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April 13, 2015, 10:04:56 AM
The funniest part of this debate: it is OK for fake bruce lee to say why Christians are wrong to believe what they believe, but it is wrong for Christians to question fake bruce lee's faith...


What would happen if ANYONE of any faith or lack thereof, would write the same thing, but replacing one thing: the first word of the sentence...


Would fake bruce lee be happy?

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All i can say is, its very common for him to question or say it is wrong because he doesn't know much about Christianity.

I didn't understand what Wilikon said but I do think my avatar has something to do with it. Nonetheless, his memes are good.

Waterpile, show me wrong things in the claims about it. Christianity take that "one" as proof for Jesus is God, however, that "one" is for "purpose" not for one in "person". CMIIW. Thanks.

I got to agree with Wilikon and the fake bruce lee he is referring to is you,  well fake Bruce Lee "its OK for fake bruce lee to say why Christians are wrong to believe what they believe, but it is wrong for Christians to question fake bruce lee's faith"
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April 13, 2015, 03:36:46 AM
The funniest part of this debate: it is OK for fake bruce lee to say why Christians are wrong to believe what they believe, but it is wrong for Christians to question fake bruce lee's faith...


What would happen if ANYONE of any faith or lack thereof, would write the same thing, but replacing one thing: the first word of the sentence...


Would fake bruce lee be happy?

[ center][ img]http://i.imgur.com/7y4ZHCG.gif[/img][/center]

All i can say is, its very common for him to question or say it is wrong because he doesn't know much about Christianity.

I didn't understand what Wilikon said but I do think my avatar has something to do with it. Nonetheless, his memes are good.

Waterpile, show me wrong things in the claims about it. Christianity take that "one" as proof for Jesus is God, however, that "one" is for "purpose" not for one in "person". CMIIW. Thanks.
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April 13, 2015, 12:32:22 AM
The problem with Islam regarding Muslim extremists is, because of the words that express hate and violence in the Quran and Hadith (or seem to), Islam can be interpreted by sincere extremists to be a religion of violence, or it can be used as an excuse for violence by insincere extremists. Sometimes the two groups are mixed, the insincere Muslims using the sincere ones.

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Yes that is absolutely correct. Imagine I saw a video where this insane long bearded guy is convinced youngsters that yes if anyone is not a muslim it is okay to shoot him dead right there on the street and take everything he owns and take his wife and kids for yourself......

I really saw that and I know for sure some think like that.... no that is very scary because yes how will you distinguish between someone like them and well...... any of other long bearded muslims...
Maybe start by asking his opinion of Sayyad Qutb?



Hmm... Someone else, beside Wilikon, who knows that name?

Everyone else. Let's go kid! Hit that google search and get an education!


 Smiley



I'm impressed.
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April 12, 2015, 11:43:45 PM
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines". -Bertrand Russell

After reading a little of this topic I have to say that - we people have a long way ahead of us before ^this^ happens.
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April 12, 2015, 11:30:22 PM
Dear Muslims, get it through your polygamous skulls, Christianity does not have a pope. That is catholicms. Two radically different faiths based on the same bible.

I don't think this is accurate. Catholicism and Christianity are not different religions because Christianity is just the broadest category of the subset. Catholicism is a type of Christianity, as is Protestantism, Presbyterianism, Mormonism, and many others. The same way as there are many sects of Islam: Sunni, Shia, Sufi, etc.

False. You are wrong. try again Muslim Chrisitianity discreditor.
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April 12, 2015, 10:30:08 PM
The problem with Islam regarding Muslim extremists is, because of the words that express hate and violence in the Quran and Hadith (or seem to), Islam can be interpreted by sincere extremists to be a religion of violence, or it can be used as an excuse for violence by insincere extremists. Sometimes the two groups are mixed, the insincere Muslims using the sincere ones.

Smiley

Yes that is absolutely correct. Imagine I saw a video where this insane long bearded guy is convinced youngsters that yes if anyone is not a muslim it is okay to shoot him dead right there on the street and take everything he owns and take his wife and kids for yourself......

I really saw that and I know for sure some think like that.... no that is very scary because yes how will you distinguish between someone like them and well...... any of other long bearded muslims...
Maybe start by asking his opinion of Sayyad Qutb?



