@redsn0w: I have no intention to offend BADecker or any other islamaphobia. They are spreading lies.
However, when a lot of the words in the Quran and the Hadith actually SAY to do violence, and when it takes a lot of twisting of other words of the Quran and Hadith to make the violent words say "peace," who is it that is doing the lying?
If you don't want to understand that words of violence are words of violence, but rather try to convert them to words of peace even though they are words of violence, what does that really say about yourself?
Actually it is other way. Psychos twists the part they want and take the part they like. Honestly, in that "twisting" and "taking" part, you are no different than them. You just took "keep mum" from my sentence and twisted. This is the same thing they are doing.
Wow! Great discovery! Lie of the year! If you don't know what is right, then keep mum.
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Trying to make someone else "keep mum" as you expressed it, suggests that you have something to hide, and you don't want other people bringing it out into the open.
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Except for the most important detail. This detail is that anybody can take a look and see that what I am saying is true. All they have to do is look and see what the Quran and Hadith say when they say words of violence.
You are probably talking about verses and Hadiths at the time of war? What can we say when there is a war? "When they come with sword and kill you, don't raise your hands with intention of killing them, talk them peacefully" - This?
You mist be kidding!
well everybody should just take popcorns, watch the links i just sent which you have still not commented about, and start learning a bit..
He won't comment on it. Why should he comment when he is an islamaphobia? He will wait for a moment to twist and spread FUD, when it comes, post here. If you check this thread, you can easily understand and/or see this behaviour.
Jesus says in Matthew 5:43-48:
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Jesus did this when He said about those who were crucifying Him, Luke 23:34:
Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.
Saint Paul speaking about the Father and Jesus, shows what happened when Jesus did the peace that He spoke... Ephesians 2:18-25:
I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.
You Islamites are badly mistaken about the benefits of any kind of hateful violence. Likewise, you are badly mistaken when you say that Jesus was simply another prophet.