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April 16, 2015, 10:13:51 AM

Actually it is other way. Psychos twists the part they want and take the part they like. Honestly, in that "twisting" and "taking" part, you are no different than them. You just took "keep mum" from my sentence and twisted. This is the same thing they are doing.

You are probably talking about verses and Hadiths at the time of war? What can we say when there is a war? "When they come with sword and kill you, don't raise your hands with intention of killing them, talk them peacefully" - This? Shocked Undecided You mist be kidding!

He won't comment on it. Why should he comment when he is an islamaphobia? He will wait for a moment to twist and spread FUD, when it comes, post here. If you check this thread, you can easily understand and/or see this behaviour.

hahahaha zakir you were right, and i was wishing i would be wrong this time. he did it again LOL
this guy dont know anything about his religion, he just googles whatever he needs when he need to reply.
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I told you he is an islamaphobia. The problem with a phobic is that he only thinks with a phobic mind which is very limited when he thinks of what his phobia is about. So he can't grasp it and spread FUD. Unfortunately, that's what he is doing but I don't blame him as phobics are like that. Sad

its a sad disease. when you are phobic you are like in a bubble and think that only in that bubble you are safe... until one day the bubble breaks and you fall high on your bottom... sad for this guy

Did you ever notice that one of the things that the Islamic Fundamentalist Extremists do on a regular basis is to assassinate people? Often the people who they assassinate are not fighting them at all. Many of these people are innocent bystanders.

Perhaps the Islamic Fundamentalist Extremists are mistaken, thinking that they do right, when they are really doing wrong. Perhaps they are liars - are not really Islamic - and are simply using the name "Islam" to make Islam look bad. But, maybe there is more truth to the idea of hate and violence built right into Islam that we generally understand.

What would Muhammed Zakir and Netpyder - peaceful Islamites - do if they were in a room with me, BADecker, and they had guns and I didn't? Look at the above quotes by these two guys, and then judge for yourself. They aren't in a room with me where I have to defend myself best as I can. So, they assassinate me in the only way that they can... character assassination. And Netpyder even talked about putting a bullet in my brain in a previous post.

Do you see me going around tearing down their characters except, perhaps a little, as a defense when they do it to me first? No! All my posts are pointed at their religion, Islam.

We are beginning to see that Islam is hateful and violent. It is built right into the religion so craftily that even peaceful people like Muhammed Zakir and Netpyder can't help but express the hate and violence that their religion leads them into.

If you are truly interested in a religion of peace, come on over to Christianity. And even though you are not interested in violence, protect yourself from the built-in, inherent violence and hate of Islam.

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April 16, 2015, 02:19:31 AM
islam is not hate the people may be zealot,bully muslims hate the people but this doesnt make islam hate people.
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April 15, 2015, 11:26:55 PM
@BADecker:

5:8 - “O ye who believe! stand out ... scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

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Whereas the Bible has well documented authorship Moses, Mark, John, Mathew, from what I could find it seems that the question of who authored the Quran is about as mysterious as who is or are Satoshi Nakamoto.  It could have had many authors like the Bible does.  As one who has read much of the bible previously but not the Quran, I found some of these quotes familiar looking as if they were from the New Testament and someone did a search and replace. 

I will stop writing now, before someone accuses me of comparing the Koran to an altcoin.


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I understand what you are saying. When you read English transalation, it will look similar as both uses old English and Qur'an also tells history of other prophets. But if you read Arabic version, you won't feel similarity. There is also many translation mistakes when Arabic is translated to other language. Arabic language is not so good when translating and I think it might be same with other languages. However, Qur'an is very different from Bible. You probably have read a small part only.

