone like them and well...... any of other long bearded muslims...
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April 12, 2015, 06:04:24 AM
A muslim is permitted to have upto 4 women at a time

WAIT WAIT WAIT before any misunderstanding happens! He meant 4 in his life as wives not 4 as in a fivesome okay!

JUST SAYING
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April 12, 2015, 04:55:05 AM
Thank you, Spendulus for your inputs! I still think there is something bad on "destroying" "every" copies and I don't think they are "useless" or "unneeded" "documents". Anyway, I don't think there is much we can do about this and it is hard to find the truth. We can believe the widely-known belief now.

Yes, there are millions of muslims out there, therefore the hateful muslim extremists that go around doing that jihad shit are a minority, the problem is, you even know who is on the process of becoming a radical, about to blow himself up in hopes to get some after life pussy. Jesus christ, what a bunch of nutjobs, it never gets any less insane no matter how many times you reduce the whole thing for what it is.
The problem with Islam regarding Muslim extremists is, because of the words that express hate and violence in the Quran and Hadith (or seem to), Islam can be interpreted by sincere extremists to be a religion of violence, or it can be used as an excuse for violence by insincere extremists. Sometimes the two groups are mixed, the insincere Muslims using the sincere ones.

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Do you know what "extremists" mean, don't you?! "Islamic extremists" are often used in a "false way", in a single word "misused", nowadays. As I mentioned a few times, "extremists" bother to spend most of their time to "pray" and do other "must do" things such as Zakat, Fast etc... "Extremists" will know almost every rules and teachings of Islam but muslim terrorists contradicts these rules and teachings. Still they are "extremists"? I don't think so.

Some time back I was walking along a beach in a very popular tourist spot.  To my right was the beach with all the girls sunning topless. Hundreds.  As far as you could see.  To my right was some Muslim guy walking along sort of angry looking.  Behind him trailed four women with just the eye-slits burka things.

I started wondering about stuff.  If he had four did that mean that there were three guys somewhere (where ever he came from) that didn't get any?  That'd make them rather crazy. 

Maybe they'd go for that after-life pussy then.
Well just going by the stats there would be more than three that didn't get any(there are Muslims who have more than 3 women too) and plus the male to female ratio is not at all balanced.

What if one woman was his wife and others were his sisters or cousins or one wife, one mom and one sister? There are many possibilities too. And yes, It is also possible they are all his wives.

To answer your statement: A muslim is permitted to have upto 4 women at a time but even with two wives, it is hard to do justice to them. I read Islamic teachings when you have more than one wife, I must say, it is really hard. I don't even think about having more than 1 wife that time forth.

Male to female ratio is unbalanced not because of muslims "only".
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April 12, 2015, 02:48:38 AM
Yes, there are millions of muslims out there, therefore the hateful muslim extremists that go around doing that jihad shit are a minority, the problem is, you even know who is on the process of becoming a radical, about to blow himself up in hopes to get some after life pussy. Jesus christ, what a bunch of nutjobs, it never gets any less insane no matter how many times you reduce the whole thing for what it is.
Some time back I was walking along a beach in a very popular tourist spot.  To my right was the beach with all the girls sunning topless. Hundreds.  As far as you could see.  To my right was some Muslim guy walking along sort of angry looking.  Behind him trailed four women with just the eye-slits burka things.

I started wondering about stuff.  If he had four did that mean that there were three guys somewhere (where ever he came from) that didn't get any?  That'd make them rather crazy.  

Maybe they'd go for that after-life pussy then.
Well just going by the stats there would be more than three that didn't get any(there are Muslims who have more than 3 women too) and plus the male to female ratio is not at all balanced.
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April 11, 2015, 09:55:15 PM
Yes, there are millions of muslims out there, therefore the hateful muslim extremists that go around doing that jihad shit are a minority, the problem is, you even know who is on the process of becoming a radical, about to blow himself up in hopes to get some after life pussy. Jesus christ, what a bunch of nutjobs, it never gets any less insane no matter how many times you reduce the whole thing for what it is.
Some time back I was walking along a beach in a very popular tourist spot.  To my right was the beach with all the girls sunning topless. Hundreds.  As far as you could see.  To my right was some Muslim guy walking along sort of angry looking.  Behind him trailed four women with just the eye-slits burka things.

I started wondering about stuff.  If he had four did that mean that there were three guys somewhere (where ever he came from) that didn't get any?  That'd make them rather crazy.  