Hmm... Someone else, beside Wilikon, who knows that name?

Everyone else. Let's go kid! Hit that google search and get an education!


 Smiley


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April 12, 2015, 10:06:06 PM
The problem with Islam regarding Muslim extremists is, because of the words that express hate and violence in the Quran and Hadith (or seem to), Islam can be interpreted by sincere extremists to be a religion of violence, or it can be used as an excuse for violence by insincere extremists. Sometimes the two groups are mixed, the insincere Muslims using the sincere ones.

Smiley

Yes that is absolutely correct. Imagine I saw a video where this insane long bearded guy is convinced youngsters that yes if anyone is not a muslim it is okay to shoot him dead right there on the street and take everything he owns and take his wife and kids for yourself......

I really saw that and I know for sure some think like that.... no that is very scary because yes how will you distinguish between someone like them and well...... any of other long bearded muslims...
Maybe start by asking his opinion of Sayyad Qutb?
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April 12, 2015, 09:58:57 PM
Dear Muslims, get it through your polygamous skulls, Christianity does not have a pope. That is catholicms. Two radically different faiths based on the same bible.
Having been involved in both before I got smarter, no they are not "radically different faiths".

However the radical end of Catholicism is radically different than the radical end of say, fundamentalist Christianity.  But both radical ends are radically different that the vast bulk of normal people.  But then there are radical normal people of no faith, too.  Then there are the most boring of all, the ones who are so normal they are radically normal.
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April 12, 2015, 09:52:09 PM
Sorry guys I came late here today, I have been a bit busy.

Regarding Muslims being subjected to Imams. That is a natural flow that would seem lke it but it is not. It all came from prayers. You see in prayers as a group there would be a single person to lead the prayer. The person is selected using a certain criteria. To be brief and sum it up he would be the most knowledgeable and well versed in the religion. Now when members of this group or community seeks information about the religion they would naturally go to the most knowledgeable of them all. Because of that it seems on the surface that they are subject to the Imam, which is not.

I am a bit sleepy so I might have screwed up what I intended to convey above. I will explain further if any have any questions.
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April 12, 2015, 09:13:54 PM
Dear Muslims, get it through your polygamous skulls, Christianity does not have a pope. That is catholicms. Two radically different faiths based on the same bible.

I don't think this is accurate. Catholicism and Christianity are not different religions because Christianity is just the broadest category of the subset. Catholicism is a type of Christianity, as is Protestantism, Presbyterianism, Mormonism, and many others. The same way as there are many sects of Islam: Sunni, Shia, Sufi, etc.
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April 12, 2015, 08:55:14 PM

The funniest part of this debate: it is OK for fake bruce lee to say why Christians are wrong to believe what they believe, but it is wrong for Christians to question fake bruce lee's faith...


What would happen if ANYONE of any faith or lack thereof, would write the same thing, but replacing one thing: the first word of the sentence...


Would fake bruce lee be happy?






All i can say is, its very common for him to question or say it is wrong because he doesn't know much about Christianity.
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April 12, 2015, 08:37:15 PM
What if one woman was his wife and others were his sisters or cousins or one wife, one mom and one sister? There are many possibilities too. And yes, It is also possible they are all his wives.

To answer your statement: A muslim is permitted to have upto 4 women at a time but even with two wives, it is hard to do justice to them. I read Islamic teachings when you have more than one wife, I must say, it is really hard. I don't even think about having more than 1 wife that time forth.

Male to female ratio is unbalanced not because of muslims "only".
I didn't mean to say that male to female ratio is dis balanced because of muslims.
Now can you also describe the "good" in having 4 wives? Isn't this anti-social and unethical?
Why doesn't your religion care to treat the female followers of the same religion with respect??
How will you feel if your sister marries a man who already has 3 wives and is sex crazy?

Okay. Nope. It will be hard for a Muslim to follow the Islamic teachings regarding husband & wife if he had more than one woman. Islam abolished killing female infant and burying infants alive etc... They are also seen equally. It was more like a personal question, however, I will answer it. In Islam, you aren't obliged to marry if you don't like him. She can avoid marrying him. Besides, who would give her daughter or her sister to a sex crazy? You missed my point. If man can treat all wives equally, he is good to go with max. 4 wives but if he isn't, he will get severe punishment.

