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Probably such features would not be implemented in regular video games because they are not only played by adults, but also by children. And that could lead to even more addiction. I'm sure such games won't be approved by x-box or PlayStation. About the regular casino games, probably people are used to the classics, so fighting for money in the browser is not popular, but maybe that will change in the future.

Maybe if implemented into gambling, it will only attract gamblers while the young generation under 17 years can not play in the casino and are very happy to play those games on PlayStation or X-Box. And it will limit the number of players playing the game so maybe the profit to the casino is not as much as other gambling games. But I don't know. The casino may create a new game inspired by the games on PlayStation or X-Box. So let's wait for technological developments in this gambling sector.

Probably with technology will not be difficult and most likely it is not difficult to implement in already ready games. But it seems to me that this will be an additional reason for cheating. For example, a player can bet against himself and lose on purpose. If even in soccer rigged matches occur, then in computer games it is much easier to do.

It won't be easy for the average person who doesn't play the game much but knows the game because they don't know how to cheat the game. But casinos will not try to integrate something that can trigger cheating on their premises unless they have ensured everything is running well and no one will cheat, even if that is not guaranteed. Or maybe implementing such technology is still not possible for casinos so they would rather have games that many gamblers are used to playing. One day when the gambling industry grows even more rapidly, we will see that change.

Cheating would really be a problem since they are using third-party on this to connect to the games. We all know that in games there are a lot of cheaters so probably it would be prone to cheating and this is difficult to prevent as most of the game developers are trying to counter this but still, cheaters still exist. Though if most of the PVP games like tekken or mortal combat, cheating is difficult and also easily noticed so it would be nice to be integrated it soon.

Maybe they still need time to be fully integrated into their casino or they are waiting for a new trend in the gambling business so they are ready to release the PVP game. Usually, if they launch something along with an ongoing trend, they can get a nice income because they have something new that people want, especially if they have a lot of members who will spread the word about the update.

I am sure that when one casino will roll out this a lot of casinos will follow since if there are new trends others will follow so that they can join the trend and attract customers which are also we as a gambler is happy about it since we can choose what is the best casino to play and reputable one. Though for now, I haven't heard of this kind of game rolling out (or I just didn't notice it) so the possibility on this is it will take a few years or more to see this.

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Probably such features would not be implemented in regular video games because they are not only played by adults, but also by children. And that could lead to even more addiction. I'm sure such games won't be approved by x-box or PlayStation. About the regular casino games, probably people are used to the classics, so fighting for money in the browser is not popular, but maybe that will change in the future.

Maybe if implemented into gambling, it will only attract gamblers while the young generation under 17 years can not play in the casino and are very happy to play those games on PlayStation or X-Box. And it will limit the number of players playing the game so maybe the profit to the casino is not as much as other gambling games. But I don't know. The casino may create a new game inspired by the games on PlayStation or X-Box. So let's wait for technological developments in this gambling sector.

Probably with technology will not be difficult and most likely it is not difficult to implement in already ready games. But it seems to me that this will be an additional reason for cheating. For example, a player can bet against himself and lose on purpose. If even in soccer rigged matches occur, then in computer games it is much easier to do.

It won't be easy for the average person who doesn't play the game much but knows the game because they don't know how to cheat the game. But casinos will not try to integrate something that can trigger cheating on their premises unless they have ensured everything is running well and no one will cheat, even if that is not guaranteed. Or maybe implementing such technology is still not possible for casinos so they would rather have games that many gamblers are used to playing. One day when the gambling industry grows even more rapidly, we will see that change.

casino cares nothing about this because since it will be about bet against bet then all they care is how much they will compensate from the event and this will not damage their site ,
but lets see what would be the result once this happens but Im afraid it will come any time soon.

Casinos care about their customers by providing good service and always adding new games to their casinos. They do this because that's the only way where they will have many members who always play at their place. And casinos also often hold events to attract the attention or interest of gamblers to join and have fun. That of course, will provide a huge income for the casino and the casino will grow in the future.

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Probably such features would not be implemented in regular video games because they are not only played by adults, but also by children. And that could lead to even more addiction. I'm sure such games won't be approved by x-box or PlayStation. About the regular casino games, probably people are used to the classics, so fighting for money in the browser is not popular, but maybe that will change in the future.

