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Topic: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that? - page 2. (Read 1759 times)

legendary
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the West promotes tolerance in their society only and spreading hate and war in other regions of world. You are exploiting Africans from years and using their resources and when they raise their voice against you people you call them intolerant and same is happening in different oil rich countries. What about venezuela North Korea, kim jong is extremist ?

"The West" is not protected from criticism. "The West" does not wag their finger at you telling you that you are Westophobic when you criticize its flaws. "The West" doesn't throw people off of roof tops for being gay, or stone women for being unfaithful. "The West" does not seek to kill people who abandon its Western values. "The West" is not a religion. I assume you are Arab based on your name, excuse me if I am wrong there, but as an Arab you have some cantaloupe sized balls talking to a Westernerer about exploiting Africans. Do you have any knowledge of the ancient (and modern) slave trade run by Islam out of Africa? Every crime you point at the West for Islam has 3 more skeletons in its own closet it is trying to hide. Perhaps instead of pointing your finger out and making excuses you should start looking inward, because the excuses and "whataboutisms" aren't enough any more.

Very well said. Especially the opening statement that ""The West" is not protected from criticism."

The West doesn't have to be protected from criticism. Why not? Because criticism doesn't harm anyone. In fact, it often helps those who are being criticized.

But if you criticize a Muslim, he's oh-so-hurt that he goes out and throws people off roof-tops, stones women for being unfaithful, kills Muslims who abandon the faith, ignores all the past harm that Islam has done, and seeks to undermine the values of other countries and religions.

Oh the pain of some sound vibrations in the air. They hurt and harm Muslims so badly that they have to be returned in full. LOL! So those greatly harmed Muslim, who just can't take a little talk against them, go out and kill and maim and threaten to do damage, just because a little sound hurt them soooo badly.

Do you know what those Muslims showed when they returned harm and damage because someone verbalized against them a little? They showed that they are the evil that the talkers said they were.

Cool
legendary
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.... this comment of your is showing your hate for Muslims and islam and you are talking about peace. This clearly shows your tolerance.

Just wanted to note that your opinions, whether I share some, all or none of them, are welcome here.
member
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the West promotes tolerance in their society only and spreading hate and war in other regions of world. You are exploiting Africans from years and using their resources and when they raise their voice against you people you call them intolerant and same is happening in different oil rich countries. What about venezuela North Korea, kim jong is extremist ?

"The West" is not protected from criticism. "The West" does not wag their finger at you telling you that you are Westophobic when you criticize its flaws. "The West" doesn't throw people off of roof tops for being gay, or stone women for being unfaithful. "The West" does not seek to kill people who abandon its Western values. "The West" is not a religion. I assume you are Arab based on your name, excuse me if I am wrong there, but as an Arab you have some cantaloupe sized balls talking to a Westernerer about exploiting Africans. Do you have any knowledge of the ancient (and modern) slave trade run by Islam out of Africa? Every crime you point at the West for Islam has 3 more skeletons in its own closet it is trying to hide. Perhaps instead of pointing your finger out and making excuses you should start looking inward, because the excuses and "whataboutisms" aren't enough any more.

Very well said. Especially the opening statement that ""The West" is not protected from criticism."
member
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Freedom of speech does not mean one can play with the sentiments of others or to pass remarks which can hurt there. There are around 2 billion Muslims living in this world and world is blaming 2 billion people because of few extremists and oppressors. Around 70 to 80 million people died in world war 2 just because of single person "Hitler" so should we blame Christianity or Germany for this, obviously no because you can not generalize whole population.

Freedom of Speech means exactly that. Freedom of Speech as a political restraint means that government may pass no law restricting the free expression of speech.

You can be an atheist who says that there is no god. That the concept god is sheer foolishness.
One can be an apostate and reject the religion of ones parents.
One can be a fool and spout nonsense - such as the earth is flat.

Freedom of Speech as a philosophical position means that one does not attempt to shut down the speech of those one disagrees with. That would be the hecklers veto or pushing to deplatform people.

So yes "Freedom of speech does not mean one can play with the sentiments of others or to pass remarks which can hurt there."

That's exactly what it means.
legendary
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the West promotes tolerance in their society only and spreading hate and war in other regions of world. You are exploiting Africans from years and using their resources and when they raise their voice against you people you call them intolerant and same is happening in different oil rich countries. What about venezuela North Korea, kim jong is extremist ?

