Topic: Will XTRABYTES (XBY) Be A Top 10 Cryptocurrency By The End Of 2018? - page 10. (Read 13444 times)

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I really hope this is true, because it sounds very promising. And I personally have no agenda in spreading FUD because I want to buy cheap etc.
The only reason I was also involved in asking critical questions is that crypto-sphere is wild west. And I definitively don`t want to ruin anyones achievments of hard work.
The problem is, its not only about earning money, its also about not losing it. Thats why I believe transparency can help solving issues.

XBY mods dont care to answer questions   where is fishfishfish?

This undertaking is a long haul speculation and it will beyond any doubt rise when things begin rolling and XBY gets recorded in real trades. Simply needed to call attention to out reason a few people are taking a gander at the cost and not simply the coin. This is as yet a moderately early venture however it gives off an impression of being building some energy as far as advancement. A great deal of this improvement is being coded by a programming wonder named "Borzalom", and a great part of the side tasks are taken care of by a group of dedicated volunteers with almost no installment (as of not long ago with XFUEL). The group is extremely eager and has confidence in Borzalom and the energy is extremely infectious on SLACK. I figure XBY can be no less than a best 50 coin by mid 2018, however may take somewhat longer to achieve top 10. I truly do trust XBY will get up there in light of the fact that it's not simply one more token; this is a totally new crypto stage.

Hope so. I hold some of them!
This year such the crypto year, people talk about crypto currency so much

Thank you Crazy8Balll for also giving an answer about the critisim on my points.

I m gonna also answer shortly and in a fair language:

1.
"Please compare XBY to other projects with much higher market caps that do not have a working project . . I will wait. If we use your criteria (that which equates to scam) then many of them must also be considered the same as XBY, (in your words, scammy).  Why not give XBY the benefit of the doubt as you do other projects? I do not see you all over other threads."

So what makes other projects look better? I d say I can check out the teams, for example IOTA, EOS or even A-Chain with just a few clicks. Including LinkedIn profiles, qualifications etc.
Its also easy to find out more about the framework, like registrations etc. Annother point that is important for me personally is exchanges. Ofc its not a KO criteria but it feels safer.
I don`t blame you for not being open source and I also don`t blame you for being only traded on cryptopia.
Look people who invest in something want to be sure they don`t get scammed. And sometimes its not much what they need as security. Just a litle piece to make sure its real.
But atm I see nothing about Xtrabytes what gives me a safe feeling. Because there is no proof. No paper, no ID. Not even the place.
If I would tell some friend that I invested in XBY he would most likely ask me some basic questions and the conversation would look like this:

He: So you invested in them, where is this company from?
Me: Ehm dunno, seems international
He: But you made sure they have a strong team?
Me: I hope so, it says community driven.

So what I definitely know is, I don`t know enough. And thats the reason I ask. Its sad that you don`t even try to understand it and start with "agenda" bla

2.
"I am not a newbie account. But since you have a perceived disdain of newbie accounts, shall we dismiss all posts by every newbie account?  Including the crazy8balll?"

Fishy thats the first time I get an answer by you or anyone from the team. Before that I got only toxic answers by CryptonPrime and some other Newbie accounts. They passionately defended XBY and called me FUDer. I checked their profiles and was a litle concerned that they have also been posting stuff like that on 100% Scam projects. Defending ATB for example. And some of the scam projects have fake accounts on their thread and they nonstop praise the scam to be the best crypto evar etc. I wrote I m not god and can not judge XBY on that but I am concerned. Especially because I got ignored when I asked important serious questions.

3.
"The whole community? Blanket statements like these are patently false and entirely subjective."

This heaty debate was going on for quiet a while. And the team refused to resolve this mess. And that was the reason I did some very neutral and constructive suggestions on my own. I hoped the team will catch them up(even half way would have been great) I ve seen barely good posts, but if they all where ignored or got lost between the MOOONs. And most concerns where called FUD. I think your view is very subjective, you shoud check out the last 40 pages of the thread, especially because I haven t seem many answers by you.
Yes there was also a lot of trolling by Candi and also heated answers because of the provocations in the first place. But it all escalated because there was not enough clarity and several people before me felt ignored.

