Why do islam hates people? - page 96.

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Quote from: Spendulus on July 01, 2015, 09:21:38 PM

Quote from: GregH37 on July 01, 2015, 08:26:03 PM

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 208:
Narrated by Anas bin Malik
The people of Mecca asked Allah's Prophet (SAW) to show them a miracle. So He (SAW) showed them the moon split in two halves between which they saw the Hiram' mountain.
He also told me that this is confirmed in the Quran:

"The Hour has come near, and the moon has split [in two]." 54:1

Muhammad (SAW) split moon into two pieces....It is proved by Quran Please read the Above Verse.....Thank you

No, it is not proved by some words in an old book. US spacecraft has mapped the entire moon down to football size objects. There is no split of the moon into two pieces evident. The surface of the moon is a perfect record of the last billion years.

You are wrong.

Read the History Of Islam then come and talk that Moon splitted into two pieces or not ??
“The Last Hour draws near, and the moon is split asunder! And if they see a sign (miracle), they turn away and say, ‘Passing magic!’- for they are bent on giving it the lie, being always wont to follow their own desires.” (Quran 54:1-3)

http://www.answering-christianity.com/moon_split.htm

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Quote from: jorjito25 on July 01, 2015, 08:37:46 PM

There are some crazy people at this forum.

Islam is a religion and as such completely unable to hate, love or even believe in itself. I hope it is not needed but the same goes for Christianity.

Muslims are believers in islam. They can hate and love just as Christians are able to.

Hey dear i didn't get your point ?? Can you clear what you want you say ? im unable to understand your point ??

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on July 01, 2015, 06:37:11 AM

Quote from: Wilikon on June 30, 2015, 03:04:17 PM

[ size=15pt]Christian woman sentenced to death for 'drinking from Muslim water cup' in Pakistan may not live to face execution after five years' imprisonment has left her with intestinal bleeding[/size]

[ img]http://i.imgur.com/YqpFUhz.png[/img]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3144300/Christian-woman-sentenced-death-drinking-Muslim-water-cup-Pakistan-not-live-face-execution-five-years-imprisonment-left-intestinal-bleeding.html

A big lie. She was not sentenced to death or imprisoned for drinking from a Muslim's cup but for insulting prophet.
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Well, it's just a very small step from tolerating Islamic "justice," killing for so-called "insulting the profit," to a Muslim becoming a Muslim terrorist and going to another country where in his mind they "insult the prophet" and doing his little dirty deed.

I'm afraid you have just shown the violent nature of Islam, right there.

So let's dispense with the "peace and love" shit, okay?

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Quote from: GregH37 on July 01, 2015, 08:26:03 PM

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 208:
Narrated by Anas bin Malik
The people of Mecca asked Allah's Prophet (SAW) to show them a miracle. So He (SAW) showed them the moon split in two halves between which they saw the Hiram' mountain.
He also told me that this is confirmed in the Quran:

"The Hour has come near, and the moon has split [in two]." 54:1

Muhammad (SAW) split moon into two pieces....It is proved by Quran Please read the Above Verse.....Thank you

No, it is not proved by some words in an old book. US spacecraft has mapped the entire moon down to football size objects. There is no split of the moon into two pieces evident. The surface of the moon is a perfect record of the last billion years.

You are wrong.

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Quote from: CoinFoxs on July 01, 2015, 07:16:34 PM

If she insulted my Prophet (PBUH) then this is a big reason for me and killing is no wrong. Islam forbid us not to kill non muslims but when the non muslims attack you or insulted your Prophet (PBUH) then fight against them.

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There are some crazy people at this forum.

Islam is a religion and as such completely unable to hate, love or even believe in itself. I hope it is not needed but the same goes for Christianity.

Muslims are believers in islam. They can hate and love just as Christians are able to.

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Quote from: Spendulus on June 30, 2015, 07:42:23 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on June 30, 2015, 12:36:56 PM

Quote from: CoinFoxs on June 30, 2015, 12:24:45 PM

Quote from: Fullbuster on June 30, 2015, 12:00:03 PM

You guys are debating over Islam on web sources?
Why don't you learn Arabic and go read the Qur-an?

Im ready to debate on the basis of Quran but he is non muslim and he dont know a single word about Quran. If he know then he didnt debate here..
And if He happy with debate on the basis of internet sources.. Im still there...

"... Debate here" as you say is my house. I welcome you to debate on the thread I have created...

Cool

I am ready to debate the question "Did Mohammed split the Moon?" and willing to take the position "This is a myth, it did not happen."

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Quote from: Wilikon on June 30, 2015, 12:34:04 PM

Quote from: cryptodevil on June 30, 2015, 11:59:47 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on June 30, 2015, 10:10:48 AM

Islam has based its teachings on the irrefutable basis that all human beings are not equal as far as their physical attributes are concerned,

So why doesn't it base the value of human beings to perform certain tasks on their actual ability to perform certain tasks and not, as it does, on their gender?

There are women who are stronger and fitter than many men.

There are men who are better a being a parent than many women.

. . .and so on.

Gender is not a measure of capabilities outside those that are biologically obvious, so why create sociofamilial rules which are based primarily on gender?