"The West" is not protected from criticism. "The West" does not wag their finger at you telling you that you are Westophobic when you criticize its flaws. "The West" doesn't throw people off of roof tops for being gay, or stone women for being unfaithful. "The West" does not seek to kill people who abandon its Western values. "The West" is not a religion. I assume you are Arab based on your name, excuse me if I am wrong there, but as an Arab you have some cantaloupe sized balls talking to a Westernerer about exploiting Africans. Do you have any knowledge of the ancient (and modern) slave trade run by Islam out of Africa? Every crime you point at the West for Islam has 3 more skeletons in its own closet it is trying to hide. Perhaps instead of pointing your finger out and making excuses you should start looking inward, because the excuses and "whataboutisms" aren't enough any more.
jr. member
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and that is why you Americans are killing thousands around the world on the name of freedom, putting sanctions on countries trying to show your power on weak countries. Than God save the world where you people are living to preach freedom of speech

First of all America is not a religion, it is a nation state. Like I said if Islam wants to make this a game of might makes right they will get the contest of strength they so desire. I would prefer Islam had an internal reformation process, but even the reformers within Islam fear the extremists and can make no progress. I wish Muslims could live in peace, but they do not let others live in peace while they cry oppression in the same breath. Islam exploits tolerance, therefore it will receive intolerance until this is resolved, it is like physics. It has nothing to do with judgement or hate. You can blame everyone else all you like it does not change the fact that Islam is causing many of its own problems attributed to the rest of the world. I am free to say all these things here, if I was in your nation how long do you think I would be free or alive if I said these words in public?
i admit that some Muslims are extremist and we causing many problems for Muslims as well but that’s what I am saying you can not blame whole community for this. And if you were living in my country I assure you no one will harm you for these remarks. We are also trying to eliminate this intolerance and this proves that it’s not a problem with Islam, it’s the problem with some people

I don't hate all Muslims, but I tell you what I sure as fuck don't trust them to do the right thing either. As they say here in the USA "talk is cheap". You can talk about reformation within Islam all day, but I see the results of the tumor growing within Islam every day in the form of new bodies. As I said before, it is like a law of physics. It is irrelevant how many Muslims are involved because eventually no one is going to care because the extremists are too much of a threat. The West tried tolerance, but this tolerance was only exploited. A counter reaction is inevitable because Islam refuses to control its own house. This is not a threat but an observation of bodies in motion like a boulder rolling down a mountain. Eventually it will hit the bottom, and I assure you Islam is not going to like what it finds in that valley as suddenly the entire Western world says "fuck tolerance" in unison.
the West promotes tolerance in their society only and spreading hate and war in other regions of world. You are exploiting Africans from years and using their resources and when they raise their voice against you people you call them intolerant and same is happening in different oil rich countries. What about venezuela North Korea, kim jong is extremist ?
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
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and that is why you Americans are killing thousands around the world on the name of freedom, putting sanctions on countries trying to show your power on weak countries. Than God save the world where you people are living to preach freedom of speech

First of all America is not a religion, it is a nation state. Like I said if Islam wants to make this a game of might makes right they will get the contest of strength they so desire. I would prefer Islam had an internal reformation process, but even the reformers within Islam fear the extremists and can make no progress. I wish Muslims could live in peace, but they do not let others live in peace while they cry oppression in the same breath. Islam exploits tolerance, therefore it will receive intolerance until this is resolved, it is like physics. It has nothing to do with judgement or hate. You can blame everyone else all you like it does not change the fact that Islam is causing many of its own problems attributed to the rest of the world. I am free to say all these things here, if I was in your nation how long do you think I would be free or alive if I said these words in public?
i admit that some Muslims are extremist and we causing many problems for Muslims as well but that’s what I am saying you can not blame whole community for this. And if you were living in my country I assure you no one will harm you for these remarks. We are also trying to eliminate this intolerance and this proves that it’s not a problem with Islam, it’s the problem with some people

I don't hate all Muslims, but I tell you what I sure as fuck don't trust them to do the right thing either. As they say here in the USA "talk is cheap". You can talk about reformation within Islam all day, but I see the results of the tumor growing within Islam every day in the form of new bodies. As I said before, it is like a law of physics. It is irrelevant how many Muslims are involved because eventually no one is going to care because the extremists are too much of a threat. The West tried tolerance, but this tolerance was only exploited. A counter reaction is inevitable because Islam refuses to control its own house. This is not a threat but an observation of bodies in motion like a boulder rolling down a mountain. Eventually it will hit the bottom, and I assure you Islam is not going to like what it finds in that valley as suddenly the entire Western world says "fuck tolerance" in unison.
jr. member
Activity: 120
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and that is why you Americans are killing thousands around the world on the name of freedom, putting sanctions on countries trying to show your power on weak countries. Than God save the world where you people are living to preach freedom of speech