And again, the Newbie accounts!!! So I ve asked whats the reason the team is hidding, and the answers I received were conspiracy style. Team is hidding because they fear to get mugged or smthg like that.
Comparisons to Satoshi etc. All that makes it look bad.

4.
Does John Potter exist`?   --->  He does. I know him personally.  You are free to not believe me, of course.

Look thats the thing I mean. If there is not enough clarity people start searching for whatever is there. Don`t you worry that your investors think about to find out if John Potter exists, or maybe even contact him to find out what he knows? Without clarity people start to interprete things wrong. Sorry but you think that people who ask questions have some sort of agenda. This is weird to me.
First of all, you want new people to join this project. But the moment new people come and ask questions you tell them to park their BTC elsewhere? This is dissatisfying for long term holders and seniour members of this project.

5.
You are free to join the Discord at any time.

Thank you very much, I appreciate this. But my problem is that I prefer an official, written answer to delicate questions. It should be open and accessable for all. Nevertheless I m gonna join some day.


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My criticism of the "where to invest 6k" headline. Answered:
But I do understand. Don't you think we wish the process was complete?  And those Quora posts were written by someone not directly on the team. Surely, you do not suggest we attempt to censor Quora?  Or is this just a red herring?

Your answer is nonsense. I talked about bait strategy not the incomplete process. Yes the Quora post is by someone who is not directly from your team, but he makes his job by your order. You pay him, and he posts 3-5 articles a day with a certain core message. This message is, here is an insider tipp how to make big money by investing into a undervalued project which will become a top 10. Its subtile, but after reading several of these posts its obvious. I call this bait strategy. Its only fair to call this like that. And thats actually still the friendly term for it.

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Your answer:
"I'll share this .. . it's an IBC . . but . . Trolls have an insatiable appetite, don't really care about the project, and only wish to create derision and distrust among the community."

My response:
This is a presumptive argument. Blanket statements like these are patently false and entirely subjective.
Asking a legit question has nothing to do with trolling, and you should have at least tried to answer this insatiable appetite with strong facts instead of bringning these "agenda" alligations or "inteligent FUD" as CC calls it. So these answers that I saw had actually not really substance. So it was clear this mess is not gonna be resolved.

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lulz . .you really are new to crypto man. Please compare Bitmox to XBY and find 1 single similarity. I expect a response to this.

First of all, it doesn t delegitimise my questions only because I m new. This is the same problem as allready mentioned. You want new people to join your project but don`t like them asking?
1 Single similarity is ofc the missing clarity. Actually I didnt refer to Bitmox, but rather general bahaviour of scamers. Hype and empty promisses. Ofc you say your promisses aren`t empty ones, but its about the view from outside. How it looks like.

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For me this sounds a litle like: A cmon bruh I got scammed too, u can trust me bruh, just gimme your 6000$! Plis no questions!

This is a hypothetical and grounds for dismissal in rational argumentation. Also link to a previous logical fallacy. See above.

Yes this is hypothetical, but its based on the public image that a certain percentage has from this project. Its not a logical failure. Your answer simply tries to discredit the point I made about missing clarity.


So all together I am still disappointed by your answer. Again there was no real try to resolve critical questions and issues but rather discredit people and their motives. You prefer to distract with "agenda" conspiracies.
You really do your best in ignoring the other sides point of view. Some of your statements sound very ignorant. You tried to sound very intelligent and professional. But since there is no substance again you failed horribly in my opinion.

It doesn t matter if you disapprove raised questions, because thats the idea of a forum. Thats some sort of selfregulated community. Its sad but very telling what kind of view of communication you and the team has if they prefer to shut down the conversation by closing a thread instead of answering.

