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Quote from: paxmao on December 27, 2022, 05:57:18 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on December 14, 2021, 05:43:17 PM

Where is Heaven?

Is that some sort of comic book convention?

Most mythologies (also known as religions) offer something in exchange for following a number of precepts. Most of the organised religions basically try to achieve a certain social order and peace in a society. It is much easier to do so if you promise a price for good behaviour and what is better than eternal life in a paradise, heaven or whatever you choose.

There is no obvious reason to believe in any of the "religions" than there would be to believe in the ancient Greek gods or in the sanctity of cows. There is no obvious reason either to think that there is nothing out there, whatever shape may it take, that has some connection with eternity or our creation. If something is certain, is uncertainty on the fundamental questions of life.

A mistake that many people make is, they live thinking that they don't have any religion. EVERYBODY has religion! People who say that they don't have religion, simply have a religion of no-religion.

The important thing is to find the religion that is correct. Everybody dies, even the no-religion people. What this means is that eternal life is not part of this life.

If anybody wants eternal life, he has to find the right religion. Why? Because EVERYBODY has religion in some form... even if it is simply a religion of no-religion. Find the right religion, and live forever in a new life.

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Quote from: af_newbie on December 14, 2021, 05:43:17 PM

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Quote from: realcrypto on December 12, 2021, 04:01:38 PM

This is the most lengthy thread I have ever read since I joined Bitcointalk. You have done justice by analyzing the two most popular religious believe. I personally will not belong to any of those religion if it was only through just reading or listening to the religious leaders teach. I am a Christian, I stick to being a Christian because of my personal enchanters I have with Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I have received healing severally without taking any drugs. The holy spirit guides me by showing me visions of what will happen in the future and they all come to pass.

So, fill yourself on the Bible. It's the only accurate source for Christianity. See you in Heaven.

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Where is Heaven?

Is that some sort of comic book convention?

Most mythologies (also known as religions) offer something in exchange for following a number of precepts. Most of the organised religions basically try to achieve a certain social order and peace in a society. It is much easier to do so if you promise a price for good behaviour and what is better than eternal life in a paradise, heaven or whatever you choose.

There is no obvious reason to believe in any of the "religions" than there would be to believe in the ancient Greek gods or in the sanctity of cows. There is no obvious reason either to think that there is nothing out there, whatever shape may it take, that has some connection with eternity or our creation. If something is certain, is uncertainty on the fundamental questions of life.

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Quote from: af_newbie on December 26, 2022, 09:32:03 AM

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Quote from: sirazimuth on December 23, 2022, 03:27:44 AM

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Whoa!! I have visions of what will happen in the future that come to pass too!.. like for instance, I had this vision last night that the sun would come up in the morning,
...and lo and behold, the sun came up!... its fucking magic!!! ...

But anyway, ateotd ............... it's why I'm an atheist.

https://i.imgur.com/3IW9d6u.png

Well, that just goes to show you, by your own admittance, that you don't really know how the universe works. The sun doesn't come up in the morning. Rather, the Earth turns so that a different section of it faces the sun.

So, learn a little science so that you can stop spouting magic. All you are proving is that your atheism is a religion.

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The book of Genesis is full of magic. ROFL.

How old is Earth, again? Please do tell us.

Please do tell us your views on evolution. LOL.

Science my ass.

Creation isn't magic. Rather, it's a miracle.

From the best ancient history records, the earth is about 7,500 years old in our current age. Even second best records show that our current age is probably less than 10,000 years old, but couldn't be more than 25,000 years old. All told, no human knows how old the universe really is.

If you are talking about standard Evolution Theory (ET) type of evolution, ET absolutely destroys evolution, and this whole evolution idea is simply a trick being played on the minds of evolutionists. For you, I will say the reason again. Here it is:

Study Cause and Effect (C&E). Everything operates by C&E. There is nothing that happens without being caused. There is no truly spontaneous action that ever happens. At least, we haven't found any. In fact, a truly spontaneous action doesn't even fit how the physics of the universe works.

Because of this, random mutations in ET are not spontaneous happenings. Rather, random simply means that we don't know the mutations that make evolutionary changes. Since we don't know which or what mutations, how do we know that evolution exists at all? We don't! It's all guesswork.

People who absolutely believe that evolution exists something like ET states, have a religion-like idea going for themselves, because random in ET says that we don't know.

Yep. Stuff you are talking about isn't science. Rather, it is science fiction, some of which might accidentally happen to be true once in a while. But you don't know it.

Try supplementing on Gingko Biloba and Focus Factor. They might help you to think better. No; seriously. No belittlement meant.

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Quote from: sirazimuth on December 23, 2022, 03:27:44 AM

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Whoa!! I have visions of what will happen in the future that come to pass too!.. like for instance, I had this vision last night that the sun would come up in the morning,
...and lo and behold, the sun came up!... its fucking magic!!! ...

