Why do islam hates people? - page 17.

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Quote from: degaga15 on August 25, 2017, 06:17:38 AM

Quote from: sukiho on August 25, 2017, 04:31:54 AM

because all religions are fake! All religions are made by human and they use it as tools to satisfied their needs. However it is good too to have religions, to give the people ways of life by choosing the religion.

Religion is not a human creation, but rather descended by a god through an angelic messenger. Special religions that created their god from their own works. Maybe you do not believe in a god for eating logic and not understanding that there is something that can not be seen.

Did the messenger told infidels to die... even before they had an opportunity to understand the message? I mean God is the creation itself. Time and space and everything in between is God. Everything that was created is God, one universe, multiple universes, doesn't matter. One would think the messenger of God, and his prophet would give humans a few years to find their way to get the message fully, not be killed at first sight by those who already 'got' the message...

...IMHO

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Quote from: sukiho on August 25, 2017, 04:31:54 AM

because all religions are fake! All religions are made by human and they use it as tools to satisfied their needs. However it is good too to have religions, to give the people ways of life by choosing the religion.

I think it is a good thing to have faith in a construct that is bigger than your own ego. It is a way to project what you defined as "you" beyond death and... before your birth.

If you need to read a book to learn how to be a better person, over and over, then you are not a true believer and your religion is meaningless.

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Quote from: sukiho on August 25, 2017, 04:31:54 AM

because all religions are fake! All religions are made by human and they use it as tools to satisfied their needs. However it is good too to have religions, to give the people ways of life by choosing the religion.

Religion is not a human creation, but rather descended by a god through an angelic messenger. Special religions that created their god from their own works. Maybe you do not believe in a god for eating logic and not understanding that there is something that can not be seen.

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Quote from: robbylove on August 24, 2017, 09:15:08 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on August 24, 2017, 04:27:57 PM

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Ex Muslims welcome!

https://www.theexmuslim.com/

https://www.theexmuslim.com/2017/04/25/saudi-arabia-ahmad-al-shamris-appeal-denied-sentenced-death-atheism/

Sad.

This is the real face of Islam. Once you get in, there is no way out. And this is exactly how Islam grew over the decades. In Saudi Arabia, tens of thousands of expat workers are forced to convert to Islam every year. But once converted, they are enslaved by the Islamic ideology for the rest of their lives.

No its not Saudi leaders are not Muslims they are from an extremely violent group called "wahhabi" their beliefs doesn't follow or sometimes even breaks the islamic ideology and rules , that's one of the reasons why Iran hates Saudi arabia so much they support many terrorist groups in Iran,Iraq and Syria.
And the people have no say in the matter because they have a monarchy with Saudi family in place they pay some amount to shut the people up from oil that they export, Iran and i think Lebanon tried to start a revolution many years ago in Saudi arabia so a government could take place but wasn't successful.

And one of the harsh truths about "Wahhabism" is the fact that their leaders declare rape and beheading of shia and sometimes sunni societies as an act of heroism and worthy of reward, that's mostly how they brainwash people into suicide bombing and shit.

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because all religions are fake! All religions are made by human and they use it as tools to satisfied their needs. However it is good too to have religions, to give the people ways of life by choosing the religion.

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Quote from: halker2010 on August 24, 2017, 08:12:56 PM

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Quote from: Douglasyukanov on August 24, 2017, 12:57:09 PM

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Islam only against a person or a group of other religions who attack and hurt the feelings of Muslims first, basically Muslims respect and share goodness with other religions than Islam.....

So the > 31,000 suicide bombers and atrocities by Muslims since 9/11 are because Muslims got their feelings hurt?

No matter what you do, one way or another you are going to hurt some peoples feelings.

Those people became "kafar" when they started to follow some organized cult with that level of violence killing someone no matter who he is, like that is never fine in any religion I state that those people aren't even human let alone muslim , muslims only contain of two main routes sunni and shia that's it, those who aren't in these routes aren't muslims even if they use islamic symbols or flags.

The whole reason Isis,Jundallah or Talleban formed is for the control of weak nations from inside ,We lost many scientists and generals at the hand of rigi leader of jundallah so we are hurt by terrorism ourselves and waste of a human life is heart wrenching with or without religion.

As a kafar I am most offended you include such people in my group.

Joking aside, please explain because I don't know these words or context of them "Rigi leader of jundallah".

Reading wikipedia, this is horrible...

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Quote from: robbylove on August 24, 2017, 09:15:08 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on August 24, 2017, 04:27:57 PM

Quote from: robbylove on August 24, 2017, 01:32:51 PM

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Ex Muslims welcome!

https://www.theexmuslim.com/

https://www.theexmuslim.com/2017/04/25/saudi-arabia-ahmad-al-shamris-appeal-denied-sentenced-death-atheism/

Sad.

This is the real face of Islam. Once you get in, there is no way out. And this is exactly how Islam grew over the decades. In Saudi Arabia, tens of thousands of expat workers are forced to convert to Islam every year. But once converted, they are enslaved by the Islamic ideology for the rest of their lives.

