Topic: Why I'm an atheist - page 2. (Read 89176 times)

Yes the earth convulses or "vents" and volcanoes erupt and the earthquakes happen in many places.Don't assume it would be oxygen that causes the earth to convulse either. The Earth gets hotter as one travels towards the core, known as the geothermal gradient.The composition of Earth's core remains a mystery but yes as a lake is flat on the surface to your eyes on earth such will be the lake of fire within it.


Irrelevant-Refer to point regarding your soul below


The soul is not made of flesh. It is the individual spirit that is placed within your flesh vessel . It's what makes you "YOU" and not the person standing next to you.




I can see by your tone that no answer will be enough but lead to another question so I will leave it to the very God you question to answer you in full one day in a way better than my limited ability can but maybe Hebrews Chapter 10 will help your understanding of God's mercy.......all the way to verse 31 please.

You may find out one day but I genuinely hope you never do. The very bowels of the earth you live upon. If hell can be contained within the bowels of the earth in caverns of darkness while the earth further within contain a lake of fire and the earth itself is like a grain of sand among the spheres of the Heavens have you any idea how infinite they are and how insignificant we are? You cannot hear sound outside the earth yet light will travel freely through the darkness. When your soul departs your mortal body at your appointed time of death you will understand in far better ways I could possibly even try to explain to you. Sounds cannot be heard from hell but only by those within it however even light can even travel through the darkness of hell and those who see it should flee to it. Mock at your own expense if you wish but you have asked the question and I have no reason to lie or make up foolish tales that make me look like a ridiculous loon in front of the readers here (Yes I already know the things I am saying make me sound like a crazy person to the average reader and I don't enjoy being laughed at but such is life  )


First torture that constitutes hell - is the loss of God;

Second torture - is perpetual remorse of conscience;

Third torture - is that one's condition will never change;

Fourth torture - is the fire that will penetrate the soul without destroying it - a terrible suffering, since it is a purely spiritual fire, lit by God's anger;

Fifth torture - is continual darkness and a terrible suffocating smell, and, despite the darkness, the devils and the souls of the damned see each other and all the evil, both of others and their own;

Sixth torture - is the constant company of Satan;

Seventh torture - is horrible despair, hatred of God, vile words, curses and blasphemies.

These are the tortures suffered by all the damned together, but that is not the end of the sufferings. There are special tortures destined for particular souls. These are the torments of the senses. Each soul undergoes terrible and indescribable sufferings, related to the manner in which it has sinned. There are caverns and pits of torture where one form of agony differs from another...Let the sinner know that he will be tortured throughout all eternity, in those senses which he made use of to sin. I am writing this at the command of God, so that no soul may find an excuse by saying there is no hell, or that nobody has ever been there, and so no one an say what it is like."

"Don't sit with scoffers lest you be devoured". "Don't cast your pearls before swine". "Don't give the bread that belongs to the children to the dogs". An atheist who won't believe will suddenly believe when he finds himself facing the depths of hell but to save many the bother hell will soon be paying another visit to earth.

..... I think you are quite a unique person.

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The whole Christian religion is this simple:
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1 God made the universe and mankind perfect.
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2. Mankind corrupted himself by not following God's divine laws perfectly.

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3. The corruption would destroy mankind if not corrected.

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4. God sent his Son Jesus in the form of a man to live on Earth.

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5. Jesus kept the whole law of God perfectly, AND He took the punishment that was reserved for all mankind for their corruption.

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6 The only thing left for man to do is believe it... believe in Jesus and what He did for us.

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7. A person's actions in obeying the laws of God shows where his faith is, or if he has any faith. Disobedience also brings correction from God in this life. It often feels like pain and punishment.

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Why all this? Because God is going to destroy the universe, because He doesn't like corruption. .....

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...... But because of His love for people, He wants to save mankind. The Jesus-salvation believers will be saved by being raised from death, and being taken to a new, perfect universe God is making (Heaven).

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That's the whole, simplified story of what Christianity is all about...

But it's not really that simple in ways. Read the first 4 books in the New Testament of the Bible.

