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Quote from: nimogsm on May 31, 2023, 01:24:19 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 31, 2023, 11:47:53 AM

Does anyone here lost their job already due to chat gpt? I guess not and people just create panic. I dont think it will destroy “job market” (what ever it means lol Grin

) but it will rebalance demanded and less demanded jobs. I think we already had things like that, when we had to many of so called “finansists” and shortage of those who knew how to work “with hands”. Now we have too many guys in IT sector. I guess we dont need so many keyboard clickers anymore Grin

Absolutely agree with you. I have not yet heard about the fact that someone cut the work or replaced it. For that, I have heard many times about the fact that the gpt chat simplifies the work with the same writing of various texts and no one complains about it. At the moment it's just a handy tool that simplifies the work, I don't see it as a threat.

Currently, chatGPT or AI is still in the development stage, they have not been able to replace us, but with their constant growth rate. Are they a threat? That is well worth considering. I think that, besides the positive effects, there will also be negative impacts in some areas. The field of AI is vast, not just what chatgpt is doing. If they can make progress like sci-fi movies, that's the real threat to us, don't take AI lightly.

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Quote from: Cling18 on May 31, 2023, 01:54:00 PM

Quote from: nimogsm on May 31, 2023, 01:24:19 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 31, 2023, 11:47:53 AM

Does anyone here lost their job already due to chat gpt? I guess not and people just create panic. I dont think it will destroy “job market” (what ever it means lol Grin

) but it will rebalance demanded and less demanded jobs. I think we already had things like that, when we had to many of so called “finansists” and shortage of those who knew how to work “with hands”. Now we have too many guys in IT sector. I guess we dont need so many keyboard clickers anymore Grin

Absolutely agree with you. I have not yet heard about the fact that someone cut the work or replaced it. For that, I have heard many times about the fact that the gpt chat simplifies the work with the same writing of various texts and no one complains about it. At the moment it's just a handy tool that simplifies the work, I don't see it as a threat.

To be honest, Chatgpt has actually designed several jobs for users for completion, whether for work or educational objectives.
As some may believe, I don't believe it could completely replace workforce development. Modern technological innovation is progressive, and we must accept it. We should view it as an advantage rather than a threat. The existence of AIs is beyond our control, but we can embrace and prepare for whatever challenges they might bring in the future. However, we must acknowledge the fact that AIs will never be as intelligent as humans.

there are possibilities because remember before factory worker replaced by machines as it is more efficient and fast and dont rest, but again not all have this , it will be the same with the current situation others may lost a job but others dont , what best right now are those who has skills in technology will have more jobs and got more in demand , but again it is an innovation for us to improve so i do also see this as an advantage to us even right now i am using it while at work

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Chatgpt can destroy a market that competes with it, but not a job market. When chatgpt dropped, people thought it'll take the job from writers, and it turned out to be an assistant to facilitate writing. Chatgpt can help many people execute their tasks easily in form of a conversation, unlike google that provides answers for a person to read. Chatgpt creates a recurring information that can make the reader to remember their questions. However, AI generally can take up the job market because everyone wants a fast and easy action, that's why companies go for AI they won't have to control human beings but robots. As time creeps by the AI industry would keep advancing and some niches can get affected.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on May 31, 2023, 02:35:34 PM

Personally, I believe that their development can easily take a turn for the worse; imagine what else they'll be able to do in a matter of a few years. Is there any guarantee that their power will solely be used to assist humanity?

Of course, the development of artificial intelligence already brings many benefits and conveniences to people. But do not forget that it also poses a huge danger of destroying humanity. Many scientists and technology industry leaders, including top Google and Microsoft experts, have already issued a warning about the dangers posed by AI. Some even compare artificial intelligence to a nuclear bomb.
Concerns that AI systems could outsmart humans and get out of control have intensified with the advent of a new generation of high-performance AI chatbots like ChatGPT. This has caused countries around the world to struggle to develop regulations for emerging technologies, with the European Union backing the initiative. The Artificial Intelligence Law is expected to be approved later this year.
The events set forth in the famous movie "Terminator" have an absolutely real basis to happen.

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Each has its pros and cons, so AI technology is no exception. So AI can have both positive and negative effects, depending on its application and usage. When used for the right purposes, AI has the potential to enhance efficiency and help workers focus on the more complex and creative aspects of their work, leading to increased productivity and innovation. But when in the wrong hands or applied without the right ethical considerations, AI can actually be harmful. So approach AI appropriately so that you can exploit its potential benefits while minimizing the risks and negative impacts it can bring.

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Quote from: Iadegbola34 on May 31, 2023, 02:26:13 PM

AI can automate certain tasks and streamline processes, which may lead to changes in the workforce. However, history shows that technological advancements have often created new opportunities and job roles that were previously unimaginable. The implementation of AI technology in the workplace could lead to a shift in job requirements and the need for reskilling or upskilling. Instead of completely replacing humans, AI systems, such as ChatGPT, could serve as valuable tools to enhance productivity and decision-making.

