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hero member
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December 23, 2022, 11:00:44 PM
I think it's a cool idea for a cool game. Bookies who are promoting PVP type of games are the ones handling this kind of games but it doesn't have that much support yet. Most gamblers will choose sports gambling 1 versus 1 or team versus team rather than console games.
Before, there were tournaments being held for console fighting games but now they are not that popular anymore. So, this is going to be a problem if you are running a business. You know they need money flowing and there's little on that.
hero member
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December 23, 2022, 10:45:56 PM
Besides by using an established franchise like Tekken then the professional players will have a massive advantage over everyone else, it seems to me that people do not really understand how good professionals really are, if you were to match a professional vs your average player the professional will win 10 out 10 times, so while the idea of the OP may seem to be good there are many reasons why this has never been implemented and why I do not think we will see it implemented at any casino soon.

Platform could have matching system for players. So player go against players having similar skillset.

Anyhow, such system will plague the particular game with more hacker problem than what gaming industry already has.

The match system wouldn't be a problem, but those scumbag cheaters and hackers are the problem mostly now that it involves money as a bet. I am sure they will find a way to win even if they cheat, so it would be the game developer's problem and also the casino's since it wouldn't be fair at all. There is still a lot of discussion about this kind of innovation in gambling, but for sure we could overcome it and we would see some sort of e-sports integrated into every online casino.
legendary
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December 23, 2022, 10:40:53 PM
Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.


For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

Players vs players games are pretty much competitive and of course, they are more entertaining than all these slots, roulette, dice, etc games. I don't know which games you are talking about. Have never heard of tekken but whenever a casino will have such games implemented on the casino, I'm sure a lot of cheaters will take advantage and you will never know whom you are playing with, whether a real person or somewhat a coded version of a person, kidding I mean against a bot. This is very much possible and will certainly kill the entertainment you will expect there.
The chance of an abuser getting involved may be low but you don't know whether the house will take advantage or not, I have seen a few such games we play on mobile where the game owner takes advantage by setting up a lot of bots.
hero member
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December 23, 2022, 10:33:12 PM
Besides by using an established franchise like Tekken then the professional players will have a massive advantage over everyone else, it seems to me that people do not really understand how good professionals really are, if you were to match a professional vs your average player the professional will win 10 out 10 times, so while the idea of the OP may seem to be good there are many reasons why this has never been implemented and why I do not think we will see it implemented at any casino soon.

Platform could have matching system for players. So player go against players having similar skillset.

Anyhow, such system will plague the particular game with more hacker problem than what gaming industry already has.
legendary
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December 23, 2022, 07:20:14 PM
I don't think you will find many Casinos interested in that. Not saying it is a bad idea but that it would involve a lot of effort for Casinos to develop and a lot of investment wasted. However, there may be a way to develop a betting place where you can bet in real live e-gaming where gamblers can even play and bet in themselves or the opponents.
It could something like connected to Twitct or rumble or something like that where you could invite players on the game to battles where you could live stream directly through one of these platforms. Interesting idea though...

You can only play competitive games on other platforms but cannot use non-gambling platforms to bet unless you can only bet with your friends, so competitive games of the fighter genre are very rarely adopted in gambling because not many people are interested in playing them, so slot games, roulette and others are appropriate for gambling games, gambling platforms only focus on increasing the games that are most in demand by many gamblers and other games are only alternatives to complement but if they don't reach the profit target then the platform will replace them with other games.
Besides by using an established franchise like Tekken then the professional players will have a massive advantage over everyone else, it seems to me that people do not really understand how good professionals really are, if you were to match a professional vs your average player the professional will win 10 out 10 times, so while the idea of the OP may seem to be good there are many reasons why this has never been implemented and why I do not think we will see it implemented at any casino soon.
legendary
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December 23, 2022, 06:51:28 PM
OP have clearly mentioned about the games that needs to be played for a long to master it. To master the game playing against other players it takes time and continued betting would slow down the gaming process. It is always good to spend on games like chess, if someone is interested into player vs player games.
sr. member
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December 23, 2022, 06:44:05 PM
#99
I don't think you will find many Casinos interested in that. Not saying it is a bad idea but that it would involve a lot of effort for Casinos to develop and a lot of investment wasted. However, there may be a way to develop a betting place where you can bet in real live e-gaming where gamblers can even play and bet in themselves or the opponents.
It could something like connected to Twitct or rumble or something like that where you could invite players on the game to battles where you could live stream directly through one of these platforms. Interesting idea though...

You can only play competitive games on other platforms but cannot use non-gambling platforms to bet unless you can only bet with your friends, so competitive games of the fighter genre are very rarely adopted in gambling because not many people are interested in playing them, so slot games, roulette and others are appropriate for gambling games, gambling platforms only focus on increasing the games that are most in demand by many gamblers and other games are only alternatives to complement but if they don't reach the profit target then the platform will replace them with other games.
legendary
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December 23, 2022, 06:06:18 PM
#98
The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.