But anyway, ateotd ............... it's why I'm an atheist.

https://i.imgur.com/3IW9d6u.png

Well, that just goes to show you, by your own admittance, that you don't really know how the universe works. The sun doesn't come up in the morning. Rather, the Earth turns so that a different section of it faces the sun.

So, learn a little science so that you can stop spouting magic. All you are proving is that your atheism is a religion.

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Quote from: realcrypto on December 12, 2021, 04:01:38 PM

This is the most lengthy thread I have ever read since I joined Bitcointalk. ......

Obviously you must be new here... this one is a bit longer....https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wall-observer-btcusd-bitcoin-price-movement-tracking-discussion-178336

Quote from: realcrypto on December 12, 2021, 04:01:38 PM

.....You have done justice by analyzing the two most popular religious believe.....

I can do justice by analyzing the Flying Spaghetti Monster if you'd like. His noodled appendage touched my soul and now I am a true believer.

Quote from: realcrypto on December 12, 2021, 04:01:38 PM

..... I personally will not belong to any of those religion if it was only through just reading or listening to the religious leaders teach. .....

Oh come on now! Try reading the Holy ~~Babble Bullshit~~ Bible... its full of inerrant facts that cannot be disputed because ummm.... well they just can't, and that's that.

Quote from: realcrypto on December 12, 2021, 04:01:38 PM

. I am a Christian, I stick to being a Christian because of my personal enchanters I have with Jesus and the Holy Spirit. ...

enchanters eh? Yeah, I got enchanted once by an evil enchanter monster under my bed. I was five at the time and my mommy woke me up from having a nightmare.

Quote from: realcrypto on December 12, 2021, 04:01:38 PM

...... I have received healing severally without taking any drugs. ..

Try taking drugs. You will have severally good times.

Quote from: realcrypto on December 12, 2021, 04:01:38 PM

.... The holy spirit guides me ...

The holy spirit guides me too. Well, that's what I call a shot of Absolut Peppar anyway " The holy spirit"... its good shit man and causes me to make these less than eloquent posts.

Quote from: realcrypto on December 12, 2021, 04:01:38 PM

........by showing me visions of what will happen in the future and they all come to pass.

Whoa!! I have visions of what will happen in the future that come to pass too!.. like for instance, I had this vision last night that the sun would come up in the morning,
...and lo and behold, the sun came up!... its fucking magic!!! ...

But anyway, ateotd ............... it's why I'm an atheist.

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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence

Being an Atheist is still a dangerous stand. On several countries we are still subject of persecution

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/25/world/africa/nigeria-blasphemy-atheist-islam.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/03/russian-atheist-faces-year-in-jail-for-denying-existence-of-god-during-webchat

https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/yt3wyb/youtuber_have_been_arrested_for_being_atheist/

Even a thread like this is enough to send to jail his author.

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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence

What seems to be the current best speculative attempt to explain the Universe's creation says that it was created by Quantum Fields, fields of energy which create particles by interacting between each other.

It's mainly a theoretical framework, as this is far from being empirical verified.

For beginners:
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/quantum-field-theory/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_field_theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNVQfWC_evg

Anyone saying that anything able to create the Universe fits the concept of god, can create another church and start worshiping Quantum Fields.

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Quote from: Trading on March 15, 2022, 05:57:27 PM

As someone said, Christians (and before them, pharaoh Akhenaton and the Jews) spared Atheists a lot of time, when they ruled out all the thousands of gods that were worshiped 2 thousands years ago as purely fake gods.

They created the perfect target for Atheists: only one god.

The holy trinity didn't really create much problems. It's so absurd that makes every thing easier.

But the real point is, machines have makers. We don't have one strand of evidence that there is anything that came into existence spontaneously, without having been made. And we know of countless things that have makers.

The complexity of the universe shows that whatever could make it, fits our understanding of what God would be. God made it all.

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As someone said, Christians (and before them, pharaoh Akhenaton and the Jews) spared Atheists a lot of time, when they ruled out all the thousands of gods that were worshiped 2 thousands years ago as purely fake gods.

They created the perfect target for Atheists: only one god.

The holy trinity didn't really create much problems. It's so absurd that makes every thing easier.

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The fact that there are hundreds of religions around the world is why I am also an atheist. Every single one of them thinks they have all the answers.... in reality, no one knows for sure.

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The religious flatearthers denying evolution are implying that god created all the SARS 2 variants when he created the world.

They just kept quiet for six thousand years and then, in two years, started popping up like popcorn.

Remember, there are dozens of variants, with tiny mutations. We just read about the concerning ones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variants_of_SARS-CoV-2

But all of them were planed and created by god at the same time.

We'll see how many more variants god prepared for us (irony).

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The lie about Jesus resurrection is in accordance with many other, including the one saying that Jesus was a descendant from David born in Bethlehem, when everything in the Bible points out to Nazareth.

There is no record of any census around the year 0 to force them to travel with Mary about to give birth.