P.S. It looks like you haven't read but only looked at a few quotes.
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April 15, 2015, 05:15:22 PM
@BADecker:

5:8 - “O ye who believe! stand out ... scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

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Whereas the Bible has well documented authorship Moses, Mark, John, Mathew, from what I could find it seems that the question of who authored the Quran is about as mysterious as who is or are Satoshi Nakamoto.  It could have had many authors like the Bible does.  As one who has read much of the bible previously but not the Quran, I found some of these quotes familiar looking as if they were from the New Testament and someone did a search and replace. 

I will stop writing now, before someone accuses me of comparing the Koran to an altcoin.


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April 15, 2015, 03:51:42 PM
Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.  

That's over and done.  That's what the phrase means.


Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit.
Universal truth?

I am only referring to the way the phrase is being perverted which is well understood.

...and declaring it to be the exclusive meaning of the phrase. Does that seem fair to you? (At least, it seems to me you are declaring that to be the case with the conclusion "That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.")
Okay, let me restrict the scope of my comment to something like "In america", or "In non-muslim countries" or such.  Obviously if a Muslim heard it he knows what the words mean.

But when a US citizen hears it in the context of foreign words in English, it pretty much refers to something a foaming at the mouth mad dog Islamic Terrorist HAS been reported to have said in the midst of heinous unprovoked acts.

I think this is closer to fair. But I am an American, and when I hear the phrase, I understand it's association with violent acts (especially to Americans who mostly hear it exclusively in that context), but I also know this to be a fringe use of the phrase.
Where I'm headed with that is that if I was Muslim I'd consider it a severe insult for extremists to have hijacked what are essentially from that world view, sacred words.

Then again as you mention from within their world speaking Farsi and such they may not even realize that has happened.
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April 15, 2015, 03:48:47 PM
Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.  

That's over and done.  That's what the phrase means.


Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit.
Universal truth?

I am only referring to the way the phrase is being perverted which is well understood.

...and declaring it to be the exclusive meaning of the phrase. Does that seem fair to you? (At least, it seems to me you are declaring that to be the case with the conclusion "That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.")
Okay, let me restrict the scope of my comment to something like "In america", or "In non-muslim countries" or such.  Obviously if a Muslim heard it he knows what the words mean.

But when a US citizen hears it in the context of foreign words in English, it pretty much refers to something a foaming at the mouth mad dog Islamic Terrorist HAS been reported to have said in the midst of heinous unprovoked acts.

I think this is closer to fair. But I am an American, and when I hear the phrase, I understand it's association with violent acts (especially to Americans who mostly hear it exclusively in that context), but I also know this to be a fringe use of the phrase.
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April 15, 2015, 02:21:43 PM
Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.  

That's over and done.  That's what the phrase means.


Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit.
Universal truth?

I am only referring to the way the phrase is being perverted which is well understood.

...and declaring it to be the exclusive meaning of the phrase. Does that seem fair to you? (At least, it seems to me you are declaring that to be the case with the conclusion "That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.")
Okay, let me restrict the scope of my comment to something like "In america", or "In non-muslim countries" or such.  Obviously if a Muslim heard it he knows what the words mean.

But when a US citizen hears it in the context of foreign words in English, it pretty much refers to something a foaming at the mouth mad dog Islamic Terrorist HAS been reported to have said in the midst of heinous unprovoked acts.
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April 15, 2015, 02:14:28 PM
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April 15, 2015, 02:12:26 PM
I told you he is an islamaphobia. The problem with a phobic is that he only thinks with a phobic mind which is very limited when he thinks of what his phobia is about. So he can't grasp it and spread FUD. Unfortunately, that's what he is doing but I don't blame him as phobics are like that. Sad
Watching you two debate, part of it is watching the wrong ideas BOTH of you come up with.
 And you have as many as he does.  Eisenhower the Mass Murderer is a pretty good bit of crazy talk.

