Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that?

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Quote from: haseeb ahmed on May 21, 2019, 11:25:43 AM

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Quote from: haseeb ahmed on May 11, 2019, 05:54:10 AM

the West promotes tolerance in their society only and spreading hate and war in other regions of world. You are exploiting Africans from years and using their resources and when they raise their voice against you people you call them intolerant and same is happening in different oil rich countries. What about venezuela North Korea, kim jong is extremist ?

"The West" is not protected from criticism. "The West" does not wag their finger at you telling you that you are Westophobic when you criticize its flaws. "The West" doesn't throw people off of roof tops for being gay, or stone women for being unfaithful. "The West" does not seek to kill people who abandon its Western values. "The West" is not a religion. I assume you are Arab based on your name, excuse me if I am wrong there, but as an Arab you have some cantaloupe sized balls talking to a Westernerer about exploiting Africans. Do you have any knowledge of the ancient (and modern) slave trade run by Islam out of Africa? Every crime you point at the West for Islam has 3 more skeletons in its own closet it is trying to hide. Perhaps instead of pointing your finger out and making excuses you should start looking inward, because the excuses and "whataboutisms" aren't enough any more.

because the West is not a religion, or a belief have no followers. And islam is a religion with over a billion followers and you stereotype all because of few that’s why we hate this freedom of speech and stops world from criticising islam

Islam's ideology will always be criticized because it does not belong in the 21st century. Nevermind its supernatural claims.

The year is 2019, not 719. Women and men regardless of their sexual preferences have equal rights. Slavery has been abolished.
Women can vote and wear whatever they want. Adultery is legal, so is drinking of alcohol.

Muslims have been terrorized by Islam. You guys are afraid of your own bullshit. You cannot criticize Islam, you cannot even draw the main characters from your 'holy' book. You live under a religious dictatorship. You are afraid what your family or friends will think of you if you even doubt the bullshit in the Quran. Islam has you by your balls. You are a prisoner of your religion.

In short, you are fucked up. So is your religion.

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^^^ In other words, should we post something like "Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists?"

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Quote from: Tsunade69 on March 28, 2019, 09:11:54 AM

Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? Cry

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The problem with this thread is it attempts to define what people should or should not say.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 25, 2019, 03:14:36 AM

I have being to Arab countries and you will be shocked that they will force everyone to follow their routines which is absurd and when they come over to western countries they want to force us to follow their stupid ideology which is crazy, if they cannot tolerate the freedom we have and wants to restrict everyone even after coming into our part of the world, they should just move out of the country and settle in Islamic countries.

I have being to UAE which is a liberal country when you compare with the rest of the Arab nations even there you are not allowed to eat in public during Ramadan and the hotels and restaurants will be closed for everyone and if a liberal country like UAE have these restriction i cannot imagine how things will be in the rest of the Arab nations.
With the recent migrations to Europe and other countries like Canada, things are not that great as i have seen personally how these have impacted the entire region, their motto throughout history is to conquer and take over and i would not be surprised if we see Canada as a Islamic country hundred years from now Grin

. I will not call every Muslims as terrorists but majority of them have extreme ideology which is not fit for a peaceful environment.

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Quote from: af_newbie on May 24, 2019, 10:27:31 PM

Islam's ideology will always be criticized because it does not belong in the 21st century. Nevermind its supernatural claims.

I will include every religion in this category because of their supernatural claims and it does not belong in the 21st century and i stand by it. The problem with Islam as a religion is that they carefully follow the century old believes which is not relevant in 2019.

Quote from: af_newbie on May 24, 2019, 10:27:31 PM

The year is 2019, not 719. Women and men regardless of their sexual preferences have equal rights. Slavery has been abolished.
Women can vote and wear whatever they want. Adultery is legal, so is drinking of alcohol.