I hope you look into this and try to understand my real motives, and not the ones you falsely assumed.

PS me sori for language mistakes, my inglish bad

I'm chilling man. What you up to?  Still using this noob account?

Just ate some dinner. Thinking about watching the new Dark Tower on Amazon Prime.  You seen it?  I was a huge fan of the book series, but I've read that the movie doesn't do it justice. And I'm inclined to agree even though I haven't seen it yet, They were an amazing series of novels.

Did you specifically have a question?  Because it sounded like you were just asking where I was 

Stop crying out loud, it's a good time to buy some extra XBY en hodl for the next big jump!!

Voting for listing on Kucoin!!

Well i was mostly curious about the timing of the patent and the company registration. There has not been an update at all. I feel that they are important tid-bits of information for the project to have to prevent investors from jumping ship, nothing mean intended. But for the questions themselves, allow me to answer them. (I posted before, But I will post again in a more organized format so it's easier to read). Also you mentioned that there is roughly no timeline, does that mean that the patent and the company registration could take months if not years?

@Again, you have an agenda and need to be treated as one with such.
My agenda was to find out when the patent and the company registration would be posted. Not trolling, but was mainly to answer the questions of myself and others in this subreddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/XtraBYtes/comments/7pivqi/any_news_on_the_company_registration/

@Supposition . . and dismissed

Nah, for the price dropping, it's true that it's been dropping but so has other cryptos. The issue with XBY is there has been alot of lack of updates for news about the important aspects of the project. It's possible that it's just due to simple price manipulation (cryptopia is the only pairing for it now?) or other market forces, But I have noticed that it doesn't seem normal. If you've noticed, the floor price continues to drop and the recovery amount recovers at a lower ATH each time. I still think this is of an important concern and needs to be addressed. (clarity and openness will ultimately help the project, remember that the investors are the ones who help to bring this project to life, without investors the project WILL die). Also I never mentioned the main net coming before the testnet I think (it seems illogical since tests are imperative to a working product?).

@It makes me and alot of the other investors uneasy.

Eh, it does make me a bit uneasy if there's no open clairty and honesty. I believe alot of others would prefer honesty as well?

@This is an exchange issue and needs to be treated as such.  Since you are new (its' easy to conclude this) issues regarding wallet upgrades need to be taken up with the exchange in question.  

That's agreeable, yes. (Cryptopia is kind of bad with wallets and whatnot, so I understand).

@What are your specific criteria for an open project?  Please keep in mind other project of the same caliber and how you view them before your response.

Well, for this you have to remember, it is a community project. I noticed that there is a community fund with more than 600k in it. Have you and the other moderators ever considered using the fund to hire a neutral third-party to audit the zoltchain? This would give validation to the patented parts of the tech, while providing for a NDA that will protect the technology at the same time. He or she could post his or her results and that would help alot. Next would be the team issues. Have you considered a basic profile to demonstrate who the team members are on the website? There are many other red flags as well, but those are my major concerns. Have you also given thought to the idea of an AMA? It's more in-depth than a 777 and it helps to illuminate the doubt and fog that surrounds the project. (You could probably shoot down alot of the red flags too quickly).

@the issue of censorship

Why does CCR delete people's posts on the official thread? Isn't that censorship?

@As for the issue of you ignoring me. Well I assumed that you did because if you read some posts back, Bikerlezno said that you should ignore me. I do not believe that this is fitting of management at XBY, but I do wish to thank you for taking the time to read my post. (I do know that CCR and Bikerlezno has me ignored, I assumed that you went along with it since you seem very close to them.). Now as for the issue of attitude, I notice that CCR and Bikerlezno has issues communicating with people. You should not be rude to your investors, it makes it tough to attract new investors.

@ If you are not satisfied with the transparency of the team, you are free to sell and park your btc elsewhere.

But as I am your investor as well as many others. Shouldn't you go out of your way to keep us as investors?
 Basic clarity is important for investor-investee relations imho

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@Lappen's questions

@The whole community? Blanket statements like these are patently false and entirely subjective.

