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legendary
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June 18, 2016, 05:47:48 PM
A priestess confessed what many simple disguise in order to keep their job: she doesn't believe in god:

http://www.grettavosper.ca/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretta_Vosper

Most just go with the flow.  Some, like this woman had the courage to speak about it publicly.

Realization that one is an atheist is liberating.  But for some people (BADecker types), it is almost impossible
to change their mind, despite an overwhelming lack of evidence in the existence of any supernatural being (never mind Jesus/Father/Holly Spirit?/Allah/Yahweh etc).  They need God construct to explain the complexity they observe.  They are looking for confirmation of their irrational beliefs and in the process commit a cardinal sin of confirmation bias  Grin Grin.

legendary
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June 25, 2016, 03:07:48 PM
My answers in this thread are rational; no need to insinuate that they are "out of this world"; I am certainly here to help you engage with the facts of the brain research that I present to you; in fact, many eminent researchers do not believe in evolution and reject physicalism, a very good reason to inquire about theories that are non-physical.

In this thread, atheists provide only their opinions with no evidence to support them! When questioned on the details, atheists fail to respond coherently on the subject of NDEs.

Take an entry level, undergrad human physiology course.  That should be enough for you to understand how our nervous system works.
The rhetorical opinions of your NDE theories are presented as if they were scientific. The opinion of a select few BITCOINERS, who are not experts on the subject, can hardly be called scientific evidence.

Some atheists and pseudoskeptics will say that science has removed the need for God as an explanation for the existence of the natural world. The quotes here demonstrate that many of the greatest scientific minds believe just the opposite, that the scientific evidence is best explained by the existence of an intelligent designer of the universe.

Even Darwin saw the absurdity of attributing to material nature that which is obviously the result of DESIGNED LAWS.
Read More: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15337196

A good bunch of the people that support evolution in this forum are simply trolls, often paid for by the so-called science elite. They don't want the stupidity of certain important aspects of science to become known any more than necessary. It's all about their salary, and maybe even controlling the world through false "knowledge."

Cool
hero member
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June 25, 2016, 03:00:47 PM
My answers in this thread are rational; no need to insinuate that they are "out of this world"; I am certainly here to help you engage with the facts of the brain research that I present to you; in fact, many eminent researchers do not believe in evolution and reject physicalism, a very good reason to inquire about theories that are non-physical.

In this thread, atheists provide only their opinions with no evidence to support them! When questioned on the details, atheists fail to respond coherently on the subject of NDEs.

Take an entry level, undergrad human physiology course.  That should be enough for you to understand how our nervous system works.
The rhetorical opinions of your NDE theories are presented as if they were scientific. The opinion of a select few BITCOINERS, who are not experts on the subject, can hardly be called scientific evidence.

Some atheists and pseudoskeptics will say that science has removed the need for God as an explanation for the existence of the natural world. The quotes here demonstrate that many of the greatest scientific minds believe just the opposite, that the scientific evidence is best explained by the existence of an intelligent designer of the universe.

Even Darwin saw the absurdity of attributing to material nature that which is obviously the result of DESIGNED LAWS.
Read More: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15337196
legendary
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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
June 25, 2016, 12:27:12 PM
I verified that, on other threads about this subject, sometimes the discussion gets personal.

Remember always that if the person on the other side starts insulting you, that means he is feeling insecure. Aggression most of the time comes directly from insecurity.

It means you really hit him on a soft spot. No reason to reply in kind: you won.

Is there any reason to dislike the believers that post on this thread? I don't see what.

Usually, they are polite persons. On the small cases when things go a little below the line, that mean they understood one of the comments as personal or directly to them.

Let's show them that we are more civilized than them. That we don't need the threats of any invisible entity to have better moral formation.

How could one dislike their posts?

I have more than one reason to really like them, but just let me state one:

Most of the time their answers are so out of this world, that they are like the bible: we just have to read it to be an atheist.
legendary
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June 25, 2016, 10:56:33 AM


Neal Adam's timing is off due to his following of the stupid timeline of modern science.