Of course I am right on this, because the only time I was wrong was when I doubted I was right.
See?  I'm totally right.  Zakir is totally right.  Badecker is totally right.
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April 15, 2015, 02:10:05 PM
I told you he is an islamaphobia. The problem with a phobic is that he only thinks with a phobic mind which is very limited when he thinks of what his phobia is about. So he can't grasp it and spread FUD. Unfortunately, that's what he is doing but I don't blame him as phobics are like that. Sad

its a sad disease. when you are phobic you are like in a bubble and think that only in that bubble you are safe... until one day the bubble breaks and you fall high on your bottom... sad for this guy
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April 15, 2015, 02:05:27 PM
I told you he is an islamaphobia. The problem with a phobic is that he only thinks with a phobic mind which is very limited when he thinks of what his phobia is about. So he can't grasp it and spread FUD. Unfortunately, that's what he is doing but I don't blame him as phobics are like that. Sad
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April 15, 2015, 01:57:35 PM
@redsn0w: I have no intention to offend BADecker or any other islamaphobia. They are spreading lies.

It seems the contrary. Everyone wants to have the right but there isn't exist "that right".


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Actually it is other way. Psychos twists the part they want and take the part they like. Honestly, in that "twisting" and "taking" part, you are no different than them. You just took "keep mum" from my sentence and twisted. This is the same thing they are doing.
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It is rather entertaining to watch Zakir and Badecker debate.

A Muslim fundamentalist against a Christian fundmentalist.

who would ever have thought....


Who will win? I think the atheist will win this "match" ... who is atheist here?





Atheism is a weak religion that has little evidence to suggest that there is any truth to it whatsoever.

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It is not a religion, if you don't believe in a God then we cannot call it religion. Correct me if I'm wrong.


The evidences of the universe suggest there is a God outside of man himself. Atheists suggest that there is no God in the face of the evidences for God. Thus, the atheists are setting themselves up as God, even though they don't recognize that this is what they are doing. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395. So, atheism has a God. It is mankind, himself, even though he is self-contradictory in his religion of atheism.

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April 15, 2015, 01:52:19 PM

we muslims believe in Jesus more than you christians do Cheesy
have a great time spreading your hate everywhere mate.
That might be true in some ways regarding some Christians and some Islamites.


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If you don't accept the salvation that Jesus provides for all people, you will be lost and destroyed.

well doesnt sound like a very merciful god you got there Sad to bad for me i guess?.. yeah right

The depth of the human soul as it is connected to nature and the universe, combined with the complexity of the universe, makes it very difficult to save the soul. There is only one way to be saved - the saving of the soul. It is through accepting the work that Jesus did on the cross.

The greatest reason that Islam is a hateful religion is that, while Islam might talk about Jesus, it bypasses the major reason why Jesus came to the earth at all. And in so doing, Islam condemns its followers to the destruction of Hell, just like it speaks many major violence directives in its holy books.

Words of warning to Islamites and others are just that... words of warning. The words of warning express the violence that will take place on the earth for all who do not accept the only salvation, the salvation Jesus provides. They are words of warning designed to bring Islamites and others out of the disaster that is befalling them for not accepting Jesus salvation.

If Islamites want to think that Christianity is directing words of violence at them, they are missing the point. It is the words of Islam that are making the violence REAL for Islamites by pointing them away from the only salvation that there is, Jesus salvation. Islam is a lie that is bringing Islamites to the violent destruction that awaits them when it points them away from Jesus salvation, the only salvation that exists.

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@redsn0w: I have no intention to offend BADecker or any other islamaphobia. They are spreading lies.

It seems the contrary. Everyone wants to have the right but there isn't exist "that right".


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Actually it is other way. Psychos twists the part they want and take the part they like. Honestly, in that "twisting" and "taking" part, you are no different than them. You just took "keep mum" from my sentence and twisted. This is the same thing they are doing.
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It is rather entertaining to watch Zakir and Badecker debate.

A Muslim fundamentalist against a Christian fundmentalist.

who would ever have thought....


Who will win? I think the atheist will win this "match" ... who is atheist here?





Atheism is a weak religion that has little evidence to suggest that there is any truth to it whatsoever.