That's flawed logic. The fact that something didn't happen in the past is in no way a guarantee that it will not happen in the future. Unprecedented things, bigger or smaller, are occurring all the time, that's nothing unusual.

Sure, it's possible that AI could actually create more jobs for humans, but automation is inevitable. It's easy to grasp if you dehumanise people and think of us as biological robots, that have limited abilities, consume quite high amounts of energy and are not really optimised for any task, making us easy to replace.

I don't recall any serious commentator/analytic/expert still believing that we are somehow, magically impossible to be replaced.

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Quote from: komisariatku on May 31, 2023, 02:54:34 PM

Quote from: Ultegra134 on May 31, 2023, 02:35:34 PM

It's still very early to come to such a conclusion; don't forget that most AI services are still in a beta experimental phase, and they're far from perfect. As I mentioned earlier, ChatGPT is powerful, but not powerful enough (yet) to take over humans. Other AI applications, however, are much more capable and advanced, which is the frightening part. AI is far from being fully developed, and it has already proven to have immense capabilities in our hands with just a few clicks—something that we could have never imagined a year or two ago. It's only been a few months since ChatGPT was founded, and their development since then has been massive. Just imagine what else we'll see just by the end of this year.

Personally, I believe that their development can easily take a turn for the worse; imagine what else they'll be able to do in a matter of a few years. Is there any guarantee that their power will solely be used to assist humanity?

I agree with you. ChatGPT is only the beginning of a nightmare, how many industrial workers have now been replaced with robotic systems? That's just a robot system, AI will be more sophisticated than that. If robotics can only replace repetitive human tasks, then AI will be able to do the same things as humans.

AI doesn't complain when it's working, it doesn't get tired, it doesn't get hungry, it doesn't ask to be paid, It's a sweet dream for every industry. Production costs will become very cheap with AI technology. Who will use humans in industrial systems if AI has that advantage?
Maybe not all workers will be replaced by AI technology, but many workers will lose their jobs. If that happens, then the nightmare becomes reality. Remember, technology develops at a very fast pace. Maybe that nightmare will happen soon, another 5 or 10 years seems to be enough for AI to become very sophisticated.

I don't want that to happen, but it looks like AI technology is heading in that direction

There's no way on stopping it and we are really that heading on there on which it would really be just that understandable that there would be lots of workers would be affected. Whether we do like it or not on which
technological advancement is something that cant really be stop nor really that could happen.We've seen the initial steps and its impossible that it wouldnt really be enhanced furthermore on upcoming years to come.
This is why if you are a worker which you do seem that it could be potentially be replaced by an AI then its better on starting now to find up other sources of income on which you could be able to depend with.
We wouldnt know on what the future holds for us whether we would be laid out or would really be remaining into our spots for long time but we know that industries and to those owners would really be going into those
options on which they could possible be able to make those huge savings on making use of AI where we know that on each business which is really that trying out to achieve and it wont be shocking thing if
suddenly they would really be making out those kind of announcement or laying off employees.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on May 31, 2023, 02:35:34 PM

It's still very early to come to such a conclusion; don't forget that most AI services are still in a beta experimental phase, and they're far from perfect. As I mentioned earlier, ChatGPT is powerful, but not powerful enough (yet) to take over humans. Other AI applications, however, are much more capable and advanced, which is the frightening part. AI is far from being fully developed, and it has already proven to have immense capabilities in our hands with just a few clicks—something that we could have never imagined a year or two ago. It's only been a few months since ChatGPT was founded, and their development since then has been massive. Just imagine what else we'll see just by the end of this year.

Personally, I believe that their development can easily take a turn for the worse; imagine what else they'll be able to do in a matter of a few years. Is there any guarantee that their power will solely be used to assist humanity?

I agree with you. ChatGPT is only the beginning of a nightmare, how many industrial workers have now been replaced with robotic systems? That's just a robot system, AI will be more sophisticated than that. If robotics can only replace repetitive human tasks, then AI will be able to do the same things as humans.

AI doesn't complain when it's working, it doesn't get tired, it doesn't get hungry, it doesn't ask to be paid, It's a sweet dream for every industry. Production costs will become very cheap with AI technology. Who will use humans in industrial systems if AI has that advantage?
Maybe not all workers will be replaced by AI technology, but many workers will lose their jobs. If that happens, then the nightmare becomes reality. Remember, technology develops at a very fast pace. Maybe that nightmare will happen soon, another 5 or 10 years seems to be enough for AI to become very sophisticated.

