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Peace or Jihad? Abrogation (Naskh (tafsir)) in Islam



hat there is no compulsion in Islam and that Islam is a religion of peace are common refrains among Muslim activists,[1] academics,[2] officials,[3] and journalists.[4] In an age of terrorism and violent jihad, nowhere, they argue, does the Qur'an allow Muslims to fight non-Muslims solely because they refuse to become Muslim.[5] Proponents of Islamic tolerance point to a number of Qur'anic verses which admonish violence and advocate peace, tolerance, and compromise.[6]

But not all verses in the Qur'an have the same weight in assessment. Unlike the Old or New Testaments, the Qur'an is not organized by chronology but rather by size of chapters.[7] Even within chapters, chronology can be confused. In sura (chapter) 2, for example, God revealed verses 193, 216, and 217 to Muhammad shortly after he arrived in Medina. God only revealed verses 190, 191, and 192 six years later.[8] This complicates interpretation, all the more when some verses appear to contradict.


Abrogation in the Qur'an

The Qur'an is unique among sacred scriptures in accepting a doctrine of abrogation in which later pronouncements of the Prophet declare null and void his earlier pronouncements.[9] Four verses in the Qu'ran acknowledge or justify abrogation:


    When we cancel a message, or throw it into oblivion, we replace it with one better or one similar. Do you not know that God has power over all things?[10]

    When we replace a message with another, and God knows best what he reveals, they say: You have made it up. Yet, most of them do not know.[11]

    God abrogates or confirms whatsoever he will, for he has with him the Book of the Books.[12]

    If we pleased, we could take away what we have revealed to you. Then you will not find anyone to plead for it with us.[13]


Rather than explain away inconsistencies in passages regulating the Muslim community, many jurists acknowledge the differences but accept that latter verses trump earlier verses.[14] Most scholars divide the Qur'an into verses revealed by Muhammad in Mecca when his community of followers was weak and more inclined to compromise, and those revealed in Medina, where Muhammad's strength grew.

Classical scholars argued that anyone who studied the Qur'an without having mastered the doctrine of abrogation would be "deficient."[15] Those who do not accept abrogation fall outside the mainstream and, perhaps, even the religion itself. The Ahmadiyah sect, for example, today concentrated in Pakistan, consistently rejects abrogation because it undercuts the notion that the Qur'an is free from errors.[16] Many Muslims consider Ahmadis, who also see their founder as a prophet, to be apostates.


http://www.meforum.org/1754/peace-or-jihad-abrogation-in-islam

Once again you are having a wrong understanding about this whole issue. Why these people are committing all these evil acts? Please read the Quran and you will understand why these people are committing terrorism. If you want, I can quote those specific verses for you.

It is not the islam that hatesvthe people..
But it is the people who were bent by their wrong beliefs ...
Commitment to evil doings is a choice of those whove done it and not by their religion...

Mother and daughter in terror plot case ordered to lift veils by ...
www.telegraph.co.uk › News
11 May 2017 - A woman and her daughter charged in connection with what is thought to ... in relation to the alleged planning of a suspected knife attack in the ... Both Boular and Dich wore burkas - which cover the entirety of a woman's body .

Trio of women accused of being UK's first all-female terror group ...
https://firenewsfeed.com/incident/348717
1 day ago - THREE women accused of forming the UK's first all-female terror squad to carry out a knife rampage in Westminster appeared in court today. ... terror group appear in court accused of plotting knife attack ... to butcher bystanders in a plot they dubbed the Mad Hatter's Tea Party. .... Los Angeles Times..

Now the ISLAMIC women want to kill and stab us now ..

Ban the BURKA stab you up run around a corner take the burka off and then who done the crime
now ..

Very dangerous to let people walk around covered up ..
Stab you run away and take it off who done the crime  well you will never know they was covered up at the time so now point them out on a I.D parade  ..

BURKA must be BANNED..