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It is not a religion, if you don't believe in a God then we cannot call it religion. Correct me if I'm wrong.


So, that's all you have left, laughing taunts. That's the same thing that the people who were crucifying Jesus did to Him. I don't have the strength of Jesus, but He grants me a portion of His strength.

If you don't accept the salvation that Jesus provides for all people, you will be lost and destroyed. Come, now, and seek Jesus. He is near you, and ready to save you in your weakness, if only you call on Him.

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we muslims believe in Jesus more than you christians do Cheesy
have a great time spreading your hate everywhere mate.

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If you don't accept the salvation that Jesus provides for all people, you will be lost and destroyed.

well doesnt sound like a very merciful god you got there Sad to bad for me i guess?.. yeah right

I have heard that the prophet Jesus is nominated more times than the other one (Mohammed) in the Quran, or am I wrong?
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April 15, 2015, 01:43:54 PM
Actually, the phrase "allah akbar" has already been hijacked to refer to gibberish spouted by a maniac in a pseudo-Islamic killing frenzy.  

That's over and done.  That's what the phrase means.


Even I think you are letting your own bias and hatred color things too much now. You take something you have a one-dimensional view of and declare it to be a universal truth? Get over yourself a bit.
Universal truth?

I am only referring to the way the phrase is being perverted which is well understood.

...and declaring it to be the exclusive meaning of the phrase. Does that seem fair to you? (At least, it seems to me you are declaring that to be the case with the conclusion "That's over and done. That's what the phrase means.")
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April 15, 2015, 01:42:58 PM
@BADecker:

5:8 - “O ye who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do”

“Do not be people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)

Bukhari, Book 43, Number 624:
Narrated Anas:

“Allah's Apostle said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one. People asked, "O Allah's Apostle! It is all right to help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?" The Prophet said, "By preventing him from oppressing others."”

Muslim, Book 31, Number 5881:

Ibn Umar reported that when 'Abdullah b. Ubayy b. Salul (the hypocrite) died, his son Abdullah b. Abdullah came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon -him) and asked him to give his shirt which should be used for the coffin of his father. He gave that to him. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) stood up to say prayer over him Thereupon I Umar caught hold of the clothe of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Allah's Messenger, are you going to offer prayer, whereas Allah has forbidden to offer prayer for him, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Allah has given me a choice saying: Ask forgiveness for them or you may not ask for them; even if you ask for them seventy times, I will make an addition to the seventy.

He once decided to personally visit the village of Ta'if, to the east of Makkah, to invite its inhabitants to Islam. The people rejected him, stoned him, ejected him, and made him to bleed. Angel Gabriel came to him and said:
"Allah has heard what your people say to you and how they reject you. He has ordered the angels of the mountains to obey whatever you tell them to do." The angel of the mountains called him, greeted him and said, "Send me to do what you wish. If you wish, I will crush them between the two mountains of Makkah."
The Prophet said:
"Rather, I hope that Allah will bring forth from their loins those who will worship Allah alone and not associate anything with Him."  (Al-Bukhari)

attacked the Muslims, Prophet Muhammad suffered head injury and his front teeth got smashed. When the blood started to seep from his head, he swabbed it saying:
"If a drop of my blood fell on the earth, those infidels will be destroyed by Allah." Umar told him, O Messenger of Allah, Curse them! The prophet replied: "I wasn't sent (by Allah) to curse. I was sent as a mercy." Then he said: "O Allah, Guide my people!" (Authenticated by Al-Albani)
God confirms his blessed character by saying:
{And We have not sent you forth but as a mercy to mankind.} (Al-Anbiya’ 21:107)

The Prophet once said:
"A true believer is one with whom others feel secure." (Al-Bukhari)