First of all America is not a religion, it is a nation state. Like I said if Islam wants to make this a game of might makes right they will get the contest of strength they so desire. I would prefer Islam had an internal reformation process, but even the reformers within Islam fear the extremists and can make no progress. I wish Muslims could live in peace, but they do not let others live in peace while they cry oppression in the same breath. Islam exploits tolerance, therefore it will receive intolerance until this is resolved, it is like physics. It has nothing to do with judgement or hate. You can blame everyone else all you like it does not change the fact that Islam is causing many of its own problems attributed to the rest of the world. I am free to say all these things here, if I was in your nation how long do you think I would be free or alive if I said these words in public?
i admit that some Muslims are extremist and we causing many problems for Muslims as well but that’s what I am saying you can not blame whole community for this. And if you were living in my country I assure you no one will harm you for these remarks. We are also trying to eliminate this intolerance and this proves that it’s not a problem with Islam, it’s the problem with some people
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
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and that is why you Americans are killing thousands around the world on the name of freedom, putting sanctions on countries trying to show your power on weak countries. Than God save the world where you people are living to preach freedom of speech

First of all America is not a religion, it is a nation state. Like I said if Islam wants to make this a game of might makes right they will get the contest of strength they so desire. I would prefer Islam had an internal reformation process, but even the reformers within Islam fear the extremists and can make no progress. I wish Muslims could live in peace, but they do not let others live in peace while they cry oppression in the same breath. Islam exploits tolerance, therefore it will receive intolerance until this is resolved, it is like physics. It has nothing to do with judgement or hate. You can blame everyone else all you like it does not change the fact that Islam is causing many of its own problems attributed to the rest of the world. I am free to say all these things here, if I was in your nation how long do you think I would be free or alive if I said these words in public?
jr. member
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Freedom of speech does not mean one can play with the sentiments of others or to pass remarks which can hurt there. There are around 2 billion Muslims living in this world and world is blaming 2 billion people because of few extremists and oppressors. Around 70 to 80 million people died in world war 2 just because of single person "Hitler" so should we blame Christianity or Germany for this, obviously no because you can not generalize whole population.

Yes that is EXACTLY what freedom of speech means, and this is exactly why Islam is not compatible with Western values or freedom in general. Islam is a globalist totalitarian supremacist political system under the guise of a religion. Even if 10% of Muslims are extremists, that is still 200 million radical Islamists committing acts of terror and violence. That number is unrealistically low as evidenced by these stats as well as many others. Shariah law is not compatible with freedom, period.

As far as WW2, last I checked this was not a religious war, and Hitler and the Nazis were not particularly fond of Christians either. He did however get along quite well with Islam. Islam needs to clean its own house, because the West is waking up to the taqiyya and if you refuse to clean your own house we will do it for you on our terms not yours.

History shows how tolerant Christianity is, until one day they are oppressed too much, then they will spend every waking moment dedicated to obliterating their enemies. No one wants that. Stop pretending Islam does not have a problem, because the world knows it does, and either the real true Muslims can work to repair it or wait until the world starts striking back without mercy. If the only thing Islam respects is strength then their cups will overflow with it until they are washed away in a torrent of blood. The times for making excuses for Islam has passed. The time for reformation is now. I want people to have freedom of religion and to worship God how they choose, I will not however stand silent while this vile violent supremacist ideology is given the protective cloak of religion to protect it from criticism. Islam itself deserves criticism.
this comment of your is showing your hate for Muslims and islam and you are talking about peace. This clearly shows your tolerance.

I don't really care what you think. I know who and what I am. Your finger wagging bullshit is meaningless. I am not some castrated European you are used to dealing with, I am an American, we don't tolerate enemies of freedom. Your condemnation means nothing to me when I see Islam murdering Christians, apostates, and homosexuals by the hundreds every month then claiming to be the religion of peace out of the other side of their mouth. I am not ashamed of what I said, you however should be ashamed of yourself before God for supporting such a violent tyrannical ideology rather than reforming it.
and that is why you Americans are killing thousands around the world on the name of freedom, putting sanctions on countries trying to show your power on weak countries. Than God save the world where you people are living to preach freedom of speech
newbie
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Cry Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists"  Should we say that? Cry Cry

I think there is always a scapegoat in the community.

Who is the most violent perpetrator of the massacre? Who?

