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April 07, 2015, 08:47:28 PM
If it isn't true, this thread wouldn't exist.
Please do not answer with illogic. 

It is you that profess knowledge of what is in other peoples' minds, how they are influence by media and so forth.

When you never asked even if they watch media before expressing such certainty.

Indeed, this level of certainty based on insufficient facts in a practical problem, which tells us that a person has errors in judgement.

May I ask you who did it?

• Read the title.
• Read this thread.
• Check the photos I posted again.

It is clear it is media that influence than real "thinking". If you think, how can you say Islam is wrong when people who is claimed to be muslims by medias do wrong this? Who is being illogical here?

You.  You have one believed opinion (which is false) and you have attributed the root cause of that opinion to "media" when if the opinion was correct, multiple causes are plausible.

This is a confusion of fact with belief.  Believing things does not make them true.  One must simply ask, how to establish what is true.  This is an area of study called formal logic, the most famous book is Aristotle, although it had one error or oversight.

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April 07, 2015, 06:31:45 PM
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April 07, 2015, 05:50:10 PM
If it isn't true, this thread wouldn't exist.
Please do not answer with illogic. 

It is you that profess knowledge of what is in other peoples' minds, how they are influence by media and so forth.

When you never asked even if they watch media before expressing such certainty.

Indeed, this level of certainty based on insufficient facts in a practical problem, which tells us that a person has errors in judgement.

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April 07, 2015, 05:29:11 PM
If it isn't true, this thread wouldn't exist.
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April 07, 2015, 05:08:28 PM
This is the truth and how you guys see us. Undecided

Actually, this is not true.  Most people in the US, at least in many areas know Muslims, have Muslim friends and associates and so forth.  Of course they are quite likely not your type of muslim.  Just like Jews here are often not very Jewish.

What I'm seeing in your attitudes is just a type of what we call religious fundamentalism.  And there are many varieties of it in the USA, because the country was founded when unwanted religions in Europe were forced out in this direction.

Amish, Jehovah's Witnesses, Latter Day Saints, Hari Krishnas, on and on.  Your version of Islam is not so different.  Certainly there is nothing special about it.
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April 07, 2015, 04:37:13 PM
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April 07, 2015, 01:23:53 PM
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If McDonald kills animals then they dont do it cause their owner is a Christian, but you do it cause you are a Muslim.

so whatever muslims does is bad anyway?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Yes. Basically whatever they do in the name of religion is bad(I am talking about immoral practices).

Well I don't want to believe that a religion can teach its followers to do bad things, but the acts done by the followers of the Islam make me believe so.
Statistically speaking, you are correct. Followers of Islam can actually be blamed for terrorism(I also blame Americans for that) and as followers of Islam are radical then there is no one but Islam itself to be blamed.
Stats show that neither Christians, Jews, Hindus etc etc are so radical as Islamists.
And there is a thing that I've observed, Muslims have a funda of increasing their population to at least 30% of a nation's population and then they all start what we have seen that they do.

Well, I understand how you think. You can't prove Qur'an and Hadiths are violent and also you can't prove all the terrorists are muslims. This is only a media FUD. I can even kill hudreds of them or make simple bombing and put a christian text or something and tell I am Christian. I can easily brainwash hundreds of kids and tell to do the same. Does this mean Christianity is violent?

 This is were your thinking is wrong. If there is violence in Qur'an and Hadiths, then okay Islam is violent. Only because medias tell there was bomb blast and it was muslims. How do they know it was muslims? Did they ask? Was it because they saw something which is related to Islam? Can't persons who hate do the same thing?

 If you still tell, "no no no..., they are muslims, I am sure", number of terrorists are less than 1/30 or 1/40 or more than that than the whole muslims. Yet you say Islam is violent and also I can show you many muslims, probably more than terrorists, who do great things to society. Yet you say, "Islam is violent".