Remember that he earth was split in the days of Peleg? There were no separate continents before that time.

Cool

Look into it. The earth is a little over 6,000 years old. All the science that suggests any times beyond about 4,500 years by science, is completely guesswork, designed to do two things:
1. Bring stability to the world of science;
2. Eliminate God out of as much thinking as possible.

When you look into the papers, you see that the scientific ideas of the age of the earth is all guesswork. The papers say so.

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legendary
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June 25, 2016, 10:52:12 AM


Neal Adam's timing is off due to his following of the stupid timeline of modern science.

Remember that he earth was split in the days of Peleg? There were no separate continents before that time.

Cool
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June 25, 2016, 10:42:45 AM
legendary
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June 25, 2016, 10:07:53 AM
One of the most ridiculous stands of certain religious people are their opinions on evolution.

It's hilarious the way as they try to explain fossils with more than 2 million years.

Since they can't accept any evolution, they defend that Australopithecus are apes and the first members of the genus homo are just humans with diseases.
 
Let's forget that the differences between some Australopithecus and Homo Habilis, Homo Rudolfensis, Homo Gautengensisor or Homo Naledi are much smaller than the ones between all these Homo and modern Homo Sapiens.

Actually, scientists studied evolution on many species, like on bacteria, under controlled conditions.

The longest of these experiments has been running for 28 years on e-coli bacteria. They registered many genetic modifications on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment

We have now precisely a big problem caused by evolution that is the resistance that bacteria are developing to antibiotics.

But no worries, we just have to pray god. God will provide, like he provides everyday to all the dying kids with hunger or easily treated diseases.

But the people who understand that the science of probability math and the science of cause and effect eliminate any chance of evolution aver existing, show that the evolutionists have one of the stupidest religions around.

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June 25, 2016, 09:14:50 AM
       

                        Why am I an atheist



You are an atheist because you fear  Smiley
legendary
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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
June 25, 2016, 09:13:11 AM
One of the most ridiculous stands of certain religious people are their opinions on evolution.

It's hilarious the way as they try to explain fossils with more than 2 million years.

Since they can't accept any evolution, they defend that Australopithecus are apes and the first members of the genus homo are just humans with diseases.
 
Let's forget that the differences between some Australopithecus and Homo Habilis, Homo Rudolfensis, Homo Gautengensisor or Homo Naledi are much smaller than the ones between all these Homo and modern Homo Sapiens.

Actually, scientists studied evolution on many species, like on bacteria, under controlled conditions.

The longest of these experiments has been running for 28 years on e-coli bacteria. They registered many genetic modifications on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._coli_long-term_evolution_experiment

We have now precisely a big problem caused by evolution that is the resistance that bacteria are developing to antibiotics.

But no worries, we just have to pray god. God will provide, like he provides everyday to all the dying kids with hunger or easily treated diseases.
sr. member
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June 18, 2016, 07:28:13 PM
same as like my teacher  Shocked he says

1) God is a human creation.

   All the hundreds of religions/sects and their multiple absolute contradictions seem to be plenty evidence that all gods are human creations.

legendary
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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
June 18, 2016, 02:47:35 PM
A priestess confessed what many simple disguise in order to keep their job: she doesn't believe in god:

http://www.grettavosper.ca/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretta_Vosper
hero member
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June 11, 2016, 02:21:41 AM

The only people who see a white light, etc, are religious... if you are not religious, you see aliens, or some other weird shit

Your claim is based on people's testimony, and it is factually wrong, but you will not admit it, so you instead resort to calling me names; you are nothing but a hypocrite; at least if you could admit that you were mistaken THIS ONE TIME, it would lead to a more fruitful discussion in the future...

My claim is based on scientific experimentation involving an electromagnet placed against the brain

I have been over this with you months ago, and even linked the video to you!

Quit pretending like we haven't already had this fucking argument

Your claim was refuted by way of counterexample. I even linked you to two counterexamples and there are many, many more!

