Topic: Will Russia Emerge As The Next Dominant Superpower - page 3. (Read 8955 times)

In warfare, usually there will be 4-5 times injured soldiers when compared to those who are killed. If Russia lost 80,000 soldiers, then there should be 320,000 to 400,000 injured soldiers. This is not possible since they just had 160,000 on ground (200,000 if you add up DNR/LNR troops and PMC Wagner). And moreover, if they had suffered this many casualties, then it would be just impossible for them to counter the Ukrainian army across the frontline, which stretches for more than 1,000 km (Ukrainian strength as of now is more than 1 million).

Let's do it - bring evidence, facts. Namely:
- Mass cynical murder of unarmed citizens of the country
- Mass rape - from young girls to older women.
- Sexual abuse of young boys, men
- Destruction, sadistic civilians and subsequent concealment, through mass graves in hard-to-reach places
- Sadistic torture, mockery and murder of military personnel of the country subjected to aggression.
- Contradictory sadistic antics - decapitation, dismemberment, hanging the disfigured bodies of local residents for display, public executions, ...
- Total destruction of civilian infrastructure. Objects that provide normal living conditions for civilians in cities and villages.
- Intentional, sadistic destruction of pets
- Total looting.
- Destruction of state symbols, persecution on ethnic and linguistic grounds.
- Destruction and theft of historical monuments, cultural values

And I'll tell you who else did this - the USSR, namely in Afghanistan!

PS Even if we admit the delusional nature of your statement that the United States allegedly did this in Afghanistan, is this an JUSTICE for you that the world terrorist country (Russia) is doing in Ukraine ?!

What Russia did in Ukraine - USA did the same in Afghanistan and PAkistan
Israel did the same in Palestine but no one ever spoke about it - I don't find any forum here talking about USA and Israel blood shed in muslim countries

Sorry, don't take this as an insult or threat. But I, as a resident of Ukraine, who saw with my own eyes what the "Russian world" did in Bucha, Irpen, Kyiv, I want to wish you that you would know him, the "Russian world" closer. And personally! Do you love him? I hope it will come to your country too. And then you will describe your joyful experiences from meeting him. On the ruins of houses where the corpses of former friends and acquaintances.. Among the destroyed infrastructure... Among the many missing people, who will later be found in hidden mass graves, with traces of inhuman torture. Tell me how much you love Russia, looking into the eyes of a 6-year-old girl raped by 2-3 cute Russian soldiers, in front of her mother ... Whom the soldiers will then brutally kill in front of this girl ... This is exactly what the REAL Russian world looks like, it is Putin who gives orders to commit such crimes...

I wonder what people with a brain damaged by Russian propaganda will now sing after the situation with Kherson?
Remember the next Russian idiotic fantasies "Kherson is now always in Russia"?  
In reality, there was no surrender of the city.
In real:
1. The total defeat of the Russian terrorist group in the southern direction.
2. Losses that the Russian terrorist army has never suffered in modern history.
3. It will no longer be possible to hide that on the right bank of the Dnieper, a "forgotten" group of approximately 15,000 Russian terrorists has remained. Some of them are already feeding crayfish at the bottom of the Dnieper. Some in women's clothes are hiding in the city, some, dressed in civilian clothes, are trying to somehow get into Russia.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine and the MTR, of course, will find all the terrorists, and ... Well, let's not talk about the well-deserved punishment that the terrorists will suffer

And most importantly, there are 3 questions:
1. Deadline for the liberation of Donetsk and Luhansk regions from terrorists
2. Liberation of the occupied Crimea
3. Will the Rostov, Belgorod regions and Krasnodar Territory (Kuban) be returned to Ukraine

Well, about the payment of reparations, the question is no longer worth it - all the inhabitants of the terrorist country will pay, and more than one generation!


UPD And a few words about the "partners" of the country of terrorists, Belarus
Belarusian Defense Minister Khrenin ridiculed the Ukrainian military, who aggressively mine the territory on the border with Belarus:
"We have more foot soldiers than you have min. 7 times!"

You understand ?! 

Without a doubt, I am not Russian, but I support Russia. The reason I am afraid to like it is also very simple, I adore Mr. Putin, in which he lays flowers for his teacher in the rain, and is very sad, he is a tough guy, and conversely, I don't think that Ukrainian comedian is a good national leader . Besides, NATO and the United States are existences that I have always disliked. The relationship between nations is the same as between us as individuals. If Mr Putin had not considered Ukrainian civilians, the war would have been over.

