Topic: Will Russia Emerge As The Next Dominant Superpower - page 7. (Read 8957 times)

China can be a super power, but not Russia. In the end, it all comes down to manpower. Russia has a population that is equal to around 40% of that of the United States and every year they lose around 1 million people. They are more like Japan in terms of defense capabilities. Russia has some of the best military technology, but that is of limited use when they don't have a large pool of manpower for their armed forces. And this was especially evident during the Russo-Ukrainian war, where the Russian side was very dependent on rebel militias (DNR/LNR), private mercenaries (PMC Wagner) and ethnic minorities from within the Russian Federation (Chechens, Daghestanis, Tuvinians, Kalmyks, Ossetians, Buryats.etc).

Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and collected their land which is Crimea(Ukraine's most oil-producing state). Now again in 2022 they invaded them again to take four more states again from them. People expect Ukraine to fold their hands and watch Russia take more of their land, and this time the most industrialized states.

Russia certainly has a great chance to become a super power country, the world's largest country with increasing military and economic power so that it can become a super power country, besides that citizens' loyalty is the main key to making the country more optimistic.

Russia can't be termed as a superpower, either in terms of military capability or economic capability. It is true that they are among the leading exporters of natural resources, but it will not count as long as they need to import the finished products. USSR was the 2nd superpower until its disintegration in 1992. But Russia never reached that level. They still have top-notch military technology, but the lack of manpower resources is a big concern (and it is quite evident during the recent conflict in Ukraine as well). And as far as I know, their population is getting decreased by ~1 million per year.

A superpower is a country that can exert a great influence on other countries globally. For now the superpowers are still held by America and China, the two countries are a barometer for other countries to catch up in terms of economy and technology. The Russian state is currently planning the will to make it a superpower with everything it has. ranging from natural resources including natural gas which supplies more than 50% of natural gas to European countries and the Russian military which is included in the top 10 countries with the strongest military in the world can be Russia's main capital to achieve its goals. With the achievement of Russia becoming the next superpower, we hope that cryptocurrencies in the future can be widely accepted in various countries.

You can believe or not believe, that's your right. But I highly recommend using logic and thinking
I will start a little from afar - I do not serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but I partially touch on this topic (Service in the Territorial Defense, but not on the front line), plus my specialty gives me the opportunity to be close to the front line.
I personally saw with my own eyes the fields on which dozens and hundreds of corpses of Russian soldiers were lying, whom the Russian command refuses to take. I saw railway refrigerators stuffed to capacity with the corpses of Russian soldiers, who are also refused to be taken away by the "second army in the world." I saw Russian convoys of dozens of vehicles destroyed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, where among the vehicles were trucks torn to rubble, carrying terrorist manpower.
This is what I mean - they are destroyed in huge quantities.
And now about logic and thinking. I can already see that you absolutely do not even know the basic theory about the army, military operations and similar topics. I have such knowledge I'm telling you.
According to the canons, combat formations that have lost 50% of their personnel cease to be combat-ready and are unable to perform combat missions (this does not apply to formations such as sabotage and reconnaissance groups and similar small formations). And they urgently need a REPLENISHMENT. So - we take logic, thinking and basic arithmetic:
- The beginning of the next round of a terrorist attack on Ukraine - the Russian Federation has 300,000 troops, not counting PMCs and other terrorist mercenaries.
- after 6 months, the "invincible army" begins to flee, throwing the wounded and equipment in an amount commensurate with Land Lease, and the "most honest leader", who promised that there would be no mobilization, announces ... mobilization. The first wave of mobilization - another 300,000. Yes, I did not make a reservation - the FIRST wave. There will be 4 of them in total. In December-January there will be a second wave, remember
Now we collect all the information - and what conclusion do we have? What are the losses of Russian terrorists in Ukraine? 5000-10000? You can cite any source that is more acceptable to you, but there are FACTS that neither you nor those sources can refute. And this is quite enough for me to assert that at least 60,000 Russian terrorists were killed, at least 120,000 terrorists from Russia were wounded, and possibly more, because. from the Rostov region, Belgrod, Krasnodar, information comes in about overcrowded hospitals and hospitals precisely by wounded terrorists ... Once again - use knowledge, logic, thinking, and do not choose those sources that are "closer to your soul"
And please explain more - why are you trying with such perseverance to at least somehow (very often unsuccessfully) "support" the country of the world terrorist? Well, honestly, you are a citizen of Russia, not India, right, I guessed? A person from a normal country, such as India, cannot, with such persistence, try to "whitewash" and make "innocent" a country like Russia-terrorist ...