For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.


Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.


The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.




I don't think you will find many Casinos interested in that. Not saying it is a bad idea but that it would involve a lot of effort for Casinos to develop and a lot of investment wasted. However, there may be a way to develop a betting place where you can bet in real live e-gaming where gamblers can even play and bet in themselves or the opponents.
It could something like connected to Twitct or rumble or something like that where you could invite players on the game to battles where you could live stream directly through one of these platforms. Interesting idea though...
hero member
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December 23, 2022, 05:40:51 PM
#97
The main issue is fairness I think, p2p games can be cheated by various softwares so if the money is involved I can imagine what kind of things players can do to win. Esports is another alternative but I guess you ask for team battles on specific games, maybe you should try online poker websites.
I can not refer someone to particular to play, because i know that if the person happens to play such kind of game and it happens that the game fails to enter as expected, the people in question will feel like I'm asked them to go into a wrong platform, let them use their hand and look for the particular game they feel that is good with them from my observation, if they are ro check poker as you mentioned let it be that it use it's hand to locate the game it need.
hero member
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December 23, 2022, 05:26:19 PM
#96
The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.


For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.
Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.

The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.


One of the main thing to consider, does it attract enough market for it to become profitable on the casino's end?
What if your opponent have a better internet connection, that would matter to any games, I knew that because I am a gamer as well and I also played since Tekken 2.
If it was attractive enough for the gamblers, then it would have been implemented already.
As you can see, the most effective betting style for this kind of games is via tournament, some gambling platforms open a line for betting for the bettors to choose their favourite player.
hero member
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December 23, 2022, 05:10:47 PM
#95

Good point, no one casinos wants to take the risk knowing they have instant cashouts and if a bug is found and exploited they can lose millions within minutes. Even the dice game we see today it had many bugs initially, I still remember Hufflepuff cheated PD out of a massive amount and they couldn't even find out what's wrong for quite a while.

....

What a story! It's the first time I heard about it and wow... what happens during early days of bitcoin history is something crazy !
https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d

About this game proposed, I think that it's really hard create something like this and required a lot of effort in coding, writing rule, etc etc
Moreover it's remind me a game like "axie infinity" so I think that maybe something similar has been already realized.

This one is a never forgetting kind of exploit which it happens on PD which it did really been able for someone to exploit out and lose out tons of money within minutes which is really something that could really happen
on a certain gambling platform.Come to think that it was on dice game, for now we arent seeing some major exploits into these kind of games but there's always those probabilities.
Integrating some sort of Pvp is something that cant really be that easy, its true that it would really be needing that complex coding and other security features which
is really needed to be applied. Also casinos doesnt really like those slow-paced games which do also slows down the stream of income or revenue.
So it is really just understandable.
legendary
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December 23, 2022, 05:10:22 PM
#94

Good point, no one casinos wants to take the risk knowing they have instant cashouts and if a bug is found and exploited they can lose millions within minutes. Even the dice game we see today it had many bugs initially, I still remember Hufflepuff cheated PD out of a massive amount and they couldn't even find out what's wrong for quite a while.

....

What a story! It's the first time I heard about it and wow... what happens during early days of bitcoin history is something crazy !
https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d

About this game proposed, I think that it's really hard create something like this and required a lot of effort in coding, writing rule, etc etc
Moreover it's remind me a game like "axie infinity" so I think that maybe something similar has been already realized.


there maybe more games already but only few can be seen as popular. it depends on how they market it to the gaming industry. if a new game is developed, it is always better to hold a test phase so they can offer some rewards for players who can find bugs. don't introduce it right away without running a test. definitely you will lose if there is a certain bug because most players will abuse it before reporting it. dont trust players to be very honest with their games.
hero member
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December 23, 2022, 03:38:50 PM
#93
Almost as a whole, all types of games that involve betting are designed to be as simple and attractive as possible just to spoil their users. Remember, most casino games are not made for the skill level of their users. or pitting user skills with other users.  although there are some games that involve skill, such as poker which requires skill, insight, memory and involves several people who play it. however, almost all types of gambling games are designed as simple as possible but still interesting. gambling games are different from PC games or mobile games that are often played by teenagers or young people, such as winning eleven for example or Call of Duty or maybe mortal kombat.

The types of games that involve betting, always involve gamblers and the dealer. whether it's slot machines, dice, roulette, baccarat, or so on. I'm not sure the ideas you put forward will be adopted by casino businessmen. except, if there are innovations and breakthroughs that are more up-to-date. even then, if well received by the market. even so the possibility is still there, but we do not know when it can be realized.
The kind of betting he is talking about should belong to e-sports category, which is similar to sports betting, but instead of betting on real sports events, he wants to bet in multiplayer games. That is something which already exists, but its impact on the gambling industry is minimal, since those games aren't so popular nowadays and the mix between gaming and gambling isn't efficient. Most gamblers still don't engage themselves in video-game bets, as they prefer traditional casino games and sports bets. It has been a tough barrier on the adopt of e-sports among gambling enthusiasts.