Why is there a need to have men and women equal? Is equality between men and women a stigma for society or something else?

In your religion men and womens are equal??? If yes then give me one quote from your holy book . IF you have a Book and you believe on the Book.
Womens witness is less power beacuse women are not so much sensible.

There is no need to quote from a Book to defend this basic question. In fact that is a wrong approach, for you to pose the issue based on what "your book" says, asking others to defend the opposite position, based on what "their book" says.

Remember, this is a forum with world wide participants, with many, many different viewpoints. For example, I defend a position from first premises. Others do it from science, medical or historical views. And yes, still others will use their favorite Book.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 208:
Narrated by Anas bin Malik
The people of Mecca asked Allah's Prophet (SAW) to show them a miracle. So He (SAW) showed them the moon split in two halves between which they saw the Hiram' mountain.
He also told me that this is confirmed in the Quran:

"The Hour has come near, and the moon has split [in two]." 54:1

Muhammad (SAW) split moon into two pieces....It is proved by Quran Please read the Above Verse.....Thank you

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Quote from: Wilikon on July 01, 2015, 07:35:48 PM

I believe men and women are equal when facing the laws and all opportunities in life.

Got my point?

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I got your point but you didn't got my point Tongue

Lol
Mens and womens are equal Whoever does righteous acts, whether male or female, while he is a believer, verily, to him We will give a good life, and We shall pay them certainly a reward in proportion to the best of what they used to do.)

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I believe men and women are equal when facing the laws and all opportunities in life.

Got my point?

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Quote from: Wilikon on July 01, 2015, 07:04:07 PM

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Quote from: CoinFoxs on June 30, 2015, 12:41:14 PM

Quote from: Wilikon on June 30, 2015, 12:34:04 PM

Quote from: cryptodevil on June 30, 2015, 11:59:47 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on June 30, 2015, 10:10:48 AM

Islam has based its teachings on the irrefutable basis that all human beings are not equal as far as their physical attributes are concerned,

So why doesn't it base the value of human beings to perform certain tasks on their actual ability to perform certain tasks and not, as it does, on their gender?

There are women who are stronger and fitter than many men.

There are men who are better a being a parent than many women.

. . .and so on.

Gender is not a measure of capabilities outside those that are biologically obvious, so why create sociofamilial rules which are based primarily on gender?

Why is there a need to have men and women equal? Is equality between men and women a stigma for society or something else?

In your religion men and womens are equal??? If yes then give me one quote from your holy book . IF you have a Book and you believe on the Book.

Womens witness is less power beacuse women are not so much sensible.

"Sensible". Does that mean what they experience as LIFE is not the same as men? They cannot taste the same fruit as men do? They cannot smell the same flower as men do? They cannot appreciate the sound of a river when it flows down to a gentle cascade as men do?

Sensible means that womens are not strong as man.It doesnot mean that womens have less right then man. I just told that womens are not strong in making decision and in other cases as man. IF you got my point then i ll be thankful

If you are a female soldier, or a woman working on a oil rig in the northern sea... I understand the concept of physical differences between a man and a woman. I do not understand how there is a difference between a man and a woman as far as understanding a contract, writing a contract, witnessing a crime... But you say a woman has some kind of a "sensible" gene that keeps her from being equal to a man regarding paperwork...

Wow great !! Salute to your thinking where you want mens are superior then women as you said in above statement where i said then you have a problem..Clap for you !! Tongue

You accept or not there are difference between men and women. men are physically and mentally strong then womens..It doesnot mean womens have no mind or all that.

Is there any hope for you that a woman, any woman can be as strong mentally as a man?

I thought that christian woman (I posted earlier) has a pretty strong will. Still alive. I can't even imagine the kind of abuse she has been through. She is bleeding. Slowly dying.

In her mind at least, she is still standing...

Yes obviously Yes but we are talking about general..Don't you think mens are stronger then women ??
I condemn that women, If this news is true then this is condemnable and this is wrong and against Islam. Islam doesn't allow to kill non Muslims for no reason.

And this is the problem right there. Imam bruce lee said that article was wrong because she was not going to be killed because of a cup of water but because she insulted your prophet. So it is wrong to kill because of a cup of water but it right IF the story of that insult is real. People used to accused women of being witches and be burned alive with no proofs. It took a long time but people realized there must be a better way to find what is true and what is not.

She is a woman. Already the value of her speech is not as valuable, sensible as a man (that is not my position). How many people saw her do it?

she is a christian. Well... No hope.

Regarding burma, I've read what you said and my answer to you was that this pakistani christian woman cannot be held responsible for all the crimes committed in the world against muslims, including by other religions than hers.

If she insulted my Prophet (PBUH) then this is a big reason for me and killing is no wrong. Islam forbid us not to kill non muslims but when the non muslims attack you or insulted your Prophet (PBUH) then fight against them.
You didn't get my point. You relate christian women case with Burma's Muslim killing. But i want you to know that muslims are also humans. If you raise voice for killing of one women then you must raise voice for thousands of muslims killing in burma. It doen't matter they are muslims.
Got my point ??