I agree! Absolutely!
But! I intentionally left out one sentence yesterday
It sounds like this - "if the attacking side qualitatively and technologically corresponds to the enemy" T
Those. if armies of the same type are fighting against each other, the ratio is approximately the same, according to all the canons of military affairs. If the Army of the 21st century is fighting demativized, primitive, stupid soldiers, armed with weapons of the 60-70-80s of the last century, and methods of waging the Second World War, then the situation is changing, and radically!

If you really follow the situation and how the Ukrainian units are attacking, then you should know the following:
1. Depots of ammunition, fuel and lubricants are being destroyed
2. Logistics is destroyed (railways, roads, bridges, ..)
3. Forward headquarters and control posts of the enemy are being destroyed
4. Suppresses artillery and other concentrations of troops with long-range artillery and missile systems.
5. After that, there is already a direct attack on the territory where the unfinished terrorists remained.

Do you know why? Because in Ukraine they PROTECT and VALUE the lives of their soldiers and citizens, and Russia is still trying to throw its meat at us so that we run out of ammunition Just like the USSR fought in World War II.

So once again I strongly recommend not to listen to the propaganda of rashists, but to study reality

PS. Yes, the only thing that the Russians have so far more or less succeeded in is their "heroic terrorism" - missile attacks on peaceful cities. In terrorism, Russia is ahead of the rest! But even here the situation is changing, not in their favor.
The day before yesterday's attack on Kyiv - all missiles and kamikaze drones were destroyed!

If all the nato members contribute 10% of their regular armed forces it will be as big as Ukraine total armed forces right now. There is a very low chance that NATO will send troops directly but there are already soldiers from NATO members country fighting in the war. What causes most of the problem for russian armed forces is the intelligence that NATO countries provided to ukraine.

Of course, Russia is the most likely contender for the title of "world superpower". It remains only to solve the problem with the payment of firewood for the mobilized residents of Russia ))

Yes Yes. That's right - in the country richest in resources, with the squeals of propaganda that the EU will be heated with firewood, in Russia I "compensate" those mobilized with firewood and tickets ... to ZZOPARK! And at the same time there are still unsolvable problems Greatness in Russian - looks a little different than on the channels of propagandists!

"15:47 The families of those mobilized in Buryatia cannot receive the firewood promised by the authorities. This was stated by the head of the republic, Alexei Tsydenov himself.

“I talked to the guys. They had no questions regarding provision and preparation. There were questions more domestic and to ourselves. For the issuance of firewood,” Tsydenov (ER) said in his telegram channel after a meeting with the mobilized, who had already been taken to Zaporozhye. - That the rules that we adopted are not the best and many of the relatives cannot get firewood. Let's change the rules."

Regional authorities previously promised 10 cubic meters of firewood to one family and 20 "cubes" in territories equivalent to the regions of the Far North - up to 20 cubic meters. In Tuva, for the mobilized authorities, families are given a sheep, in Yakutsk they promised a set of vegetables, in Novosibirsk - free tickets to the zoo.

Link to Russian resource https://tayga.info/179504
happy reading about "superpower"

My question was about the Ukrainian casualties. Still, I am not sure whether the 65,000 figure that you had given for Russia is close to reality. BBC Russian has given a figure of 8,000 confirmed deaths. I assume it will be much higher, because a lot of soldiers are listed as missing, and many of them were affiliated with PMC Wagner and other militia for whom the numbers will never be added to the official tally. Still 65K? Suspicious.

Ukraine on the other hand has a population of around 40 million right now and can't sustain with huge number of casualties. The Ukrainian government hasn't given any official figures for their own casualties since the start of the conflict. And now they are going on the offensive. In regions such as Kherson, where the terrain is flat, the attackers are going to face huge losses in manpower and equipment. And this is where Ukraine is concentrating their offensive.

As a resident of Ukraine, I will tell you how it really is. Since 2014, when the terrorist country attacked Ukraine, up to the peak of the seizure of Ukraine - March 2022, these vile rashists have occupied up to 25% of the territory of Ukraine. It was, I can confirm. Why this happened is another question.