 You should understand media is influencing you, not your real "thinking".
Well its not really all media FUD.
What about people like Akbaruddin Owaisi(don't tell you didn't listen to his speech, you did) who give hate speeches on the name of religion and hundreds of Muslims clap for him?
What about the Maulanas who stand in the middle of Delhi and proclaim that "He's a terrorist, Catch him if you can"?
What about the people who behead others and tell that their religion told them to do so? What about when you slaughter Goats on your festivals?
Are these the trait of a peace loving religion?
You can bomb a million and blame that a Christian did it. But that Christian will never accept that he did it and will never say that he did it for his religion.
But if you put a blame on a Muslim(first of all you don't need to , cause they themselves accept it), then most probably he'll accept that he did and will justify himself by saying that his religion told him to do so. That's where the differncw is between a Muslim and people following other religions. You yourself claim that you guys are bad, media doesn't need to spread FUD for it.
In this very thread is the proof of individuals believing in Islam advocating violence.  Look back in the pages, you will see Zakir himself defending the practice of stoning adulteresses, cutting off hands and feet of thieves as somehow "sanctioned by Islam."
People use Islam to advocate violence and so yes, indirectly it does advocate violence.
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April 07, 2015, 01:17:04 PM
More and more I am beginning to think that Stalin and Hitler and Mao and Pol pot and Hirohito, etc., were Islamites at heart. Genghis Khan certainly must have been.

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April 07, 2015, 01:12:01 PM

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What about when you slaughter Goats on your festivals?

should everybody become veggies? when mcdonald just do the mass killing of animals, its business. when muslim slaughter an animal in the less painful way possible((scientifically proven)) for food, its violence.


"Infidels" wasn't good enough for you. Now you are even calling people of other religions Goats.

Smiley

do you rea,lly understand english? i wonder now

Oh, sorry. I should have smiled  Cheesy  rather than this  Smiley
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April 07, 2015, 01:10:52 PM
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If McDonald kills animals then they dont do it cause their owner is a Christian, but you do it cause you are a Muslim.

so whatever muslims does is bad anyway?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Whatever anybody does is bad. There is only One Who is good. It is God alone Who is good.

The thing about Islamites is, they are informed Muslims. Muslims might do things that are good, because they are reasonably ignorant of Islamic ways. But Islamites who know Islamic ways much better, are the ones who do what is bad way more often. Why? They have been trained by Islam.

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April 07, 2015, 01:08:43 PM

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What about when you slaughter Goats on your festivals?

should everybody become veggies? when mcdonald just do the mass killing of animals, its business. when muslim slaughter an animal in the less painful way possible((scientifically proven)) for food, its violence.


"Infidels" wasn't good enough for you. Now you are even calling people of other religions Goats.

Smiley

do you rea,lly understand english? i wonder now
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April 07, 2015, 01:07:44 PM
i put an orange turban on my head and chant some gayatri mantras and behead someone, i am a hindu who is a terrorist.. right?

i put a cross around my neck and behead people, i am a christian who is a terrorist, right??

those people are just media based videos showing that, most of the did not really happen at all. and most of them are not from the teachings of the Quraan. individuals acting upon their own will and misguidance.

No, you are an Islamite in Hindu or Christian clothing (ever heard of wolf in sheep's clothing?) trying to get people to blame Hindus and Christians.

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because muslims were responsible for killing millions of jews and the barlay bombings, the crusades. of course
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April 07, 2015, 01:07:12 PM

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What about when you slaughter Goats on your festivals?

should everybody become veggies? when mcdonald just do the mass killing of animals, its business. when muslim slaughter an animal in the less painful way possible((scientifically proven)) for food, its violence.


"Infidels" wasn't good enough for you. Now you are even calling people of other religions Goats.

Smiley
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April 07, 2015, 01:04:13 PM
i put an orange turban on my head and chant some gayatri mantras and behead someone, i am a hindu who is a terrorist.. right?

i put a cross around my neck and behead people, i am a christian who is a terrorist, right??

those people are just media based videos showing that, most of the did not really happen at all. and most of them are not from the teachings of the Quraan. individuals acting upon their own will and misguidance.

No, you are an Islamite in Hindu or Christian clothing (ever heard of wolf in sheep's clothing?) trying to get people to blame Hindus and Christians.

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April 07, 2015, 10:59:05 AM
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If McDonald kills animals then they dont do it cause their owner is a Christian, but you do it cause you are a Muslim.

so whatever muslims does is bad anyway?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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April 07, 2015, 10:37:37 AM

Thank you for confirming that Allah is not God. Just because the word "Allah" is the Arab word for "God," when the word "Allah" or the word "God" are referring to Islam, they are not God.

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Hi BADecker Can you Please really explain to Me what is point in this post. I cant really Understand from your this post. What you actually want to post. i SAW No point in your Posts.

