Why do islam hates people? - page 18.

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Quote from: halker2010 on August 23, 2017, 06:04:29 PM

As a Iranian who's been muslim for half of my life
Religions at their core aren't bad, they are created to be used as a manipulation tool to pervert anarchy and chaos by putting rules that supposedly some kinda of god created.

They become unstable when few sides beliefs collide therefore new age or modern age needs new rewritten religion by some none existent god.
Just like my country that uses Religion as an excuse to manipulation people to follow the dictatory of mr x and y because their leader chosen by god or make them follow some king or family because their blood is different or connected to prophet or something.

Is it hard for a muslim to leave his religion behind?

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As a Iranian who's been muslim for half of my life
Religions at their core aren't bad, they are created to be used as a manipulation tool to prevent anarchy and chaos by putting rules that supposedly some kinda of god created.

They become unstable when few sides beliefs collide therefore new age or modern age needs new rewritten religion by some none existent god.
Just like my country that uses Religion as an excuse to manipulate people to follow the dictatory of mr x and y because their leader was chosen by god or make them follow some king or family because their blood is different or connected to prophet or something.

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Quote from: MarconyGL on August 23, 2017, 07:20:35 AM

Islam does not hate people, some individual representatives very often show aggression towards other people. But among the Muslims there are a lot of kind, sympathetic people.

Some muslims became muslims by force. This thread is not about if all muslims are bad, rather why some muslims are afraid of their own religion. Go back in time in the thread, most of the victims of islam were muslims themselves. I don't know if the links I posted are still up or dead. It's been a long time, but that was the main purpose of it.

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Quote from: MarconyGL on August 23, 2017, 07:20:35 AM

Islam does not hate people, some individual representatives very often show aggression towards other people. But among the Muslims there are a lot of kind, sympathetic people.

So Muslims don't hate people unless they hate people.

Brilliant.

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Islam does not hate people, some individual representatives very often show aggression towards other people. But among the Muslims there are a lot of kind, sympathetic people.

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I don't think all Muslim hates people, There still other Muslim know how to deal or communicate with other Christian community. They know how to respect their neighbor instead still, Wink

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Quote from: Spendulus on August 22, 2017, 02:47:05 PM

Quote from: robbylove on August 22, 2017, 02:25:02 PM

We will not hate a party unless they trample on Islam.

Note that in his reply, Jack0234 addressed westerners.

He didn't specify that Muslim extremists "trample on Islam," or that they are the ones worthy of hate, as opposed to those who do something like draw cartoons.

How about that.

So maybe Muslim extremists are not considered to be "trampling on Islam."

Another phrase that can mean whatever you want it to, whenever you need it to. Something that means everything, means nothing.

The Muslims need to realize that their religion and their religious leaders are not above criticism. I have seen the Muslim preachers (especially guys such as Zakir Naik) denigrating my religion in the filthiest way possible. And at the same time, they go ballistic whenever someone has the courage to point out the hypocrisy within their religion.

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I don't think all Islam hates people, its not in religion, its depends on the people not only Islam do that ,sometimes if we don't like people we also hate them.

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Quote from: robbylove on August 22, 2017, 03:29:54 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on August 22, 2017, 02:47:05 PM

Quote from: robbylove on August 22, 2017, 02:25:02 PM

We will not hate a party unless they trample on Islam.

Note that in his reply, Jack0234 addressed westerners.

He didn't specify that Muslim extremists "trample on Islam," or that they are the ones worthy of hate, as opposed to those who do something like draw cartoons.

How about that.

So maybe Muslim extremists are not considered to be "trampling on Islam."

Another phrase that can mean whatever you want it to, whenever you need it to. Something that means everything, means nothing.

Maybe pointing this out could be hate speech against the religion of pieces... Beware UNLESS...

The title of this thread already includes hate speech against the religion of Islam.

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Quote from: Spendulus on August 22, 2017, 02:47:05 PM

Quote from: robbylove on August 22, 2017, 02:25:02 PM

We will not hate a party unless they trample on Islam.

Note that in his reply, Jack0234 addressed westerners.

He didn't specify that Muslim extremists "trample on Islam," or that they are the ones worthy of hate, as opposed to those who do something like draw cartoons.

How about that.

So maybe Muslim extremists are not considered to be "trampling on Islam."

Another phrase that can mean whatever you want it to, whenever you need it to. Something that means everything, means nothing.

Maybe pointing this out could be hate speech against the religion of pieces... Beware UNLESS...

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Quote from: robbylove on August 22, 2017, 02:25:02 PM

We will not hate a party unless they trample on Islam.

