Topic: Why do islam hates people? - page 99. (Read 437405 times)

First of all, the recent movie does not accurate depict a lot of the story, and some things are blatantly wrong.  But the full story is readily available.  You entirely miss my point.  My point is not at all related to Turing and "human rights", either then or now, or of now viewing then in retrospect.  Rather, the point is the interest of a culture in encouraging brilliant work from whomever it may come from, instead of harshly suppressing it.  Right away that would subtract more than 50%, say 60% by the time you add up all the total oddballs, gays, infidels and such.  That's quite obviously going to hold that culture back.   Probably way, way, way back.

Turing did contribute, and was appreciated greatly for his work.

What does a judeo-christian/atheist world culture have in common with the concept of honor killings? (post #2)

Your case-in-point about why our culture was superior to an Islamic one was about a guy who, granted, was not murdered for who he was. He was merely threatened with prosecution and jail, or allowed to avoid jail by "voluntary" chemical castration.

This does not showcase moral superiority. It shows more in common with the society you criticize than a differentiation of it.

What a fine way to reward a war hero. 'Hey, at least we didn't kill you!'

Why do islam hates people?
 because islam hate there own wifes .... they keep throwing dust sheets over there heads
so if they hate there wifes they hate anyone

Why you are laughing dear. In ramadan fasting is mandatory on believers not you. Why you shocked after reading this ?? This is Islam keep it in your mind !!

http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/how-do-you-fast-for-ramzan-when-theres-neither-dawn-nor-dusk-494029

In Rovaniemi, a northern Finland town that straddles the Arctic Circle, the sun rises around 3:20 a.m. and sets about 11:20pm. That means Muslims who observe Ramadan could be required to go without food or drink for 20 hours.

In a few years, Ramadan will begin even closer to the summer solstice in late June, when the sun doesn't set at all.

"We have to use common sense," said Mahmoud Said, 27, who came to Finnish Lapland from Kenya three years ago.

To Said, that means following the fasting hours of the nearest Muslim country: Turkey.

"It involves 14 or 15 hours of fasting which is okay, it's not bad," said Mr Said, who works for a non-governmental organization helping immigrants settle in the area. He estimates there are a little over 100 Muslims in Rovaniemi, mainly from Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan.

There is no unanimity on how to deal with the issue, which is becoming more pressing as more Muslim immigrants find their way to sparsely inhabited areas near the Arctic.

In Alaska, the Islamic Community Center of Anchorage, "after consultation with scholars," advises Muslims to follow the fasting hours of Mecca, Islam's holiest city.

The Dublin-based European Council for Fatwa and Research, however, said Muslims need to follow the local sunrise and sunset, even up north.

"The debate on how to do this in the north has been on going on for a few years," said Omar Mustafa, the chairman of the Islamic Association of Sweden. "We fast according to the sun.

As long as it is possible to tell dusk from dawn. This applies to 90 per cent of Sweden's Muslims."

The few Muslims who live so far north that they are awash in 24-hour daylight should follow the daylight hours the closest city in Sweden where you can tell dawn from dusk, he said, noting that it's permitted to break the fast for health reasons.

Visit the above site for detail..?

LOL

We follow Muhammad's SAW rule and we have to follow Muhammad's SAW rule. Islam is not the religion of strickness.
Question –  I live in a place where there is polar night. We have daylight now for 22 hours and the sun barely sets, so there is no distinction between day and night, because obviously the nights are like days. Some people fast 22 hours and they have only 2 hours before suhoor. How should people deal with this?

Answer

Fasting during Ramadan is mandatory on believers, and if one does not fall into the exceptions given in the Qur’an (sickness, travel or hardship), then he or she must keep their fasts during Ramadan.

“..prescribed for you is the Fast..” (2:183), “

“..and that ye fast is better for you..” (2:184)

“..And whosoever of you is present, let him fast the month..” (2:185)

The above statements are clear that fasting is mandatory, however if one finds fasting very difficult, then according to Qur’an, such a person also has the option of ransoming the fast by feeding a poor person.

“..And upon those who are able [to fast, but with hardship] – a ransom [as substitute] of feeding a poor person [each day]…” (2:184)

If a person has the ability to keep a fast for a long period then he should fast, however if he feels hardship in this and is unable to fast for such a long period then the rule of “fidya” of feeding the “miskeen” applies to him.

