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Quote from: Argoo on September 10, 2024, 01:20:41 AM

One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.

I don't believe there will be enough work for people at all times like you mentioned, AI will replace many people and there will be job crisis.

some people said with every new technology there will be new job open up, but they don't seem to understand that the new job is too specialized for the average people and the job are getting fewer in amount, company employ AI to reduce company expense at the cost of reducing the job. there's no way company will open up job for the sake of opening up job to feel morally good after doing significant change to their company employing AI with the sole purpose of reducing employees.

AI is only useful for people that can afford it.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2024, 02:52:19 PM

I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet. It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet. When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it. I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs. It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things.

One thing is clear: AI is rapidly improving and will continue to do so in the future. This process has already been launched and is irreversible. Those who claim that AI is not capable of self-improvement and will not surpass human capabilities are wrong. If AI is very well controlled by humans, it will become very useful for humanity. And there is no need to worry about it taking away many jobs from people. There will be enough work for people at all times and at any level of development of technology and technology. People will be freed from monotonous heavy physical labor and will have the opportunity to engage in their own spiritual development. Of course, this will not happen quickly, but it is also wrong to think that this is a matter of the distant future.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on July 30, 2024, 09:52:01 AM

I don't think AI or robotics is in its infancy, everything has been tested for many years and it's time for it to be mass adopted. But I agree with you that AI will take away some of our jobs, but at the same time, it will also create some new jobs because they cannot solve all the jobs themselves without controlling people.

This is simply the development of our world, let's look at the positive side instead of looking at the negative side. Just like when the Internet appeared and email appeared, it completely eliminated communication through handwritten, typed letters. But that does not make post offices or postmen unemployed, they will be assigned different tasks.

AI will get worse once Quantum Computing takes the world by storm. Even with all the buzz surrounding AI, it has a long road ahead before it can replace everyday human jobs. So yes, it's still in its infancy. Same as Bitcoin which is only 15 years old. New technologies take time to develop and improve until they become a "force to reckon with". It's in the "Elites" plan to save costs and improve efficiency via the use of AI. We will need to find other ways to generate income in a fully-digitized world.

Which AI will take over the world, is an excellent question. It could be Elon Musk's Grok AI, Google's Gemini AI, or even Microsoft's Co-Pilot AI. The one that proves to be superior will be the one that will rule the world. Hopefully, it won't be Elon Musk's AI, or we'd be doomed. Cheesy

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Quote from: Mahanton on July 30, 2024, 08:36:18 AM

Changes is inevitable and this is something that cant really be avoided and this is why if you do see yourself having those potential problems in the future about getting laid off with your job and replaced by something automation then the best thing to be done is to find up for another one, but of course you shouldnt really be resigning or quitting not until you do find that another job on which you do see that it cant really be affected by such change. It would really be that so hard to predict on what would happen in the future. This is why actions be made or plans be making up will really be just that depending or basing on how well you do make up some considerations basing up on the things that you are really that doing. AI taking the jobs of people? For some industries then it would really happen but there are industries wont be affected.

Changes is inevitable but if its for the sake of comfort and easy access and efficiency then i dont really see up this thing to be that so bad.It would really be just that as a personal
point of view then you would really be thinking up careful on what are the back up plans on which you would be needing to do just in case.

If we do not want to follow the development of the times then we will be left behind and when we are not ready to face the sophistication it will have an impact on the life process that we live. The closest example is when the Smartphone was launched and humans unconsciously had to follow the trend, especially when talking about the future with a person's capacity to make money. Now there are several sectors that have been worked on by robots and all are operated by humans, only the limitations and number of human workers are reduced. So enjoy the development of technology and make it a motivation for us to adapt because no one is able to reject the development of the times and if forced we will be left behind and have difficulty.

Humans are much smarter than robots themselves because they were created by humans but it is impossible to group them comprehensively about intelligence for each person. Then what will prevent humans from developing and adapting, of course unnecessary fear because humans actually have much better abilities than robots themselves.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on July 25, 2024, 02:52:19 PM

I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet. It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet. When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it. I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs. It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things.

I don't think AI or robotics is in its infancy, everything has been tested for many years and it's time for it to be mass adopted. But I agree with you that AI will take away some of our jobs, but at the same time, it will also create some new jobs because they cannot solve all the jobs themselves without controlling people.

