Topic: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? - page 3. (Read 1715 times)

Yes, good.

When you get the feel for the reason why the people imposed kami on the emperor, it was so that they had contact with the gods in a form that they could deal with, so they could get god-miracles from the emperor. A wise emperor, just to remain alive, had to outsmart the people.

In what way did the emperor have to outsmart the people? Since the people were expecting miracles from the gods through the emperor, he had to be able to do these miracles, or possibly die at their hands in a revolt. But nobody can really do miracles. So, he had to be shrewd with the people to make them think that the miracles were being done, or to become a magician in front of the people (all the hocus-pocus ceremony), or to mount an army big enough to put down any rebellion (without the people realizing that the army was to be used against them if necessary), or to trick the people into being politically against each other so that the focus was off the emperor, or any combination of these things.

And this is exactly what many governments do to their people all the time - including the USA government to its people. But the Islam government is one of the biggest in these areas. It's the way that it holds the people as an army to use against the world or against themselves, when necessary.

Japanese government is traditionally similar to the Chinese government in many basic ways. Japan came from China ages ago. So, they are simply an offshoot of what China has done for ages. And look at the size of China.

Compare China's size with Islam's size. It all has to do with treachery built into the government by the people asking for emperors who are gods. In the case of Islam, it is simply the fact of making their government to be a religion, as well as a government, so that they don't have to appoint an emporer. This makes Islam able to be more straight forward in their conquest... no direct emperor to piddle with.

Islam >>> a government religion of war and conquest, right in its own writings - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

Maybe this statement relies to the fact that there is an Islamic state, DAESH, which they kill people in the name of their God.
This makes people insert a whole religion and the people who believe in this religion.
It is not correct to say that because Muslims doesn't kill people, Islamic fighters do.

Arguably the Japanese side of WWII may be considered a religious war. This is often overlooked and the concepts are somewhat confusing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/shinto/history/emperor_1.shtml

Divinity of the Emperor

Many cultures have attributed divinity or significant spiritual gifts to their rulers. The rulers of ancient Egypt and Rome were treated as gods, and medieval kings (including England's Henry VI) were regarded as having the ability to cure diseases with the royal touch.

The Japanese concept of the divinity of the Emperor is often misunderstood by Westerners. Neither the Emperor nor most of his people ever thought that the Emperor was a God in the sense of being a supernatural supreme being.

From the 6th century onwards it was accepted that the Emperor was descended from the kami (in this context gods), was in contact with them, and often inspired by them.

This didn't make him a god himself, but rather imposed on him the obligation of carrying out certain rituals and devotions in order to ensure that the kami looked after Japan properly and ensured its prosperity.

Yes that is EXACTLY what freedom of speech means, and this is exactly why Islam is not compatible with Western values or freedom in general. Islam is a globalist totalitarian supremacist political system under the guise of a religion. Even if 10% of Muslims are extremists, that is still 200 million radical Islamists committing acts of terror and violence. That number is unrealistically low as evidenced by these stats as well as many others. Shariah law is not compatible with freedom, period.

As far as WW2, last I checked this was not a religious war, and Hitler and the Nazis were not particularly fond of Christians either. He did however get along quite well with Islam. Islam needs to clean its own house, because the West is waking up to the taqiyya and if you refuse to clean your own house we will do it for you on our terms not yours.

History shows how tolerant Christianity is, until one day they are oppressed too much, then they will spend every waking moment dedicated to obliterating their enemies. No one wants that. Stop pretending Islam does not have a problem, because the world knows it does, and either the real true Muslims can work to repair it or wait until the world starts striking back without mercy. If the only thing Islam respects is strength then their cups will overflow with it until they are washed away in a torrent of blood. The times for making excuses for Islam has passed. The time for reformation is now. I want people to have freedom of religion and to worship God how they choose, I will not however stand silent while this vile violent supremacist ideology is given the protective cloak of religion to protect it from criticism. Islam itself deserves criticism.

^^^ Besides that, nobody is blaming the ignorant-about-their-own-religion Muslims for terrorism they didn't do. What they are being blamed for is the threat that they are to the world wherever they travel. Of course, the same threat exists for themselves if they accidentally don't obey the letter of their own holy writings, and some cleric wants to be strict with them.

Being a Muslim is a threat, because any Muslim can be called upon to kill any non-Muslim, or any backsliding Muslim, at any time, even if he doesn't know this is the case - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

It may not be likable, but yes, freedom of speech means exactly that...


Perhaps half of the WW2 deaths were due to Japanese aggression, which bears numerous similarities to Islamic extremism.

Certainly you can and should blame the whole population, and Germany, because it was the country as a whole that went to war.  It was Germany that we fought, not Hitler. It was Japan and it's people that fought in other lands to enslave them. Not the Emperor.

Duhh...

Now, does Islam seek to establish a world wide caliphate, or does it not?