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Have you thought?
 -Why do Christians worship JESUS!
# If JESUS ​​is God, why did jesus die?
# God is not eternal?

 - Why Christians are subject to the POPE PAUL?
 # is not just an ordinary man (God's creation)

 -Why scripture in every church is different?
# Is not scripture gospel scaled only one god?

 - Why do Christians worship only once a week?
 # Not at any time we should submit to God?

 > You choose which one?
 (+) HEAVEN OR HELL (-) ??

(Sorry, my language is not smooth) Smiley

1) Im not big on Christianity but I believe Jesus was the son of God.

2) Why are muslims subject to Imams? is it not pretty much the same thing?

3) Pretty much just like Sunni and Shiite. People interpret and have different beliefs based on the same religion.

4)You dont have to go to church to worship do you? Do you attend the mosque 5 times a day?

1) Jesus wasn't son of God or God and he himself didn't say he was God. False interpretation by Christians.

2) I am not depth in it. So can't answer it.

3) They say they worship to one God but some of what they claim contradict it.

4) In it, CoolRunnigs21 is right except that there are fair number of people who pray in Masjid 5 times a day.

A muslim is permitted to have upto 4 women at a time

WAIT WAIT WAIT before any misunderstanding happens! He meant 4 in his life as wives not 4 as in a fivesome okay!

JUST SAYING
Hold it partner.  Now this is important.  Do they jump on the guy at the same time and on each other or not?  Or is the dude supposed to just do one per night? 

Group sex isn't allowed in Islam. This is question has complicated answer. My translation from Arabic or Malayalam to English will be bad. I will try to find an English answer for it.





The funniest part of this debate: it is OK for fake bruce lee to say why Christians are wrong to believe what they believe, but it is wrong for Christians to question fake bruce lee's faith...


What would happen if ANYONE of any faith or lack thereof, would write the same thing, but replacing one thing: the first word of the sentence...


Would fake bruce lee be happy?







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April 12, 2015, 07:58:56 PM
Then you earlied remark about fourteen gods makes no sense whatsoever, Muhammad. You just negated it yourself.

I might not have spoken correctly, then. I meant if Christians claim was that "one" regarding Jesus and God was meant to say they are one in person, then "one" regarding Jesus and apostles will make it additonal 12 Gods and will make them equal to Jesus, better to say, all apostles will be Jesus.

That would be equal to claiming that anyone who believed in the Koran was a god so there were a billion gods.

spendulus are you serious with that reply?
i really started to believe you would be more intelligent than that since you have been asking very good questions but then comes this comment.. anyways, there is only ONE God, and Muhammad (pbuh) is not the author of the Quraan. it was REVEALED to him, its called revelations but is more appropriate to use the word in arabic than using its english translation.

most of the problems that occurs comes from translation, there can be 1000 people in a room and translating arabic to english in 1000 different words

the Quraan in Arabic (its original way) is flawless, but translating into different languages gives out different words for the same arabic word
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April 12, 2015, 07:31:16 PM
Then you earlied remark about fourteen gods makes no sense whatsoever, Muhammad. You just negated it yourself.

I might not have spoken correctly, then. I meant if Christians claim was that "one" regarding Jesus and God was meant to say they are one in person, then "one" regarding Jesus and apostles will make it additonal 12 Gods and will make them equal to Jesus, better to say, all apostles will be Jesus.

That would be equal to claiming that anyone who believed in the Koran was a god so there were a billion gods.
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April 12, 2015, 06:53:31 PM
Dear Muslims, get it through your polygamous skulls, Christianity does not have a pope. That is catholicms. Two radically different faiths based on the same bible.
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April 12, 2015, 04:49:36 PM
Then you earlied remark about fourteen gods makes no sense whatsoever, Muhammad. You just negated it yourself.

I might not have spoken correctly, then. I meant if Christians claim was that "one" regarding Jesus and God was meant to say they are one in person, then "one" regarding Jesus and apostles will make it additonal 12 Gods and will make them equal to Jesus, better to say, all apostles will be Jesus.