Watch the video again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCVzz96zKA0

You cannot refute scientific experimentation with testimony... science doesn' work like that

Sorry, you are wrong
hero member
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June 11, 2016, 02:20:40 AM

The only people who see a white light, etc, are religious... if you are not religious, you see aliens, or some other weird shit

Your claim is based on people's testimony, and it is factually wrong, but you will not admit it, so you instead resort to calling me names; you are nothing but a hypocrite; at least if you could admit that you were mistaken THIS ONE TIME, it would lead to a more fruitful discussion in the future...

My claim is based on scientific experimentation involving an electromagnet placed against the brain

I have been over this with you months ago, and even linked the video to you!

Quit pretending like we haven't already had this fucking argument

Your claim was refuted by way of counterexample. I even linked you to two counterexamples and there are many, many more!
hero member
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June 11, 2016, 02:19:16 AM

The only people who see a white light, etc, are religious... if you are not religious, you see aliens, or some other weird shit

Your claim is based on people's testimony, and it is factually wrong, but you will not admit it, so you instead resort to calling me names; you are nothing but a hypocrite; at least if you could admit that you were mistaken THIS ONE TIME, it would lead to a more fruitful discussion in the future...

My claim is based on scientific experimentation involving an electromagnet placed against the brain

I have been over this with you months ago, and even linked the video to you!

Quit pretending like we haven't already had this fucking argument
hero member
Activity: 636
Merit: 505
June 11, 2016, 02:12:44 AM

The only people who see a white light, etc, are religious... if you are not religious, you see aliens, or some other weird shit

Your claim is based on people's testimony, and it is factually wrong, but you will not admit it, so you instead resort to calling me names; you are nothing but a hypocrite; at least if you could admit that you were mistaken THIS ONE TIME, it would lead to a more fruitful discussion in the future...
legendary
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June 10, 2016, 09:03:01 PM
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Just want you to know this...Humans have brains and act the same..You will take in the life you live in your brain and i will take the life i live..But if we get hurt i feel pain like you if we get sick i feel the same sickness as you..
Now if i DREAM i DREAM the same dreams as you but with little twist like who is in these dreams..
But because more than 30 people say the same thing  got to be god Cheesy..IT'S WHAT BRAINS ACT LIKE WE ARE ALL HUMANS WITH A BRAIN..
IT FUNCTIONS THE SAME..

Now i think your wasting your time but if you think your not then good luck because i am a believer that nothing is impossible in this day and age..
So one day you might prove us all wrong..And then you got to prove it's to do with god Grin
So good luck with your quest..And most important we need proof your right.. And not with writing show us so are eyes can see the proof to your claims..
GOOD LUCK..Still think your better wasting your time doing something else..YOU MIGHT PROVE US WRONG..
Like winning the lottery jackpot 10 times so good luck..plus people wanting to know if an after life for hundreds maybe thousands of years with no joy of proof..


None of this is significant either way. Why not? Because it is a little thing for God to remember every little thing about the life of a person, and to keep the person's soul alive without the body if necessary. And God can instantly materialize a new body for any soul He wants at any time.

Cool

And yet he could not save himself.  He let people to commit a cardinal sin in order to forgive sins???  Did he forgive Daesh sins as well?
Do you mean Jesus could not save Himself from death on the cross? His Father saved Him. He arose on the third day after. He is alive right now, and in control of everything, because His Father gave Him control.

People commit sins because they want to, or because they are weak. All sins have been forgiven except one... the sin against the Holy spirit.


Your Christian mythology has some serious holes....

Muslims bring this up all the time:  "Allah is more powerful, he would never let people crucify him.  Christian god is not powerful, he let humans kill him and could not save himself."

BADecker, if your guy in the sky is so powerful, ask him to post a message here and sign it with my bitcoin address private keys. :-)
If he does not know how to use bitcoin, explain it to him :-)


Jesus didn't "let" people crucify Him. He invited it, at the correct time, of course. Why did Jesus do this? Here's why.