If we arbitrarily take the confirmed losses of Russian troops only as dead (excluding the wounded, who are several times more), then according to the official statistics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they are:
     - October 29 total 70 250 per day 550,
     - 30 October          71 200               950,
     - 31 October          71 820               620,
     - 01 November      72 470               650,
     - 02 November      73 270               800,
     - 03 November      74 000               730,
     - 04 November      74 840               840,
     - 05 November      75 440               600,
     - 06 November      75 930               490,
     - 07 November      76 460               530,
     - 08 November      77 110               650,
     - 09 November      77 950               840,
     - 10 November      78 690               740,
     - 11 November      79 400               710.
These figures are approximate, but in reality the losses can be much higher. Especially now, when the Russians are chaotically retreating in the Kherson region to the left bank of the Dnieper. At first, the invaders for some reason believed that their leadership had agreed with the Armed Forces of Ukraine on an unhindered withdrawal. But after the retreating columns of the Russian Armed Forces were hit with precision weapons, the retreat turned into a stampede to the few remnants of the crossings across the Dnieper. Big traffic jams have formed there, since the Russians themselves have recently destroyed all the watercraft, fearing that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would  cross this river right after them. Now about 20,000 Russian invaders have gathered there, fighting for any opportunity to cross to the other side of the Dnieper.This is a very good goal for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. They will either be killed or forced to surrender. Also, the Armed Forces of Ukraine capture a lot of captured equipment. By the way, since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already captured 500 tanks in the Russian troops. Now this number will increase sharply, since the occupiers will simply not be able to transport all the equipment across the Dnieper.

There will be no mercy for them, because retreating, they mined and blew up civilian critical infrastructure, massively robbed and removed equipment from medical and other institutions, museums, as a result of which Kherson, which now includes Ukrainian troops, was left without electricity, water and gas. The invaders forcibly deported part of the population of the Kherson region, including medical workers.

Russia losing 900 troops per day is not even possible. They only have around 160,000 regular troops in Ukraine and on top of that there maybe another 40,000 allied troops. Losing close to a thousand soldiers every day should force them to stop their campaign in a month or so. And only around 20% of the reserve troops who have been recently called up have reached Ukraine. The remainder (80%) are still in Russia, going through various training programs. If the Russians were that desperate, they would immediately shift these troops to Ukraine.

"Heroically", leaving the right bank of Kherson in a panic, the "second army of the world" shamefully, but expectedly, loses another battle. The battle for the region, which is a miserable breed for the leader, through clowning "introduced into Russia" Now they cowardly run away from there, inventing excuses for themselves. It turns out, like everything from Russia, very idiotic. Of course, this is the behavior of the best contender for the title of "future superpower."
It seems that soon the most fetid formation of the name of the Russian Federation will not remain on the map of the earth!
But, let's play in the show "Russia is a possible future world leader" 

There's probably some disinformation campaign going on by NATO, and its allies. They usually do that to demoralize the enemy, but if you look at Russia's propaganda, they will have some disinformation of their own, and say themselves that they are "winning". Real "Winning", from the people's viewpoint, is attained and reached ONLY through diplomacy and peaceful resolutions.

Where did you get this information? I've never heard of it and don't believe it either. Like everyone says, in today's world whoever holds the media is the winner, they are brainwashing us and we don't even know it. I do not support war because it causes pain not only for the countries involved in the war, but also for the whole world. But this war cannot not happen, cannot let the US government and their minions bully others or do whatever they think is right. Let's see who benefits the most in this battle and you'll understand, I won't argue who has the upper hand in the fight, let's wait until the final result.

I am very skeptical about statements that the most important thing in the interaction between peoples is “strength”.  

Who is strong is right.  The science of geopolitics, which I consider pseudoscience, is based on this postulate.  

Meanwhile, even if we study geopolitics based on the series Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon, it becomes clear that it is the inadequacy of the actions of individual characters that leads to disastrous political consequences.

In the modern world, "the force that is always right" is elevated to an absolute.  

The question arises, why did law arise in the world at all?  Wouldn't it be easier to just growl and hit each other on the head with clubs?  

I am close to the approach of China, which, in response to sanctions against Huawei, began to develop the Honor brand.  Because the political elite of China thinks in stratagems, and not in a banal way - whoever is strong is right.  

And in addition to stratagems, there is also ethics, law, morality, reason, cooperation, the interests of humanity as a species, and much more.  And all this is important.

What is "behaving adequately" in your book? Is it to bend the knee and accept a national security threat right at their borders? Or all the destabilization that US is causing directly or through its proxies in their trade routes in the sea and on land? Maybe it is to accept another Opium War imposed by the West?

You are right that Chinese leaders are wise but because they didn't attack Taiwan but because they didn't attack when US wanted. They decided to do it on their terms and at the time they want.