Freedom of speech does not mean one can play with the sentiments of others or to pass remarks which can hurt there. There are around 2 billion Muslims living in this world and world is blaming 2 billion people because of few extremists and oppressors. Around 70 to 80 million people died in world war 2 just because of single person "Hitler" so should we blame Christianity or Germany for this, obviously no because you can not generalize whole population.

Yes, they certainly can be good or bad by themselves. For example, a "holy book" that had an important clause which could be "interpreted differently" would not be quite so holy, would it?


As I recall the 30 some pamplets/commentaries/interpretations of the Koran by the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, Sayyid Qutb, say pretty much exactly that.

Qutb was the guy Bid Laden learned from and studied under.

Please don't try to create moral equivalences to rationalize this behavior.

Those terrorists don't even care about their religion and go about killing anyone thinking they will get God's blessings. They rape, murder, torture and trade women saying that God wants them to do so and which holy book says that? None. So basically they are brainwashed by some preacher and do anything/everything their leader tells them to do. It's just that maximum of these terrorists happen to be Muslims but it's not the entire religion. Here in India when the British played their divide and rule, they played the religion card and got the two religions to rip apart the other. What should those Britishers be called then?

I agree with you.
Holy books or religions are not good or bad by itself.
People are the ones who interpret the meaning of holy books and people influence others to do good or evil.
We have radical groups in every religion but Islam is different because some countries stand behind that religion and do not allow the contrary or different opinions.
People there are not entitled to their own understanding of faith but must follow what the state decides.
For that reason Islam is dangerous.

Christian persecution 'at near genocide levels' https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305

^^^ Of course, we could just let the Muslim religious writings interpret themselves... and arm ourselves against Muslims.

Unfortunately, the radical Muslim tends to do some unnecessary doings just to promote in the Name of Allah.
But I think this happen to all religions also, there are cult which they thought that they follow the right way base on should we say bible or any scriptures. This terrorist group are the radical Muslims  in which they interpreted Quran differently. Its all about the interpretations.

I have no problem with throwing a net of suspicion, and careful examination, over all those who attend mosques where radical clerics "teach."

^^^ But consider. Is a person part of his own religion if he doesn't do what his religion says? What if he doesn't know what his religion says?

Essentially, Islam says that Muslims are supposed to be good to all people.

Islam says that Muslims are supposed to be good to all Muslims all the time.

Islam says that Muslims should punish and execute backsliding Muslims who won't change back.

Islam says that Muslims can treat all non-Muslims any way they want, to get non-Muslims to convert to Islam... but to execute them if they don't convert.


Does the above make Muslims terrorists or not?

Just because a Muslim doesn't know he is a terrorist, does this keep him from being a terrorist?

Islam = terrorism to non-Muslims, if they won't convert to Islam. It's in their writings. The writings seem to contradict themselves when they talk about peace and violence, until we realize that the peace is only for other Muslims, but the violence is for the non-Muslims.

Is there a sincerely peaceful Muslim? There might be. But any Muslim who is sincerely peaceful, upright and honest toward non-Muslims is a borderline Islam heretic... if not an outright heretic.

What is a sincerely peaceful Muslim going to do when he is called on by his religion to be violent? Is he going to change religion? Or is he going to become violent?


How can anyone know what you really are if you say you are a peaceful Muslim? Islam is treachery to non-Muslims, and terrorism to non-Muslims who won't convert. Even if you don't know it, if you are truly a Muslim, you are a terrorist towards all non-Muslims.

I don't care what people think or say I live in a democratic country where everyone has the rights to say and think whatever they want. I don't think every Muslims are terrorists, in fact, I will say not everyone is good or bad. it's always some mixture of bad and good. if someone decided to become a terrorist it can be anyone so why only blame Muslims. maybe because most terrorists are from there or their maybe high bad peoples there but there are many good people too. there are many schools, shops, foodies and many more.

Except Stalin existed in a time where it was accepted that mass slaughter of populations was unacceptable, these other cultures existed in a time where that was the way of the world everywhere. You don't know shit about history, you just vomit up the cherry picked tidbits of sputum that some other Communist hand fed to you to regurgitate on command. The rest of the world has left the middle ages, not Islam. Also, if everyone is permanently victimized, then what is the point of pushing your ideology based upon victim status?

If you make a joke on Christ, a Christian would laugh with you. The same thing happens to most of other religion except of course Islam. Muslims are brainwashed and they are hesitant to realise that their god is fake as all other gods.

Well, yes probably. It's actually discrimination and this kind of cancerous behavior is not avoidable. Not all of the people are born and raised well just like us. They tend to tell anything they want to tell and will stay being insensitive. Once the herd notices someone that is different, they will do their best to make that person feel that he does not belong to the group.

In this case, Christians are too many and Muslims are different. However, if you are a disciplined person then you just have to respect.

^^^ Then Genghis Khan came along and messed it up for both sides. He was a religiously tolerant shamanist. But he exemplified what the Islamists were really after... the stealing of the property of others.