A Bedouin once entered the mosque and started to urinate in it. Mosques at that time had no walls and carpeted floors and the ceilings were palm leaves held up by palm stems. The people ran to (prevent and restrain) him. The Prophet said:
"Do not interrupt his urination (i.e. let him finish). Then the Prophet asked for a pitcher of water to be poured over the place of urine. (Al-Bukhari)


"By God, he is not a believer, by God, he is not a believer, by God, he is not a believer, with whom his neighbors are not secure." (Al-Bukhari)

Anas ibn Malik, who served the Prophet for ten years, said that the Prophet never rebuked him:
"When I did something, he never questioned my manner of doing it; and when I did not do something, he never questioned my failure to do it. He was the most good-natured of all men." (Al-Bukhari)

Hamza was among the Prophet’s most beloved uncles. During one of the battles, Hend, the wife of Abu Sufyan, the arch enemy of the Prophet, had ordered her slave to find Hamza and pierce him with his arrow. Upon seeing him dead, she rushed to his body and cut out his liver and started chewing on it while filled with rage. Upon the conquest of Makkah, the Prophet did not seek revenge on her and accepted her and her husband as new converts and gave them full protection.

Once, when the Prophet was sitting at a place in Madinah, along with his companions, a funeral procession passed by. On seeing this, the Prophet stood up. One of his companions remarked that the funeral was that of a Jew. The Prophet replied:
"Was he not a human being?" (Muslim)

The Prophet and his followers suffered a great deal during their thirteen years of living in Makkah and after their migration to Madinah. His own tribesmen and even family members continue to oppose him in not only in Makkah but rose to fight him in Madinah for over 20 years. They did not spear any effort to inflict the worse humanly possible hardship on them. In Makkah, it included, torture, sanctions, taking their lives’ belonging, separating family members and slaughtering them where ever they could find them. With God’s help and his and his companions’ steadfastness in Madinah and upholding the message of Islam, they finally conquered Makkah. Its leaders came to him fearing that he would kill them as all conquerors do. But instead, he said:
"Go! You are all free!" (Authenticated by Al-Albani)



What Great People said about the Prophet Muhammad PBUH?

Some of the famous, contemporary personalities who read the biography of the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, could not help but admit that he was a master with excellent manners and an honorable character, and the following are some of their sayings:

Michael Hart , author of ‘The 100:
A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History’ said: "My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level.”

George Bernard Shaw, the British playwright said:
“The world is in dire need of a man with the mind of Muhammad; religious people in the Middle Ages, due to their ignorance and prejudice, had pictured him in a very dark way as they used to consider him the enemy of Christianity. But after looking into the story of this man I found it to be an amazing and a miraculous one, and I came to the conclusion that he was never an enemy of Christianity, and must be called instead the savior of humanity. In my opinion, if he was to be given control over the world today, he would solve our problems and secure the peace and happiness which the world is longing for.”

Annie Besant, wrote in ‘The Life and Teachings of Muhammad’ :
“It is impossible for anyone who studies the personality of the great Prophet of the Arabs, and come to know how this prophet he used to live, and how he taught the people, but to feel respect towards this honorable prophet; one of the great messengers whom Allaah sent”

Alphonse de La Martaine wrote in ‘Historie de la Turquie’:
"If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws, and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples, dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and the souls. Philosopher, Orator, Apostle, Legislator, Conqueror of Ideas, Restorer of Rational beliefs... The founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire -- that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?”

J.W.H. Stab wrote in ‘Islam and its Founder ’ :
“ Judged by the smallness of the means at his disposal, and the extent and permanence of the work that he accomplished, no name in world's history shines with a more specious luster than that of the Prophet of Makkah. To the impulse, which he gave, numberless dynasties have owed their existence, fair cities and stately palaces and temples have arisen, and wide provinces became obedient to the Faith. And beyond all this, his words have governed the belief of generations, been accepted as their rule of life, and their certain guide to the world to come. At a thousand shrines the voices of the faithful invoke blessings on him, whom they esteem the very Prophet of God, the seal of the Apostles… Judged by the standards to human renown, the glory of what mortal can compare with his?”