This is simply the development of our world, let's look at the positive side instead of looking at the negative side. Just like when the Internet appeared and email appeared, it completely eliminated communication through handwritten, typed letters. But that does not make post offices or postmen unemployed, they will be assigned different tasks.

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Quote from: dunfida on July 24, 2024, 09:34:41 AM

Why would really be hating if we do speak or talk about progress or changes? Just like on what everyone is really that saying on here that if we do speak about innovation then it will really be bringing out that kind of
benefit for humankind but we do know that in every positive, there's always a negative side of it on which its been stated about loss of particular jobs on which some people would really be affected but for the sake
of those changes and benefits then it is something that inevitable and lets just accept this fate. Instead on freaking out yourself on having such change, then why not really be finding up some alternatives rather than cry?

Agree into those words above that there would really be industries that will be affected and there are ones which couldnt because it will really be still needing up that manpower instead of robotics
or in full automation. This is why it would really be that recommended that if you do find yourself on an industry which could potentially be replaced then it will really be just that sensible
that you do look for other ways or alternatives.

Ready, hate or not we have to keep up with the times because otherwise we will be increasingly lagging and difficult to deal with the increasingly developed technological sophistication conditions. Every development and every innovation must have a negative and positive side depending on how humans can adjust. No one can reject technology or innovation that continues to develop because we live in a world full of new things, all things become an opportunity as long as humans want to adapt to these problems.

Alternatives that can be sought for how we should continue to grow when technology and innovation are growing. Technology is also not created by itself because it needs innovation and ideas to be created, why not think to create these innovations or why not think of utilizing technological innovations for the supporting needs of the work we live.

Changes is inevitable and this is something that cant really be avoided and this is why if you do see yourself having those potential problems in the future about getting laid off with your job and replaced by something automation then the best thing to be done is to find up for another one, but of course you shouldnt really be resigning or quitting not until you do find that another job on which you do see that it cant really be affected by such change. It would really be that so hard to predict on what would happen in the future. This is why actions be made or plans be making up will really be just that depending or basing on how well you do make up some considerations basing up on the things that you are really that doing. AI taking the jobs of people? For some industries then it would really happen but there are industries wont be affected.

Changes is inevitable but if its for the sake of comfort and easy access and efficiency then i dont really see up this thing to be that so bad.It would really be just that as a personal
point of view then you would really be thinking up careful on what are the back up plans on which you would be needing to do just in case.

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Quote from: Solosanz on June 30, 2024, 06:07:39 AM

I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.

If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

The world governments are not foolish, they understand the importance of labour to the economy, and they often call world meetings due to the context here so that it will be moderated and regulated. The snatching of the labour force started many years ago unsuspected and one of these is ATM snatching it. Though ATM machines have better productivity than humans and can work 24 hours too, it still reduces the staff of banks whether we like it or not.

Initially, you might see at least 10 bank tellers in a roll in most banks in my country, but now, you may only see 3 or 4 active ones because the ATM has silently taken the job. If allowed to continue in many other sectors, truly, people will revolt as a "hungry man is an angry man." This, the government will not allow to happen as human lives and standard of living are more precious than that of robots and AIs.

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Quote from: jaberwock on July 20, 2024, 03:22:23 PM

Being afraid of something like this doesn't make sense to me, it just doesn't feel like we are fearing something realistic. I understand that we are looking at something that will take some time, but we are also talking about something that is not really that fearful yet neither.

We are basically fearing what it can do in the future, we are not fearing what it does right now, and that is the traditional definition of anxiety. I do not feel like anxiety makes sense, because we are talking about something that will be very hard to do, it is going to do something harder to achieve. So all in all we could just see what we can do, and for that reason I believe that we shouldn't be worried for something that hasn't happened yet.

What is said about fear or anxiety is actually exactly as you have presented it. And those who give more importance to the present can enjoy the present and can be happy. But over the ages people of the world have thought about the future some have thought for themselves and others have thought for future generations. So it could be that overuse of technology can be a threat to labor workers as artificial growth reduces labor which can displace workers. However artificial augmentation is not really a cause for much concern because if it is so harmful surely the world representatives will regulate the use of artificial intelligence.

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Quote from: Solosanz on June 30, 2024, 06:07:39 AM

I saw a video on my social media there's a restaurant that using AI and almost 100% automated, I thought it's a new video, but actually it has been around for six months.