However, their claims are false. Remaining answer to this is what in my above post. I thought you understand partially, so I only posted it.
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April 12, 2015, 04:44:03 PM
Then you earlied remark about fourteen gods makes no sense whatsoever, Muhammad. You just negated it yourself.
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April 12, 2015, 04:37:47 PM
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April 12, 2015, 04:33:29 PM
What if one woman was his wife and others were his sisters or cousins or one wife, one mom and one sister? There are many possibilities too. And yes, It is also possible they are all his wives.

To answer your statement: A muslim is permitted to have upto 4 women at a time but even with two wives, it is hard to do justice to them. I read Islamic teachings when you have more than one wife, I must say, it is really hard. I don't even think about having more than 1 wife that time forth.

Male to female ratio is unbalanced not because of muslims "only".
I didn't mean to say that male to female ratio is dis balanced because of muslims.
Now can you also describe the "good" in having 4 wives? Isn't this anti-social and unethical?
Why doesn't your religion care to treat the female followers of the same religion with respect??
How will you feel if your sister marries a man who already has 3 wives and is sex crazy?

Okay. Nope. It will be hard for a Muslim to follow the Islamic teachings regarding husband & wife if he had more than one woman. Islam abolished killing female infant and burying infants alive etc... They are also seen equally. It was more like a personal question, however, I will answer it. In Islam, you aren't obliged to marry if you don't like him. She can avoid marrying him. Besides, who would give her daughter or her sister to a sex crazy? You missed my point. If man can treat all wives equally, he is good to go with max. 4 wives but if he isn't, he will get severe punishment.

==========================================

Have you thought?
 -Why do Christians worship JESUS!
# If JESUS ​​is God, why did jesus die?
# God is not eternal?

 - Why Christians are subject to the POPE PAUL?
 # is not just an ordinary man (God's creation)

 -Why scripture in every church is different?
# Is not scripture gospel scaled only one god?

 - Why do Christians worship only once a week?
 # Not at any time we should submit to God?

 > You choose which one?
 (+) HEAVEN OR HELL (-) ??

(Sorry, my language is not smooth) Smiley

1) Im not big on Christianity but I believe Jesus was the son of God.

2) Why are muslims subject to Imams? is it not pretty much the same thing?

3) Pretty much just like Sunni and Shiite. People interpret and have different beliefs based on the same religion.

4)You dont have to go to church to worship do you? Do you attend the mosque 5 times a day?

1) Jesus wasn't son of God or God and he himself didn't say he was God. False interpretation by Christians.

2) I am not depth in it. So can't answer it.

3) They say they worship to one God but some of what they claim contradict it.

4) In it, CoolRunnigs21 is right except that there are fair number of people who pray in Masjid 5 times a day.

A muslim is permitted to have upto 4 women at a time

WAIT WAIT WAIT before any misunderstanding happens! He meant 4 in his life as wives not 4 as in a fivesome okay!

JUST SAYING
Hold it partner.  Now this is important.  Do they jump on the guy at the same time and on each other or not?  Or is the dude supposed to just do one per night? 

Group sex isn't allowed in Islam. This is question has complicated answer. My translation from Arabic or Malayalam to English will be bad. I will try to find an English answer for it.
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April 12, 2015, 04:02:09 PM
A muslim is permitted to have upto 4 women at a time

WAIT WAIT WAIT before any misunderstanding happens! He meant 4 in his life as wives not 4 as in a fivesome okay!

JUST SAYING
Hold it partner.  Now this is important.  Do they jump on the guy at the same time and on each other or not?  Or is the dude supposed to just do one per night?  

its not for SEX spendulus. its more for caring for someone, being someone who will help someone. it was never for sex. and if you are asking that, let me reply, no its not all of them at the same time.
this law is NOT an obligation, rather an option.
if you buy one chocolate bar for the first one, you have to buy for all the wives.
its always about equality.
the why, its because

you take every person on earth, you match each man with one woman. it gives you about 40% of women more than men.

what will those women do then?

mistress, lesbians, prostitutes and other bad stuff.
to be equal one man has to take at least 2 women.

but then i know what kind of reply will come out from you... the hate you have will never disapear if you dont want it to yourself
Okay, only one at a time.  Well, I thought for a moment I might be interesting in Islam.  No, thanks.

So how do you get 40% more women than men?  They are born in equal ratios?
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