Maybe if implemented into gambling, it will only attract gamblers while the young generation under 17 years can not play in the casino and are very happy to play those games on PlayStation or X-Box. And it will limit the number of players playing the game so maybe the profit to the casino is not as much as other gambling games. But I don't know. The casino may create a new game inspired by the games on PlayStation or X-Box. So let's wait for technological developments in this gambling sector.

Probably with technology will not be difficult and most likely it is not difficult to implement in already ready games. But it seems to me that this will be an additional reason for cheating. For example, a player can bet against himself and lose on purpose. If even in soccer rigged matches occur, then in computer games it is much easier to do.

It won't be easy for the average person who doesn't play the game much but knows the game because they don't know how to cheat the game. But casinos will not try to integrate something that can trigger cheating on their premises unless they have ensured everything is running well and no one will cheat, even if that is not guaranteed. Or maybe implementing such technology is still not possible for casinos so they would rather have games that many gamblers are used to playing. One day when the gambling industry grows even more rapidly, we will see that change.

Cheating would really be a problem since they are using third-party on this to connect to the games. We all know that in games there are a lot of cheaters so probably it would be prone to cheating and this is difficult to prevent as most of the game developers are trying to counter this but still, cheaters still exist. Though if most of the PVP games like tekken or mortal combat, cheating is difficult and also easily noticed so it would be nice to be integrated it soon.

Maybe they still need time to be fully integrated into their casino or they are waiting for a new trend in the gambling business so they are ready to release the PVP game. Usually, if they launch something along with an ongoing trend, they can get a nice income because they have something new that people want, especially if they have a lot of members who will spread the word about the update.

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Probably such features would not be implemented in regular video games because they are not only played by adults, but also by children. And that could lead to even more addiction. I'm sure such games won't be approved by x-box or PlayStation. About the regular casino games, probably people are used to the classics, so fighting for money in the browser is not popular, but maybe that will change in the future.

Maybe if implemented into gambling, it will only attract gamblers while the young generation under 17 years can not play in the casino and are very happy to play those games on PlayStation or X-Box. And it will limit the number of players playing the game so maybe the profit to the casino is not as much as other gambling games. But I don't know. The casino may create a new game inspired by the games on PlayStation or X-Box. So let's wait for technological developments in this gambling sector.

Probably technology will not be difficult and most likely it is not difficult to implement in already-ready games. But it seems to me that this will be an additional reason for cheating. For example, a player can bet against himself and lose on purpose. If even in soccer rigged matches occur, then in computer games it is much easier to do.

That's what they're trying to avoid. Pvp games can easily be manipulated so they just are trying to avoid it. Casinos will spend too much if more players will cheat through pvp games. However, there are still lots of exciting games that each casino is releasing and launching each day so you could find where you're intrrested in. I believe that more games could be added and considered in the future as technology emerges and develops.

I simply find it strange to read from people that casinos could be cheated, how? But none has ever fetched me with a satisfactory answer. Maybe you will be the first to do this as you claim that PVP games could cause casinos to be cheated which is the reason why they avoid it and launch other game options.

I simply still do not know how this could be corrected, but I am open to enlightenment on this subject matter, especially through PVP, who is cheating who?

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I believe I have crossed a topic about asking why tekken or Mortal combat still not added in some casino to bet in , but I like this Idea , winner take all is the best to have this because we also played similar rules in the past when we were young , playing in arcade with friends and betting against everyone , the first one to win 3 rounds will face the winner of other opponent and yes I ended up winning most of the time as I have the combo from my favorite character.

Yes this is the another thread you're looking for Are we ever going to see this on gambling platforms some day..

Well it's not that easy to configure a video game to gambling, because the site will need to behalf like an escrow. They need to know the result of that's game, so I don't think licensed video games will want to add their game to someone site, they will ask for huge money because it's about copyright. It's possible for the casino create their own Mortal Combat game, but it will take a lot money and time to develop a very good game.

yeah and that means another expenses and added Job when they are gaining from the previous set up without any hassle , and this will only favor few when the operation needs more added action.
so maybe this will not be easy to operate and the cost will be more , better if we wanted to have this? find a group , use escrow and play against each other.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 20, 2022, 10:14:00 AM

The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.

For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.

Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.

The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.

Casino use traditional games so expect that this will be the common games available on online casino. Also what type of games to bet didn't exist yet because maybe for now the business man behind the casino doesn't see any demand on this and only few people talk about it on any forums.

But things might change together with evolution of gambling since if this skill based pvp type of betting option will be famous then for sure many casino will adopt it.

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Quote from: Saisher on December 22, 2022, 06:41:41 PM

and besides people that are playing in casinos are gamblers and not gamers,

Aside from that, it's easy for some to play casinos even coming from being a non-gambler. Therefore, just marketing the casino with usual casino games is enough to attract new users compared to a different style of gambling that will be included in the platform such as P2P.

We should also consider that kind of game is only for those who understand the game.

I doubt most gamblers know how to play that game where skill is the number 1 priority that they should have in order to win. No luck to rely on.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 20, 2022, 10:14:00 AM

The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.

You're one of the few that's saying this I still consider games on casinos challenging and entertaining it's hard to beat the house and is a big accomplishment beating it.

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For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.

Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.

The more hours you play the more skilled you get and can get confident in changing bet size.

I don't think casinos will install this as there is little profit to be made here and besides people that are playing in casinos are gamblers and not gamers, if you want something like this, go find it in the gaming hub, or recommend these kinds of games to gaming sites.

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That's not cool for me as I'm not that good at that game. I will just risk my money for nothing there if the series of betting will be a prize pool and winner take all because for sure, professional players will join the tournament.

Not with the prize pool but if the system will be like on 8-ball mini clip where you will find a random opponent, that's good as we will have a chance to face a player with just the same skill as us and if the matchmaking is based on winning rate, we will not end up facing GODS.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on December 22, 2022, 01:01:49 PM

Well, casinos make money on fast bets..... a player vs player match up will reduce the bet time and they will get less profit. The normal Slots and Dice takes seconds and every second bring in money for the casino... it is only the feature that takes a little longer. Tongue

I will also like Player vs Player games... but it should be something that can be played very quickly.... like Crash. I like games where you shoot rockets .... so a North Korea vs USA nuclear shootout will work perfectly for me. Grin

This is fact on where casinos doesnt really prefer on games which do brings out profit or revenue on a long span of time manner on which it is really that much ideal and preferable on having those games that gives out
results or outcomes which is faster than a blink of an eye this is why it is really just common nowadays on looking into something for most casinos to have.We are really that dying to see some sites
that might offer these type of games but since they are a business then they would really be going after into those business models and ways which they could bring out profits
as fast as they could.

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Well, casinos make money on fast bets..... a player vs player match up will reduce the bet time and they will get less profit. The normal Slots and Dice takes seconds and every second bring in money for the casino... it is only the feature that takes a little longer. Tongue

I will also like Player vs Player games... but it should be something that can be played very quickly.... like Crash. I like games where you shoot rockets .... so a North Korea vs USA nuclear shootout will work perfectly for me. Grin

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 20, 2022, 10:14:00 AM

The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.

Maybe that you mean want a game that deals directly with other players, not with the system? Of course you will be more disappointed with that when you face an unequal opponent. Of course those who play at a high level are people who have high skills in gambling, so it is difficult for beginners to fight them. Therefore, going against the system is the best solution even if the chances of winning are smaller. Have you ever sat at the same table with those who are highly skilled at the game? As if they know all the cards we have. This will frustrate us in the game.

Sorry but I disagree with you, I tell you that one way to conquer fear is to face it, one does not become a great sailor by sailing on silent waters, one become a great sailor by sailing on stormy waters and coming through it successfully several times.

If you don't face and find a way to defeat that gambler you Call high skilled, you yourself will never become a high skilled gambler, that one you see as high skilled wasn't born with that skill, he or she was ones a pleb, they faced greater/high skilled opponents and by so doing, they themselves become great/high skilled.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 20, 2022, 10:14:00 AM

The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.

For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.

Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.

So how will the casino then make it's profit? Or have you forgotten that the main aim of launching a casino business is to make profit by its owners? Because if the winner of the 3 rounds keep on taking all the money then what will be the fate of the casino. But I literally don't know much about your suggested "Tekken" game, but I think Play to play keep of game will be a very nice development if integrated into the casino business in such a way the operators could also make a decent profits too.

Casinos want to focus on making a profit by launching simple games which is actually in demand for lots of players. They won't make it too complicated for them unless huge number of players would demand and request for more games. Casinos rely on gamblers' interests and if we could only see common games in casinos, that is because players prefer them. Some casinos have other game features which are uncommon but they still prefer common games that players of any age could play and enjoy.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 20, 2022, 10:14:00 AM

The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.

Maybe that you mean want a game that deals directly with other players, not with the system? Of course you will be more disappointed with that when you face an unequal opponent. Of course those who play at a high level are people who have high skills in gambling, so it is difficult for beginners to fight them. Therefore, going against the system is the best solution even if the chances of winning are smaller. Have you ever sat at the same table with those who are highly skilled at the game? As if they know all the cards we have. This will frustrate us in the game.

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Quote from: Riocasino on December 20, 2022, 10:14:00 AM

The technology today is bad only dice, roullete and the normal games like slots.

Its not competitive. Why not open games players vs players.

For example somethign similar to Tekken on a browser.

you can choose 4 characters.

Opponent can choose 4 characters.

Betting can be from 5$ to 300$. The winner of 3 rounds take all money.

So how will the casino then make it's profit? Or have you forgotten that the main aim of launching a casino business is to make profit by its owners? Because if the winner of the 3 rounds keep on taking all the money then what will be the fate of the casino. But I literally don't know much about your suggested "Tekken" game, but I think Play to play keep of game will be a very nice development if integrated into the casino business in such a way the operators could also make a decent profits too.

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Quote from: fzkto on December 21, 2022, 04:34:47 AM

Probably such features would not be implemented in regular video games because they are not only played by adults, but also by children. And that could lead to even more addiction. I'm sure such games won't be approved by x-box or PlayStation. About the regular casino games, probably people are used to the classics, so fighting for money in the browser is not popular, but maybe that will change in the future.

Maybe if implemented into gambling, it will only attract gamblers while the young generation under 17 years can not play in the casino and are very happy to play those games on PlayStation or X-Box. And it will limit the number of players playing the game so maybe the profit to the casino is not as much as other gambling games. But I don't know. The casino may create a new game inspired by the games on PlayStation or X-Box. So let's wait for technological developments in this gambling sector.

Probably with technology will not be difficult and most likely it is not difficult to implement in already ready games. But it seems to me that this will be an additional reason for cheating. For example, a player can bet against himself and lose on purpose. If even in soccer rigged matches occur, then in computer games it is much easier to do.

It won't be easy for the average person who doesn't play the game much but knows the game because they don't know how to cheat the game. But casinos will not try to integrate something that can trigger cheating on their premises unless they have ensured everything is running well and no one will cheat, even if that is not guaranteed. Or maybe implementing such technology is still not possible for casinos so they would rather have games that many gamblers are used to playing. One day when the gambling industry grows even more rapidly, we will see that change.

Cheating would really be a problem since they are using third-party on this to connect to the games. We all know that in games there are a lot of cheaters so probably it would be prone to cheating and this is difficult to prevent as most of the game developers are trying to counter this but still, cheaters still exist. Though if most of the PVP games like tekken or mortal combat, cheating is difficult and also easily noticed so it would be nice to be integrated it soon.

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I also have many cool games ideas especially Player vs Player games but I think implementing them is not worth for the casinos because people prefer provably fair games which has originated from crypto casinos. I mean if I want to play regular slots and games I would rather visit bet365 they have the biggest range of games and insane amount of slots. I think crypto casinos are also aware of this and hence they focus more on selling the provably fair games at a low house edge.

But yeah I 100% agree the games at crypto casinos have become quite boring. There's dice, limbo/crash, keno and that's about it and you will find different variations and styles of these same few games. Might also be true that creating new games that are also provably fair isn't that easy and worth.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on December 21, 2022, 09:33:37 PM

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Quote from: fzkto on December 21, 2022, 04:34:47 AM

Probably such features would not be implemented in regular video games because they are not only played by adults, but also by children. And that could lead to even more addiction. I'm sure such games won't be approved by x-box or PlayStation. About the regular casino games, probably people are used to the classics, so fighting for money in the browser is not popular, but maybe that will change in the future.

Maybe if implemented into gambling, it will only attract gamblers while the young generation under 17 years can not play in the casino and are very happy to play those games on PlayStation or X-Box. And it will limit the number of players playing the game so maybe the profit to the casino is not as much as other gambling games. But I don't know. The casino may create a new game inspired by the games on PlayStation or X-Box. So let's wait for technological developments in this gambling sector.

Probably with technology will not be difficult and most likely it is not difficult to implement in already ready games. But it seems to me that this will be an additional reason for cheating. For example, a player can bet against himself and lose on purpose. If even in soccer rigged matches occur, then in computer games it is much easier to do.

It won't be easy for the average person who doesn't play the game much but knows the game because they don't know how to cheat the game. But casinos will not try to integrate something that can trigger cheating on their premises unless they have ensured everything is running well and no one will cheat, even if that is not guaranteed. Or maybe implementing such technology is still not possible for casinos so they would rather have games that many gamblers are used to playing. One day when the gambling industry grows even more rapidly, we will see that change.

casino cares nothing about this because since it will be about bet against bet then all they care is how much they will compensate from the event and this will not damage their site ,
but lets see what would be the result once this happens but Im afraid it will come any time soon.

Quote from: Casdinyard on December 21, 2022, 02:07:22 PM

I think it's a mix between people not really being comfortable to try new things, seeing as people are most eager to just stick with classic casino games like slots and roulettes plus card games, and a little of the fact that the main driver of casinos earning is by spending less, they wouldn't bother including games like that in their houses. Although licensing game companies like Bandai Namco to install fighting game machines like Tekken inside casinos could be good too, just don't know how the money part will work coz it could either be the two players paying whoever wins outright or a reward system similar to slots could be made.

but gamblers love to see and experience new chances to earn and win so this will attract players inside but of course with complete and clear rules.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 21, 2022, 07:14:41 PM

That'll be some sort of " wagering on a self-played games to win or lose", it'll be great. I'm not sure that these idea is being proposed for the first time as we already have digital games that could be played to win real cash, only that it isn't made to support every country's IP address... VPNs are totally restricted too.
The whole idea won't be profitable to the casino owners -- because the chances of winning everytime we bet is strictly high -- alright, take for instance we played ps4 together after placing a wager, how's it possible for we both to loose?? How's that gonna be set? So that the casino could possibly have some bucks as the normal loses goes? You seeeee.... It's not just possible that way dude. When you're loosing, I'm winning ....and they can't get away with the cash, I do.

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There's a way, just like what they do with sports and electronic games player versus player. Those types of games always have a winner, you don't really play against the house but play for the odds to win. The problem that I could only see is the lack of support which means a lack of gamblers, players, and funds that comes in so bookies won't handle these unpopular games since they won't make money even though they will just act like an escrow.
The first move should be the game making it to the trend or a hype, but who will pay to do that is the big question.

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Quote from: fzkto on December 21, 2022, 04:34:47 AM

Probably such features would not be implemented in regular video games because they are not only played by adults, but also by children. And that could lead to even more addiction. I'm sure such games won't be approved by x-box or PlayStation. About the regular casino games, probably people are used to the classics, so fighting for money in the browser is not popular, but maybe that will change in the future.

Maybe if implemented into gambling, it will only attract gamblers while the young generation under 17 years can not play in the casino and are very happy to play those games on PlayStation or X-Box. And it will limit the number of players playing the game so maybe the profit to the casino is not as much as other gambling games. But I don't know. The casino may create a new game inspired by the games on PlayStation or X-Box. So let's wait for technological developments in this gambling sector.

Probably with technology will not be difficult and most likely it is not difficult to implement in already ready games. But it seems to me that this will be an additional reason for cheating. For example, a player can bet against himself and lose on purpose. If even in soccer rigged matches occur, then in computer games it is much easier to do.

It won't be easy for the average person who doesn't play the game much but knows the game because they don't know how to cheat the game. But casinos will not try to integrate something that can trigger cheating on their premises unless they have ensured everything is running well and no one will cheat, even if that is not guaranteed. Or maybe implementing such technology is still not possible for casinos so they would rather have games that many gamblers are used to playing. One day when the gambling industry grows even more rapidly, we will see that change.

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Goodnight, ohh Leo!!! 🦅

That'll be some sort of " wagering on a self-played games to win or lose", it'll be great. I'm not sure that these idea is being proposed for the first time as we already have digital games that could be played to win real cash, only that it isn't made to support every country's IP address... VPNs are totally restricted too.
The whole idea won't be profitable to the casino owners -- because the chances of winning everytime we bet is strictly high -- alright, take for instance we played ps4 together after placing a wager, how's it possible for we both to loose?? How's that gonna be set? So that the casino could possibly have some bucks as the normal loses goes? You seeeee.... It's not just possible that way dude. When you're loosing, I'm winning ....and they can't get away with the cash, I do.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

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