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Quote from: Spendulus on August 24, 2017, 04:27:57 PM

Quote from: robbylove on August 24, 2017, 01:32:51 PM

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Ex Muslims welcome!

https://www.theexmuslim.com/

https://www.theexmuslim.com/2017/04/25/saudi-arabia-ahmad-al-shamris-appeal-denied-sentenced-death-atheism/

Sad.

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Quote from: eagleman on August 24, 2017, 07:17:31 PM

There are so many of Muslim sellers here, they do sell variety of cellphone accessories and clothes as well. And if you are going to ask for the price of those accessories, you should be sure that you will buy it, why? or else they will call their gang muslims to torture you out and scare the pants of you.

Don't go to shady sellers then.

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Quote from: Spendulus on August 24, 2017, 04:24:17 PM

Quote from: Douglasyukanov on August 24, 2017, 12:57:09 PM

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Islam only against a person or a group of other religions who attack and hurt the feelings of Muslims first, basically Muslims respect and share goodness with other religions than Islam.....

So the > 31,000 suicide bombers and atrocities by Muslims since 9/11 are because Muslims got their feelings hurt?

No matter what you do, one way or another you are going to hurt some peoples feelings.

Those people became "kafar" when they started to follow some organized cult with that level of violence killing someone no matter who he is, like that is never fine in any religion I state that those people aren't even human let alone muslim , muslims only contain of two main routes sunni and shia that's it, those who aren't in these routes aren't muslims even if they use islamic symbols or flags.

The whole reason Isis,Jundallah or Talleban formed is for the control of weak nations from inside ,We lost many scientists and generals at the hand of rigi leader of jundallah so we are hurt by terrorism ourselves and waste of a human life is heart wrenching with or without religion.

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There are so many of Muslim sellers here, they do sell variety of cellphone accessories and clothes as well. And if you are going to ask for the price of those accessories, you should be sure that you will buy it, why? or else they will call their gang muslims to torture you out and scare the pants of you.

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Quote from: robbylove on August 24, 2017, 01:32:51 PM

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Ex Muslims welcome!

https://www.theexmuslim.com/

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Quote from: Douglasyukanov on August 24, 2017, 12:57:09 PM

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Islam only against a person or a group of other religions who attack and hurt the feelings of Muslims first, basically Muslims respect and share goodness with other religions than Islam.....

So the > 31,000 suicide bombers and atrocities by Muslims since 9/11 are because Muslims got their feelings hurt?

No matter what you do, one way or another you are going to hurt some peoples feelings.

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Quote from: Douglasyukanov on August 24, 2017, 12:57:09 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on December 10, 2014, 03:26:41 PM

I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate people? and you should really give a valid reason not a shitty one that says 'Because Jews, Because Christians, Because Atheists'
and Yes, I am a people's person for those who ask, just tell me, come out of your shell and say why you HATE people like myself, and I could be here to clarify things to you, or not...
Also here is something that most muslims mistake about people's person like me is that "Christianity or Buddhism hate other religions" for this I say, Christianity or Buddhism does not hate ANY religion, but they suggest to 'invite' them to Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism, as slowly, and peacefully, even if they refuse, you can try and try, until it's their choice, you stop. and for all the wars that happened, it's because this other religion decided to come into war on Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism.

If you need anything clarified, I may not be here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink

In other news ->

Islam does not teach to hate other people or religions other than Islam, Islam is a religion that teaches love and kindness just like any other religion.
Islam only against a person or a group of other religions who attack and hurt the feelings of Muslims first, basically Muslims respect and share goodness with other religions than Islam.
So it would be wise if you judge not for some Muslims who act badly to a person or a group, because the evil one is the person or the perpetrator not because of his religion. His religion certainly does not teach to behave badly.

How do you feel about muslims judging islam badly?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 24, 2017, 06:44:46 AM

Quote from: robbylove on August 23, 2017, 09:11:03 PM

Is it hard for a muslim to leave his religion behind?

Are you serious? It is not possible for a Muslim to abandon his religion or to convert to another one. Apostasy is a crime which is punishable by death in almost all of the Muslim nations. It is like the rules of the Mexican prison gangs. It is called blood in, blood out. The only way to join the gang is to kill or injure someone. And the only way is to leave the gang is to commit suicide.

It is a serious question in this discussion, for people reading this thread now, and not dealing with reading it from its inception. So yes I already knew the answer but the purpose was for an ex-muslim to tell his side of the answer based on his upbringing in his Iranian society. The bigger picture.

Lots of ex muslims who love Bitcoin can't openly admit they are ex muslims. Think about it: people from all religions and no beliefs at all are willing to share what they believe this thread is about. All the time.

Yet the ex muslims would rather not participate because, well, for obvious reason as stated. I would give the respect to reply if I see ex muslims express their opinion on the subject, if or when I see it.