Muslims have been terrorized by Islam. You guys are afraid of your own bullshit. You cannot criticize Islam, you cannot even draw the main characters from your 'holy' book. You live under a religious dictatorship. You are afraid what your family or friends will think of you if you even doubt the bullshit in the Quran. Islam has you by your balls. You are a prisoner of your religion.

In short, you are fucked up. So is your religion.

I have being to Arab countries and you will be shocked that they will force everyone to follow their routines which is absurd and when they come over to western countries they want to force us to follow their stupid ideology which is crazy, if they cannot tolerate the freedom we have and wants to restrict everyone even after coming into our part of the world, they should just move out of the country and settle in Islamic countries.

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Quote from: Woodie on May 23, 2019, 11:19:31 AM

Quote from: Tsunade69 on March 28, 2019, 09:11:54 AM

Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that?
what do you think?

I don't think they are, except from a few radicals. I would like to point people in the direction where all this terror labeling all starts from:

the action movies we watch today usually paint a bad image about these people
news, media houses do more damage by acting bais on what to report...depending on who is involved
lack of information, religious speculation...all this if not handled well leads to fingerr pointing.

Is a "radical" simply someone who kils people or sets off explosives? How about if he's in favor of implementing shaira law in the western country he moved to. How about if he's for killing atheists and gays. Not now of course. But later, when sharia law is implemented. How about if this same person considers anyone who raises questions regarding islamic beliefs to be "islamophobic"? And to be shouted down (if not physically attacked).

You may not consider him a radical. Ok. But, if you were a secular person living in a western country, why on earth would you welcome him into your country?

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^^^ Right! Most Muslims aren't terrorists, although they could be called on by their religion to become terrorists on a moments's notice, and you never know.

The thing that Muslims is, is ignorant of the inherent violence in Islam. The question is, if they knew, would they remain Muslims?

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Quote from: Tsunade69 on March 28, 2019, 09:11:54 AM

Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that?
what do you think?

I don't think they are, except from a few radicals. I would like to point people in the direction where all this terror labeling all starts from:

the action movies we watch today usually paint a bad image about these people
news, media houses do more damage by acting bais on what to report...depending on who is involved
lack of information, religious speculation...all this if not handled well leads to fingerr pointing.

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Quote from: MidKnight on May 22, 2019, 09:24:41 PM

Quote from: Tsunade69 on March 28, 2019, 09:11:54 AM

what do you think?

....suicide bombing is the signature of Muslims....

Any Muslims that disagree can certainly speak up.

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Quote from: Tsunade69 on March 28, 2019, 09:11:54 AM

Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? Cry

I think there is always a scapegoat in the community.

Who is the most violent perpetrator of the massacre? Who?

I Think "" Hitler "!!! He persecuted 6 million Jews. With that we blame the Christians for that ?, Hitler, He's Christian ,so because he persecutes the Jews, it does not mean all Christians are like that.

Then , How about Muslims? are they all terrorists? Are there organizations that want to create a " Muslims Phobia" ?
It is inappropriate for us fellow humans to hate and kill each other.

what do you think?

I'm far from being a racist, I have friends of any kind of nationality etc....

But a fact is, @this moment most people that commit acts of terrorism are muslims, of course many of them are mis guided all of there lives and I believe many of them really think they do good ... Then again in every nationality or belief there will be good and bad people, and those that brainwashes some poor muslims and make them belief there own belief in a wrong way is just disgusting.

Also the retaliation of hate is always misplaced like the NZ killing is awful and also never to justify.....
Hitler is a long passed human that shouldn't had exist but he did! The people that now wanna walk with hitler crosses on their body and believing he was a good man and that he did everything right is just so wrong, I hate nazi's or nazi thinking people.

Man maybe i'm not completely right as well, but for me its already difficult to kill a bug or spider or whatever, when something like that is in my house I just catch it and put it outside Roll Eyes

, but killing another human would be something i'm not able to.

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Quote from: Tsunade69 on March 28, 2019, 09:11:54 AM

Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? Cry

I think there is always a scapegoat in the community.

