Topic: Why do islam hates people? - page 143. (Read 437405 times)

Copycat.   

I don't see any place in the Bible that Jesus has said that He is or isn't "a holy spirit." However, Jesus isn't THE Holy Spirit.

Jesus died for the sins of people. He suffered to maintain the whole universe - God can't stand imperfection; God might have destroyed the whole universe if Jesus hadn't suffered to maintain it; Jesus' death and resurrection are the things that atone for sin in mankind.

All sin by all people has been atoned for by Jesus. All wrongdoings of Islamites and Christians and everyone else have been atoned for by Jesus. Technically speaking, they CAN do all the wrong they want, and it has all been atoned for. However, there is a little catch called faith and unbelief.

The Bible tells us that the only sin that is not forgiven is the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. What is that one unforgiven/unforgivable sin? It is locked-in unbelief that Jesus is the worldwide Savior.  Locked-in.

When is a person locked in to what he believes and doesn't believe? There is really only one time. It is at his death, because after death, he can't change anything about what he believes and doesn't believe. He is dead. He can't do anything.

The point? The more that people sin intentionally, the more they push themselves toward unbelief. And the closer they come to unbelief, the closer they come to dying in that unbelief = locking themselves into unbelief = committing the one unforgivable sin, the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

Believe in the salvation of Jesus while there is still time for you, before you die and lock yourself into the one sin that can't be forgiven, thereby losing Heaven.

There you go again. More character ASSASSINATION. You seem to like to assassinate me. Would you even give a person the knowledge of why you were assassinating him before you did it? You didn't tell it to me. You simply proceeded with the character assassination.

There you go again. More character ASSASSINATION. You seem to like to assassinate me. Would you even give a person the knowledge of why you were assassinating him before you did it? You didn't tell it to me. You simply proceeded with the character assassination.

More and more you look like one of these Extremists who happens to be on the Internet to try to convince people that you are peaceful, so that when they believe you, they are much easier to lead to the slaughter than if they think you are violent.

decker, you couldnt see an understanding on the subject? you had to spread more FUD right?

breach of the will of any individuals, for what ever reason will be met with extreme violence by certain individuals having the mean to defend themselves...

ex: A POTRF decide to drink Vodka in Makah (A Stalinlike) good luck in trying to stop him... what ever your belief. And if you don't believe me, it's because your historic perspective a screwed. (be assured, it's too hot for a stalinlike, so it's purely hypothetical example ).

Not that it can't be digested, just that it's totally boring, uninteresting, dogmatic, something we've heard a thousand times before with minor variations, robotic, embedded virus-like memes trogen-like brain infection, silly, all too common.

At least in the USA the evangelical religious people have jobs and work then take a hour or two.  Seems like a lot of those in the middle east have no jobs and go at this stuff full time.

Well, to be honest, we believe Jesus is a prophet and Allah is God. Nothing "other than this". Jesus has said clearly Jesus isn't a holy spirit. Also, according to your belief, Christians can do any wrong things as Jesus already died for their sins which is nonesense. Jesus slavation is over. Muhammad(PBUH) is mentioned in Bible and to follow prophet.

* This maybe something atheists can't digest, so better not to talk about this unless you need to.

Video: Italian police arrest 15 after Muslim refugees throw 12 Christians overboard


Italian police have arrested 15 Muslim refugees after they murdered 12 Christians in their boat as they all fled Libya. The story of the murders broke yesterday afternoon, and CNN’s Ben Wederman provides the follow-up. Ten others rescued in another set of boats were also arrested for human trafficking:


Muslims who were among migrants trying to get from Libya to Italy in a boat this week threw 12 fellow passengers overboard — killing them — because the 12 were Christians, Italian police said Thursday.

Italian authorities have arrested 15 people on suspicion of murdering the Christians at sea, police in Palermo, Sicily, said.

The original group of 105 people left Libya on Tuesday in a rubber boat. Sometime during the trip north across the Mediterranean Sea, the alleged assailants — Muslims from the Ivory Coast, Mali and Senegal — threw the 12 overboard, police said.


They would have killed more, but the rest of the refugees linked themselves together to prevent it:


Other people on the voyage told police that they themselves were spared “because they strongly opposed the drowning attempt and formed a human chain,” Palermo police said.


The irony here, of course, is that the refugees only had one possible destination — Italy, a very Christian country. No other country has put as many resources into humanitarian efforts for North African refugees, and this won’t encourage many others to start. Where exactly did these murderers think they were going to land, anyway? Raqqa? Tehran? One has to wonder why these cowards got in the boats in the first place. Libya provides all sorts of havens now for those who want to kill Christians.