Maybe they'd go for that after-life pussy then.
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April 11, 2015, 09:44:32 PM
The problem with Islam regarding Muslim extremists is, because of the words that express hate and violence in the Quran and Hadith (or seem to), Islam can be interpreted by sincere extremists to be a religion of violence, or it can be used as an excuse for violence by insincere extremists. Sometimes the two groups are mixed, the insincere Muslims using the sincere ones.

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April 11, 2015, 03:51:27 PM
Yes, there are millions of muslims out there, therefore the hateful muslim extremists that go around doing that jihad shit are a minority, the problem is, you even know who is on the process of becoming a radical, about to blow himself up in hopes to get some after life pussy. Jesus christ, what a bunch of nutjobs, it never gets any less insane no matter how many times you reduce the whole thing for what it is.
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April 11, 2015, 01:19:14 PM
Thanks for the information. However, why did they destroy copies if they didn't do anything wrong...?
To clear space in warehouses or offices for new paper records would be the likely guess.  Someone would have decided what was important and what was not important.  Back then all records were paper, not even microfishe.

Like tax records in the US, people are supposed to keep them for four years, or in some cases seven.  Then they can be thrown away.


No, I am not telling whole USA is bad. Because of the persons who did some bad things, I will never say whole community is bad. I mentioned "US" than some people's name to tell about this.
That's a reasonable point of view.  My family on the mother side is all German, they were all in the US in WWII and fought in the war.  There was never any hate of the German people by the American people - you can go back and look at the newspapers from the 1940s and see that.   It may have been that hate was fostered during wartime against the German soldiers, yes.  Certainly the SS even today have a legacy of "Evil" about them.

Again, it makes zero sense to talk about killing millions of ex prisoners of war after a war has officially ended.  That's one of the craziest things I have ever heard.  You realize you are talking about productive workers, right?

See in the US most people are all mixed up, half Indian half Irish, half Negro half Phillipino, half Irish quarter German quarter Chinese, lol....in the 1940s it was not as pronounced as today but it was still very much so I think.
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April 11, 2015, 12:46:02 PM
You've claimed that the USA starved to death or killed something like 1.7 million German soldiers in some kind of camps.  The absurd claim is yours to prove.  That's half of the German military fatalities.

You have massive inventory of facts on the Internet about WWII, and many students of history.  You make the fantastic claim that somehow, 1.7M soldiers could be killed "in secret."  I don't buy that.  It's not that easy to keep secrets.

Now how exactly would such a thing be done?  It would have to be in places OTHER THAN those my grandfather was at when he was in charge of holding German soldiers after they surrendered.  Somewhere that he had not ever heard about.  You see it would have to even be kept secret from many who were in charge of guarding the German prisoners. 

More importantly, the charges make zero sense.  Why would anyone want to do such a thing?  For what gain?  Large numbers of German prisoners of war were brought to the USA during the war to work in farming and manufacturing.  Because we needed workers - just about all the men were overseas.  After the war, with the exception of (1) the rocket engineers and scientists (2) those held for possible war crimes like the SS - prisoners of war were simply let go.  Who cared about them?  You see they were no longer soldiers.  They went back and started their lives over.

You see, when a war is over, when the conflict is ended, people go back to  living regular lives as best they can.

http://www.world-war-2.info

May I ask you the same thing? What did Nazis' gained by killing Jews? A big "zero". They hated Jews as a race. Just like that, it is possible that Dwight D. Eisenhower hated Germans as a race.

There are no longer any surviving records showing which German POWs and Disarmed Enemy Forces were in U.S. custody prior to roughly September 1945. The early standard operating procedure for handling POWs and Disarmed Enemy Forces was to send a copy of the POW form to the Central Registry of War Criminals and Security Suspects (CROWCASS). However, this practice was apparently stopped as impractical, and all copies of the POW forms, roughly eight million, were destroyed. By way of contrast, the Soviet archives contain dossiers for every German POW they held, averaging around 15 pages for each.

Roll Eyes Huh

The Wikipedia page is still being edited. It was last edited ~2 hours ago.

This maybe helpful:

http://truedemocracyparty.net/2014/01/german-holocaust-german-genocide-9-to-15-million-germans-killed-1945-1953-the-morgenthau-plan-eisenhowers-death-camps-a-forgotten-genocide/

I haven't made a deep look into this though.