I don't want that to happen, but it looks like AI technology is heading in that direction

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Quote from: nimogsm on May 31, 2023, 01:24:19 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 31, 2023, 11:47:53 AM

Does anyone here lost their job already due to chat gpt? I guess not and people just create panic. I dont think it will destroy “job market” (what ever it means lol Grin

) but it will rebalance demanded and less demanded jobs. I think we already had things like that, when we had to many of so called “finansists” and shortage of those who knew how to work “with hands”. Now we have too many guys in IT sector. I guess we dont need so many keyboard clickers anymore Grin

Absolutely agree with you. I have not yet heard about the fact that someone cut the work or replaced it. For that, I have heard many times about the fact that the gpt chat simplifies the work with the same writing of various texts and no one complains about it. At the moment it's just a handy tool that simplifies the work, I don't see it as a threat.

It's still very early to come to such a conclusion; don't forget that most AI services are still in a beta experimental phase, and they're far from perfect. As I mentioned earlier, ChatGPT is powerful, but not powerful enough (yet) to take over humans. Other AI applications, however, are much more capable and advanced, which is the frightening part. AI is far from being fully developed, and it has already proven to have immense capabilities in our hands with just a few clicks—something that we could have never imagined a year or two ago. It's only been a few months since ChatGPT was founded, and their development since then has been massive. Just imagine what else we'll see just by the end of this year.

Personally, I believe that their development can easily take a turn for the worse; imagine what else they'll be able to do in a matter of a few years. Is there any guarantee that their power will solely be used to assist humanity?

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AI can automate certain tasks and streamline processes, which may lead to changes in the workforce. However, history shows that technological advancements have often created new opportunities and job roles that were previously unimaginable. The implementation of AI technology in the workplace could lead to a shift in job requirements and the need for reskilling or upskilling. Instead of completely replacing humans, AI systems, such as ChatGPT, could serve as valuable tools to enhance productivity and decision-making.

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Quote from: terencio on May 31, 2023, 01:56:34 PM

It is true that ChatGPT has gained a lot of popularity since its launch in November last year. While some people may worry that this technology will destroy the job market, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman believes that the technology will never destroy the job market. Rather, this technology will solve things that people never knew about.

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It is true that ChatGPT has gained a lot of popularity since its launch in November last year. While some people may worry that this technology will destroy the job market, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman believes that the technology will never destroy the job market. Rather, this technology will solve things that people never knew about.

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Quote from: nimogsm on May 31, 2023, 01:24:19 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 31, 2023, 11:47:53 AM

Does anyone here lost their job already due to chat gpt? I guess not and people just create panic. I dont think it will destroy “job market” (what ever it means lol Grin

) but it will rebalance demanded and less demanded jobs. I think we already had things like that, when we had to many of so called “finansists” and shortage of those who knew how to work “with hands”. Now we have too many guys in IT sector. I guess we dont need so many keyboard clickers anymore Grin

Absolutely agree with you. I have not yet heard about the fact that someone cut the work or replaced it. For that, I have heard many times about the fact that the gpt chat simplifies the work with the same writing of various texts and no one complains about it. At the moment it's just a handy tool that simplifies the work, I don't see it as a threat.

To be honest, Chatgpt has actually designed several jobs for users for completion, whether for work or educational objectives.
As some may believe, I don't believe it could completely replace workforce development. Modern technological innovation is progressive, and we must accept it. We should view it as an advantage rather than a threat. The existence of AIs is beyond our control, but we can embrace and prepare for whatever challenges they might bring in the future. However, we must acknowledge the fact that AIs will never be as intelligent as humans.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 31, 2023, 11:47:53 AM

Does anyone here lost their job already due to chat gpt? I guess not and people just create panic. I dont think it will destroy “job market” (what ever it means lol Grin

) but it will rebalance demanded and less demanded jobs. I think we already had things like that, when we had to many of so called “finansists” and shortage of those who knew how to work “with hands”. Now we have too many guys in IT sector. I guess we dont need so many keyboard clickers anymore Grin

Absolutely agree with you. I have not yet heard about the fact that someone cut the work or replaced it. For that, I have heard many times about the fact that the gpt chat simplifies the work with the same writing of various texts and no one complains about it. At the moment it's just a handy tool that simplifies the work, I don't see it as a threat.

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Does anyone here lost their job already due to chat gpt? I guess not and people just create panic. I dont think it will destroy “job market” (what ever it means lol Grin

) but it will rebalance demanded and less demanded jobs. I think we already had things like that, when we had to many of so called “finansists” and shortage of those who knew how to work “with hands”. Now we have too many guys in IT sector. I guess we dont need so many keyboard clickers anymore Grin

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Quote from: rat03gopoh on May 31, 2023, 10:44:42 AM

I don't think that all aspects of the business will be shifted by the role of AI, humans can still excel in several things, especially responsibility in failure. Sometimes AI can't solve completely new problems that have nothing to do with their past learning, so to solve them they even need to fail without considering the consequences of failure. However, there are concerns on several fronts.