You are 100% right.

While the NATO is spending their resources in the proxy war against Russia, China is silently strengthening their economy as well as armed forces. At the same time, the west is suffering form double digit inflation as a result of this proxy war. And China hasn't antagonized the west by openly siding with Russia. They have refused to provide weapons to Russia, although they rejected western demands to stop importing energy from that country. They are carefully balancing out both sides, for their own benefit.

And this prevents China from gradually becoming a superpower? 

For China, the sanctions that were imposed against Huawei were very unpleasant.  Huawei was the leader in the production of smartphones and instantly lost this leadership.  But China's leaders are wise rulers, not flighty fools.  They did not seize Taiwan and get involved in a war with the Western world.

They understand that in order to become a superpower, you need to behave adequately. 

And as long as China's leaders behave like this, China has every chance of becoming a hegemon.

There are so many replies so i am worried about the duplication of my words and what I am going to say may there many of the members already posted those opinions before me but let me put on my own view on it. the trend of superpower is over. Still, if you consider it then dude there are two main contenders of this race as commonly one of them is mentioned by you and the second one is China really they are the most dominant in the local market everywhere. So now the time is to end for the superpower no one is going to be the next superpower now if they even try to be then the results are going to be the stone age as there is no place for showing power now if we or they do then there is no place for us.

Russia was previously really considered one of the strongest militarily and the export of weapons was one of the main sources of budget revenue. But that was before the full-scale invasion of Russian troops into Ukraine. Now all experts agree that Russian samples are ineffective and lose to Western counterparts. Such conclusions can be drawn if we analyze the use of Russian weapons in the war and countering them with Western weapons. After this analysis, the purchase of Russian weapons can only be due to a noticeable difference in price, but the price of Russian weapons is slightly lower, and sometimes higher than similar Western designs.

In addition, due to sanctions and limited access to spare parts, technologies and materials, Russia is losing the ability to produce advanced weapons even for itself. And you can forget about selling for export in such a situation. It also calls into question even the ability of Russia to secure those contracts that were earlier and to repair military equipment that was sold earlier. This certainly does not make Russia a reliable supplier.

Under these conditions, Russia is not only unable to compete with Western counterparts, but is also unable to develop and create new models of modern weapons. This means that Russia is losing the race and is automatically excluded from the group of leaders selling high-tech and effective weapons. All of the above discards the Russian Federation as a supplier to the group of consumer goods and dealers in standard weapons.

The beautiful legend about Russia as a manufacturer of highly effective and high-tech weapons burst like a soap bubble, just like the myth of the "second army of the world." And this is clearly not the last debunked myth about the greatness of Russia, which we will see. Russia turned out to be a colossus with feet of clay, with missed opportunities, wasted time and a budget plundered by Putin. The fall of this colossus is now only a matter of time. And the beginning of the process itself was laid by Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

Recently, Russia has focused on attacks in only one place in Ukraine - near Bakhmut, and suffered enormous losses in manpower and equipment there. Every day, Russia is now losing 400 to 900 of its troops, which is about ten times less than the losses of Ukrainian troops. Therefore, Putin and his entourage are feverishly looking for ways to end the war in Ukraine, but at least somehow preserve their reputation. It is unlikely that they will succeed.

That can only happen in an imaginary neverland not in the real world.
The moment you start growing and gaining some strength, the existing super powers will start feeling threatened even if you don't threaten their hegemony. For example why do you think United States is so afraid of China? That's only because they are economically expanding and have been successful, like eliminating the 85% absolute poverty in China in only 4 decades. Now look at the wars US has started against China over the same period (cold/soft wars and the recent threat of proxy war with Taiwan).

There is a saying - if you are in a crowd of tourists and a lion suddenly attacked you, then you do not need to run faster than a lion.  

You need to run faster than the most unsportsmanlike of tourists.

Because the lion will definitely stop to catch and devour him.....

To become a superpower, it is enough for a large state simply not to make fatal mistakes.  No need to get involved in wars and other geopolitical adventures.  No need to get carried away building skyscrapers and carry out rash economic reforms.  No need to clash with the superpowers.

And this is enough to eventually become a superpower.  You just need to avoid inappropriate actions.

To be fair, Russia cannot be considered a great power because Russia is not a country whose economy affects the world but militarily they deserve to be the country with the best army in the world. They are an important balance to balance the world order, without Russia and China, the US would have dominated the entire world. Like the US is doing with the EU, everything is manipulated by the US from economic to military.
The EU region, which includes Germany, Britain and France, was once considered giant, even larger than the US before World War II. But because they follow the American leadership, everything they do is managed by the US and completely dependent on the US.