Who is the most violent perpetrator of the massacre? Who?

I Think "" Hitler "!!! He persecuted 6 million Jews. With that we blame the Christians for that ?, Hitler, He's Christian ,so because he persecutes the Jews, it does not mean all Christians are like that.

Then , How about Muslims? are they all terrorists? Are there organizations that want to create a " Muslims Phobia" ?
It is inappropriate for us fellow humans to hate and kill each other.

what do you think?

Perhaps, it is the way on how extreme these Muslims do terrorist acts? Because suicide bombing is the signature of Muslims and it is very to counter unlike other terrorist that only use guns and other weapons where authorities can find a way to fight back and negotiate. That suicide bombing is very unique that many people around the world will only think of Muslims can only do that.

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Religion is one of the source that'll be used quite often by the politicians to keep the common people separated from each other which gives them the comfort of ruling and deviating the focus of common people towards simple issues when something big is getting around the country. This way it is the political people who term Muslims as terrorists for their sake and they tend to spread it which is the truth with it.

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Quote from: jak3 on May 22, 2019, 08:40:09 AM

I do not hate Muslims. not every human being is bad right. even I have committed many crimes like when I was a kid maybe I also stole some candies from a shop. it's just your point of view of how you see a situation. some people will say they were bad and some will say they are not. but does it really changes something? even if they are bad are you doing anything to change them. are you there to teach them what the correct path is? no, you are just spreading some rumors which you heard from others.

Looks to me like numerous people here would teach them the correct path.

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religion is the biggest perpetrator of massacre/genocide in the history. but in this modern era Muslims
seems to be the largest group of believer that has caused a large scale terror around the world thus getting the name of
"Muslims are terrorist" in this modern times. not everyone hates Muslims what they hate is the teachings of sharia law
which known world wide for being an oppressive and extremist law.

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Quote from: jak3 on May 22, 2019, 08:40:09 AM

I do not hate Muslims. not every human being is bad right. even I have committed many crimes like when I was a kid maybe I also stole some candies from a shop. it's just your point of view of how you see a situation. some people will say they were bad and some will say they are not. but does it really changes something? even if they are bad are you doing anything to change them. are you there to teach them what the correct path is? no, you are just spreading some rumors which you heard from others.

rapegangs/stonings/beheading apostates > stealing candies

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^^^ No it's not just someone's point of view.

When you were a kid, and stole some candy, did you have a religion that was telling you to steal?

Islam is a religion that tells Muslims to be terrorist - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

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I do not hate Muslims. not every human being is bad right. even I have committed many crimes like when I was a kid maybe I also stole some candies from a shop. it's just your point of view of how you see a situation. some people will say they were bad and some will say they are not. but does it really changes something? even if they are bad are you doing anything to change them. are you there to teach them what the correct path is? no, you are just spreading some rumors which you heard from others.

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Quote from: haseeb ahmed on May 21, 2019, 11:25:43 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on May 11, 2019, 08:26:54 AM

Quote from: haseeb ahmed on May 11, 2019, 05:54:10 AM

the West promotes tolerance in their society only and spreading hate and war in other regions of world. You are exploiting Africans from years and using their resources and when they raise their voice against you people you call them intolerant and same is happening in different oil rich countries. What about venezuela North Korea, kim jong is extremist ?

"The West" is not protected from criticism. "The West" does not wag their finger at you telling you that you are Westophobic when you criticize its flaws. "The West" doesn't throw people off of roof tops for being gay, or stone women for being unfaithful. "The West" does not seek to kill people who abandon its Western values. "The West" is not a religion. I assume you are Arab based on your name, excuse me if I am wrong there, but as an Arab you have some cantaloupe sized balls talking to a Westernerer about exploiting Africans. Do you have any knowledge of the ancient (and modern) slave trade run by Islam out of Africa? Every crime you point at the West for Islam has 3 more skeletons in its own closet it is trying to hide. Perhaps instead of pointing your finger out and making excuses you should start looking inward, because the excuses and "whataboutisms" aren't enough any more.

because the West is not a religion, or a belief have no followers. And islam is a religion with over a billion followers and you stereotype all because of few that’s why we hate this freedom of speech and stops world from criticising islam

If only you were correct. A large percent of Muslims have no problem with dealing very harshly with apostates. The Koran and hadith are very clear on how to deal with atheists and other non-believers.