If this trend keep continue, what the world would be? many people will become unemployed and not all people can become engineers. Middle class people will become poor as they don't get decent jobs, will we see a big revolution that the poor to clash against the rich?

I'm not sure if this happen in your country or not, but in my country most companies don't want to make their employees become permanent workers anymore, they only want contract workers because the companies don't have to give compensation to fired contract workers.

I understand that permanent workers are just a "myth", but if the companies suffer bad financial and want to reduce the employees, they would fire the contract workers first, so permanent workers are safer.

There's a possibility that this could happen, we can already see that ai has a lot of potentials to do a lot more in the future and as such some jobs will no longer require humans to it, but still there are jobs that can't be replaced with artificial intelligence, jobs that can't be done by robots or humans, it's important to venture into careers that would need human input only presently and also in the future, working online too has been improved by artificial intelligence, but not all aspects require it, for example wheat you do on this forum strictly requires human experience and intelligence only , identify those areas that can't be replaced so it doesn't affect you..

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Quote from: dunfida on July 24, 2024, 09:34:41 AM

Why would really be hating if we do speak or talk about progress or changes? Just like on what everyone is really that saying on here that if we do speak about innovation then it will really be bringing out that kind of
benefit for humankind but we do know that in every positive, there's always a negative side of it on which its been stated about loss of particular jobs on which some people would really be affected but for the sake
of those changes and benefits then it is something that inevitable and lets just accept this fate. Instead on freaking out yourself on having such change, then why not really be finding up some alternatives rather than cry?

Agree into those words above that there would really be industries that will be affected and there are ones which couldnt because it will really be still needing up that manpower instead of robotics
or in full automation. This is why it would really be that recommended that if you do find yourself on an industry which could potentially be replaced then it will really be just that sensible
that you do look for other ways or alternatives.

Ready, hate or not we have to keep up with the times because otherwise we will be increasingly lagging and difficult to deal with the increasingly developed technological sophistication conditions. Every development and every innovation must have a negative and positive side depending on how humans can adjust. No one can reject technology or innovation that continues to develop because we live in a world full of new things, all things become an opportunity as long as humans want to adapt to these problems.

Alternatives that can be sought for how we should continue to grow when technology and innovation are growing. Technology is also not created by itself because it needs innovation and ideas to be created, why not think to create these innovations or why not think of utilizing technological innovations for the supporting needs of the work we live.

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I think its important to first off understand that AI doesn't actually exist yet. It's in it's infancy and not real AI, or AGI yet. When that day comes it really is hard to say what's actually going to be affected by it. I think that it will certainly "take" some jobs but I think in other ways it might help create jobs. It's a hard call to say for sure either way until we actually see it for ourselves and see how it truly effects things.

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Quote from: Questat on July 22, 2024, 05:57:28 AM

It can never be deny that nowadays, AI is starting to replace some human jobs, and whether we like it or not, AI will continue to develop and become more advanced, thus losing more jobs for humans but giving more job opportunities for AI.

While this can be a threat in the near future, but it can somehow serves as a challenge to all workers to become more focused and resilient in doing their jobs. That way, employers will find no courage to replace these people with AI, even though we all know not all human jobs are replaceable by AI.

You mean like replacing artists? Yes, Generative AI is now capable of doing this. People can generate art by just typing a few words on screen (also known as text prompts). Models like StableDiffusion, DALL-E, etc allow this. And that's not all. AI is also capable of generating content like resumes, essays, books, and more.

Not only the tech will replace human jobs, but it will also make humans more sluggish and dumber (people won't bother to learn how to do things on their own). I guess this is what governments and "Elites" want, right? Let's pray AI doesn't become much of a threat as Terminator's Skynet. Else, we'd be doomed. Sad

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Quote from: Mate2237 on July 24, 2024, 01:09:33 PM

No. AI can't take over human jobs and this question has been asked time without number. Even last two days in this forum. In 2009 Facebook, 2GO, Yahoo Messenger, Skype and other social media. And students Google Search Engine to look for information and do their home works and assignments. And this question was asked in classes. If computer will take over human jobs and we said no. And till today I still say no.

Computer is programmed and they can't produce what is not inside them but human beings thinks beyond what has been known.

AI can replace humans in certain roles. Tech companies like those you mentioned have cut down their workforce in the last four years and have automated those jobs. Companies are willing to embrace AI as it will mean less staff and less salaries to be paid. You are greatly mistaken if you think AI cannot take your jobs. However AI can’t replace humans when it comes to jobs that require creativity and human empathy because they do not feel and can only interact with humans in a chatbot manner.