Note that in his reply, Jack0234 addressed westerners.

He didn't specify that Muslim extremists "trample on Islam," or that they are the ones worthy of hate, as opposed to those who do something like draw cartoons.

How about that.

So maybe Muslim extremists are not considered to be "trampling on Islam."

Another phrase that can mean whatever you want it to, whenever you need it to. Something that means everything, means nothing.

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We will not hate a party unless they trample on Islam.

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Quote from: Jacko234 on August 22, 2017, 01:28:02 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on December 10, 2014, 02:26:41 PM

I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate people? and you should really give a valid reason not a shitty one that says 'Because Jews, Because Christians, Because Atheists'
and Yes, I am a people's person for those who ask, just tell me, come out of your shell and say why you HATE people like myself, and I could be here to clarify things to you, or not...
Also here is something that most muslims mistake about people's person like me is that "Christianity or Buddhism hate other religions" for this I say, Christianity or Buddhism does not hate ANY religion, but they suggest to 'invite' them to Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism, as slowly, and peacefully, even if they refuse, you can try and try, until it's their choice, you stop. and for all the wars that happened, it's because this other religion decided to come into war on Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism.

If you need anything clarified, I may not be here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink

In other news ->

Islam does not teach me to hate another believer.
Because in the letter al kafirun described
"Say:" O you who disbelieve, (1) I will not worship what you worship. (2) And you are not the worshiper of the Rabb I worship. (3) And I have never been a worshiper of what you worship, (4) ) And you never (also) become a worshiper of the Rabb that I worship.(5) For you your religion, and for me, my religion ". (6) "(Surah Al Kafirun: 1-6)
We will not hate a party unless they trample on Islam.

I understand what you, a reasonable person, thinks of this verse. I also know that others consider any of a number of things "trampling on Islam" and want to impose their will through force, including through killing and murdering. And you know this is true also.

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I heard form many sources that Islam as most people perceive it is usually some kind of a sect, which employs distorts the Islamic ideas and values in a way that it employs a violent strategy

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Quote from: Wilikon on December 10, 2014, 02:26:41 PM

I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate people? and you should really give a valid reason not a shitty one that says 'Because Jews, Because Christians, Because Atheists'
and Yes, I am a people's person for those who ask, just tell me, come out of your shell and say why you HATE people like myself, and I could be here to clarify things to you, or not...
Also here is something that most muslims mistake about people's person like me is that "Christianity or Buddhism hate other religions" for this I say, Christianity or Buddhism does not hate ANY religion, but they suggest to 'invite' them to Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism, as slowly, and peacefully, even if they refuse, you can try and try, until it's their choice, you stop. and for all the wars that happened, it's because this other religion decided to come into war on Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism.

If you need anything clarified, I may not be here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink

In other news ->

Islam does not teach me to hate another believer.
Because in the letter al kafirun described
"Say:" O you who disbelieve, (1) I will not worship what you worship. (2) And you are not the worshiper of the Rabb I worship. (3) And I have never been a worshiper of what you worship, (4) ) And you never (also) become a worshiper of the Rabb that I worship.(5) For you your religion, and for me, my religion ". (6) "(Surah Al Kafirun: 1-6)
We will not hate a party unless they trample on Islam.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 17, 2017, 01:50:39 AM

Quote from: Andrianla on August 17, 2017, 12:58:58 AM

Islam does not hate people, you should learn more about Islam, we are taught not to do disgraceful actions to others, and respect each other

That's true! Islam does not hate people. I learned this from my professor way back in college. She's a muslim herself and she taught us things about their religion whenever there's a free time. There are really just Muslim people who wants their religion to be the dominant religion on this world that's why they tend to do bad things. But, I myself know a lot of Muslim people and they are really nice to me.

What you had posted is directly contradicted by the verses in the Quran, Hadiths and the other important Islamic texts. I can give you a few examples on how Islam teaches hatred against the non-Muslims. A few of the verses are here:

Quran 2:191

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And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter... and fight them until fitnah is no more, and religion is for Allah.

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But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

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Quote from: Andrianla on August 17, 2017, 12:58:58 AM

Islam does not hate people, you should learn more about Islam, we are taught not to do disgraceful actions to others, and respect each other

What you had posted is directly contradicted by the verses in the Quran, Hadiths and the other important Islamic texts. I can give you a few examples on how Islam teaches hatred against the non-Muslims. A few of the verses are here:

Quran 2:191

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And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter... and fight them until fitnah is no more, and religion is for Allah.

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But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

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Islam does not hate people, you should learn more about Islam, we are taught not to do disgraceful actions to others, and respect each other

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