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legendary
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August 12, 2015, 06:07:24 AM
Well to be honest I think that's the hope of a short term win.
Of course you can't win in the long run, but you can get lucky and win in a few sessions. So when someone is playing dice it's for the hope of winning on that day/session, I don't think they are even considering their previous sessions.
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August 12, 2015, 06:04:26 AM
I thought i read on this forum that some people has already rolled 30 rolls on just dice and even a little bit more, i guess dooglus is talking about getting 30 in a row a few times which is indeed weird but it could happen tho.

Yup dooglus once posted that there was a 32 loss streak on JD with 49.5% bets, but now Dooglus is offering 1 BTC for 30 loss streak for 50% bets.
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August 12, 2015, 05:59:38 AM
well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale

You don't. Nobody ever rolled 30 losses in a row at 50% at Just-Dice. If you can provide a legit screenshot of it happening even once (edit: at Just-Dice) I will send you 1 BTC or 80 CLAMs, your choice.

I won't reply to the rest of your post, because it has already all been expertly refuted by others.

If you are regularly seeing losing streaks of length 30 at 50% on any site, let me know. That would seriously need looking into since it should only happen about once per BILLION rolls.
maybe clarify weather or not it  has to be on martingale settings (low only or high only) instead of manual betting? i feel like people would actively try to manual bet their way to 30 losses in a row just for the 1 btc/80 CLAMs.

I thought i read on this forum that some people has already rolled 30 rolls on just dice and even a little bit more, i guess dooglus is talking about getting 30 in a row a few times which is indeed weird but it could happen tho.
legendary
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August 12, 2015, 02:47:43 AM
well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale

You don't. Nobody ever rolled 30 losses in a row at 50% at Just-Dice. If you can provide a legit screenshot of it happening even once (edit: at Just-Dice) I will send you 1 BTC or 80 CLAMs, your choice.

I won't reply to the rest of your post, because it has already all been expertly refuted by others.

If you are regularly seeing losing streaks of length 30 at 50% on any site, let me know. That would seriously need looking into since it should only happen about once per BILLION rolls.
maybe clarify weather or not it  has to be on martingale settings (low only or high only) instead of manual betting? i feel like people would actively try to manual bet their way to 30 losses in a row just for the 1 btc/80 CLAMs.
legendary
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August 12, 2015, 02:29:20 AM
well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale

You don't. Nobody ever rolled 30 losses in a row at 50% at Just-Dice. If you can provide a legit screenshot of it happening even once (edit: at Just-Dice) I will send you 1 BTC or 80 CLAMs, your choice.

I won't reply to the rest of your post, because it has already all been expertly refuted by others.

If you are regularly seeing losing streaks of length 30 at 50% on any site, let me know. That would seriously need looking into since it should only happen about once per BILLION rolls.
legendary
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August 12, 2015, 02:13:25 AM
It seems like every dice site says 'provably fair' when in reality the dice are rigged...50/50 odds shouldn't be so imbalanced lol

Yes when you consider 100 rolls its about 50/50 but when you consider 10,000 or 100,000 rolls its very easy to get into a 20-30 loss losing streak. And many seem to be calling the sites cheaters but its all about probability.
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August 12, 2015, 01:36:35 AM
I agree with people here, 'Fast'. People nowdays wanna do something fast like gambling, but the risk is to big for that. That's why me gambling at dice only for fun, not using bankroll. Better gambling on sportsbook for more fair.
legendary
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August 11, 2015, 09:20:00 PM
dice i make some money from that and sometime lose for dice  Tongue
but never can leave from gambling or dice xD
-AFK

you must leave gambling if you want to earning money

dice = only game for fun
hero member
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August 11, 2015, 07:50:13 PM
It seems like every dice site says 'provably fair' when in reality the dice are rigged...50/50 odds shouldn't be so imbalanced lol

Think about it, If players keep on winning they wouldn't be around for so long besides if you have played in a real casino, pretty much you have the same odds in a online dice or casino site.
legendary
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August 11, 2015, 06:41:03 PM
It seems like every dice site says 'provably fair' when in reality the dice are rigged...50/50 odds shouldn't be so imbalanced lol