Well tbh, lappen has a point fish. Think about it when the price was rising heavily. Everyone was shouting, to the mooooooooooonnn! Even the moderators and developers only seemed to care about the price....isn't that shilling and still the majority of the community? (considering the main ANN, reddit and discord)

@lulz . .you really are new to crypto man. Please compare Bitmox to XBY and find 1 single similarity. I expect a response to this.

Isn't it running on the Bitmox chain...wouldn't that be the most basic similarity?

@I'll share this .. . it's an IBC . . but . . Trolls have an insatiable appetite, don't really care about the project, and only wish to create derision and distrust among the community.

How is it trolling to want honesty and clarity within the project? Isn't being honest the first thing that should be done to have people invest in your project?

Please think about it fish, when deposits open back up, people will be able to sell again. That's why I said that the price will drop due to uncertainty. It was not meant to be trolling, but think about it for a moment. If you waited weeks with no update, wouldn't you rather sell and be safe, than to wait weeks and watch the price drop while holding? (remember alot of people invest for profits not just the technology). It's unfortunate, but news sell, waiting doesn't.

Also FYI @Fish be careful how you type to your investors. When you typed "Again, this is presumptive.  I have better things to do and will only respond to you when I decide to." it comes off as quite rude when it shouldn't...

If everything goes well and all plans will come to real we will be in top

That would be very impossible. There are more promising altcoins trying to fit in the slut so its quite hard for XBY to be in top 10. But it still depends on its future price.

ok, here goes:

For Lappenhaendler:


But I do understand. Don't you think we wish the process was complete?  And those Quora posts were written by someone not directly on the team. Surely, you do not suggest we attempt to censor Quora?  Or is this just a red herring?


This is a hypothetical and grounds for dismissal in rational argumentation. Also link to a previous logical fallacy. See above.

For crazy8ball


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.27976738

Again, you have an agenda and need to be treated as one with such.


Supposition . . and dismissed


Can you provide names, Discord handles, bitcointalk profiles of the "many others"?  Did you take a consensus of all of them?  Are you speaking for all of them at this time?
The truth is main-net was never expected before this testnet.  So, I would suggest to provide arguments within the context of reality so we can have a meaningful discussion.


Does it?  Because you can only speak for yourself. Your opinion is just fine. But please refrain from making blanket statements. Again, dismissed as illogical.


This is an exchange issue and needs to be treated as such.  Since you are new (its' easy to conclude this) issues regarding wallet upgrades need to be taken up with the exchange in question.  
How many people?  Again, speculative and grounds for dismissal. Not an argument.


Ignore?  You do realize it is Saturday night, and the first thing on my mind wasn't, "OMG I have to respond to that troll on bitcointalk"
Can you provide names, or handles of all members who were blocked or ignored?  Because you used a plural declaration.  I will wait for you to provide a report of interviews you have done with members of the community.
Many will jump ship?  Again, this is speculative and not an argument.


What are your specific criteria for an open project?  Please keep in mind other project of the same caliber and how you view them before your response.


Again, with the "potential scam" allegations. Censorship?  Please provide screenshots or evidence of censored materials. This particular thread is not self-moderated and therefore, not open to censorship.  


Again, this is presumptive.  I have better things to do and will only respond to you when I decide to.

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So, what do we see here?  We see a plethora of posts rife with logical fallacies and presumptions.  If you wish to have meaningful conversation and effective debate, you may want to familiarize yourself with common logical fallacies.  You may also want to understand that this is an experimental project with unique technology . . and as such, there are no deadlines.

If you are not satisfied with the transparency of the team, you are free to sell and park your btc elsewhere.

I would suggest to anyone who read this post . . to check the motives of the posters, and to always do your due diligence.  If the data is not to your satisfaction, move on.  Or wait until your personal investment criteria is satisfied.