I think if we were in the 90', when those Arcade machines were popular, but connected to the internet, there should be better chances the "cool games" OP mentioned could be taken seriously by the gambling community.
legendary
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December 23, 2022, 01:18:54 PM
#92
The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.


For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.


Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.


The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.




Almost as a whole, all types of games that involve betting are designed to be as simple and attractive as possible just to spoil their users. Remember, most casino games are not made for the skill level of their users. or pitting user skills with other users.  although there are some games that involve skill, such as poker which requires skill, insight, memory and involves several people who play it. however, almost all types of gambling games are designed as simple as possible but still interesting. gambling games are different from PC games or mobile games that are often played by teenagers or young people, such as winning eleven for example or Call of Duty or maybe mortal kombat.

The types of games that involve betting, always involve gamblers and the dealer. whether it's slot machines, dice, roulette, baccarat, or so on. I'm not sure the ideas you put forward will be adopted by casino businessmen. except, if there are innovations and breakthroughs that are more up-to-date. even then, if well received by the market. even so the possibility is still there, but we do not know when it can be realized.
legendary
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December 23, 2022, 12:01:23 PM
#91

Good point, no one casinos wants to take the risk knowing they have instant cashouts and if a bug is found and exploited they can lose millions within minutes. Even the dice game we see today it had many bugs initially, I still remember Hufflepuff cheated PD out of a massive amount and they couldn't even find out what's wrong for quite a while.

....

What a story! It's the first time I heard about it and wow... what happens during early days of bitcoin history is something crazy !
https://medium.com/@Stunna/breaking-the-house-63f1021a3e6d

About this game proposed, I think that it's really hard create something like this and required a lot of effort in coding, writing rule, etc etc
Moreover it's remind me a game like "axie infinity" so I think that maybe something similar has been already realized.
legendary
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December 23, 2022, 11:46:13 AM
#90
Since we are talking about real money here, having a bug in those complicated games would ruin the casino completely. And fixing that bug in a complicated game would be too much time consuming, expensive.

I don't consider games such as Tekken, Mortal Kombat, and Street Fighters as complicated games with complicated technology associated with complicated bugs that need a complicated solution. These games are provided by well-established Game Providers and the gambling site will just run them.

It's not the bug actually but demand of that game. Casino games also shouldn't handle that type of competition or PVP related as in the first place as that wasn't a casino game where users are against the house, not on other players.

A dedicated platform is needed for that type of game.
sr. member
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December 23, 2022, 10:55:22 AM
#89
Because of hacks mostly. These games like tekken you mentioned may have lots of bugs in the code and that would ruin the game for those who don’t know about that.
Good point, no one casinos wants to take the risk knowing they have instant cashouts and if a bug is found and exploited they can lose millions within minutes. Even the dice game we see today it had many bugs initially, I still remember Hufflepuff cheated PD out of a massive amount and they couldn't even find out what's wrong for quite a while.

Less code = less headache.
Yes and the market for new games isn't big either, players are addicted to the already existing games.

Sometime ago I used to play at a casino named something like luckybits or something and they had a few refreshing games but I think the casino has been closed, tells you how new games can lead to losses perhaps.
full member
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December 23, 2022, 08:53:04 AM
#88
The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.


For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.


Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.


The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.
The problem is that the majority of gamblers don't really like PvP games, I personally like that too,, I prefer the display of images/animations that are generated/shown when playing slots. for me PvP is just a waste of time, but this is just my opinion, every gambler is different.
hero member
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December 23, 2022, 08:41:25 AM
#87
The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.


For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.


Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.


The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.




I'm not sure if you are right about having players vs player games on casinoes because right we already have many players vs players games online where you can have real competitors and where are already many games for this pupos.
For example if you are falimialr with card games you can try playing Poker and enjoy playing against other real players. Also there can be some other options you can try.
But still the developers can be more creative and develop some other online pvp games other than card games.
legendary
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December 23, 2022, 08:22:17 AM
#86
The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.
Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.
You're one of the few that's saying this I still consider games on casinos challenging and entertaining it's hard to beat the house and is a big accomplishment beating it.

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For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.
you can choose 4 characters.
Opponent can choose 4 characters.
Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.
The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.
I don't think casinos will install this as there is little profit to be made here and besides people that are playing in casinos are gamblers and not gamers, if you want something like this, go find it in the gaming hub, or recommend these kinds of games to gaming sites.

Those are one of the oldest forms of gambling so they keep using this kind of game of course at the end of the game its in the people's choice and some of them keep finding this kind of genre of game. Also some of the game like this accepting with the lower wager too unlike other games most often in table top games offer with the 10 dollars minimum too so peoples choice to play with.
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