So it is up-to an individual to judge his own situation and see which rule is workable. God has given options in the Qur’an, and the one relevant to the person’s individual situation should be selected. If one is unable to fast due to hardship, then for each fast missed, the equivalent days food should be given to a “Miskeen” or indigent person. That food should be of same value that one consumes according to his or her own status (Reference 5:89). The above will apply in those geographical locations where sunset and sunrise are distinguishable in twenty four hours.

http://kashifshahzada.com/2015/02/15/fasting-during-polar-night/

Where did you get that? Verse 4:29 does not prohibit crossing oceans even in uncertainty but it does prohibit suicide.

“O ye who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves in vanities: But let there be amongst you Traffic and trade by mutual good-will: Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: for verily Allah hath been to you Most Merciful!”


I have clearly *separated* Arctic and countries where dawn and sunset are not clearly distinguishable.

Dusk and dawn are clearly distinguishable in the Arctic.

No ducking and dodging please.

You have two choices -

You would break Mohammed's rule.

Or you would obey his rule and starve.

We already had an answer when in space... Or (not) going to Mars (until it is safe to do so after a bunch of infidel morons risk their lives to do so...)

Prohibition
In February 2014 the General Authority of Islamic Affairs and Endowment (GAIAE) issued a fatwa forbidding devout Muslims from participating as crew members in Mars One's proposed one way mission to Mars. Speaking for the clerical group, Dr Farooq Hamada explained that, "Protecting life against all possible dangers and keeping it safe is an issue agreed upon by all religions and is clearly stipulated in verse 4/29 of the Holy Quran: Do not kill yourselves or one another. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful."

[...]
Muslims aboard the International Space Station (ISS) struggled with fulfilling their religious obligations including kneeling and facing Mecca to pray in microgravity traveling at several kilometres per second. The issue first came up when Sultan bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, a Saudi prince, flew aboard STS-51-G and again when Anousheh Ansari flew as a tourist to the International space station. In preparation for Malaysia's Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor trip to the ISS in 2007, the National Fatwa Council created "Muslim Obligations in the International Space Station" outlining permissible modifications to rituals such as kneeling when praying (not required in space), facing Mecca when praying (left to the astronaut's best abilities at the start of prayer), and washing (a wet towel will suffice)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_space


Wasn't crossing whole oceans back in the days haram when you did not know if you could make it?  "Protecting life against all possible dangers and keeping it safe is an issue agreed upon by all religions and is clearly stipulated in verse 4/29 of the Holy Quran

I asked what would you do.

In arctic regions
The sun shines low in the sky just after midnight over a frozen coastline near the Norwegian Arctic town of Longyearbyen on April 26, 2007. (Francois Lenoir/Reuters)
This week, with the start of Ramadan, Muslims from Indonesia to Michigan began fasting from sunrise to sunset in observance of one of the religions' primary holidays. But what happens in places where the sun never sets because the country is too far north? For many, this particular dilemma is a relatively new one, only apparent over the last two years. Since the month of Ramadan is pegged to the lunar calendar, it rotates on a yearly basis. The last time the holiday fell this deep into the summer months was nearly three decades ago in the mid 1980s, a time when few Muslim communities could be found above the Arctic Circle. But with Muslims from Somalia, Iraq, and Pakistan -- to name a few places -- increasingly immigrating to countries like Sweden, Norway, and Finland, the ethical dilemma posed for them by the endless summer days has become very real.

Muslims in countries like Arctic and countries where dawn and dusk are not clearly distinguishable have to define the times of prayer in that land, basing those times on the closest country in which the night and day can be distinguished from one another and the times of the five daily prayers are known according to the signs described in sharee’ah, within each twenty-four hour period.

Similarly they also have to fast Ramadaan. They can set the time for their fast and determine the beginning and end of Ramadaan and the times of starting and breaking the fast each day by the dawn and sunset each day in the closest country in which night can be distinguished from day. The total period must add up to twenty-four hours, because of the hadeeth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about the Dajjaal mentioned above, in which he told his companions how to determine the times of the five daily prayers. There is no difference in this regard between fasting and prayer.

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What would you do in the Arctic?  Would you fast from dawn to dusk?

Yes or no please.

1. They were killing Muslims and that is honour killing?

2. It wasn't a honour killing rather a revenge. It is honor killing in a sense but people misunderstand this in a different way.

Aisha told authorities the killings stemmed from her mother's first marriage nearly 30 years ago to another man, Aslam said.

police officer, Mian Mohammad, said Ghulam Fatima's son from her first marriage visited the family a few days ago. He was joined on Tuesday by three more men, who the police say helped him with the crime.
The surviving daughter told authorities that the son said he was taking revenge on her for leaving her first husband.

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