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No. AI can't take over human jobs and this question has been asked time without number. Even last two days in this forum. In 2009 Facebook, 2GO, Yahoo Messenger, Skype and other social media. And students Google Search Engine to look for information and do their home works and assignments. And this question was asked in classes. If computer will take over human jobs and we said no. And till today I still say no.

Computer is programmed and they can't produce what is not inside them but human beings thinks beyond what has been known.

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Quote from: eightdots on July 23, 2024, 04:24:06 PM

Quote from: Natalim on July 23, 2024, 12:22:14 PM

AI may undoubtedly replace our jobs in the future but there are still some certain jobs that are irreplaceable by AI particularly those social work jobs, performing arts and even those musicians and real life judges as they can never be taken advantage by AI. However, if in the future AI will be able to perform our own jobs, thus losing our own jobs but rest assured there will also be some opening jobs for other sectors which still create new opportunities for us jobless.

Artificial intelligence is not available in every business field. Many areas where human labor is used will continue to exist. Especially the fact that many business lines cannot keep up with today's technology shows that they stick to traditional methods. It is very difficult for artificial intelligence to show its presence in all these sectors. There are people who will worry, but I think there will always be a need for people in business.

With the use of artificial intelligence in the business sector, different jobs will emerge. Just as there are many things that were before but are not now, there are many things that are now and will not be in the future.

AI taking jobs is making everyone crazy, but it's not that big of a deal. Jobs change every time technology gets better. Yes, some jobs are lost, but new ones are always being made. What is this AI thing? It's not about taking our place; it's about working with us to make what we can do even better. This is how people are made: to adapt. AI is just the next task, the next chance to get better. Don't worry about keeping what you already have; instead, build what will come next. Accept AI, and let's make a world where technology makes our lives better, more connected, and a lot more fun

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Quote from: barisbilgili on July 23, 2024, 01:25:34 AM

It is absolutely true that everything comes back to oneself to be able to adjust and also adapt to current developments so that many things must be learned as is needed in an advanced era like today, and it is true that there is no need to be afraid of this because if we If we want to try then we can get whatever we want.

Poverty is quite difficult to explain, sometimes there are people who find it difficult to get out of this situation, even though we can eliminate a large percentage of poverty if we really try hard.

Fear is natural because of human nature which is always worried about the process of his life journey. The era continues to develop, technology is getting more sophisticated and humans will think about innovation. We must be able to place ourselves in every condition so that we can adapt to whatever will happen in the future. Without any preparation we are not able to live a much better life and waiting for the process of change that occurs naturally is a lazy person's decision. Poverty must be seen as a way to improve ourselves and if today we are still in that circle then find a way to get out of it.

Don't expect help from the government or anyone to get out of poverty because in fact we ourselves must move to find a way. Make a business or anything to make money and keep doing it consistently because that is how we will be able to create stability regarding money. Do an evaluation every time we get something unexpected and fix it in a much better way.

Why would really be hating if we do speak or talk about progress or changes? Just like on what everyone is really that saying on here that if we do speak about innovation then it will really be bringing out that kind of
benefit for humankind but we do know that in every positive, there's always a negative side of it on which its been stated about loss of particular jobs on which some people would really be affected but for the sake
of those changes and benefits then it is something that inevitable and lets just accept this fate. Instead on freaking out yourself on having such change, then why not really be finding up some alternatives rather than cry?

Agree into those words above that there would really be industries that will be affected and there are ones which couldnt because it will really be still needing up that manpower instead of robotics
or in full automation. This is why it would really be that recommended that if you do find yourself on an industry which could potentially be replaced then it will really be just that sensible
that you do look for other ways or alternatives.

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Quote from: Agbamoni on July 23, 2024, 04:27:00 PM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 19, 2024, 06:53:18 PM

Everyone is disposable, no matter how important anyone thinks they or anyone else is to a company; that, coupled with (mainly public) companies' laser focus on the bottom line leaves me with no doubt that if an employee that needs vacation days, sick time, bonuses, or even a friggin' lunch break and can be replaced by AI, they will be.