But the objective reality is this - today, almost 50% of the territory of Ukraine previously occupied by international terrorists, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already returned under the control of Ukraine, having defeated the combat-ready grouping of the terrorist army. Terrorists for March-October 2022 lost:
-5200 armored vehicles (38% of the terrorists in service)
-2570 tanks (78% of the terrorists in service)
-1650 artillery systems (29% of those in service with terrorists)
-269 strike aircraft (20% of the terrorists in service)
-240 combat helicopters (25% of those in service with terrorists)

Manpower - more than 60 thousand corpses and about 200 thousand wounded ... But who will count them, as they say in Russia, "women still give birth"

Can you refute something?

Not that simple. Russia captured around 20% of the Ukrainian land in the first few days of the offensive. Then Russia concentrated their offensive in the Donbass region, where the Ukrainians themselves admitted that Russian artillery is 10x more numerous when compared to their own. And for the last 2-3 months, Ukraine has been on the offensive, especially in the Kharkov and Kherson regions (where they have captured around 10,000 sq.km of territory). Now going by your own theory, Ukrainian losses should be 3x that of Russia.

To defeat the fake "second army of the world", and in the group, which included the most combat-ready units, it was enough for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the formations of the Territorial Defense of Ukraine Russia? At the same time, these disposable bodies are told that they have nothing to provide, they demand to buy socks, underpants and pa-baaam, TAMPAX and WOMEN'S sanitary pads (!!!!!) Do you know what for? Don't cry! In order to close bullet wounds and bleeding  

Maybe you want to say fake? I will immediately give you a link to the original entry from one military unit of "Great Russia"


Yeah, so you also don’t know the theory of warfare ?! And he tries to invent a "beautiful picture" on the go!

It's okay, I'll give you training here, I'm already used to it
Remember: The attacking side (aggressor, terrorist, i.e. Russia), suffer losses, in manpower and equipment at least 3 times more than the side carrying the defense. Those. For every 1 defender, there are 3 attackers.
How does this apply to combat sanitary irretrievable losses - losses that are the direct result of hostilities.
As for the wounded, it is already a little worse here: 1:4-1:5, this is again connected with the theory of warfare.

Well, the truth is, if "heroic Russia" will "heroically" and habitually shoot civilians / women, the elderly, children - then here they are "victorious heroes". The Russian army, as practice has shown, can more or less effectively fight only against the unarmed and with its noticeable quantitative superiority. This has been proven in Ukraine!

Apart from the United States and Turkey, none of the other NATO members even have a combat ready army. And the chances of NATO sending a large number of soldiers to Ukraine are low. They will provide weapons and funds, and that too for a limited duration. Russian and Ukrainian people will continue dying (both soldiers and civilians). And BTW, if Russia has lost 65,000 on their side so far, then the losses on the other side would be at least 2x of that number. Because even now in the artillery department Russia has an advantage.

A little humor
The best picture about Russian nonsense!

A resident of Israel, Syoma, calls to his historical homeland in Ukraine, to the city of Odessa, to his friend Monet:
- Monya, what do you have there in Odessa?
- Yes, Russia is fiercely at war with NATO
- Well, how are you doing?
- Russia lost a cruiser, 65,000 soldiers, 250 planes, 2,500 tanks and some other little things.
- What about NATO?
— Oh, Syoma, you won't believe it, NATO hasn't arrived yet.

 

Isn't Ukraine at the farthest eastern part of Europe not the center?

That's what they always tell the countries they disarm.
BTW your own politicians have been saying that if they hadn't accepted that disarmament they would have never been invaded in first place.

Why would I ever rejoice in that?!!

Iraq survived the NATO invasion too but the point I was trying to make was that it could have been avoided very easily if Ukraine had a politician instead of a celebrity. All it took was not planning to join NATO and not letting US colonize Ukraine. A real politician would have received benefits from both sides threatening each with joining the other side if they didn't comply. Meanwhile kept independence and increase self reliance, specially in military field.

NATO survived after they lost a lot over the past 2 decades in all their invasions so...