Dr. Gustav Weil writes in ‘History of the Islamic Peoples ’:
“Muhammad was a shining example to his people. His character was pure and stainless. His house, his dress, his food - they were characterized by a rare simplicity. So unpretentious was he that he would receive from his companions no special mark of reverence, nor would he accept any service from his slave which he could do for himself. He was accessible to all and at all times. He visited the sick and was full of sympathy for all. Unlimited was his benevolence and generosity as also was his anxious care for the welfare of the community.”

Th e British philosopher, Thomas Carlyle, who won the Nobel Prize for his book ‘The Heroes’ wrote:
“It is a great shame for any one to listen to the accusation that Islaam is a lie and that Muhammad was a fabricator and a deceiver. We saw that he remained steadfast upon his principles, with firm determination; kind and generous, compassionate, pious, virtuous, with real manhood, hardworking and sincere. Besides all these qualities, he was lenient with others, tolerant, kind, cheerful and praiseworthy and perhaps he would joke and tease his companions. He was just, truthful, smart, pure, magnanimous and present-minded; his face was radiant as if he had lights within him to illuminate the darkest of nights; he was a great man by nature who was not educated in a school nor nurtured by a teacher as he was not in need of any of this.”

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, the German writer said:
“Us, Europeans, with all our concepts could not reach what Muhammad has reached, and no one will be able to precede him. I have looked in the history of humanity for an example and found that it was Muhammad, as the truth must be revealed. Indeed, Muhammad succeeded to subdue the entire world to monotheism”.



Edit:

One old woman made a habit of throwing rubbish on Prophet Muhammad whenever he passed from her house. Muhammad had to pass that house daily on the way to the mosque. Even when the old woman threw rubbish on him, he would pass silently without showing any anger or annoyance. This was a regular, daily event.

One day when the Prophet was passing by, the woman was not there to throw the rubbish. He stopped and asked the neighbour about her well-being. The neighbour informed the Prophet that the woman was sick on bed. The Prophet politely asked permission to visit the woman. When allowed he entered the house, the woman thought that he had come there to take his revenge when she was unable to defend herself because of sickness. But the Prophet assured her that he had come to her, not to take any revenge, but to see her and to look after her needs, as it was the command of Allah that if any one is sick, a Muslim should visit him and should help him if his help is needed

The old woman was greatly moved by this kindness and love of the Prophet. By the example of greatness of Muhammad, she understood that he was truly the Prophet of God and Islam was the true religion. She accepted Islam at once.

On another occasion, Prophet Muhammad was on a journey. One day, at noon, Prophet Muhammad chose the shade of a small tree and rested.

One of the enemies seeing that Muhammad was alone thought it a good time to kill him quickly and quietly. He went towards him with a drawn sword and asked the Prophet:

"Tell me who can help you now?"

"Allah", replied the Prophet calmly with manifest confidence.

Seeing this calm assurance, the enemy was frightened, and the sword fell away from his hands. With the same calm, the Prophet took that sword in his own hand and asked: "Now, you tell me who is there to save you?"

"No one" replied the enemy.

"No, you are wrong, the same Allah will help you also," said the generous Prophet and let the enemy go free.
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April 15, 2015, 01:31:13 PM
@redsn0w: I have no intention to offend BADecker or any other islamaphobia. They are spreading lies.

However, when a lot of the words in the Quran and the Hadith actually SAY to do violence, and when it takes a lot of twisting of other words of the Quran and Hadith to make the violent words say "peace," who is it that is doing the lying?

If you don't want to understand that words of violence are words of violence, but rather try to convert them to words of peace even though they are words of violence, what does that really say about yourself?

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Actually it is other way. Psychos twists the part they want and take the part they like. Honestly, in that "twisting" and "taking" part, you are no different than them. You just took "keep mum" from my sentence and twisted. This is the same thing they are doing.