No you have not made "a deep look into it."  You've just posted propaganda crap with an "out."

Germans gained a lot when they killed Jews.  Aside from money and property, they stereotyped and demonized an internal enemy.  That's part of the method used by fascism and is defined as part of the method of propaganda.  An internal enemy focuses public attention in a direction other than regime corruption.

There is no "wikipedia page still being edited."  All wikipedia pages are always being edited.  You don't have to go there, and you can't ignore the ridiculous level of this conspiracy by criticizing wikipedia.  There are truly massive amounts of information and databases on WWII on the Internet.

Of course this is understandable if you demonize the USA then I guess the USA becomes an enemy which needs some jihad.  But now you are just being a propagandist, not a seeker of truth.  In that case none of your says are credible, are they?  Nothing you say about Islam should be believed, because of the quickness with which you spread falsehoods?





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April 11, 2015, 11:29:10 AM
Thanks for the information. However, why did they destroy copies if they didn't do anything wrong...?

No, I am not telling whole USA is bad. Because of the persons who did some bad things, I will never say whole community is bad. I mentioned "US" than some people's name to tell about this.

And no Jihad doesn't mean "holy war" and US never became an enemy to me but their attacks mostly are aimed to Muslims which is also mentioned in Wikipedia.

I give refernces when I speak too. There were equal claims in Wikipedia, so I think it may be true but it can also be false.

You said "Jihad" many times even though it doesn't mean "holy war" or "war". Isn't this falsehood? Many people posted "falsehood" about Islam. Don't that be "falsehoods". Almost all human commit mistakes.
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April 11, 2015, 09:39:15 AM
You've claimed that the USA starved to death or killed something like 1.7 million German soldiers in some kind of camps.  The absurd claim is yours to prove.  That's half of the German military fatalities.

You have massive inventory of facts on the Internet about WWII, and many students of history.  You make the fantastic claim that somehow, 1.7M soldiers could be killed "in secret."  I don't buy that.  It's not that easy to keep secrets.

Now how exactly would such a thing be done?  It would have to be in places OTHER THAN those my grandfather was at when he was in charge of holding German soldiers after they surrendered.  Somewhere that he had not ever heard about.  You see it would have to even be kept secret from many who were in charge of guarding the German prisoners. 

More importantly, the charges make zero sense.  Why would anyone want to do such a thing?  For what gain?  Large numbers of German prisoners of war were brought to the USA during the war to work in farming and manufacturing.  Because we needed workers - just about all the men were overseas.  After the war, with the exception of (1) the rocket engineers and scientists (2) those held for possible war crimes like the SS - prisoners of war were simply let go.  Who cared about them?  You see they were no longer soldiers.  They went back and started their lives over.

You see, when a war is over, when the conflict is ended, people go back to  living regular lives as best they can.

http://www.world-war-2.info

May I ask you the same thing? What did Nazis' gained by killing Jews? A big "zero". They hated Jews as a race. Just like that, it is possible that Dwight D. Eisenhower hated Germans as a race.

There are no longer any surviving records showing which German POWs and Disarmed Enemy Forces were in U.S. custody prior to roughly September 1945. The early standard operating procedure for handling POWs and Disarmed Enemy Forces was to send a copy of the POW form to the Central Registry of War Criminals and Security Suspects (CROWCASS). However, this practice was apparently stopped as impractical, and all copies of the POW forms, roughly eight million, were destroyed. By way of contrast, the Soviet archives contain dossiers for every German POW they held, averaging around 15 pages for each.

Roll Eyes Huh

The Wikipedia page is still being edited. It was last edited ~2 hours ago.

This maybe helpful:

http://truedemocracyparty.net/2014/01/german-holocaust-german-genocide-9-to-15-million-germans-killed-1945-1953-the-morgenthau-plan-eisenhowers-death-camps-a-forgotten-genocide/

I haven't made a deep look into this though.

No you have not made "a deep look into it."  You've just posted propaganda crap with an "out."

Germans gained a lot when they killed Jews.  Aside from money and property, they stereotyped and demonized an internal enemy.  That's part of the method used by fascism and is defined as part of the method of propaganda.  An internal enemy focuses public attention in a direction other than regime corruption.

There is no "wikipedia page still being edited."  All wikipedia pages are always being edited.  You don't have to go there, and you can't ignore the ridiculous level of this conspiracy by criticizing wikipedia.  There are truly massive amounts of information and databases on WWII on the Internet.