BURKA BAN
BURKA BAN

Hide a machine gun up the burka walk in town and spray everyone ..

BAN BURKA ..

Hide big bombs under burka and blow everyone up in the shopping mall..

BAN BURKA..

Yeah, cops are crap, politic are crap, economy is crap,many things are expected to blow in those condition, and it's not really about Islam lol

Remember hollande had like 15% of popularity or something ..

There are radical group from all sides, ecologist, left wing, right wing, suburb ..

If macron dont do miracles there is going to be a mess ...

There are burning cars and stuff even in places there is no migrants. .


Get a clue of what France is today out of youtube and faux news ..

It's the country of the revolution  

Everyone become a terrorist

https://youtu.be/qkvDcLn0KD0

Among the Christians and people belonging to the other religions, I could say that there are a few bad apples. But can't say the same about the Muslims. Because the vast majority of the apples are rotten and damaged there.

The new normal in France...

I agree that today her Christians are very much eager to fight and are fighting even in foreign countries. But nonetheless Muslims do very bad things, and in these acts of terrorism there are a lot of peaceful people.

I can tell before there was the attack in bataclan, there was surely a huge tension in the suburb, nothing visible, but I had super bad feeling few day before, and everyone even the "gangsta" were super shocked lol it rised the level horror and violence one degree higher than usual, nobody really condone this stuff.

There was a guy who came to install optical fiber few days after, he was muslim I can tell the ambiance was super weird, he didn't say a word lol

It's so weird those attacks i tell you it's fishy as hell lol

Attacks against cop or police station, it's kinda common thing, with all the mess with the super crap police in those place, it's kinda usual thing the fight with police and stuff.

But suicide bombing like this in Paris for nothing at all, in concert place, killing only innocent, the big rampage like that, for no benefits, totally crazy. . Same with the nice truck attack ..

There is no benefits with this, no monetary gain, not even really clear revendication, leading to much more police, more house searching, more right on phone taping etc ..

Everyone know it's better to stay under the radar as much as possible to make money with some stuff or another, and staying away from police inquiry . . .

This plus the media all the time covering stuff, not saying the whole story, just very short head line blaming Islam radicalism, incoherencies all over the place, many fact not told etc etc

Sounds really weird stuff ..

Illegal migrants just want to make money and stay under the radar as much as possible. .

Sure. You pulled that out of your ass ? Lol

It´s in their blood dude nothing that we can do about it.

Truth #1 statstics based on ethnic or religion are illegal in france we dont have official statstics on this

Truth #2 90% of "muslim" in those area are not more muslim than you and me, they drink alcohol etc they dont give a shit about the coran

Truth #3 90% of "muslim" in those area are refugee from Algeria war, and actually fought Islamism in the side of France during Algeria war. They see radical Islam even more as a pest than most french or american who just know this from faux news.

Truth #4 lot of french are actually racist, there is always high degree of discrimination from police, job recruitment, lot of ressentment actually from both sides due to Algeria war and colonies problem.

There was violence in those place much before Islam started to become the thing after the 9/11 and faux news started to media bombing about Islam all day. Islam was never mentioned as the source of the problem before.

Most of the people involved in the bombing are not even muslim. The guy from nice, merah, etc, none of them were specially muslim. They eat porc, drink alcohol, go in clubs, they know very little about the coran actually. Each time they say "He radicalized alone in 3 weeks" after they are shot dead, end of the story.

Most of them involved in the attacks have history of psychiatry , criminality, familly problem, they are not part of organized muslim community, more associal criminal with psychiatric problem.

The connection with Islam is really very moot, and the problem exist for decades and it only started to become because of Islam after the 9/11.

France is also very atheistic country, and the cursor for considering someone as religious might be more sensitive in france than in any other country.

Media fabrication more than anything.

They hate...

They think they are better than other people...

Well, we already knew that.

I don't read or watch faux news, so your presumption there is as wrong as many of your ideas and prejudices.

