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Topic: Why KYC is extremely dangerous – and useless - page 8. (Read 6020 times)

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I have been wondering how possible can I ever make a KYC for cryptocurrency because that's the worst things I have ever heard from people who believed in anonymous but later turned to KYC. This action is bad and can land any individual into jail, we have heard series of hacks whereby hackers gained access to the database to stole whatever in the database. Many of these KYC done on these affected exchanges or gambling platforms stand a risk to be jail for what never happened to them per se. I hate KYC and won't encourage anyone to participate in the act.
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At first KYC was excellent but later KYC became very dangerous I even have never used KYC since the start it seemed fake to me. they struggle to hack the ID with our personal information. That's why we should always all be vigilant and keep everyone faraway from KYC.
legendary
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hmph..


So, in my previous comment about exchange companies that become a victims of their ex-employee. Now, this exchange become the first exchange removed KYC after KYC scam case (AFAIK/CMIIW). Quoted from CEO after making this decision

Quote from: Digitex Futures CEO Adam Todd
in actual fact, “No KYC is a thing of beauty.”

“We are literally going to have 10 times more users without KYC,”

Read more on this blog posts
legendary
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My appreciation for your effort in raising awareness about this big issue.
Please add the Arabic translation.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kyc-5233251
Great, many thanks for your translation!  Smiley

I've added it to the table of published translations:

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Local boardtranslated by
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Russianzasad@
FrenchPerkjeff
Filipinocrwth
Portuguesecryptobaboon
Turkishyslyv
ArabicRyutaro
Indonesianmasulum
Indiaerikalui
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Right from the beginning I never trusted KYC because i feel it's way too much, sending your identity to strangers can easily land you in big trouble and secondly many bounty projects that ask for KYC only aims for your ID so they can sell on darknet
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My appreciation for your effort in raising awareness about this big issue.
Please add the Arabic translation.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kyc-5233251
newbie
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I think that KYC is a necessary factor, because it will identify you when joining to use a certain platform. But that problem is being overused by fraudulent crypto projects. And our personal information can be sold and used for malicious purposes.
legendary
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The hindi thread has been posted here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53969133

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No KYC for altcoin / shitcoin bounties or altcoin / shitcoin airdrops where the owners are likely scammers or incompetent.
Until now many people especially those who are newbies in the Cryptocurrency, they do not even have second thought  doing KYC because they thought it's natural and nothing wrong on it.

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No KYC for shitty exchanges where the owners are likely scammers or incompetent.
This is very important you should only pick the right exchange to do KYC there are so many scam exchange now.


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No KYC for low amounts of money where it’s just not worth the risk (this probably includes everything that doesn’t make you rich)
Still wonder why people for as low as $20 are willing to sell their credentials.
legendary
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This report says if a former/ex-employee from this crypto exchange leaked 8000+ customer data, including passport, drivers license and other sensitive data.
This is a very important point. Even if you think the platform itself is reputable and trustworthy (a common argument we see regarding KYC at large exchanges such as Coinbase or Binance, even though I would argue that isn't true), how can you possibly trust every single employee of these exchanges or the third parties they outsource their KYC processes to? You have absolutely no idea who is handling your documents after you send them off

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That's good that you have kept an eye on your credit report and haven't seen anything suspicious in 2 years. The police wouldn't do anything immediately, correct, but if you are later the victim of identity theft and have pre-emptively filed a police report it makes it much easier to prove that the malicious activity wasn't you.
legendary
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At the very least you should be keeping a regular eye on your credit report, to make sure there are no unauthorized accounts, loans, cards, or applications opened in your name. I believe CIBIL is the relevant agency to contact in India. I would also consider opening a fraud alert or similar with them, and filing a report with the police. This will make it harder for anyone with your details to open accounts in your name, and it will also give you additional recourse should you become a victim of identity theft.

In terms of projects to trust, you shouldn't be taking anybody else's word for it. Campaign managers can be fooled by scams just as much as anybody else. There is no replacement to thoroughly vetting the project yourself.

I have already checked my credit score with another website which required my details and they said your credit score is not available as there are no loans taken. Police won't do anything as they did not do anything when I was scammed to and made a report. Till now I haven't found anything suspicious and it's been 1-2 years since I submitted my details. Perhaps the scammers could buy sim cards with these fake details.
legendary
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Would be intresting to know if the KYC Details from Users from the closed Exchange Tradsatoshi also be in the future get in other hands.
KYC should be only done if you trust realy the platform you are using and you trade or exchange bigger amounts.
legendary
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hmph..
I read new report related to this topic, when companies doing anything to keep their security safe from hackers, and they are is a good company, unfortunately, someone inside the organization / company can be an actor of scam KYC. This report says if a former/ex-employee from this crypto exchange leaked 8000+ customer data, including passport, drivers license and other sensitive data. Of course, this is not new case, but this exchange hacked by ex-employee two times, the first is their Facebook page and share customer email address, and yesterday happen with KYC document.