I Think "" Hitler "!!! He persecuted 6 million Jews. With that we blame the Christians for that ?, Hitler, He's Christian ,so because he persecutes the Jews, it does not mean all Christians are like that.

Then , How about Muslims? are they all terrorists? Are there organizations that want to create a " Muslims Phobia" ?
It is inappropriate for us fellow humans to hate and kill each other.

what do you think?  


I agree with you Recently in NewZealand Terrorist attack in Mosque and killed lots of people and media says shooter why, i will say he was terrorist.



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legendary
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...this comment of your is showing your hate for Muslims and islam and you are talking about peace. This clearly shows your tolerance.
I'm not sure you words mean what you want (translation issue?)

Tolerance would be the opposite of hate for Muslims.

....
Now, does Islam seek to establish a world wide caliphate, or does it not?
how could you say that. Who invaded Afghanistan, Iraq. How can you justify barbarism in Myanmar where Muslims were killed because of their religion. Who invaded Palestine?

Why is it not a question to ask? For example....At one time, the Soviet Communist Party had a specific, avowed goal of taking over the world. The USA does not. Israel does not. Today, China does not. Etc. It's easy enough to figure this out.


there are more than 50 Muslims states in the world and have enough land to live we do not want to invade any other country to caliphate. No Muslims country runs by a caliphate so how can you accuse Muslims of that

Takiyya...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_caliphate

Over time, various historians and scholars have had differing ideas about the origins of this concept. One viewpoint is expressed in the 2007 book Islamic Imperialism: A History, in which the author Efraim Karsh explains his belief of the concept's origin:[11]

    As a universal religion, Islam envisages a global political order in which all humankind will live under Muslim rule as either believers or subject communities. In order to achieve this goal it is incumbent on all free, male, adult Muslims to carry out an uncompromising struggle "in the path of Allah", or jihad. This in turn makes those parts of the world that have not yet been conquered by the House of Islam an abode of permanent conflict (Dar al-Harb, the "house of war") which will only end with Islam's eventual triumph.
legendary
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Freedom of speech does not mean one can play with the sentiments of others or to pass remarks which can hurt there. There are around 2 billion Muslims living in this world and world is blaming 2 billion people because of few extremists and oppressors. Around 70 to 80 million people died in world war 2 just because of single person "Hitler" so should we blame Christianity or Germany for this, obviously no because you can not generalize whole population.

Yes that is EXACTLY what freedom of speech means, and this is exactly why Islam is not compatible with Western values or freedom in general. Islam is a globalist totalitarian supremacist political system under the guise of a religion. Even if 10% of Muslims are extremists, that is still 200 million radical Islamists committing acts of terror and violence. That number is unrealistically low as evidenced by these stats as well as many others. Shariah law is not compatible with freedom, period.

As far as WW2, last I checked this was not a religious war, and Hitler and the Nazis were not particularly fond of Christians either. He did however get along quite well with Islam. Islam needs to clean its own house, because the West is waking up to the taqiyya and if you refuse to clean your own house we will do it for you on our terms not yours.

History shows how tolerant Christianity is, until one day they are oppressed too much, then they will spend every waking moment dedicated to obliterating their enemies. No one wants that. Stop pretending Islam does not have a problem, because the world knows it does, and either the real true Muslims can work to repair it or wait until the world starts striking back without mercy. If the only thing Islam respects is strength then their cups will overflow with it until they are washed away in a torrent of blood. The times for making excuses for Islam has passed. The time for reformation is now. I want people to have freedom of religion and to worship God how they choose, I will not however stand silent while this vile violent supremacist ideology is given the protective cloak of religion to protect it from criticism. Islam itself deserves criticism.
this comment of your is showing your hate for Muslims and islam and you are talking about peace. This clearly shows your tolerance.

I don't really care what you think. I know who and what I am. Your finger wagging bullshit is meaningless. I am not some castrated European you are used to dealing with, I am an American, we don't tolerate enemies of freedom. Your condemnation means nothing to me when I see Islam murdering Christians, apostates, and homosexuals by the hundreds every month then claiming to be the religion of peace out of the other side of their mouth. I am not ashamed of what I said, you however should be ashamed of yourself before God for supporting such a violent tyrannical ideology rather than reforming it.
newbie
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Thank you to all who gave your opinion.
Even though we have differing opinions,hopelly we're as human can live peacefully together on the difference.
legendary
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^^^ Then you are not Muslim, no matter how much you say you are. Why not? Because the Koran and Hadiths tell you to do otherwise... http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm.