You are pretty much wrong on this, provably fair doesnt mean that the site could not be rigged but provably fair is making the site harder to be able to cheat because if they are attempting to do so then someone could notice it.
Apart from that, you got another wrong statement there, it is actually not imbalanced but the house edge is applied to these games which ensure the house would get profit in a long run so it is kinda "rigged" in a good manner which is pretty common
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August 11, 2015, 06:32:46 PM
It seems like every dice site says 'provably fair' when in reality the dice are rigged...50/50 odds shouldn't be so imbalanced lol
legendary
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August 11, 2015, 06:22:02 PM
no luck

In a matter of fact, dice is all about luck . There is nothing much you can do except totally "hope for the best" that you might get yourself lucky

because the numbers get tampered

Totally wrong unless you play in a non-provably fair site or a rigged site like 999dice. Every dice sites that have provably fair wont tamper your bet result because players could check it easily and if someone finds out that the site is rigged than they are destroying their own reputation ( like what dicebitcoin did ). If you totally think your bet was tampered than simply prove it and present the proof in public therefore you can easily destroy their reputation, otherwise you are just being unlucky .

the only thing from which u can make money is 'short term variance' that is like investing and making 10 % in under 50 rolls

Variance is also about probability as you can always lose more than 10 % in under 50 rolls or so

in this way u can profit before the system gets u and as far as legends r concerned u r right they r legends because they start gambling with a ton load of BTC.. so there 20% is like 30 coins..

False and this is a total fallacy nothing more. Im not sure where do you play dice at but this is nonsense because it is not always a guarantee that you will win early in the games
well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale and never got more than 10 reds while manually playing any other multiplier ??
Plus u have a better chance to win in the starting rolls because it takes time for the algorithm to understand the sequence ur playing and eventually u end up in a sequence which dosent suites your gambling strategy ..and dude u clearly dont understand how the numbers r tampered ,u can never catch if the numbers r tampered or not because the random numbers that is chosen generally on all dice sites are done by their algorithm or by their designed system not by yours and u cant fight why this is chosen and not that, so u get the same results as they get but the number was not really a RANDOM
when u martingale there is a very less chance to get busted in the beginning rolls but there is a 100000% chance that u get busted as soon as the rolls increase because eventually u end up in a sequence that dosent suite ur method etc.. and plus this is all maths and probabilities everything is approx..and  i never gave anyone a guarantee loll... RELAX .

Of course there is a less chance to bust on the begining rolls, there is in fact no chance if you need 20 loses to bust and you are only rolling 10, whats your point?
my point is if u just dont get greedy and cashout earlier, like 20 % profits then u have a chance to make profits

I dont see how cashing out early would give you profit, you can only get profit if you are ahead and stop FOREVER, quitting early just to play later makes you lose in the end

I think he means to just take your profits when you see them and don't look back instead of gambling and gambling and losing all your earnings and account balance.
legendary
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August 11, 2015, 06:18:17 PM

Im not literally "the man" and my purposes to counter your argument would be to tell you the truth about it. When I was getting into BTC at the first time, I gambled in freebitco.in as well and thought that the site must be rigged because I keep on losing .

Things changed after I learn what is it mean to play in a provably fair sites and how to verify my own bet and ever since that I have no issue with thinking that the site is rigged anymore if I can verify it my own. Therefore Im always being skeptical when I see someone stating that XYZ dice site is rigged because I got a "lost streak". Kinda funny to see someone blame a site whenever they have a huge lost streak while in fact that no one ever complain when they got a winning streak

I dont see how cashing out early would give you profit

Variance play its part and it is just another superstition. Some people believe that if he doesnt chase his loses and only wager no less than few times would grant him profit. It could be true if variances play its part well or that it could make someone lose more


hero member
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August 11, 2015, 12:25:50 PM
no luck

In a matter of fact, dice is all about luck . There is nothing much you can do except totally "hope for the best" that you might get yourself lucky

because the numbers get tampered

Totally wrong unless you play in a non-provably fair site or a rigged site like 999dice. Every dice sites that have provably fair wont tamper your bet result because players could check it easily and if someone finds out that the site is rigged than they are destroying their own reputation ( like what dicebitcoin did ). If you totally think your bet was tampered than simply prove it and present the proof in public therefore you can easily destroy their reputation, otherwise you are just being unlucky .

the only thing from which u can make money is 'short term variance' that is like investing and making 10 % in under 50 rolls

Variance is also about probability as you can always lose more than 10 % in under 50 rolls or so

in this way u can profit before the system gets u and as far as legends r concerned u r right they r legends because they start gambling with a ton load of BTC.. so there 20% is like 30 coins..