The killing of the babies by Herod is ridiculous. The Romans wouldn’t ever allow that.

In fact, something as outraged as this would leave traces on historical records, including Jewish records. They would be the victims.

All of these lies were invented solely to make Jesus fit the ancient prophecies about the messiah.

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I had a post deleted there so this is not a repost but just to make it clear. I don't hate or even dislike atheists or anyone for that matter. Its's your actions that define you as a person. There are plenty of so called Christians, Muslims, Jews et al who don't practice what they preach and plenty of atheists who practice better what the former preach.

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Quote from: af_newbie on December 16, 2021, 07:25:44 AM

Is owning human beings as property moral?

Am skipping the rest questions so I can answer this. Like this, answers to the rest questions will also be what you will dispute. Every creator has a right to decide what they want to do with their creature, whether animate or inanimate. A car manufacturer, a goldsmith, a builder, a programmer are creators and are not different from God on that level. They have their different desires fir creating whatever they create. You have to understand that the only reason God created man was for His pleasure. So he can do with man the way it pleases Him like the creators of the objects I listed above.

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Quote from: Maestro75 on December 15, 2021, 11:47:15 PM

Quote from: af_newbie on December 14, 2021, 05:43:17 PM

Where is Heaven?

Is that some sort of comic book convention?

Reading the statement at the bottom of your profile where the signature space is and what the conclusion you reached there, am forced to remind you what the holy book talks about in 1 Corinthians 1:27 as how God chooses the foolish things of the world to put the wise to shame. He chooses the weak things of this world to put the powerful to shame. You can read it up. Those who act wise now will always end foolish before God.

I agree entirely with the statement in af_newbie's signature space. Religion is an ancient mechanism of social control, nothing more. It's an anachronism. It helped to keep tribal groups together and also provided an invisible all-seeing presence who would punish any bad behaviour. Nowadays the role played by religion is fulfilled by other things, police, army, government, surveillance cameras, etc.

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Quote from: af_newbie on December 14, 2021, 05:43:17 PM

Where is Heaven?

Is that some sort of comic book convention?

Reading the statement at the bottom of your profile where the signature space is and what the conclusion you reached there, am forced to remind you what the holy book talks about in 1 Corinthians 1:27 as how God chooses the foolish things of the world to put the wise to shame. He chooses the weak things of this world to put the powerful to shame. You can read it up. Those who act wise now will always end foolish before God.

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Quote from: realcrypto on December 12, 2021, 04:01:38 PM

This is the most lengthy thread I have ever read since I joined Bitcointalk. You have done justice by analyzing the two most popular religious believe. I personally will not belong to any of those religion if it was only through just reading or listening to the religious leaders teach. I am a Christian, I stick to being a Christian because of my personal enchanters I have with Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I have received healing severally without taking any drugs. The holy spirit guides me by showing me visions of what will happen in the future and they all come to pass.

So, fill yourself on the Bible. It's the only accurate source for Christianity. See you in Heaven.

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This is the most lengthy thread I have ever read since I joined Bitcointalk. You have done justice by analyzing the two most popular religious believe. I personally will not belong to any of those religion if it was only through just reading or listening to the religious leaders teach. I am a Christian, I stick to being a Christian because of my personal enchanters I have with Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I have received healing severally without taking any drugs. The holy spirit guides me by showing me visions of what will happen in the future and they all come to pass.

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Quote from: Trading on December 08, 2021, 05:15:19 PM

Christians don’t just pretend that Jesus survived the cross thanks to his «immortal soul».

They don’t just believe that he resurrected after three days, like Osiris and others (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying-and-rising_deity) or the Sun on the 25th December.

They pretend that he ascended to heaven still with his mortal body, flouting up into the sky.

It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s Superman, it’s Neo… no, it’s Jesus doing a loop and another risky aerobatic maneuver.

Ergo, on Heaven there are mostly «souls», but people from the family also walk around there in body.

The body is made of matter, flesh and bones, but no problem. It won’t die or decay forever.

It's perplexing that someone can even accept these histories as worthy of consideration.

Since this is what's happening, it's amazing that people are mentally strong enough to replace themselves over God in the operation of things. Of course, they are only blinding themselves to the REAL God, and lifting themselves up to the god-position... because they think they want to be in control.

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Christians don’t just pretend that Jesus survived the cross thanks to his «immortal soul».

They don’t just believe that he resurrected after three days, like Osiris and others (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying-and-rising_deity) or the Sun on the 25th December.

They pretend that he ascended to heaven still with his mortal body, flouting up into the sky.

It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s Superman, it’s Neo… no, it’s Jesus doing a loop and another risky aerobatic maneuver.

Ergo, on Heaven there are mostly «souls», but people from the family also walk around there in body.

The body is made of matter, flesh and bones, but no problem. It won’t die or decay forever.

It's perplexing that someone can even accept these histories as worthy of consideration.

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