So, which of you has enough guts to rewrite the Koran without the directives to go out and kill? Will you be able to write it without being killed at the hands of your fellow Muslims? By the time you have success in this, the rest of the Muslims will all have converted to peaceful Christianity.

Cool
jr. member
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...this comment of your is showing your hate for Muslims and islam and you are talking about peace. This clearly shows your tolerance.
I'm not sure you words mean what you want (translation issue?)

Tolerance would be the opposite of hate for Muslims.

....
Now, does Islam seek to establish a world wide caliphate, or does it not?
how could you say that. Who invaded Afghanistan, Iraq. How can you justify barbarism in Myanmar where Muslims were killed because of their religion. Who invaded Palestine?

Why is it not a question to ask? For example....At one time, the Soviet Communist Party had a specific, avowed goal of taking over the world. The USA does not. Israel does not. Today, China does not. Etc. It's easy enough to figure this out.


there are more than 50 Muslims states in the world and have enough land to live we do not want to invade any other country to caliphate. No Muslims country runs by a caliphate so how can you accuse Muslims of that
legendary
Activity: 2926
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...this comment of your is showing your hate for Muslims and islam and you are talking about peace. This clearly shows your tolerance.
I'm not sure you words mean what you want (translation issue?)

Tolerance would be the opposite of hate for Muslims.

....
Now, does Islam seek to establish a world wide caliphate, or does it not?
how could you say that. Who invaded Afghanistan, Iraq. How can you justify barbarism in Myanmar where Muslims were killed because of their religion. Who invaded Palestine?

Why is it not a question to ask? For example....At one time, the Soviet Communist Party had a specific, avowed goal of taking over the world. The USA does not. Israel does not. Today, China does not. Etc. It's easy enough to figure this out.

jr. member
Activity: 120
Merit: 6
Freedom of speech does not mean one can play with the sentiments of others or to pass remarks which can hurt there. There are around 2 billion Muslims living in this world and world is blaming 2 billion people because of few extremists and oppressors. Around 70 to 80 million people died in world war 2 just because of single person "Hitler" so should we blame Christianity or Germany for this, obviously no because you can not generalize whole population.

Yes that is EXACTLY what freedom of speech means, and this is exactly why Islam is not compatible with Western values or freedom in general. Islam is a globalist totalitarian supremacist political system under the guise of a religion. Even if 10% of Muslims are extremists, that is still 200 million radical Islamists committing acts of terror and violence. That number is unrealistically low as evidenced by these stats as well as many others. Shariah law is not compatible with freedom, period.

As far as WW2, last I checked this was not a religious war, and Hitler and the Nazis were not particularly fond of Christians either. He did however get along quite well with Islam. Islam needs to clean its own house, because the West is waking up to the taqiyya and if you refuse to clean your own house we will do it for you on our terms not yours.

History shows how tolerant Christianity is, until one day they are oppressed too much, then they will spend every waking moment dedicated to obliterating their enemies. No one wants that. Stop pretending Islam does not have a problem, because the world knows it does, and either the real true Muslims can work to repair it or wait until the world starts striking back without mercy. If the only thing Islam respects is strength then their cups will overflow with it until they are washed away in a torrent of blood. The times for making excuses for Islam has passed. The time for reformation is now. I want people to have freedom of religion and to worship God how they choose, I will not however stand silent while this vile violent supremacist ideology is given the protective cloak of religion to protect it from criticism. Islam itself deserves criticism.
this comment of your is showing your hate for Muslims and islam and you are talking about peace. This clearly shows your tolerance.
jr. member
Activity: 120
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Freedom of speech does not mean one can play with the sentiments of others or to pass remarks which can hurt there...

It may not be likable, but yes, freedom of speech means exactly that...

....There are around 2 billion Muslims living in this world and world is blaming 2 billion people because of few extremists and oppressors. Around 70 to 80 million people died in world war 2 just because of single person "Hitler" so should we blame Christianity or Germany for this, obviously no because you can not generalize whole population.

Perhaps half of the WW2 deaths were due to Japanese aggression, which bears numerous similarities to Islamic extremism.

Certainly you can and should blame the whole population, and Germany, because it was the country as a whole that went to war.  It was Germany that we fought, not Hitler. It was Japan and it's people that fought in other lands to enslave them. Not the Emperor.

Duhh...

Now, does Islam seek to establish a world wide caliphate, or does it not?
how could you say that. Who invaded Afghanistan, Iraq. How can you justify barbarism in Myanmar where Muslims were killed because of their religion. Who invaded Palestine?
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