NATO has been a serious security threat for a lot of countries all around the world.
Taiwan is a good example that has turned into a national security threat for China and they keep insisting on pushing them into a similar proxy war with China.
Azerbaijan is another example where NATO has turned into a very serious national security threat. Not only they are destabilizing our our north west borders with the number of terrorists they are arming there (same terrorists who were part of ISIS) but they are threatening to literary wipe out Armenia from the maps one region at a time.

They haven't joined yet, they are basically "invitees".

Ukraine was not disarmed. Considering that Ukraine, being in the center of Europe, did not see the threat of a military invasion and was among friendly states (Russia was seen as a brotherly people), it was decided to abandon the third largest nuclear potential in the world and even get rid of the missiles that it transferred Russia. In exchange for this, the Budapest Memorandum secured security guarantees from the leading states, including Russia.

Russia treacherously violated this agreement, and now the missiles transferred to it by Ukraine are being fired at the territory of Ukraine. In this regard, Ukraine has the right to demand that the guarantor countries of the Budapest Memorandum provide it with weapons to protect its territory from an attack by another guarantor of its security - the Russian Federation. Of course, Ukraine will draw a conclusion in relation to its neighbor Russia and decisively break partnership relations with it for many generations. If you want to rejoice at the treachery and betrayal of Russia, rejoice. Ukraine will survive this difficult period for it. But whether the Russian Federation will survive it and whether it will retain its current territories - we'll see. As a result of this war, Russia has become very weak: Ukraine has already destroyed almost all of i professional army Russia. This will be used by the peoples living in Russia and which the Kremlin kept in obedience only by threats and force of arms.

Yesterday the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, at the request of representatives of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, recognized its independence. Dagestanis, Bashkirs, peoples of Siberia and the Far East begin to fight for their independence. Russia has always stated that it respects the people's right to self-determination. In any case, this was the case with respect to the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine. Let's see how it will react to similar processes in its territory. Drowning them in blood, as was the case in Chechnya, Russia is not strong enough. And if the indigenous peoples of Siberia and the Far East separate from Russia, its current power will also disappear - the gas and oil that Russia is pumping into them, and to which crumbs are now falling. After all, in the central part of Russia there is no oil and gas of its own.

The threat from Ukraine, if it were to join NATO, is a far-fetched threat. As a result of an open military invasion of Ukraine, Russia's immediate neighbors Sweden and Finland have recently joined NATO and Russia has acquired 1,300 kilometers of direct border with NATO. And what did Russia do? Absolutely nothing. Threatened these countries and calmed down.

This day was foreseeable ever since the 90's where they disarmed you and you guys celebrated that event. Today Ukraine has to beg for missiles with a range higher than 300 km.

Strategist say we have 3 threats: military, political and social. When you lose all 3, all is lost.
They first disarmed you so the military threat became real that day.
Then it was the social threat where domestic disagreements among people turns into hatred and polarizes the society. That too happened in Ukraine.
Finally it was the political threat with coups, colored revolutions and finally installing a non-politician (ie. a celebrity in entertainment business) at the highest political position who is just playing the part.

They did the same to a lot of countries, like Iraq: disarmament, polarization, hatred towards the administration and finally invasion. An invasion that Ukraine was a part of by the way...

Umm did you just justify Russian invasion of Ukraine? LOL
Russia is saying the exact same thing for what they are doing: "NATO has been expanding eastward and therefor they have an "instinct for self-preservation" and had to act", as they claim.

I am Ukrainian and I talk about what is happening in my country. In this case, Putin and his soldiers are ordinary murderers and there is no excuse for them. And at the same time, all the citizens of Russia are accomplices, who support the war in Ukraine by more than 70 percent. As for the countries of the European Union, they realized that if Putin is not stopped in Ukraine, then he will go further and get to them. Therefore, they have an instinct for self-preservation. It is easier for them to provide Ukraine with weapons and weaken Russia with the hands of Ukrainians than to fight the Russians themselves later. The same is true with sanctions.

They should but not by other "terrorists and murderers". Don't pretend that what Europe and other "world powers" are doing to Russia is because they invaded Ukraine. It is not. They don't give a crap about Ukraine any of the things you listed here, if they did and were worried about "a country invading other countries for no reasons" they should start with NATO countries and more specifically United States that has invaded, destroyed and directly or indirectly murdered millions of people all for reasons like free oil, exerting geopolitical power, etc.