Of course this is understandable if you demonize the USA then I guess the USA becomes an enemy which needs some jihad.  But now you are just being a propagandist, not a seeker of truth.  In that case none of your says are credible, are they?  Nothing you say about Islam should be believed, because of the quickness with which you spread falsehoods?
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April 11, 2015, 08:03:32 AM
For me such question is strange.
How can religion hate people?
I know that people can hate other people, because of their faith, race, nationality etc. but I don't think that religion itself can hate somebody.
We can say or considered that people can be influence by religion to do or believe something, but this is completely different issue.
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April 11, 2015, 12:46:45 AM
You've claimed that the USA starved to death or killed something like 1.7 million German soldiers in some kind of camps.  The absurd claim is yours to prove.  That's half of the German military fatalities.

You have massive inventory of facts on the Internet about WWII, and many students of history.  You make the fantastic claim that somehow, 1.7M soldiers could be killed "in secret."  I don't buy that.  It's not that easy to keep secrets.

Now how exactly would such a thing be done?  It would have to be in places OTHER THAN those my grandfather was at when he was in charge of holding German soldiers after they surrendered.  Somewhere that he had not ever heard about.  You see it would have to even be kept secret from many who were in charge of guarding the German prisoners. 

More importantly, the charges make zero sense.  Why would anyone want to do such a thing?  For what gain?  Large numbers of German prisoners of war were brought to the USA during the war to work in farming and manufacturing.  Because we needed workers - just about all the men were overseas.  After the war, with the exception of (1) the rocket engineers and scientists (2) those held for possible war crimes like the SS - prisoners of war were simply let go.  Who cared about them?  You see they were no longer soldiers.  They went back and started their lives over.

You see, when a war is over, when the conflict is ended, people go back to  living regular lives as best they can.

http://www.world-war-2.info

May I ask you the same thing? What did Nazis' gained by killing Jews? A big "zero". They hated Jews as a race. Just like that, it is possible that Dwight D. Eisenhower hated Germans as a race.

There are no longer any surviving records showing which German POWs and Disarmed Enemy Forces were in U.S. custody prior to roughly September 1945. The early standard operating procedure for handling POWs and Disarmed Enemy Forces was to send a copy of the POW form to the Central Registry of War Criminals and Security Suspects (CROWCASS). However, this practice was apparently stopped as impractical, and all copies of the POW forms, roughly eight million, were destroyed. By way of contrast, the Soviet archives contain dossiers for every German POW they held, averaging around 15 pages for each.

Roll Eyes Huh

The Wikipedia page is still being edited. It was last edited ~2 hours ago.

This maybe helpful:

http://truedemocracyparty.net/2014/01/german-holocaust-german-genocide-9-to-15-million-germans-killed-1945-1953-the-morgenthau-plan-eisenhowers-death-camps-a-forgotten-genocide/

I haven't made a deep look into this though.
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April 10, 2015, 11:58:34 PM
Truth is not established by the number of claims on one side or the other.  Almost everything about WWII is documented and the records are stored.  For example every single Allied flight mission, every person on those missions, where they went and what they did.  Even the secret records are no longer secret, IIRC.

We can't be sure about that. Even in most recorded wars, people can do things secretly. However, most of the things record say will be true.

While telling others (us) not to believe propaganda (anti-Muslim), you use it yourself for your own purposes(pro-Muslim)?

I didn't understand exactly what you are saying. Probably, you can clarify a bit?

You've claimed that the USA starved to death or killed something like 1.7 million German soldiers in some kind of camps.  The absurd claim is yours to prove.  That's half of the German military fatalities.

You have massive inventory of facts on the Internet about WWII, and many students of history.  You make the fantastic claim that somehow, 1.7M soldiers could be killed "in secret."  I don't buy that.  It's not that easy to keep secrets.

Now how exactly would such a thing be done?  It would have to be in places OTHER THAN those my grandfather was at when he was in charge of holding German soldiers after they surrendered.  Somewhere that he had not ever heard about.  You see it would have to even be kept secret from many who were in charge of guarding the German prisoners.  

More importantly, the charges make zero sense.  Why would anyone want to do such a thing?  For what gain?  Large numbers of German prisoners of war were brought to the USA during the war to work in farming and manufacturing.  Because we needed workers - just about all the men were overseas.  After the war, with the exception of (1) the rocket engineers and scientists (2) those held for possible war crimes like the SS - prisoners of war were simply let go.  Who cared about them?  You see they were no longer soldiers.  They went back and started their lives over.