But it was reported that the yearly 1000+ car burning occurred in lower income neighborhoods largely populated by Muslim immigrants, and at least one report is that most arrested for these crimes were (Muslim or "immigrant"), I forget which offhand.

You live there, your opinion?

Are you really this dreamy?! The Islam doesn't hate people, or non muslims, or... dude wth!

I'm a Christian by the way, but let me defend my religious brother with full fervor!

Muslims are great, humble, dedicated folk. Bad apples 🍎 exist in every slice of life, be it religious or not religious. Greedy wars are fought, countries exploited, in the name of democracy mind you. Try take on that idol!

Nothing to do with Islam then ..

More about brainwashed nut like you relaying usa war propaganda from faux news ..

Media Loses Interest in Houston Mosque Arson After Muslim Charged



HOUSTON, Texas—The Muslim charged with setting fire to his own mosque turned over his passport and the judge set his bond at $150,000 on Monday. He remains in jail.

True to a prediction by Breitbart News’ John Nolte, once authorities revealed the identity of the alleged arsonist as not a white racist inspired by Donald Trump but a Muslim, the mainstream media lost interest in the story.

Moore did not appear in court but was represented by his attorney Edward M. Chernoff. His arraignment where charges will be formally read against him has been reset upon the request of his lawyer. He will have an opportunity to enter a plea of guilty or not guilty at that time.

Gary Nathaniel Moore has been charged with arson in a place of worship, a first degree felony.

As reported by Breitbart Texas, the charging instrument stated that Moore started a fire by igniting materials at a place of worship on Christmas Day. The complaint charges that he used and exhibited a deadly weapon, namely a fire, to commit the felony offense of arson at the Savoy Masjid Mosque in Houston.

Moore told a Houston fire investigator that he has been a member of the mosque for five years, and comes to the mosque to pray five times a day, seven days a week, as reported by Breitbart Texas.

Breitbart News reported shortly after Moore’s arrest that the media immediately exploited the conflagration at the mosque to place the blame for the fire on Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. The theory quickly went up in smoke upon the devout Muslim’s arrest.

CBS, CNN, and NBC media outlets all published articles reporting the arson should be investigated because of the “recent spike in hate incidents targeting mosques nationwide.”

Breitbart News reported that a CBS News article said that advocacy groups believed “that there has been a spike in anti-Muslim incidents across the United States in recent weeks that can be linked to the mass shooting in California and the inflammatory rhetoric of Donald Trump and other presidential candidates. And they say that Muslims are fearful the backlash could lead to further harassment and violence.”

Salon.com also refused to change an extremely misleading headline that blamed the fire on “anti-Muslim violence,” even after the identity of the Muslim suspect became known, as reported by Breitbart News.

The prediction by Breitbart News’ John Nolte that “[n]ow that a devout Muslim has been charged, the DC Media will forget all about the incident” has become true. With the exception of the hometown paper, the Houston Chronicle, and a few other Texas media outlets, Moore’s latest court appearance has gone largely unreported.

Moore is scheduled to be back in court on January 20.


http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/01/05/media-loses-interest-houston-mosque-arson-muslim-charged/


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Car burning in france made him do it... 

Of course I did, as i said, I live in Paris suburb lol

I saw them many times, lived few km away from the riots started in 2005 ..

But there are many weird stuff with colonial past too, you probably heard that, and next to this, all rest seem isolated story..

And not sure what Islam has to do with car burning, you saw this on faux news too ? .. between two news as why usa need to do a drones war in the middle east, make sense now.

There were car burning in france at least since 90's, before usa needed to steal oil from middle east, nobody care de about it, and Islam was no even mentioned lol

Attempt to defeat an argument with isolated news stories?

Actually every year you have a virtual rampage in France with thousands of cars burned, don't you?

Not think, that all representatives of this religion hate people. Yes, among them many such, but and among other religions, too there are those, who hates who - that. I think that it all is stereotypes.