I don't know if AI is going to make corporations run better, but if it eventually displaces enough workers, those people are still going to have to eat. That could lead to anything from an increase in crime to a massive increase in taxes (hopefully imposed on the corporations themselves) to subsidize assistance programs. At this point, it's all just guesswork. Fifty of us can predict 51 different outcomes, and it'll be the 52nd that actually happens.

Nevertheless, fuck AI.

I agree with you. Anyone can be disposable because no one is too important and as time changes there becomes evolvement in each area of specialization. If an individual does not upskill, follow up on industry trends, and stay updated on information in their sector then he will be left out soon in the system. People say AI replace their jobs for example graphics designer and website designer. But it did not, there are still a lot of designers out there and most of them are not hired because of the usual design they do but because they have adopted the use of AI to make their level of productivity and work output faster and more accurate. In a nutshell, AI only assists in making one's job easy and faster to do and not replace it. Because the AI still need humans prompt and management.

This is true and this is the paradox of any such complex mechanism or technology. Yes, we can put robots in factories, we can see how AI creates cultural values, but who will maintain all this?
For every worker noticed, an AI or complex machine maintenance worker will be needed. Thus, the qualifications of the workers themselves must increase so that they remain fit for work.
But AI will not completely replace them.

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Quote from: barisbilgili on July 23, 2024, 01:25:34 AM

It is absolutely true that everything comes back to oneself to be able to adjust and also adapt to current developments so that many things must be learned as is needed in an advanced era like today, and it is true that there is no need to be afraid of this because if we If we want to try then we can get whatever we want.

Poverty is quite difficult to explain, sometimes there are people who find it difficult to get out of this situation, even though we can eliminate a large percentage of poverty if we really try hard.

Fear is natural because of human nature which is always worried about the process of his life journey. The era continues to develop, technology is getting more sophisticated and humans will think about innovation. We must be able to place ourselves in every condition so that we can adapt to whatever will happen in the future. Without any preparation we are not able to live a much better life and waiting for the process of change that occurs naturally is a lazy person's decision. Poverty must be seen as a way to improve ourselves and if today we are still in that circle then find a way to get out of it.

Don't expect help from the government or anyone to get out of poverty because in fact we ourselves must move to find a way. Make a business or anything to make money and keep doing it consistently because that is how we will be able to create stability regarding money. Do an evaluation every time we get something unexpected and fix it in a much better way.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 19, 2024, 06:53:18 PM

Everyone is disposable, no matter how important anyone thinks they or anyone else is to a company; that, coupled with (mainly public) companies' laser focus on the bottom line leaves me with no doubt that if an employee that needs vacation days, sick time, bonuses, or even a friggin' lunch break and can be replaced by AI, they will be.

I don't know if AI is going to make corporations run better, but if it eventually displaces enough workers, those people are still going to have to eat. That could lead to anything from an increase in crime to a massive increase in taxes (hopefully imposed on the corporations themselves) to subsidize assistance programs. At this point, it's all just guesswork. Fifty of us can predict 51 different outcomes, and it'll be the 52nd that actually happens.

Nevertheless, fuck AI.

I agree with you. Anyone can be disposable because no one is too important and as time changes there becomes evolvement in each area of specialization. If an individual does not upskill, follow up on industry trends, and stay updated on information in their sector then he will be left out soon in the system. People say AI replace their jobs for example graphics designer and website designer. But it did not, there are still a lot of designers out there and most of them are not hired because of the usual design they do but because they have adopted the use of AI to make their level of productivity and work output faster and more accurate. In a nutshell, AI only assists in making one's job easy and faster to do and not replace it. Because the AI still need humans prompt and management.

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Quote from: Natalim on July 23, 2024, 12:22:14 PM

AI may undoubtedly replace our jobs in the future but there are still some certain jobs that are irreplaceable by AI particularly those social work jobs, performing arts and even those musicians and real life judges as they can never be taken advantage by AI. However, if in the future AI will be able to perform our own jobs, thus losing our own jobs but rest assured there will also be some opening jobs for other sectors which still create new opportunities for us jobless.

Artificial intelligence is not available in every business field. Many areas where human labor is used will continue to exist. Especially the fact that many business lines cannot keep up with today's technology shows that they stick to traditional methods. It is very difficult for artificial intelligence to show its presence in all these sectors. There are people who will worry, but I think there will always be a need for people in business.

With the use of artificial intelligence in the business sector, different jobs will emerge. Just as there are many things that were before but are not now, there are many things that are now and will not be in the future.

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