You see, when a war is over, when the conflict is ended, people go back to  living regular lives as best they can.

http://www.world-war-2.info
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April 10, 2015, 11:28:10 PM
i think you are wise enough to know who controls wikipedia Smiley

As I have already posted multiple times, Wikipedia can't be an unbiased source for articles in the following topics: Politics, Religion, History, and Crime. However, Wikipedia can be a good reference for subjects in other topics, such as Flora & Fauna, Linguistics, Sports, Science, Medicine.etc.
If you think Wikipedia is biased then have a look at this- http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Islam
Some parts of the article are hillarious.

I don't know much about various wikis hosted in wikia, so I am not going to comment on it. If you want unbiased and quality information, then you should refer the Encyclopedia Britannica or some other reputed reference material. I was an editor with Wikipedia from 2004 to 2011, and I know very well what is going on there right now.
I always used to think that there must be many people working with Wikipedia and all will have different believes and faiths, but still is it possible for an organisation like Wikipedia to get biased?

It is possible. If there are people who check recent edits, they can/may correct biased edits, however, we can't tell it doesn't have any biased sentences in it.
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April 10, 2015, 11:18:16 PM
i think you are wise enough to know who controls wikipedia Smiley

As I have already posted multiple times, Wikipedia can't be an unbiased source for articles in the following topics: Politics, Religion, History, and Crime. However, Wikipedia can be a good reference for subjects in other topics, such as Flora & Fauna, Linguistics, Sports, Science, Medicine.etc.
If you think Wikipedia is biased then have a look at this- http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Islam
Some parts of the article are hillarious.

I don't know much about various wikis hosted in wikia, so I am not going to comment on it. If you want unbiased and quality information, then you should refer the Encyclopedia Britannica or some other reputed reference material. I was an editor with Wikipedia from 2004 to 2011, and I know very well what is going on there right now.

Thanks, i'll just pass this information along to Jimmy Wales and see what he thinks about your comments
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April 10, 2015, 11:17:04 PM
i think you are wise enough to know who controls wikipedia Smiley

As I have already posted multiple times, Wikipedia can't be an unbiased source for articles in the following topics: Politics, Religion, History, and Crime. However, Wikipedia can be a good reference for subjects in other topics, such as Flora & Fauna, Linguistics, Sports, Science, Medicine.etc.
If you think Wikipedia is biased then have a look at this- http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Islam
Some parts of the article are hillarious.

I don't know much about various wikis hosted in wikia, so I am not going to comment on it. If you want unbiased and quality information, then you should refer the Encyclopedia Britannica or some other reputed reference material. I was an editor with Wikipedia from 2004 to 2011, and I know very well what is going on there right now.
I always used to think that there must be many people working with Wikipedia and all will have different believes and faiths, but still is it possible for an organisation like Wikipedia to get biased?
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April 10, 2015, 11:12:31 PM
i think you are wise enough to know who controls wikipedia Smiley

As I have already posted multiple times, Wikipedia can't be an unbiased source for articles in the following topics: Politics, Religion, History, and Crime. However, Wikipedia can be a good reference for subjects in other topics, such as Flora & Fauna, Linguistics, Sports, Science, Medicine.etc.
If you think Wikipedia is biased then have a look at this- http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Islam
Some parts of the article are hillarious.

I don't know much about various wikis hosted in wikia, so I am not going to comment on it. If you want unbiased and quality information, then you should refer the Encyclopedia Britannica or some other reputed reference material. I was an editor with Wikipedia from 2004 to 2011, and I know very well what is going on there right now.
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April 10, 2015, 09:52:26 PM
Truth is not established by the number of claims on one side or the other.  Almost everything about WWII is documented and the records are stored.  For example every single Allied flight mission, every person on those missions, where they went and what they did.  Even the secret records are no longer secret, IIRC.

We can't be sure about that. Even in most recorded wars, people can do things secretly. However, most of the things record say will be true.

Next you will be claiming that 4 million Jews did not die in concentration camps.

I would never say that.

While telling others (us) not to believe propaganda (anti-Muslim), you use it yourself for your own purposes(pro-Muslim)?

I didn't understand exactly what you are saying. Probably, you can clarify a bit?
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