Why Mark Zuckerberg wants no privacy - page 2.

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Quote from: darklus123 on April 18, 2019, 07:23:31 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 18, 2019, 06:21:17 AM

I don't think a person's exact name or part of it should ever be the email. If a company did require that then you can misspell or abbreviate a part of it in a way you never do personally. Then at least you can tell where incoming spam bought or stole its info.

The days of being proud and excited to own [email protected] are long gone....

You can do misspell your name in your email if you are the one making it. I don't personally know how things works in your place but in my place usually if we got a job ("officebased") or even some "remotebased". They are the one responsible for creating your own email and yes having marysmith@company still existing in the industry. They even put all your details on your google or microsoft account.

That is a world I am not in....

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Quote from: Spendulus on April 18, 2019, 06:21:17 AM

I don't think a person's exact name or part of it should ever be the email. If a company did require that then you can misspell or abbreviate a part of it in a way you never do personally. Then at least you can tell where incoming spam bought or stole its info.

The days of being proud and excited to own [email protected] are long gone....

You can do misspell your name in your email if you are the one making it. I don't personally know how things works in your place but in my place usually if we got a job ("officebased") or even some "remotebased". They are the one responsible for creating your own email and yes having marysmith@company still existing in the industry. They even put all your details on your google or microsoft account.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on April 18, 2019, 03:02:33 PM

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-18/facebook-quietly-notifies-public-millions-instagram-users-had-passwords-exposed

The Facebook source said the investigation so far indicates between 200 million and 600 million Facebook users may have had their account passwords stored in plain text and searchable by more than 20,000 Facebook employees. The source said Facebook is still trying to determine how many passwords were exposed and for how long, but so far the inquiry has uncovered archives with plain text user passwords dating back to 2012.

What's not explicitly stated is the simple fact that if passwords were stored in plain text, and if they were accessible to 20,000 employees, there was a reason. Because it's extremely easy, and an option in most programs that enable login, to store an encrypted hash. In that case the user's login works, but the employees cannot access it or the account it references.

Seriously, this is 1990s level stupid.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-18/facebook-quietly-notifies-public-millions-instagram-users-had-passwords-exposed

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Google Employees Demand Management Respect Their Prejudices Against Conservatives and Climate Skeptics

When Google announced an external advisory board for AI projects last week, the company framed the decision as a step forward in accountability. Last year, the company had announced a set of principles for how to build AI tools, and this board, the company suggested, was the next step toward a more transparent Google.

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But some members of the new board drew immediate scrutiny, especially Kay Coles James, president of the conservative Heritage Foundation. On social media, some characterized the decision as an attempt to cater to conservatives at the expense of true expertise in the field. By Saturday, one AI expert who was invited to the board had dropped out, vaguely noting that it may not be “the right forum” for the work.

Privately, several Google employees were also livid about the decision to include James, according to sources familiar with the discussions. On internal message boards, employees described James as “intolerant” and the Heritage Foundation as “amazingly wrong” in their policies on topics like climate change, immigration, and, particularly, on issues of LGBTQ equality. A person with James’ views, the employees said, “doesn’t deserve a Google-legitimized platform, and certainly doesn’t belong in any conversation about how Google tech should be applied to the world.”

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By the end of the day on Tuesday, more than 1,600 Google employees had endorsed the petition, organizers said. Google did not respond to a request for comment.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/04/google-employees-demand-management-respect-their-prejudices-against-conservatives-and-climate-skeptics/

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Quote from: darklus123 on April 17, 2019, 11:26:19 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 17, 2019, 09:55:17 PM

So don't use chrome, and use duckgogo instead of google.

Don't hand out "Google ID" to any apps that ask for it.

Again, this isn't just a manageable problem but it's extremely important to manage it.

I still use chrome it's more convenient ,isn't it? ....

No.

Quote from: darklus123 on April 17, 2019, 11:26:19 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on April 17, 2019, 09:55:17 PM

So don't use chrome, and use duckgogo instead of google.

Don't hand out "Google ID" to any apps that ask for it.

Again, this isn't just a manageable problem but it's extremely important to manage it.

...But when it comes to having a personal email I don't have choice but to atleast give my full name.