False and this is a total fallacy nothing more. Im not sure where do you play dice at but this is nonsense because it is not always a guarantee that you will win early in the games
well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale and never got more than 10 reds while manually playing any other multiplier ??
Plus u have a better chance to win in the starting rolls because it takes time for the algorithm to understand the sequence ur playing and eventually u end up in a sequence which dosent suites your gambling strategy ..and dude u clearly dont understand how the numbers r tampered ,u can never catch if the numbers r tampered or not because the random numbers that is chosen generally on all dice sites are done by their algorithm or by their designed system not by yours and u cant fight why this is chosen and not that, so u get the same results as they get but the number was not really a RANDOM
when u martingale there is a very less chance to get busted in the beginning rolls but there is a 100000% chance that u get busted as soon as the rolls increase because eventually u end up in a sequence that dosent suite ur method etc.. and plus this is all maths and probabilities everything is approx..and  i never gave anyone a guarantee loll... RELAX .

Of course there is a less chance to bust on the begining rolls, there is in fact no chance if you need 20 loses to bust and you are only rolling 10, whats your point?
my point is if u just dont get greedy and cashout earlier, like 20 % profits then u have a chance to make profits

I dont see how cashing out early would give you profit, you can only get profit if you are ahead and stop FOREVER, quitting early just to play later makes you lose in the end
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August 11, 2015, 11:10:12 AM
no luck

In a matter of fact, dice is all about luck . There is nothing much you can do except totally "hope for the best" that you might get yourself lucky

because the numbers get tampered

Totally wrong unless you play in a non-provably fair site or a rigged site like 999dice. Every dice sites that have provably fair wont tamper your bet result because players could check it easily and if someone finds out that the site is rigged than they are destroying their own reputation ( like what dicebitcoin did ). If you totally think your bet was tampered than simply prove it and present the proof in public therefore you can easily destroy their reputation, otherwise you are just being unlucky .

the only thing from which u can make money is 'short term variance' that is like investing and making 10 % in under 50 rolls

Variance is also about probability as you can always lose more than 10 % in under 50 rolls or so

in this way u can profit before the system gets u and as far as legends r concerned u r right they r legends because they start gambling with a ton load of BTC.. so there 20% is like 30 coins..

False and this is a total fallacy nothing more. Im not sure where do you play dice at but this is nonsense because it is not always a guarantee that you will win early in the games
well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale and never got more than 10 reds while manually playing any other multiplier ??
Plus u have a better chance to win in the starting rolls because it takes time for the algorithm to understand the sequence ur playing and eventually u end up in a sequence which dosent suites your gambling strategy ..and dude u clearly dont understand how the numbers r tampered ,u can never catch if the numbers r tampered or not because the random numbers that is chosen generally on all dice sites are done by their algorithm or by their designed system not by yours and u cant fight why this is chosen and not that, so u get the same results as they get but the number was not really a RANDOM
when u martingale there is a very less chance to get busted in the beginning rolls but there is a 100000% chance that u get busted as soon as the rolls increase because eventually u end up in a sequence that dosent suite ur method etc.. and plus this is all maths and probabilities everything is approx..and  i never gave anyone a guarantee loll... RELAX .

Of course there is a less chance to bust on the begining rolls, there is in fact no chance if you need 20 loses to bust and you are only rolling 10, whats your point?
my point is if u just dont get greedy and cashout earlier, like 20 % profits then u have a chance to make profits
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hero member
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August 11, 2015, 08:18:06 AM
dice i make some money from that and sometime lose for dice  Tongue
but never can leave from gambling or dice xD
-AFK
legendary
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August 11, 2015, 07:57:57 AM
the only reason I can think of is 'Fast'

just 1 click then you know your result.

Fast for you to lose i guess? Im pretty sure most people dont understand the math behind it and they just fall into the gamblers fallacy, otherwise there is really no point in playing dice or for the matter any other casino game, at least some of the others can be fun

i agree other gambling sites like casinos can be fun to play in and some of them are skill based and not 100% luck like how dice sites are.
people chose dice because it is the easiest way and does not need any experience or reading a full page on how the game works Cheesy
hero member
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August 11, 2015, 06:37:59 AM
the only reason I can think of is 'Fast'

just 1 click then you know your result.