Well I don't want to believe that a religion can teach its followers to do bad things, but the acts done by the followers of the Islam make me believe so.
Statistically speaking, you are correct. Followers of Islam can actually be blamed for terrorism(I also blame Americans for that) and as followers of Islam are radical then there is no one but Islam itself to be blamed.
Stats show that neither Christians, Jews, Hindus etc etc are so radical as Islamists.
And there is a thing that I've observed, Muslims have a funda of increasing their population to at least 30% of a nation's population and then they all start what we have seen that they do.

Well, I understand how you think. You can't prove Qur'an and Hadiths are violent and also you can't prove all the terrorists are muslims. This is only a media FUD. I can even kill hudreds of them or make simple bombing and put a christian text or something and tell I am Christian. I can easily brainwash hundreds of kids and tell to do the same. Does this mean Christianity is violent?

 This is were your thinking is wrong. If there is violence in Qur'an and Hadiths, then okay Islam is violent. Only because medias tell there was bomb blast and it was muslims. How do they know it was muslims? Did they ask? Was it because they saw something which is related to Islam? Can't persons who hate do the same thing?

 If you still tell, "no no no..., they are muslims, I am sure", number of terrorists are less than 1/30 or 1/40 or more than that than the whole muslims. Yet you say Islam is violent and also I can show you many muslims, probably more than terrorists, who do great things to society. Yet you say, "Islam is violent".

 You should understand media is influencing you, not your real "thinking".

Yeah You are right MZ. Media ask from The dead person that from which religion you belongs to. And they said Im Muslim because I have beared. Really. Only Muslim have beared? If some one dont shave for a month or 2 I think He will have beared and you people will say him that he is a Muslim. ?
Watch this- http://pamelageller.com/2015/02/watch-islamic-state-video-of-pilot-being-burnt-alive-jordan-vows-revenge.html/
Did media create all this or were they hired by west?

Disclaimer: The above link contains violence.
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April 07, 2015, 10:33:15 AM
@thebitcoinquiz.com: To your previous post: If a few psychos said I am doing it for my religion and said I am muslim, then whole Islam violent? We eat goats, we don't throw them away. Besides, we are doing it for remembering Ibrahim aka Abraham(PBUH). There are many religions which sacrifices animals and throw them away. We aren't doing things like that. You didn't understand what I said about the drama, right? I was saying that I can brainwash people and also hire many people to bomb some places and tell them I am Christian and I am doing it for my religion. It is similar to what the psychos claims. And also, they are being brainwashed when they are children and they train them and when they mature give bombs and all tell them to hatred things. You think they are muslims just because they and medias say they are?

 As I have said earlier, this is were you have to change. Smiley
So all the people in the middle east have been hired by the west and are being asked to show themselves as Muslims? Your hypothetical talks don't prove anything, you can create those situations in your mind and not in real.

Edit: You cannot brainwash a Hindu and tell him that his religion asked it to kill people. Why do all the Muslims get brainwashed so easily?
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April 07, 2015, 10:29:44 AM
Well I don't want to believe that a religion can teach its followers to do bad things, but the acts done by the followers of the Islam make me believe so.
Statistically speaking, you are correct. Followers of Islam can actually be blamed for terrorism(I also blame Americans for that) and as followers of Islam are radical then there is no one but Islam itself to be blamed.
Stats show that neither Christians, Jews, Hindus etc etc are so radical as Islamists.
And there is a thing that I've observed, Muslims have a funda of increasing their population to at least 30% of a nation's population and then they all start what we have seen that they do.

Well, I understand how you think. You can't prove Qur'an and Hadiths are violent and also you can't prove all the terrorists are muslims. This is only a media FUD. I can even kill hudreds of them or make simple bombing and put a christian text or something and tell I am Christian. I can easily brainwash hundreds of kids and tell to do the same. Does this mean Christianity is violent?

 This is were your thinking is wrong. If there is violence in Qur'an and Hadiths, then okay Islam is violent. Only because medias tell there was bomb blast and it was muslims. How do they know it was muslims? Did they ask? Was it because they saw something which is related to Islam? Can't persons who hate do the same thing?

 If you still tell, "no no no..., they are muslims, I am sure", number of terrorists are less than 1/30 or 1/40 or more than that than the whole muslims. Yet you say Islam is violent and also I can show you many muslims, probably more than terrorists, who do great things to society. Yet you say, "Islam is violent".