It is so hard to managed especially when you are going to need those for work related.

I don't think a person's exact name or part of it should ever be the email. If a company did require that then you can misspell or abbreviate a part of it in a way you never do personally. Then at least you can tell where incoming spam bought or stole its info.

The days of being proud and excited to own [email protected] are long gone....

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Quote from: Spendulus on April 17, 2019, 09:55:17 PM

So don't use chrome, and use duckgogo instead of google.

Don't hand out "Google ID" to any apps that ask for it.

Again, this isn't just a manageable problem but it's extremely important to manage it.

I still use chrome it's more convenient ,isn't it? As you have said tho we should have to be more careful. What I usually do is to not provide my personal info or an "ALIAS". But when it comes to having a personal email I don't have choice but to atleast give my full name.

It is so hard to managed especially when you are going to need those for work related.

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Quote from: darklus123 on April 17, 2019, 08:16:49 PM

Why would Mark cares? It is all about numbers and in fact he is just following the footsteps of google. You should have to be more careful with dealing in google services. If the social media platform earns from marketing we don't know how google thinks towards it's data.

Google data are more beneficial to spying.

So don't use chrome, and use duckgogo instead of google.

Don't hand out "Google ID" to any apps that ask for it.

Again, this isn't just a manageable problem but it's extremely important to manage it.

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Why would Mark cares? It is all about numbers and in fact he is just following the footsteps of google. You should have to be more careful with dealing in google services. If the social media platform earns from marketing we don't know how google thinks towards it's data.

Google data are more beneficial to spying.

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Quote from: Spendulus on April 17, 2019, 07:59:59 AM

Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on April 15, 2019, 04:39:24 AM

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We can try to give them the middle finger by switching platforms but at this point they've already become large enough to buy up or outright destroy competing startups. And they already have our data anyway.

There is no cause for hopelessness.

As an example, suppose you dl an app to your phone, it wants you to set up an account using your facebook (or google) login before it activates.

You would be giving your FB info to some totally unknown small company. Regardless of how evil FB is, this is still a step not to take.

Many, many examples like this exist.

I share the same mentality. I am not naive enough to think they will not get my information, because no matter what I do I have friends, family, or associates who use those products and feed them my personal details without my permission or knowledge regardless of all their little subplatforms. The way I see it I can at least not submit my consent to these groups and make sure they get slightly less detailed information while at least knowing personally I never willingly went along with their systems.

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on April 15, 2019, 04:39:24 AM

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We can try to give them the middle finger by switching platforms but at this point they've already become large enough to buy up or outright destroy competing startups. And they already have our data anyway.

There is no cause for hopelessness.

As an example, suppose you dl an app to your phone, it wants you to set up an account using your facebook (or google) login before it activates.

You would be giving your FB info to some totally unknown small company. Regardless of how evil FB is, this is still a step not to take.

Many, many examples like this exist.

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on April 15, 2019, 04:39:24 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on April 13, 2019, 02:35:12 AM

Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on April 13, 2019, 01:22:10 AM

Seriously, FB is being marketed as a privacy watchdog now? Grin

Quote from: Spendulus on March 23, 2019, 09:14:28 AM

Quote from: sheenshane on March 23, 2019, 12:59:23 AM

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This is how they continue to operate. People refuse to acknowledge how much power they give these companies because it is too terrifying to even look at objectively, so they choose to ignore it and go back to their Facefucks, Twatters, and Googlags feeding them more and more as they bury their heads in the sand.

If the product is free, you likely are the product. If only it's all innocuous as Target sending you a coupon for a crib coz they predicted through you buying pattern that you likely are pregnant. But it's not, as that Cambridge Analytica scandal has shown.

We can try to give them the middle finger by switching platforms but at this point they've already become large enough to buy up or outright destroy competing startups. And they already have our data anyway.