Its not only crazyball asking questions, he is just the only one who continues agressively. It is a dissapointment that there is no proof of the superior technology. Its easy to say we are better and ez top10.
Basically thats what every scam projects tells to bait people. But I m not calling this a scam project but I want clarity. And I was asking for what, 2 weeks in the main thread, then it was closed and all questions where ignored.
But I got invited into your wonderfull forum, which I decided rather not to use, simply because I prefer neutral ground.
And maybe also because there have also been made suggestions and questions asked in your forum aswell and they also have been ignored.
Like the question about the team I ve seen no further information.

BTW fishy how can you not understand the other point of view? Your PR team makes advertisment with stuff like: "where its best to invest your 6000$?"

and then you have not even told in which country this company will be registred and whats with the patent. There is practically 0 proof of this tech, but there is a obvious baiting strategy.
And its also obvious how the team is ignoring mentioned concerns and also remarkable to see Newbie accounts defending this project.

Everyone who spent some time with research on several projects in the crypto-sphere knows there is a lot of scam going on. And developers should always watch out make everything understandable.
Clarity should be in your own interest. But it seems like 0 fucks given.

And in the forum there is this story told about borzolan being a victim of the bitmox scam and now he is rebuilding this. It sounds good, and maybe its true. But I ve seen people telling, he lost his money and now he wants to make a scam on his own. Not sure if I saw this on reddit or somewhere else. There is a percentage (who knows maybe 10-20%, maybe more) of people who would say this project is a scam.
This can t be acceptable, especially if it isn t as hard to resolve.

And if Borz is a scam victim how can he not understand that clarity and proofs are important?? I mean, why would he copy the behaviour of a scamer for a legit project.
For me this sounds a litle like: A cmon bruh I got scammed too, u can trust me bruh, just gimme your 6000$! Plis no questions!

PS cryzy8ball stop ignoring my questions

I think that this is not possible - it's in 60th place  on coinmarketcap, although it's show good growth, but for the TOP 10 it's needs a miracle!

It can become top 10 if they were honest and open XD (and if they allowed a real third party company to audit the zoltchain and post results which would protect the new technology from being stolen and prove that it was real)  but instead they ignore their investors, lie and censor anyone who asks legitimate questions, how will it go anywhere but up to top 200 or top 300 if they treat their investors this way?

When cryptopia allows deposits again, the price is gonna drop significantly due to the way they act...

Nah you're a friend so its fine, i'm not as trollish as you are though, but i'm more concerned about all the trouble that's happening with the project, the secretive nature and the scammy nature of it as you have seen. or rather, can you explain why the management refuses to give ANY updates and just blocks anyone who asks after 3-4+ weeks of expectation by everyone? maybe you can ask them because they blocked every single person who asked legitimate concerns about it (that's why i'm not trolling, but just asking legitimate questions only to get blocked and ignored...)

If management blocks you and ignores your question and refuses to even answer properly on reddit and other social media, how is this project not shady? does it not take 5 seconds to write "it was delayed due to such and such"? Two management people posted here and both said ignore for asking legitimate questions, I didn't call it a scam this time but asked actual questions as you have seen, which proves something is fishy at this point !

bro, this clown is frauding as me...

https://i.imgur.com/DpjAj7X.png

And my friends....this is why this project is seen as a potential scam *shrugs* no clarity, no honesty and just censorship and being ignored by management for asking legitimate questions...

Okay, why has there been no update on the patent and company registration in weeks when people are losing faith? or are you just gonna ignore me too? lol it's not very befitting of top management of XBY to treat their investors bad and withhold information...
If you haven't noticed, people are beginning to notice what's going on and the way you treat your large bag holders AND small bag holders  

Also have you read all the posts that's been on the boards lately? Alot of people are beginning to doubt the project, not just me so I think people care about news, updates and clarity

Fish ignore him. It is non sense to waste your time to read his stupid posts
Crazy8Ball - I am surprised that you have not got bored to write the same thing over and over again. Nobody takes you seriously. Do not have your own life?