Topic: Why I'm an atheist - page 71. (Read 89184 times)

What is not what case?

Atheism is religion. However, if all those people who are stating that it is religion are wrong (Google "atheism religion"), they are not wrong by much. Moloch, by being a bit of an atheist zealot, is also a religious zealot, the thing he seems to despise.


Just trying to be agreeable as much as I can while at the same time speaking his language.



First, nobody questions everything about God. Nobody can question more than a little about God, because nobody knows enough about Him to ask more than a fraction of the questions that could be asked about God. The important answer about God is that God is love.

Second, you care at least a little, or you wouldn't have posted the way you have.

Third, as I said to Moloch here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14773029:Since you care enough to reply, the Thing you are saying "your god" about, is the God of the universe, as proven to exist by science and nature.

God is sorry you just don't care. He is sorry for you. He made this whole universe including yourself, and He holds everything in place. By your not caring, you are pushing Him out of your life, which is really you pushing yourself out of life.

It's sad. I can tell by the language of your post that you are a caring, loving person. You should live. Your choice, however.

I think that is not the case. I am not so sensitive to posts like this and i agree to this posts. But it's ironic that you call them assholes while posting an asshole posts.
And i too am an atheist but it doesnt mean im gonna question everything about god. It's just i dont care.

Wow! You are finally stating that atheism is a self-contradictory idea. Or are you simply redefining the word "atheism?"


How many times do I have to tell you. I checked my pockets, the dresser drawers, the cupboards, behind the couch, even the shed, and I still can't find any god that I own. How can my god be a lie when I don't own one?


Just because I don't attempt to prove the existence of God, doesn't mean that I don't show the things that anyone can research to see that God exists. I even show that the only things that science uses to attempt to disprove science facts, are science theories which are not know to be factual.

So, now that you are re-defining "atheism" for yourself, how in the world is anyone not knowing your definition ever going to be able to determine whether or not it is the truth? Just by listening to you say it is? Be reasonable. We need more than your simple suggesting to that effect.


So, you admit that you aren't an atheist in the standard definition of the word.


How is anyone supposed to understand "it" when you don't clearly express which "it" you are talking about?



I had thought that I was replying to someone who is a bit logical... one who makes sense.

Now I see that you are re-defining "atheism," admitting to being an atheist at the same time you are admitting to not being one, jumping between the standard definition of "atheism" and your definition (which you haven't clearly defined for us, yet), and then dumping down into Buddhism (which probably has a different definition that the standard one for you, as well) without explaining why you are talking about Buddhism.

You seem to be hinting that you believe in some form of mysticism. Is that it? Or have you been going off the deep end for a long time, now, and are finally almost there. BitNow suggests that you are a demon, and not a human. I, at least, think that you are a human who is possibly troubled by a demon.

Come on, buddy. Pray to God for strength. He is ready and willing to help you through this time of trial, if only you will let Him... before it's too late.

You still can't seem to grasp this simple concept...

I'll try to explain for the 8000th time...

Being an atheist does not mean I don't believe in the existance of any gods... it means I don't believe you... I don't believe in YOUR god... YOUR god is a lie... it's fiction...

This does not mean I do not believe any gods exist or could exist... just that your description of a god is all wrong... it's contradictory and provably inaccurate

At the same time, I an open-minded enough that there could still be gods... just not the inconsistent god you believe in...



I'd relate it to Buddhism, but I doubt you understand that either...


I still don't know why you insist on replying to me with such nonsense... you only make yourself look stupid, over and over

Interesting game you are playing, Moloch. You claim you are an atheist, which means that you don't believe in the existence of God (or something like that). Then, by pictures and words like the above, you attempt to set yourself up in a position like God. Then you even act like you are God by admitting to believing that God exists, even if God is only you. And you do it in a religious way, proving that even if atheism happened to only be philosophy, you have strong, dedicated religion, personally. Then you call yourself an asshole.

It would be interesting to know exactly what your goal is with all this.

Science has found the proof of some so-calleds, and hasn't found the proof of many others.

Since atheism is a self-contradictory religion because of the fact that God exists, there really aren't any atheists... only liars.

+1 for doing proper research before spouting unfounded accusations

i dont think that science has found proof that explains existence of so called.. you said that atheism is getting weaker and weaker .. you are totally wrong .. because rates of atheists is inscreasing rapidly.. you should check the rates for sure.