 You should understand media is influencing you, not your real "thinking".
Well its not really all media FUD.
What about people like Akbaruddin Owaisi(don't tell you didn't listen to his speech, you did) who give hate speeches on the name of religion and hundreds of Muslims clap for him?
what about the Maulanas who stand in the middle of Delhi and proclaim that "He's a terrorist, Catch him if you can"?
What about the people who behead others and tell that their religion told them to do so? What about when you slaughter Goats on your festivals?
Are these the trait of a peace loving religion?
You can bomb a million and blame that a Christian did it. But that Christian will never accept that he did it and will never say that he did it for his religion.
But if you put a blame on a Muslim(first of all you don't need to , cause they themselves accept it), then most probably he'll accept that he did and will justify himself by saying that his religion told him to do so. That's where the differncw is between a Muslim and people following other religions. You yourself claim that you guys are bad, media doesn't need to spread FUD for it.


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What about people like Akbaruddin Owaisi(don't tell you didn't listen to his speech, you did) who give hate speeches on the name of religion and hundreds of Muslims clap for him?

obvious reasons, politics
http://www.ndtv.com/opinion/is-asaduddin-owaisi-re-inventing-himself-703307


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what about the Maulanas who stand in the middle of Delhi and proclaim that "He's a terrorist, Catch him if you can"?

hatred, common in all religion and atheism too.

edit : i forgot to reply to this one :

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What about the people who behead others and tell that their religion told them to do so?
i put an orange turban on my head and chant some gayatri mantras and behead someone, i am a hindu who is a terrorist.. right?

i put a cross around my neck and behead people, i am a christian who is a terrorist, right??

those people are just media based videos showing that, most of the did not really happen at all. and most of them are not from the teachings of the Quraan. individuals acting upon their own will and misguidance.


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What about when you slaughter Goats on your festivals?

should everybody become veggies? when mcdonald just do the mass killing of animals, its business. when muslim slaughter an animal in the less painful way possible((scientifically proven)) for food, its violence.

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Are these the trait of a peace loving religion?

you are taking the offence of a small group of people and blaming the religion for that. i can do the same with all religion and with atheisms too.

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You can bomb a million and blame that a Christian did it. But that Christian will never accept that he did it and will never say that he did it for his religion.
But if you put a blame on a Muslim(first of all you don't need to , cause they themselves accept it), then most probably he'll accept that he did and will justify himself by saying that his religion told him to do so.

when osama bin laden was said to be behind the attack of the 9/11 he riposted few days later denying the offence, and the tape is still at CNN's

when isreal put the blame on the muslims for the killing of 3 teenager and then israel responded by destroying and bombing palestine, the palestinians said its not them who did it.
people might say but isreal cannot kill their own people to wage a war.. well matter of fact, they can. govt conspiracy is common with usa and israel.. 9/11 itself was a conspiracy and i can give you thousands of quotes, videos, facts, scientific proofs that it was not the "arabs" who did it, not they were muslims. but pure US politics.
All I am saying is that if someone does something wrong then they dont act like a pussy and tell that their religion asked them to do so. If McDonald kills animals then they dont do it cause their owner is a Christian, but you do it cause you are a Muslim.
And all your hypothetical situations cannot prove anything, the chanting gyatri mantra people killing others is not something that we see, stop justifying yourself by stating hypothetical situations.

And it agree that owaisi did it for political reasons but what about those people, who were there present during his speech and were cheering him up? They weren't involved in all the politics, they just showed their hatred towards Hindus.
You guys are cowards and hide behind the religion.
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April 07, 2015, 10:24:36 AM
@thebitcoinquiz.com: To your previous post: If a few psychos said I am doing it for my religion and said I am muslim, then whole Islam violent? We eat goats, we don't throw them away. Besides, we are doing it for remembering Ibrahim aka Abraham(PBUH). There are many religions which sacrifices animals and throw them away. We aren't doing things like that. You didn't understand what I said about the drama, right? I was saying that I can brainwash people and also hire many people to bomb some places and tell them I am Christian and I am doing it for my religion. It is similar to what the psychos claims. And also, they are being brainwashed when they are children and they train them and when they mature give bombs and all tell them to hatred things. You think they are muslims just because they and medias say they are?

 As I have said earlier, this is were you have to change. Smiley
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