Fast for you to lose i guess? Im pretty sure most people dont understand the math behind it and they just fall into the gamblers fallacy, otherwise there is really no point in playing dice or for the matter any other casino game, at least some of the others can be fun
hero member
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August 11, 2015, 06:36:42 AM
no luck

In a matter of fact, dice is all about luck . There is nothing much you can do except totally "hope for the best" that you might get yourself lucky

because the numbers get tampered

Totally wrong unless you play in a non-provably fair site or a rigged site like 999dice. Every dice sites that have provably fair wont tamper your bet result because players could check it easily and if someone finds out that the site is rigged than they are destroying their own reputation ( like what dicebitcoin did ). If you totally think your bet was tampered than simply prove it and present the proof in public therefore you can easily destroy their reputation, otherwise you are just being unlucky .

the only thing from which u can make money is 'short term variance' that is like investing and making 10 % in under 50 rolls

Variance is also about probability as you can always lose more than 10 % in under 50 rolls or so

in this way u can profit before the system gets u and as far as legends r concerned u r right they r legends because they start gambling with a ton load of BTC.. so there 20% is like 30 coins..

False and this is a total fallacy nothing more. Im not sure where do you play dice at but this is nonsense because it is not always a guarantee that you will win early in the games
well buddy dont want to argue on this but , if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50% chance while martingale and never got more than 10 reds while manually playing any other multiplier ??
Plus u have a better chance to win in the starting rolls because it takes time for the algorithm to understand the sequence ur playing and eventually u end up in a sequence which dosent suites your gambling strategy ..and dude u clearly dont understand how the numbers r tampered ,u can never catch if the numbers r tampered or not because the random numbers that is chosen generally on all dice sites are done by their algorithm or by their designed system not by yours and u cant fight why this is chosen and not that, so u get the same results as they get but the number was not really a RANDOM
when u martingale there is a very less chance to get busted in the beginning rolls but there is a 100000% chance that u get busted as soon as the rolls increase because eventually u end up in a sequence that dosent suite ur method etc.. and plus this is all maths and probabilities everything is approx..and  i never gave anyone a guarantee loll... RELAX .

Of course there is a less chance to bust on the begining rolls, there is in fact no chance if you need 20 loses to bust and you are only rolling 10, whats your point?
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August 11, 2015, 03:56:52 AM
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well buddy dont want to argue on this

We are not arguing, exchanging opinion for the better good isnt arguing at all

if the numbers r not tampered then why do i always get 30 reds at 50%49.5 % chance while martingale 

Always ? thats pretty much unlikely because the chances to hit 30 reds at 49.5 % chance to win is 0.00000013%. Either way you only hit it few times or that you are emphasizing it . As a matter of fact, unless the probability to hit it is 0 % then it means there is still a "chance" to actually hit it

and never got more than 10 reds while manually playing any other multiplier ??

Depends on what other multiplier that you are using. I got more than 100 loss streak playing with 20x multiplier and it is normal

Plus u have a better chance to win in the starting rolls because it takes time for the algorithm to understand the sequence ur playing

Now you are being absurd. The rolls are dependant and if you think this "thing" exist then all you need to do is to change your "pattern" which I think is pretty much absurd

and eventually u end up in a sequence which dosent suites your gambling strategy

Which is true and they call it gambling because it is unsure and isnt in your favor

..and dude u clearly dont understand how the numbers r tampered

I perfectly understand it is not tampered and it is you who dont

u can never catch if the numbers r tampered or not

Yes you can, all you need to do is to verify it. Incase you dont understand what provably fair means and how to verify it then you should read this wonderful guide here http://dicesites.com/provably-fair

because the random numbers that is chosen generally on all dice sites are done by their algorithm

Done by their algorithm and server seed PLUS players' seed , therefore the result is totally random

or by their designed system not by yours and u cant fight why this is chosen and not that, so u get the same results as they get but the number was not really a RANDOM

Simply prove it with a proof and everyone will believe you  Smiley

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Delusional, please read the provably fair guide and simply prove it. Thats all I can say, otherwise this is just totally absurd



On a side note , at which site do you usually play dice at?
well u r the man .. end this .
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