Source: https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/
legendary
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Don't know what they did with my details but it took me time to realize that just because the project is popular and managed by a trusted campaign manager, it doesn't make the project trustworthy.
At the very least you should be keeping a regular eye on your credit report, to make sure there are no unauthorized accounts, loans, cards, or applications opened in your name. I believe CIBIL is the relevant agency to contact in India. I would also consider opening a fraud alert or similar with them, and filing a report with the police. This will make it harder for anyone with your details to open accounts in your name, and it will also give you additional recourse should you become a victim of identity theft.

In terms of projects to trust, you shouldn't be taking anybody else's word for it. Campaign managers can be fooled by scams just as much as anybody else. There is no replacement to thoroughly vetting the project yourself.
legendary
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I'll do the Hindi translation as I can see till now it hasn't been translated in the Indian section.

A very helpful thread indeed. I've myself submitted KYC earlier for some projects which I considered trusted for $10k+ rewards but two of them turned scam. Don't know what they did with my details but it took me time to realize that just because the project is popular and managed by a trusted campaign manager, it doesn't make the project trustworthy. Jinbi is one such example of a scam project.
legendary
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I don't understand very well, you're putting a water mark in the middle of your documents and of your selfie... and no platform has never refused them?
As I mentioned yesterday in another thread, this achieves very little. Only huge scams like massive loans or medical insurance fraud for hundreds of thousands of dollars require people to actually show copies of their passports, driver's license, or whatever you have sent to some shady exchange. There are countless banks, credit unions, online lenders, payday loan companies, and so forth whom you can apply to online, and who will quite happily grant you a credit card or a loan if you can provide accurate details without actually seeing a copy of any identification document. The kind of petty scammers involved in fake ICOs and airdrops aren't planning some super heist - they will be attempting to rip off as many users as possible for relatively small amounts each, because there is less chance of them being caught doing that. Plastering a watermark all over your KYC uploads does little to prevent someone from taking out a few tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt in your name.
It's very disappointing, living in big countries leads to this kind of drawbacks, you have more chances to be impersonated...  Undecided
But it would be great if Kakmakr could tell us which exchanges are accepting his trick.
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All of us are afraid of losing money due to hacks, scams, our own mistakes or even bad decisions (buying useless shitcoins, selling coins too late or too early, etc). Most topics cover issues such as these. But when it comes to losses, you should be aware that there’s more than money which can be lost. By this, I’m talking about identity theft of personal data of any kind. Protecting this data and paying attention to privacy should have at least the same priority of protecting your money. After all, money is replaceable; it’s "only" a financial loss. Once identity is stolen, however, there is no chance of its undoing.]

Ever since that I started studying and doing stuffs that are related on cryptocurrencies,  I never been a fan of this Know Your Customer or KYC.  I always have doubts to give any sensitive information to the exchanges or wallets or any other cryptocurrency sites that requires its members to file a KYC form.  If is always better tk remain anonymous. That is why I prefer those that did not require KYCs. On top of that,  it's dangerous to give your personal identity specially if there are money and assets that are involved.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 18771
I don't understand very well, you're putting a water mark in the middle of your documents and of your selfie... and no platform has never refused them?
As I mentioned yesterday in another thread, this achieves very little. Only huge scams like massive loans or medical insurance fraud for hundreds of thousands of dollars require people to actually show copies of their passports, driver's license, or whatever you have sent to some shady exchange. There are countless banks, credit unions, online lenders, payday loan companies, and so forth whom you can apply to online, and who will quite happily grant you a credit card or a loan if you can provide accurate details without actually seeing a copy of any identification document. The kind of petty scammers involved in fake ICOs and airdrops aren't planning some super heist - they will be attempting to rip off as many users as possible for relatively small amounts each, because there is less chance of them being caught doing that. Plastering a watermark all over your KYC uploads does little to prevent someone from taking out a few tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt in your name.
hero member
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It was bit late for me, I did kyc for airdrop (Airdrop!!!), they never distributed tokens to hunters, when you ask about it in their tg, they block you, I calculated token price and airdrop tokens are worth $2.

I regret it, one of stupidiest thing I ever done.

I can't blame you to get fall from that schemes since they try to look appealing that's why many people same as you fall for there schemes and better next time to be more aware and never provide your KYC details especially on airdrops since they could use your identities on illegal transactions or taking a loan on certain platforms.

Be vigilant next time and this is lesson learned.
hero member
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It was bit late for me, I did kyc for airdrop (Airdrop!!!), they never distributed tokens to hunters, when you ask about it in their tg, they block you, I calculated token price and airdrop tokens are worth $2.

I regret it, one of stupidiest thing I ever done.
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