This may also force Italy to consider its policy in the Mediterranean as well. The sheer volume of refugees alone has already taxed its economic resources, but the Italians have a great deal of sympathy for those forced to flee because of terrorism and intolerance. If the intolerant are hitching rides, and indeed murdering Christians on the way to Italy, then they have to wonder how many more like them have already entered, and how many more may be on the way. Wederman notes at the end of this report that Italians are already questioning just how much more they can do, and this may have them wondering whether they have a lot more to do on internal security now as well.

If the Italians awaken to this threat, they’ll be a little ahead of the now-deceased editor of Charlie Hebdo. The Washington Post’s Daniela Deane reports that Stephane Charbonnier had just finished writing a short book two days before Islamists massacred “Charb” and several of his staff in which he argued that Islamaphobia was a form of racism, and that the danger from Islamists was no different than that from “Catholic fascists.” Charbonnier accused journalists and politicians of exploiting Islamists for their own ends:


In an eerily prescient reference, Charbonnier writes in the book that “one day, just for laughs, I should publish all the threat letters that I received at Charlie Hebdo from Catholic fascists and Muslim fascists” alike. Charbonnier received death threats after Charlie Hebdo first published cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad in 2006.

In his book, which contains no cartoon caricatures, Charbonnier criticizes people who demonize Muslims.

“If one day all Muslims in France converted to Catholicism … these foreigners or French of foreign origin would still be seen as responsible for all ills,” he wrote.

Charbonnier accused the media of helping to popularize the term “Islamophobia,” saying that “any scandal that contains the word Islam in its title sells. A terrorist is scary, but if you add that he’s an Islamist, everyone wets themselves,” he wrote.


That’s a little incoherent, although to be fair we are not seeing the full context of the remarks. The term “Islamophobia” is primarily used to accuse people of racism, not to indulge in it, although Charbonnier notes that the double standard employed by such critics also qualifies as a kind of racism. The media that sell the word “Islamophobia” do so in order to delegitimize criticism of Islamists, not to participate in it. And at any rate, it’s worth noting that the so-called “Catholic fascists” didn’t participate in any actual attacks, while Charlie Hebdo had suffered two from Islamists. Charbonnier appeared committed to his state of denial until the very end.


http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/17/video-italian-police-arrest-15-after-muslim-refugees-throw-12-christians-overboard/

At the base and core is this great difference between Christianity and Islam. It is the difference that makes Islam look like a religion of hate to the Christian (and it is not the words of violence in the Quran).

The difference is that the Christian understands that Jesus is God, and that only Jesus saves. The Islamite believes other than this. This makes the Christian world feel that Islam hates those that it takes into false belief, finally to their destruction, by pulling them away from the truth of the only salvation, Jesus salvation.

Any person who stands on the simplistic idea that the only thing that exists is what we see around us, may be inclined to be an atheist. He might suggest that all religions are a bunch of silliness. But to the people of the religions, their pet religion is a way of life that is very important to them.

The question is, what is the truth of the whole question of God and religion? A second question is, why do you think so?

Well that makes a great deal of sense then.

which i do, and many like me do the same. . .

But I'd also, if I was a Muslim, laugh off people making cartoons about Mohammed.  I'd spend my time on the severe insults to my religion from WITHIN my religion.  Therein lies the true Great Satan.

i agree with you. but that does not change anything. i blame them for using sacred words to propagate their hate, their massacre and their false view about Islam, but that does not change Islam and the Quraan. it is not because of THEM fools that you put blatant accusations on a religion.
besides, another person with another faith and beliefs put a mask and say the same words, doesnt make them a muslim either. doesnt make Islam and the Quraan hate violent accolades.

This is ultimately all that matters. It couldn't matter less to me how you behave within the rules of your own religion. It only matters to me how you treat other people. To me, you can't be a good person in a strictly religious context. You can only be a good person through your actions.


I see your point here and I agree with it.

and yes, even people who dont like me are my friends if they need help, ill help. no matter who you are, what you have done to me, what you will do to me. we are still friends

We live on this earth together. I accept any person as friend who will accept me as such. I accept you as friend.

Is "islamaphobia" and "islamaphobic" violent? I haven't told anything except that about you in the quotes you made.

P.S. I won't assassinate you or anyone. Besides, you should understand what assassinate means. I haven't teared your character except that I told you are islamaphobic and what such people do. If you think I did, sorry!