Wow! Great discovery! Lie of the year! If you don't know what is right, then keep mum. Undecided

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Trying to make someone else "keep mum" as you expressed it, suggests that you have something to hide, and you don't want other people bringing it out into the open.
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Except for the most important detail. This detail is that anybody can take a look and see that what I am saying is true. All they have to do is look and see what the Quran and Hadith say when they say words of violence.

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You are probably talking about verses and Hadiths at the time of war? What can we say when there is a war? "When they come with sword and kill you, don't raise your hands with intention of killing them, talk them peacefully" - This? Shocked Undecided You mist be kidding!

well everybody should just take popcorns, watch the links i just sent which you have still not commented about, and start learning a bit..

He won't comment on it. Why should he comment when he is an islamaphobia? He will wait for a moment to twist and spread FUD, when it comes, post here. If you check this thread, you can easily understand and/or see this behaviour.

Jesus says in Matthew 5:43-48:
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You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Jesus did this when He said about those who were crucifying Him, Luke 23:34:
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Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.

Saint Paul speaking about the Father and Jesus, shows what happened when Jesus did the peace that He spoke... Ephesians 2:18-25:
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I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.

You Islamites are badly mistaken about the benefits of any kind of hateful violence. Likewise, you are badly mistaken when you say that Jesus was simply another prophet.

Smiley


hahahaha zakir you were right, and i was wishing i would be wrong this time. he did it again LOL
this guy dont know anything about his religion, he just googles whatever he needs when he need to reply.
badecker thank you for your time Smiley

So, that's all you have left, laughing taunts. That's the same thing that the people who were crucifying Jesus did to Him. I don't have the strength of Jesus, but He grants me a portion of His strength.

If you don't accept the salvation that Jesus provides for all people, you will be lost and destroyed. Come, now, and seek Jesus. He is near you, and ready to save you in your weakness, if only you call on Him.

Smiley


we muslims believe in Jesus more than you christians do Cheesy
have a great time spreading your hate everywhere mate.

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If you don't accept the salvation that Jesus provides for all people, you will be lost and destroyed.

well doesnt sound like a very merciful god you got there Sad to bad for me i guess?.. yeah right
legendary
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April 15, 2015, 01:22:15 PM
@redsn0w: I have no intention to offend BADecker or any other islamaphobia. They are spreading lies.

However, when a lot of the words in the Quran and the Hadith actually SAY to do violence, and when it takes a lot of twisting of other words of the Quran and Hadith to make the violent words say "peace," who is it that is doing the lying?

If you don't want to understand that words of violence are words of violence, but rather try to convert them to words of peace even though they are words of violence, what does that really say about yourself?

Smiley

Actually it is other way. Psychos twists the part they want and take the part they like. Honestly, in that "twisting" and "taking" part, you are no different than them. You just took "keep mum" from my sentence and twisted. This is the same thing they are doing.

Wow! Great discovery! Lie of the year! If you don't know what is right, then keep mum. Undecided

 =snip=

Trying to make someone else "keep mum" as you expressed it, suggests that you have something to hide, and you don't want other people bringing it out into the open.
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Except for the most important detail. This detail is that anybody can take a look and see that what I am saying is true. All they have to do is look and see what the Quran and Hadith say when they say words of violence.

Smiley

You are probably talking about verses and Hadiths at the time of war? What can we say when there is a war? "When they come with sword and kill you, don't raise your hands with intention of killing them, talk them peacefully" - This? Shocked Undecided You mist be kidding!

well everybody should just take popcorns, watch the links i just sent which you have still not commented about, and start learning a bit..

He won't comment on it. Why should he comment when he is an islamaphobia? He will wait for a moment to twist and spread FUD, when it comes, post here. If you check this thread, you can easily understand and/or see this behaviour.

Jesus says in Matthew 5:43-48:
Quote
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Jesus did this when He said about those who were crucifying Him, Luke 23:34:
Quote
Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.