I think that artificial intelligence will help create new jobs for people.

Each person is at the same time a creator - an experimenter and a keeper of normative rules (instructions, mathematical formulas, standards and other baggage of knowledge accumulated by previous generations of mankind).

In the future, we will see a symbiosis of people and artificial intelligence (perhaps in the form of various robots). At the same time, robots will take over all the boring work, and people will be creative, experiment and break the rules.

Artificial intelligence will be an excellent assistant for people and will stimulate them to creative and productive work. There will be 10 billion people and about 1 trillion robots and other forms of artificial intelligence on planet Earth at the same time.

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I don't think that all aspects of the business will be shifted by the role of AI, humans can still excel in several things, especially responsibility in failure. Sometimes AI can't solve completely new problems that have nothing to do with their past learning, so to solve them they even need to fail without considering the consequences of failure. However, there are concerns on several fronts.

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I think that chatGPT is a start, in the future there will be more AI that is more sophisticated and can do everything. This is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, it can be very useful for humans, but on the other hand, it will shift humans themselves.

I really believe that in the future workers will be replaced by AI. Currently there are many sectors that are done by robots. Especially if AI becomes more sophisticated, more workers will be unemployed. Some jobs that might be replaced by AI, such as: front desk employees, editors and proofreaders, accounting, drivers, couriers, etc.

In the future there will be more and more challenges. Only people who have high creativity will survive. Technological knowledge will be very useful in the future. Maybe the conventional lifestyle will no longer apply, in the future there will be no more offices, everything will be done remotely at home or in a cafe. Maybe, this is just my opinion.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on May 30, 2023, 06:29:36 PM

I saw an analogy that is a perfect fit for this question a few days ago.

Some might saw this already, but in a Facebook post, there's 2 pictures where the picture on the left is a photographer that's in a helicopter, and the picture on the right is a drone. In that, there's a caption that says "In just 10 years, the photographer losses his job."

I can't find the post, and I don't know the exact caption either, but the point is if you will not adopt to your environment, chances of you losing your job really is high. ChatGPT might destroy, and totally replace some of the jobs out there, but on the other hand, those who are expert in using ChatGPT will see this is a new opportunity for them to find a job. Many people might lose their job, but if they will adopt, and learn how to use ChatGPT on their advantage, and maximize it, they will not lose their job for sure.

Technology really is evolving, and on a rapid pace, and people must adopt into it, and maximize it thus, they might really lose their jobs.

ChatGPT itself won't, but AI technology will, at some point and in some fields, replace humans. Firstly, have you seen the new Photoshop beta version? It's capable of generating AI content with a few clicks, so even a newbie can perform tedious processes that he otherwise couldn't because he lacked the necessary knowledge. Certainly, it's a great tool that I'd also make great use of, but it can make a significant number of people redundant. However, I don't believe that AI can compete with the human brain, especially in such tasks. It won't make all editors or photographers redundant, but it may reduce the number of amateur freelance workers.

Anyway, it's still too early to judge; AI seems both a blessing and a cure, and while technology is evolving so quickly that it's frightening, I'm hoping that it will at least be put to good use.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on May 30, 2023, 06:29:36 PM

I saw an analogy that is a perfect fit for this question a few days ago.

Some might saw this already, but in a Facebook post, there's 2 pictures where the picture on the left is a photographer that's in a helicopter, and the picture on the right is a drone. In that, there's a caption that says "In just 10 years, the photographer losses his job."

I can't find the post, and I don't know the exact caption either, but the point is if you will not adopt to your environment, chances of you losing your job really is high. ChatGPT might destroy, and totally replace some of the jobs out there, but on the other hand, those who are expert in using ChatGPT will see this is a new opportunity for them to find a job. Many people might lose their job, but if they will adopt, and learn how to use ChatGPT on their advantage, and maximize it, they will not lose their job for sure.

Technology really is evolving, and on a rapid pace, and people must adopt into it, and maximize it thus, they might really lose their jobs.

Bro, that comparison was as on point as a dart tossed by someone who's had a few too many! No shade, but it caught me right in the heartstrings. It feels like watching a futuristic flick where bots take over, only now they're after our gigs. Curse you, Skynet! Or should I say, ChatGPT!

But hold up, before we start stockpiling canned goods and fashioning aluminum foil headgear, let's recall something: We've been down this road before. Remember the cries about ATMs making bank tellers extinct? Yeah, didn't happen. So let's not rush to drastic conclusions.

Adjusting is the secret sauce, bros and broettes. Just like we mastered the art of smartphones, social media, and TikTok moves (yikes), we can also figure out how to co-exist with ChatGPT. Who knows, this AI may turn out to be as harmless as a kitty... an incredibly bright kitty, though.

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