Couldn't have said it better "if the product is free, you're likely the product'

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Quote from: TECSHARE on April 13, 2019, 02:35:12 AM

Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on April 13, 2019, 01:22:10 AM

Seriously, FB is being marketed as a privacy watchdog now? Grin

Quote from: Spendulus on March 23, 2019, 09:14:28 AM

Quote from: sheenshane on March 23, 2019, 12:59:23 AM

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This is how they continue to operate. People refuse to acknowledge how much power they give these companies because it is too terrifying to even look at objectively, so they choose to ignore it and go back to their Facefucks, Twatters, and Googlags feeding them more and more as they bury their heads in the sand.

If the product is free, you likely are the product. If only it's all innocuous as Target sending you a coupon for a crib coz they predicted through you buying pattern that you likely are pregnant. But it's not, as that Cambridge Analytica scandal has shown.

We can try to give them the middle finger by switching platforms but at this point they've already become large enough to buy up or outright destroy competing startups. And they already have our data anyway.

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Downloading My Private Google Data, this is what I found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLjht9uJWgw

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I think everything is a game of words that are beautiful to never be fulfilled, I think it is a hoax and that everything is part of a plan where the main thing is to decipher the anonymity in which many people exercise their full right to do so. I do not think that initiative will go very far and if it is fulfilled I think some will no longer use these networks. I think that nothing is safe, today everything is very easy to decipher if you have the right computer tools, everything is traceable, except for those who know the art of disappearance without a trace on the web.

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on April 13, 2019, 01:22:10 AM

Seriously, FB is being marketed as a privacy watchdog now? Grin

Quote from: Spendulus on March 23, 2019, 09:14:28 AM

Quote from: sheenshane on March 23, 2019, 12:59:23 AM

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There's a big difference between Marketing and Spying.....

Not after Spying became a necessary and profitable tool for Marketing.

...I remember reading a book (I believe the title is Numerati) where a father complained that they started receiving pamphlets for baby care products but then later sent the store an apology letter. It turns out their algorithm correctly predicted the daughter is pregnant - even before she found out!...

Who says this lame story pushed by a Fuckbook lawyer paid to protect Fuckbook should be believe for one microsecond?

This is the kind of BS that has to be instantly DISBELIEVED.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on April 13, 2019, 09:56:32 AM

Quote from: talkbits on April 13, 2019, 04:27:49 AM

How can you say that Mark Zuckerberg wont like privacy?

Data protection should always be implemented. However, it is really hard to let a person keep it if you don't trust them. Mark Zuckerberg is a great person....

There is no need to say things like this, for which there is no basis.

We are discussing a subject, the direction of which indicates directly that he is a very evil person.

Face it.

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Quote from: talkbits on April 13, 2019, 04:27:49 AM

How can you say that Mark Zuckerberg wont like privacy?

Data protection should always be implemented. However, it is really hard to let a person keep it if you don't trust them. Mark Zuckerberg is a great person, a simple one but we won't even know who are the people he is with today. Even though the CEO is the best one to trust, we also have to mind the people behind his operations.

Mark Zuckerberg's founded company Facebook has made a critical decision yesterday with nominating Peggy Alford to join their board. Peggy has deep experience in many areas related to commerce and will also be a person who could solve this privacy issue. Facebook became the largest social media platform globally and the government is looking for something that they can see as a loophole to find a vulnerable spot and attack.

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How can you say that Mark Zuckerberg wont like privacy?

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Quote from: TheCoinGrabber on April 13, 2019, 01:22:10 AM

Seriously, FB is being marketed as a privacy watchdog now? Grin

Quote from: Spendulus on March 23, 2019, 09:14:28 AM

Quote from: sheenshane on March 23, 2019, 12:59:23 AM

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There's a big difference between Marketing and Spying.....

Not after Spying became a necessary and profitable tool for Marketing.

Even without snooping, the amount of data they can legitimately look into and aggregate gives them so much insight into our patterns. It's not about Facebook but a grocery chain but I remember reading a book (I believe the title is Numerati) where a father complained that they started receiving pamphlets for baby care products but then later sent the store an apology letter. It turns out their algorithm correctly predicted the daughter is pregnant - even before she found out! Just imagine how much more data FB have access to.

This is how they continue to operate. People refuse to acknowledge how much power they give these companies because it is too terrifying to even look at objectively, so they choose to ignore it and go back to their Facefucks, Twatters, and Googlags feeding them more and more as they bury their heads in the sand.

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