No wonder you are all mixed up - examining every religion on the planet for 20 years. Since you have to stop somewhere that gives you some solidity in life, you won't allow yourself to recognize the fact that atheism is a religion.

You are going to have to look at the truth sometime. After all, science is out, because scientists are treating theory as truth in their groping at straws. And probability has proven that evolution couldn't have happened. And the 3 science basics prove that God exists. You are running out of room to force yourself to believe in your atheism fantasies.

Don't despair as proof for God becomes greater and greater, and atheism becomes weaker and weaker. Rather, pour out your soul to God in prayer, asking Him to show you the right way. He'll do it for you if you really ask Him in humility.

Here's the situation...

The Bhagavad Gita was written around 200-500 BC? (nobody seems to know for sure)

It talks about Arjuna/Krishna, who supposedly lived around 3100 BC

How historically accurate do you think it could be?... written 2500+ years after the events it describes?  Do you think it was written by an eye-witness?

Zeitgeist made a few claims that were debunked, but much of what it claimed about Christianity has been proven true... don't assume everything is false because 1 thing was false...

Many of the Zeitgeist claims have been proven true

No idea where you are going with BG and astronomical alignment... that means nothing other than they can look at some stars and realize they have patterns... every culture that ever existed has done this... nothing unique to the BG... the Mayans predicted astronomical alignments thousands of year ago too...

This claim of yours was thoroughly debunked in the alternative media shortly after the same claim was made in the film Zeitgeist, and another wave of debunking followed after other atheist films like Religulous. In fact, this claim has been thoroughly debunked and to say otherwise means you did not do enough reading, you just believed the claim.

In fact, there is a historical reference in the BG to an astronomical alignment that actually took place. That part is history, so you cannot say it is a story because THAT IS NOT REALITY. Reality has a past.

What about spiritual/religious books written within the last 2 centuries? Are you going to evaluate those?

It's certainly not a history book... it's not factual

Like most "history" of the day, it's full of magic and fairy tales... this is evident even in the case of real life people whom we know existed... When historians wrote about the battles of Caesar, they added magical stuff similar to what you find in the Mahabharata or the bible... while some of it might be based on a real event, it's not even close to the real history... everything has been embellished with a magical quality... most of the events were just stories passed down by word of mouth, and you should know how that changes a story every time its told...

It's just a collection of stories, nothing more... it's not history or fact... most likely none of it ever happened

It's similar to Jesus... the man most likely never even existed... its quite obvious to any serious historian that the story of Jesus is inaccurate on several major historical facts... like who was the emperor of Rome during the time of Christ... the bible got this wrong... the stories about Jesus are also a conglomeration of various myths and sayings which had been floating around the middle-east for centuries...

It's simply a collection of stories... that's all Jesus is

That's all Krishna is too... a collection of fairy tales... it's not real

It's not about secret knowledge, the topic is history and it has been recorded:


The people of India never had any doubts about the historicity of Krishna until the colonial invaders projected Krishna as a mythical figure cooked up by wonderful stories.

Atheists presented similar attacks against the historicity of Jesus but THESE ATTACKS ALL FAILED.

While Divinity is a matter of faith, historicity is a matter of existence.

I've read much of the Bhagavad Gita, it's as much bullshit as the rest of them... Hindu's aren't any better at inventing gods than other religions

The only decent 'religious' book I read was the Tao Te Ching

I suppose the Kabbala was decent... some interesting stories and thought experiments in The Zohar, but it's not real... none of it is real...

Speak for yourself! You never replied to the truth of the history of the Bhagavad Gita! Reality has a past (history) and you choose to deny it wholesale!

You balk at examining 1000 religions yet you NEVER DARE to examine this ONE, even though I posted a VIDEO that you can just sit back and absorb.

I posted it April 13th and I still await your educated reply, yet you still sit here and tell us you have done your "due diligence"? How can that be?

Unlike you, I have done my due diligence in searching for the correct religion... I spent 20 years researching every religion on the planet... they are all wrong in too many ways to list

Atheism is not a religion... in the same way that bald is not a hairstyle... and abstinence is not a sexual position... these are the lack thereof... very different, very simple, yet you cannot comprehend

The reason you fail to understand these very simple concepts is because religion has blinded you to the truth of reality

This doesn't matter for you. Why not? Because atheism certainly isn't the correct religion, but you stay there anyway. So, how in the world can you ever expect to have time to find the correct religion when you stick with one that you know is wrong?

Why would you need to do that? You can just watch this documentary and then discuss it with yours truly: