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My point of view is that AI will change the productivity of labor instead of humans in some industries. This may happen in the near future. Consulting, online call center, ... are very likely to be unemployed and they will have to look for a change with other jobs. This will increase the unemployment rate for human resources in the long run. Something may have to be adjusted more appropriately, if we say that AI brings a worse world, it is not because AI brings high efficiency, stability, accuracy will help humans in a very large scope, each country will be responsible for balancing the suitability and applying AI to the general human resource situation.

Important for people to prepare in this situation since we there's really huge chance that AI will take over their jobs and for sure lots of corporation will prepare that since this will be the ideal technology to lower down the cost of their labor. So people should find good solution to seek for skills that can't replace by AI.

Unemployment might really happen if that situation came since for sure we can see a lot more innovation from AI technology in future. Lets do hope that there's regulation with this technology since this technology can really affect human life in terms of job take over.  There's should be a balance so there's no one will be left out around and people could still cope up with the market demand.

Here are pro's and cons of AI in job market https://www.linqto.com/blog/how-is-artificial-intelligence-impacting-the-job-market/ a really nice article to read.
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I do not think that we are going to get any worse just because of AI. We will get worse because we are already getting worse without AI, people who lived in the 60's didn't had what we had in technology, you didn't have world wide communication for free just to give an example, you didn't have reach to information as commonly as today, but also they didn't had any financial troubles as much as we did, they lived a happy life, a house, a car, two kids that go to college, all paid for by the time they are 40 and so forth. They retired fine as well, while we are having trouble buying even a car.

So, without AI we are getting worse, would it make it quicker? Maybe, depends on how good AI gets, the way it is right now won't make it quick because AI sucks right now, but if they can improve it, maybe it will help quicken the situation. So far, I believe that the best case would be just focusing on what we already have as issues, and not worry about future issues.


AI also has uses depending on whether we use it for something useful, and do not use things beyond that limit that will affect aspects of life, including AI, everything must have positive and negative sides that will be in the system, and of course it will not be separated from all of that.
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My point of view is that AI will change the productivity of labor instead of humans in some industries. This may happen in the near future. Consulting, online call center, ... are very likely to be unemployed and they will have to look for a change with other jobs. This will increase the unemployment rate for human resources in the long run. Something may have to be adjusted more appropriately, if we say that AI brings a worse world, it is not because AI brings high efficiency, stability, accuracy will help humans in a very large scope, each country will be responsible for balancing the suitability and applying AI to the general human resource situation.
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The OP title is actually contradictory and its provable by reference to history.  Many times over we have invented technology which has 'taken jobs' and every time its been a positive, even for the people displaced they gain overall as part of a richer society.

What this is actually referencing is efficiency which is the core of every successful competitive business.   We sometimes fail to learn in life that not coming first is not failure, to run compete and complete the race is a positive.  If we only go forward in life with the attitude that winner takes all and nobody is involved in the economy bar those at the very top then sure the tech makes us worse attitude will make more sense I guess.    Increasingly people are empowered, if we can just shed this nonsense government deficit debt economy of inflationary FIAT it will soon become obvious.
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I do not think that we are going to get any worse just because of AI. We will get worse because we are already getting worse without AI, people who lived in the 60's didn't had what we had in technology, you didn't have world wide communication for free just to give an example, you didn't have reach to information as commonly as today, but also they didn't had any financial troubles as much as we did, they lived a happy life, a house, a car, two kids that go to college, all paid for by the time they are 40 and so forth. They retired fine as well, while we are having trouble buying even a car.

So, without AI we are getting worse, would it make it quicker? Maybe, depends on how good AI gets, the way it is right now won't make it quick because AI sucks right now, but if they can improve it, maybe it will help quicken the situation. So far, I believe that the best case would be just focusing on what we already have as issues, and not worry about future issues.
If we look back that before digitalization, work was very easy and very comfortable, even just for work, someone who lives in a village can live happily and be able to send their children to school and have a decent life even though a car is a tertiary need that is difficult to obtain since long ago, but with the arrival of digitalization, work is made easier and automated so that job vacancies that can be replaced to increase efficiency and effectiveness of performance, many companies or other field structures are automated which makes the job market narrow today.

Maybe you are right that currently AI is still bad and cannot replace work, only helping work for the time being, but what is feared is when this AI can be better and can be employed by a company, then there will be a time for us to no longer hope for that job, we can only hope for jobs that cannot be done by AI at that time.
My thinking may be the opposite of yours, that I have to think about how AI is developing rapidly and we are not yet prepared for it, so it is better to think from now on to find a solution on how to survive in the era when AI becomes an alternative for an industry to employ it instead of humans.
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I do not think that we are going to get any worse just because of AI. We will get worse because we are already getting worse without AI, people who lived in the 60's didn't had what we had in technology, you didn't have world wide communication for free just to give an example, you didn't have reach to information as commonly as today, but also they didn't had any financial troubles as much as we did, they lived a happy life, a house, a car, two kids that go to college, all paid for by the time they are 40 and so forth. They retired fine as well, while we are having trouble buying even a car.

So, without AI we are getting worse, would it make it quicker? Maybe, depends on how good AI gets, the way it is right now won't make it quick because AI sucks right now, but if they can improve it, maybe it will help quicken the situation. So far, I believe that the best case would be just focusing on what we already have as issues, and not worry about future issues.
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I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet.  It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet.  When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it.  I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs.  It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things.
One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.
AI is very dangerous for the labourers because AI will work more than any labor. Machines can do work 24/7 but human can't do the work like a machine because machines are different from human. Machines are not Total alternative of human being because machines could not think creative . We will have a system to on and off the system but now we watching the labourers who are working are working in factories , they can suffer in future. In my country, people have no knowledge of entrepreneurship. People want to take wage only and they want to spend their money to buy food and useless for which Robert kiyosaki used the word liabilities.
We cant really be able to deny that technological advancement is really inevitable and there's no way that we could be able to avoid when it comes into this aspect on which we know that everything do changes overtime and with the development of AI is something that not shocking on which of course, industries will really be that making of use of this advancement for less cost and having that more efficiency
when it comes on doing jobs on which as a boss or company owner then you would definitely be considering on having that switch up because you do know on what would really be that impact towards into your business on which it will really be something beneficial for them. This is why its not really shocking that they will really be having those changes and its not really something shocking kind of decision.

They will prioritize things on which it would really be that something will really be that useful into your business and wont really be sticking into those outdated things. As for workers point of view then this is something that will really be that sad thing because lay offs or being that removed to the company would really be that common or something that will really be likely to happen. This is why on the time or moment
that you do find yourself having such potential problems about certain industries that might be replaced with AI then as a worker then you should really be finding up ways on finding jobs that wont really
that affected if ever that changes will really be that hapen. This is why on the time that you have those realizations then act wisely and early so that you wont be putting up into a difficult situation.
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I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet.  It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet.  When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it.  I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs.  It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things.
One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.
AI is very dangerous for the labourers because AI will work more than any labor. Machines can do work 24/7 but human can't do the work like a machine because machines are different from human. Machines are not Total alternative of human being because machines could not think creative . We will have a system to on and off the system but now we watching the labourers who are working are working in factories , they can suffer in future. In my country, people have no knowledge of entrepreneurship. People want to take wage only and they want to spend their money to buy food and useless for which Robert kiyosaki used the word liabilities.

@Argo - AI DOES NOT EXIST. It’s honestly amazing to me that everyone keeps using this term, despite the fact that they really don’t know what AI or AGI really is.  ChatGPT is NOT “AI”, it’s advanced programming. Also, it is SHIT.  It does not self learn. It spits out different and incorrect answers to the same exact questions being asked at times. You can literally ask it the same thing 5 times in 5 mins and get 5 completely different answers each time, that aren’t correct. Also, it literally can’t even do a basic google search.  It’s advanced programming in some aspects “Please write me a letter to send my boss as to why I can’t make it on the work trip” which is cool, but it’s so ridiculously limited.

Also, no question AI  (self learning/aware, autonomous) is coming.  Thats a fact and a matter of time, like with quantum computing.  BUT, neither technically exist yet. If you’ve seen the movie “Her”, now THAT is AI. That’s the type of thing we could almost assuredly expect from it, IMO anyhow.

Like Quantum computing, AI will completely change our lives. It could wipe us off the face of the earth. It could take a lot of jobs etc.  We can only speculate.


I’m so sick of hearing that “AI did this” for mf everything these days. No, it, didn’t.  

https://www.newyorker.com/science/annals-of-artificial-intelligence/there-is-no-ai
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I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet.  It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet.  When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it.  I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs.  It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things.
One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.
AI is very dangerous for the labourers because AI will work more than any labor. Machines can do work 24/7 but human can't do the work like a machine because machines are different from human. Machines are not Total alternative of human being because machines could not think creative . We will have a system to on and off the system but now we watching the labourers who are working are working in factories , they can suffer in future. In my country, people have no knowledge of entrepreneurship. People want to take wage only and they want to spend their money to buy food and useless for which Robert kiyosaki used the word liabilities.
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In as much as the use of AI is advancing day by day, there are still some certain things and activities that will really requires the supervision of humans. The use of AI cannot take over all part of the world no matter how rapid it might grow. Also, there are still some undeveloped countries which are still advancing in technologies today. So no need for panic over the use of AI.

Exactly yes we know that the use of AI is widespread across the nations of the world but we can't underestimate the importance of humans before it existed, tho all this AI technology and robots are helpful in many ways to ease and fasten the work  for man but I think it's not best allowing it take over every aspects of man's life.
And I see it that alot of people that really love the use of AI technology are been reluctant and clumsy enough to do what's needed of them so they require special hands which they have made AI dominated. So in the aspect of taking people jobs I think it'll have a huge effect on humans and gradually the world at large cause yes instead of paying man for menisk jobs they'll rather make use of AI and robotics machine to carry on the task which will result to alot of damages.
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Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? Cheesy
Maybe we shouldn't listen Elon too much. He doesn't have that good track record on making predictions:

* 2019 he said that there will be a million autonomous robotaxis by Tesla in 2020.

* Hyperloop was a flop, yet he kept on hyping it up to the end.

* Humans were supposed to be in mars by 2024.

* In 2020 he predicted that there will be “probably close to zero new cases” of covid 19 in United Stated by the end of April.

* 2016: In 2 years there will be autonomous cars driving across the US

I could probably keep on going, but those came first to mind. So believing his AI prediction doesn't make sense to me.
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Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? Cheesy

Do you really think that would happen? Few years seems to be a very short period of time. We have to many jobs that require hand labor or a human to operate, as well as to have a creativity approach. Some basic jobs can be replaced by AI, but until we have queues for service or product, there is no way AI is going to dominate.

Jobs which will still require human contact or human emotions are going to prevail also those jobs which require human creativity won't be taken by AIs.
It won't take a few years, but as politicians do not seem in a rush to address the surge of this technology, I am afraid we will indeed see more and more jobs getting replaced by machines, for the sake of increasing profits, in the end, that is the mentality of the CEOs and investors, to cut expenses as much as possible and maximize their gains, greed from companies is what will make these robots widespread, even if governments try to regulate them.
The first jobs which are likely to be take are those related to cleaning, management of trash, driving... among others, jobs which require imagination, human morality and empathy are the less likely to be taken by robots in the short term.
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One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.

AI must be regulated to prevent turning into a complete disaster in the long run. We don't want it to become self-sufficient, do we? If you've watched the Terminator movies, you'll know what I'm talking about. In a world dominated by AI, people will be more lazy and dumb enough to do things. That's what new technologies do. They improve our lives, but make us dumber in the long run. Who would want to take the time to learn how to do something new, when AI can do it all in a breeze? I know this is what the "Elites" want to maximize profits. It will give them more power/control than usual.

Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? Cheesy

Agree on this since to much adapting this technology will create huge crisis to humanity since it can take over everything especially those jobs which is important for people to survive. Being reliant on AI bring more downside that's why I really don't like to have wide usage of this technology even if this is so really useful to make the job or life of people easy. Those what you mean elites are the one who could benefit on this technology since they have more capabilities to do massive operation to create more better outputs by the help of this AI thing. If government will not do any action on this then lots of people will be left out and struggle to find good jobs since there would be a lot of competition to get those physical works available. Elon Musk statement is true and if there's no intervention or regulation done by government then provably that this will create a bigger problem to lots of people.
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If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

Don’t you think that the after effect of all this revolutionary technologies has already been viewed from the past before investing all this. I see that there are still limitations to how far this AI things will go and most people will still find themselves living the good life and getting their jobs like before. More technology means more demand for labour, so I don’t think it’ll make more people unemployed but rather make the workforce larger.

Also, with new technologies come new jobs and new demand, and we've seen it happen many times in the past. People just need to learn to be more adaptable and to be ready to learn new skills to get new jobs, and things will be fine.

This is the misconception people are having, where they get it allow wrong about new technological inventions trying to take over the works of the people. As the technology is thriving and we’re seeing new features yearly, so is the humans are suppose to be transgressing to be on the same level as the newest technologies and that’s the best way to survive and keep yourself relevant in this forever changing new inventory space.
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Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? Cheesy

Do you really think that would happen? Few years seems to be a very short period of time. We have to many jobs that require hand labor or a human to operate, as well as to have a creativity approach. Some basic jobs can be replaced by AI, but until we have queues for service or product, there is no way AI is going to dominate.

And speaking about cost-efficiency, I dont know how much it will cost to prepare specialists, that will create a program that will build an algorithm that will replace a human labor, test it, build a machine that will do the task, but I think it will cost a lot. That machine that makes French fries that we see some posts above. It only puts chopped fries down in oil, pulls out and put aside. Still it requires a human to load fries. Still that machine needs maintenance. And I doubt it cost cheap to create it.
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One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.

AI must be regulated to prevent turning into a complete disaster in the long run. We don't want it to become self-sufficient, do we? If you've watched the Terminator movies, you'll know what I'm talking about. In a world dominated by AI, people will be more lazy and dumb enough to do things. That's what new technologies do. They improve our lives, but make us dumber in the long run. Who would want to take the time to learn how to do something new, when AI can do it all in a breeze? I know this is what the "Elites" want to maximize profits. It will give them more power/control than usual.

Elon Musk said AI will replace human jobs in a few years, so you know where the world is heading to. Cost-efficiency and perfomance goes above all else, right? Cheesy
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The use of AI is not with bad intention to place havoc on human lives, instead, it was intended that we should enjoy the best of making our daily work come easier, the start from the things we do online and in physical, there have been many inventions that were ready to make us have the best experience from how we engage our daily routine works, AI is something we should forever be grateful on, because it brings about the simplicity of doing things.
AI has archived some major growth in its development and continued popularity, getting into various fields and accomplishing tasks faster and more efficiently. Now, we have robotic chiefs, cooks and most field of work could actually have bots to work its facilities to full functionality. If this would be a threat to people having jobs, no!

We would need people to keep building these apps, AI, bots, coming up with innovative ideas for the next big change. AI isn’t going to do that for us, only humans can. Some jobs are better done by humans and that’s what theses innovations can’t take away. They are a mare accessory to what we would accomplish and nothing more.
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The use of AI is not with bad intention to place havoc on human lives, instead, it was intended that we should enjoy the best of making our daily work come easier, the start from the things we do online and in physical, there have been many inventions that were ready to make us have the best experience from how we engage our daily routine works, AI is something we should forever be grateful on, because it brings about the simplicity of doing things.
Yes it's true.
AI has made works very easy, mostly workers that works in a digital company, an AI can help them to generate any image that they want, it will also help them through cyber securities. With an AI someone can easily generate any kind of content that he wants, mostly images. Actually, AI has helped a lot and it has reduced work loads. Back in those days when a camera man will enter an airplane just to make a video from a higher ground, but now movie industries doesn't need a camera man or a pilot to make a video, they can easily use a drone to video anything from anywhere of their choice. However this is just to say that the world is getting modernize and a lot of things are changing as day passes.
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The use of AI is not with bad intention to place havoc on human lives, instead, it was intended that we should enjoy the best of making our daily work come easier, the start from the things we do online and in physical, there have been many inventions that were ready to make us have the best experience from how we engage our daily routine works, AI is something we should forever be grateful on, because it brings about the simplicity of doing things.
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I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.

If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.



This is something that's causing a bit of tension in today's world but the best thing to do is pick a profession that can't be replaced by Ai because whether you like it or not there are some jobs that will always require human intellect, effort and input. This is actually something that's real and it's definitely going to happen but artificial intelligence cannot take over in every aspect after all they were created by humans. People can't go to ai's for therapy so this is a profession or job that can't be replaced and it will always require a human to do it, just like this job there are several others too
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