In the Garden, at the Beginning, there were only two people and the snake (Satan, the Devil, was in the snake.). The people had control at that time, but didn't realize how powerful their control was. Satan tempted them to eat the fruit, and when they did, they gave their control over to Satan by listening to his temptations. Satan took control, but death followed for people... we all give in to the temptation from Satan.

Jesus never gave in to the temptation from Satan. He died the death without giving in to the temptation, thereby taking back the control. (When a person is dead, he can no longer be tempted to do anything. His position is locked in.)

Now, because of Jesus death, people have control, again. Why? Because Satan can never tempt Him to sin again. Jesus arose from the dead to prove it. His Father gave Him all authority in Heaven and on Earth for what He did.

Jesus has promised salvation from death for all who believe in Him. But you can't know this if you only read Islamic texts, because Islamic texts have serious gaps and holes in them. You know which book to read to understand this.

Cool

You are funny.  Gaps and holes?  Just listen to Ricky for an "in-depth" analysis of the Bible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oH0ReL3Cew

hero member
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June 11, 2016, 02:09:22 AM
u mad bro?

Yeah bro, I am mad that you fail to admit the truth, no matter what. I am mad at hypocrites like u, brah

The only people who see a white light, etc, are religious... if you are not religious, you see aliens, or some other weird shit

You are totally wrong about that! Admit it!
Source:
http://www.near-death.com/science/evidence.html#a50
Another source:
http://www.near-death.com/science/evidence.html#a26

Usually when people get this defensive it is because they know deep down that they are full of shit

You make wild claims but have zero scientific evidence to back any of it up... there is no such scientific evidence for NDE's being anything like what you claim... you have provided no such evidence... all your links are purely anecdotal gibberish... with zero science involved

Testimony is not science fucktard

People tell stories about seeing white lights, aliens, ghosts, bigfoot, demons, gods, etc, etc, etc... it doesn't make any of it real
hero member
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June 11, 2016, 02:06:29 AM
u mad bro?

Yeah bro, I am mad that you fail to admit the truth, no matter what. I am mad at hypocrites like u, brah

The only people who see a white light, etc, are religious... if you are not religious, you see aliens, or some other weird shit

You are totally wrong about that! Admit it!
Source:
http://www.near-death.com/science/evidence.html#a50
Another source:
http://www.near-death.com/science/evidence.html#a26
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 1468
June 10, 2016, 07:09:59 AM
...
Just want you to know this...Humans have brains and act the same..You will take in the life you live in your brain and i will take the life i live..But if we get hurt i feel pain like you if we get sick i feel the same sickness as you..
Now if i DREAM i DREAM the same dreams as you but with little twist like who is in these dreams..
But because more than 30 people say the same thing  got to be god Cheesy..IT'S WHAT BRAINS ACT LIKE WE ARE ALL HUMANS WITH A BRAIN..
IT FUNCTIONS THE SAME..

Now i think your wasting your time but if you think your not then good luck because i am a believer that nothing is impossible in this day and age..
So one day you might prove us all wrong..And then you got to prove it's to do with god Grin
So good luck with your quest..And most important we need proof your right.. And not with writing show us so are eyes can see the proof to your claims..
GOOD LUCK..Still think your better wasting your time doing something else..YOU MIGHT PROVE US WRONG..
Like winning the lottery jackpot 10 times so good luck..plus people wanting to know if an after life for hundreds maybe thousands of years with no joy of proof..


None of this is significant either way. Why not? Because it is a little thing for God to remember every little thing about the life of a person, and to keep the person's soul alive without the body if necessary. And God can instantly materialize a new body for any soul He wants at any time.

Cool

And yet he could not save himself.  He let people to commit a cardinal sin in order to forgive sins???  Did he forgive Daesh sins as well?

Your Christian mythology has some serious holes....

Muslims bring this up all the time:  "Allah is more powerful, he would never let people crucify him.  Christian god is not powerful, he let humans kill him and could not save himself."

BADecker, if your guy in the sky is so powerful, ask him to post a message here and sign it with my bitcoin address private keys. :-)
If he does not know how to use bitcoin, explain it to him :-)

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