Saint Paul speaking about the Father and Jesus, shows what happened when Jesus did the peace that He spoke... Ephesians 2:18-25:
Quote
I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.

You Islamites are badly mistaken about the benefits of any kind of hateful violence. Likewise, you are badly mistaken when you say that Jesus was simply another prophet.

Smiley


hahahaha zakir you were right, and i was wishing i would be wrong this time. he did it again LOL
this guy dont know anything about his religion, he just googles whatever he needs when he need to reply.
badecker thank you for your time Smiley

So, that's all you have left, laughing taunts. That's the same thing that the people who were crucifying Jesus did to Him. I don't have the strength of Jesus, but He grants me a portion of His strength.

If you don't accept the salvation that Jesus provides for all people, you will be lost and destroyed. Come, now, and seek Jesus. He is near you, and ready to save you in your weakness, if only you call on Him.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
April 15, 2015, 01:18:14 PM
@redsn0w: I have no intention to offend BADecker or any other islamaphobia. They are spreading lies.

It seems the contrary. Everyone wants to have the right but there isn't exist "that right".


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Actually it is other way. Psychos twists the part they want and take the part they like. Honestly, in that "twisting" and "taking" part, you are no different than them. You just took "keep mum" from my sentence and twisted. This is the same thing they are doing.
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It is rather entertaining to watch Zakir and Badecker debate.

A Muslim fundamentalist against a Christian fundmentalist.

who would ever have thought....


Who will win? I think the atheist will win this "match" ... who is atheist here?





Atheism is a weak religion that has little evidence to suggest that there is any truth to it whatsoever.

Smiley
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April 15, 2015, 01:17:36 PM
@redsn0w: I have no intention to offend BADecker or any other islamaphobia. They are spreading lies.

However, when a lot of the words in the Quran and the Hadith actually SAY to do violence, and when it takes a lot of twisting of other words of the Quran and Hadith to make the violent words say "peace," who is it that is doing the lying?

If you don't want to understand that words of violence are words of violence, but rather try to convert them to words of peace even though they are words of violence, what does that really say about yourself?

Smiley

Actually it is other way. Psychos twists the part they want and take the part they like. Honestly, in that "twisting" and "taking" part, you are no different than them. You just took "keep mum" from my sentence and twisted. This is the same thing they are doing.

Wow! Great discovery! Lie of the year! If you don't know what is right, then keep mum. Undecided

 =snip=

Trying to make someone else "keep mum" as you expressed it, suggests that you have something to hide, and you don't want other people bringing it out into the open.
[

Except for the most important detail. This detail is that anybody can take a look and see that what I am saying is true. All they have to do is look and see what the Quran and Hadith say when they say words of violence.

Smiley

You are probably talking about verses and Hadiths at the time of war? What can we say when there is a war? "When they come with sword and kill you, don't raise your hands with intention of killing them, talk them peacefully" - This? Shocked Undecided You mist be kidding!

well everybody should just take popcorns, watch the links i just sent which you have still not commented about, and start learning a bit..

He won't comment on it. Why should he comment when he is an islamaphobia? He will wait for a moment to twist and spread FUD, when it comes, post here. If you check this thread, you can easily understand and/or see this behaviour.

Jesus says in Matthew 5:43-48:
Quote
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Jesus did this when He said about those who were crucifying Him, Luke 23:34:
Quote
Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.

Saint Paul speaking about the Father and Jesus, shows what happened when Jesus did the peace that He spoke... Ephesians 2:18-25:
Quote
I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.

You Islamites are badly mistaken about the benefits of any kind of hateful violence. Likewise, you are badly mistaken when you say that Jesus was simply another prophet.

Smiley


hahahaha zakir you were right, and i was wishing i would be wrong this time. he did it again LOL
this guy dont know anything about his religion, he just googles whatever he needs when he need to reply.
badecker thank you for your time Smiley
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