The problem with Islam is not that Muslims chose not to eat pork or things like that - it's their insistence that non-believers conform to their ways. Where are the Muslims that say that non-believers can be gay, or be atheist, or eat pork or wear revealing clothes to their heart's content?

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Quote from: haseeb ahmed on May 21, 2019, 11:25:43 AM

Quote from: TECSHARE on May 11, 2019, 08:26:54 AM

Quote from: haseeb ahmed on May 11, 2019, 05:54:10 AM

the West promotes tolerance in their society only and spreading hate and war in other regions of world. You are exploiting Africans from years and using their resources and when they raise their voice against you people you call them intolerant and same is happening in different oil rich countries. What about venezuela North Korea, kim jong is extremist ?

"The West" is not protected from criticism. "The West" does not wag their finger at you telling you that you are Westophobic when you criticize its flaws. "The West" doesn't throw people off of roof tops for being gay, or stone women for being unfaithful. "The West" does not seek to kill people who abandon its Western values. "The West" is not a religion. I assume you are Arab based on your name, excuse me if I am wrong there, but as an Arab you have some cantaloupe sized balls talking to a Westernerer about exploiting Africans. Do you have any knowledge of the ancient (and modern) slave trade run by Islam out of Africa? Every crime you point at the West for Islam has 3 more skeletons in its own closet it is trying to hide. Perhaps instead of pointing your finger out and making excuses you should start looking inward, because the excuses and "whataboutisms" aren't enough any more.

because the West is not a religion, or a belief have no followers. And islam is a religion with over a billion followers and you stereotype all because of few that’s why we hate this freedom of speech and stops world from criticising islam

Now you are just going full circle and just repeating yourself. All other religions are free to be criticized. Islam doesn't get a special pass to be free of criticism, and it has plenty to criticize about it. Stop pointing at outsiders and fix YOUR culture. Or just sit back and pretend you are superior to everyone on Earth and see how that works out for all of you. Don't be surprised then when the West rejects Muslims as a whole regardless of how much of a "minority" of "individuals" are to blame. You demand tolerance of the West but Islam is one of the most intolerant supremacist ideologies on Earth.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on May 11, 2019, 08:26:54 AM

Quote from: haseeb ahmed on May 11, 2019, 05:54:10 AM

the West promotes tolerance in their society only and spreading hate and war in other regions of world. You are exploiting Africans from years and using their resources and when they raise their voice against you people you call them intolerant and same is happening in different oil rich countries. What about venezuela North Korea, kim jong is extremist ?

"The West" is not protected from criticism. "The West" does not wag their finger at you telling you that you are Westophobic when you criticize its flaws. "The West" doesn't throw people off of roof tops for being gay, or stone women for being unfaithful. "The West" does not seek to kill people who abandon its Western values. "The West" is not a religion. I assume you are Arab based on your name, excuse me if I am wrong there, but as an Arab you have some cantaloupe sized balls talking to a Westernerer about exploiting Africans. Do you have any knowledge of the ancient (and modern) slave trade run by Islam out of Africa? Every crime you point at the West for Islam has 3 more skeletons in its own closet it is trying to hide. Perhaps instead of pointing your finger out and making excuses you should start looking inward, because the excuses and "whataboutisms" aren't enough any more.

because the West is not a religion, or a belief have no followers. And islam is a religion with over a billion followers and you stereotype all because of few that’s why we hate this freedom of speech and stops world from criticising islam

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