Ex Muslims welcome!

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Quote from: Wilikon on December 10, 2014, 03:26:41 PM

I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate people? and you should really give a valid reason not a shitty one that says 'Because Jews, Because Christians, Because Atheists'
and Yes, I am a people's person for those who ask, just tell me, come out of your shell and say why you HATE people like myself, and I could be here to clarify things to you, or not...
Also here is something that most muslims mistake about people's person like me is that "Christianity or Buddhism hate other religions" for this I say, Christianity or Buddhism does not hate ANY religion, but they suggest to 'invite' them to Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism, as slowly, and peacefully, even if they refuse, you can try and try, until it's their choice, you stop. and for all the wars that happened, it's because this other religion decided to come into war on Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism.

If you need anything clarified, I may not be here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink

In other news ->

Islam does not teach to hate other people or religions other than Islam, Islam is a religion that teaches love and kindness just like any other religion.
Islam only against a person or a group of other religions who attack and hurt the feelings of Muslims first, basically Muslims respect and share goodness with other religions than Islam.
So it would be wise if you judge not for some Muslims who act badly to a person or a group, because the evil one is the person or the perpetrator not because of his religion. His religion certainly does not teach to behave badly.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 24, 2017, 06:44:46 AM

Quote from: robbylove on August 23, 2017, 09:11:03 PM

Is it hard for a muslim to leave his religion behind?

Are you serious? It is not possible for a Muslim to abandon his religion or to convert to another one. Apostasy is a crime which is punishable by death in almost all of the Muslim nations. It is like the rules of the Mexican prison gangs. It is called blood in, blood out. The only way to join the gang is to kill or injure someone. And the only way is to leave the gang is to commit suicide.

It's certainly possible for a Muslim to become a slacker, though.

That's the most common method of dealing with the irrationality and ridiculousness of any religion.

On the surface, it appears as just forgivable human weakness.

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Quote from: robbylove on August 23, 2017, 09:11:03 PM

Is it hard for a muslim to leave his religion behind?

Are you serious? It is not possible for a Muslim to abandon his religion or to convert to another one. Apostasy is a crime which is punishable by death in almost all of the Muslim nations. It is like the rules of the Mexican prison gangs. It is called blood in, blood out. The only way to join the gang is to kill or injure someone. And the only way is to leave the gang is to commit suicide.

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Quote from: halker2010 on August 23, 2017, 07:04:29 PM

As a Iranian who's been muslim for half of my life
Religions at their core aren't bad, they are created to be used as a manipulation tool to pervert anarchy and chaos by putting rules that supposedly some kinda of god created.

They become unstable when few sides beliefs collide therefore new age or modern age needs new rewritten religion by some none existent god.
Just like my country that uses Religion as an excuse to manipulation people to follow the dictatory of mr x and y because their leader chosen by god or make them follow some king or family because their blood is different or connected to prophet or something.

Is it hard for a muslim to leave his religion behind?

Wasn't for me although you cannot publicly announce it , its dangerous especially in iran or saudi arabia i think it doesn't apply if you are born muslim only if you changed religion or became one based on your own decision in islam leaving means you committed "ertedad" the punishment for it is death ,burning or exile.

many people do not agree to these punishments so most of them are lowered like no finger cutting or shit, most of crimes in iran are punished by jail unless they are intense or unforgivable like rape , murder , embezzlement of high amount of money and etc , so killing someone who leaves islam behind rejects the whole concept of islamic ideology that humans are even so if one is born with or without certain qualities and perks that can be used in society they cannot change them like family,race,religion and gender.

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Quote from: halker2010 on August 23, 2017, 07:04:29 PM

As a Iranian who's been muslim for half of my life
Religions at their core aren't bad, they are created to be used as a manipulation tool to pervert anarchy and chaos by putting rules that supposedly some kinda of god created.

They become unstable when few sides beliefs collide therefore new age or modern age needs new rewritten religion by some none existent god.
Just like my country that uses Religion as an excuse to manipulation people to follow the dictatory of mr x and y because their leader chosen by god or make them follow some king or family because their blood is different or connected to prophet or something.

Well said with one pretty funny typo.

"Perverting" anarchy and chaos

I think you meant

Preventing anarchy and chaos

holy shit i wish that was the case

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Quote from: halker2010 on August 23, 2017, 07:04:29 PM

As a Iranian who's been muslim for half of my life
Religions at their core aren't bad, they are created to be used as a manipulation tool to pervert anarchy and chaos by putting rules that supposedly some kinda of god created.

They become unstable when few sides beliefs collide therefore new age or modern age needs new rewritten religion by some none existent god.
Just like my country that uses Religion as an excuse to manipulation people to follow the dictatory of mr x and y because their leader chosen by god or make them follow some king or family because their blood is different or connected to prophet or something.

Well said with one pretty funny typo.

"Perverting" anarchy and chaos

I think you meant

Preventing anarchy and chaos

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