To be honest, I was born in a multicultural family. some of our family members embrace different beliefs, including teachings about Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, and even the religion inherited from our ancestors. in essence, all the religions that I studied teach kindness, love, and be useful to your fellow creatures including nature and everything in it.

But by the way, I do not understand the essence of what you convey. I know, in Christian beliefs, Catholicism, Islam, almost have similarities. but, don't get me wrong, I'm not debating it or comparing it to certain religions. what you say, I understand very well. about adam and eve, revelation and the end times. it's just that, I'm a little confused by the essence of what you convey in this post.

One more thing, sometimes I like to read your posts and even your arguments. many things and points that I like from your post, but not completely. not infrequently, you convey about religion and beliefs. but on the other hand, you like war conflicts. I think you are quite a unique person.

The whole theme of the Bible is to get people to believe that God is saving them. Right after Adam and Eve sinned, God spoke about the salvation He was sending.

This salvation is the thread that flows to Jesus, where Jesus does it for God. And following this work that Jesus did, there is writings on the new life that people should want to live in. And there is the Revelation that shows what the final result of all of this will be.

It took me some time to understand all this long post. at least, there are many things that I should interpret and inspire. unfortunately, my time is limited for that. so I only read the colored text and everything else is cursory. whatever you say, in essence you do not believe in god let alone life after death. I can't argue as well as you can, at least not on matters of faith. this problem, is a spiritual problem, between me and my god, nor is it only based on guidance from holy books that exist from various beliefs.

To be honest, I have read a lot about various religions, especially the leading religions on this earth. in fact, we had our own ancestral beliefs before imported religions came and spread in my country. for me, religion and its holy book are just guidelines that in this era need to be revised. because after all, there are many things that become pros and cons between verse one and another verse. but in essence, how do we define God himself. and if being an atheist makes you happy, then that is entirely yours and no one forbids it, except for a fool who imposes his beliefs on others.

To be honest, my faith is very doubtful and even I am no better than other believers. but I believe, there is a big entity behind all human drama and contents of everything in this universe. after all, until now technology has not answered all about the secrets of the universe. whatever the argument, it will not solve problems and debates related to religion. So, if that makes you happy you have every right not to have a religion.

   I just say I have no reasons to believe on his existence and have some grounds above presented that point against his existence.

   It's the same situation that makes be very skeptic on the existence of flying horses.

   I'm very skeptical, but I'm open to any real evidence on the existence of god or flying horses.

   Therefore, I think I have grounds to say that I'm an atheist and not a simple agnostic.

I think the reason you posted is because you are either a delusional idiot or some stupid meaningless AI bot.
 

I think the reason you are an atheist is because you have a quarrel or a grudge with God  ,but deep down you know that God exists .

You wanted me to bite didn't you bud? I know ....It's how you get your jollies. Sit around in front of a screen all day and post nonsense on a bitcoin forum in hopes someone will quote and reply.
Here ya go..... nom nom nom nom!!.  You're welcome!
Carry on now, as I'm sure you will. Hey, do you have a paying job outside of posting claptrap all day?? Just curious. I do. I'll even tell you about it, if you want.

ateotd .... it's why I'm an atheist... so I can mock silly folks like you. Its like shooting fish in a barrel.

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Well, that just goes to show you, by your own admittance, that you don't really know how the universe works. The sun doesn't come up in the morning. Rather, the Earth turns so that a different section of it faces the sun.

So, learn a little science so that you can stop spouting magic. All you are proving is that your atheism is a religion.

I think the reason you are an atheist is because you have a quarrel or a grudge with God  ,but deep down you know that God exists .

Being a Christian isn't about making heaven or going to heaven please let's not limit Christianity to heaven because in revelation we find out that God himself will come down and dwell amongst men eternally so when we christians talk about heaven it usually about the 1000 millennial reign of Christ when the antichrist takes over the world by then those of us that are raptured taken up will be there in heaven waiting for the 2nd judgement.
During this period those who don't believe in Christ will be given a second chance to repent to join us if not.... Sorry will be thier case because eternal damnation awaits them..... Accept Jesus Christ now and join us to enjoy a glorious life eternally....