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legendary
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July 19, 2023, 12:25:45 PM
I know most people here won't accept this, but the facts is there are many here that would deny the fact that they won't take such opportunity if ever it comes, I'm not disputing that there are no generous people but let's be honest a good number of people would seize such opportunity to recover their loss if given a chance to because no one is happy to lose money, also why don't people quit after going through numerous losses to casinos or online sports betting if not for the fact that they're trying to recover their loss.the series of losses would even make one cheat without giving it a second thought.
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Even if you do not talk about honesty, then I think most people here are adequate and would not cheat - simply because it is fraught with consequences and risks such as litigation or prison. The average person has a lot of opportunities to steal and commit petty crimes in everyday life, but I see that the majority behave adequately - and it seems to me not just because they are super honest, but because this is rational behavior.
One thing you must not forget to also consider is that, most things are easier said than done, most people in a bid to look or appear honest, most especially on a public forum as this will sure say that they will not cheat if they have the opportunity, but wait until the opportunity truly appear before them, then alone are we going to know who actually is honest and who is not..

Few days ago, while I've converted some bitcoins earned from my signature campaign to fiat through a crypto exchange and requested withdrawal to my bank account, i had the opportunity of cheating the exchange because they sent the money twice, money equivalent to $100 was sent twice to my bank account, just then, several thought began running in my head, i thought of keeping the money, and even when i decided i will return it, i waited for the exchange to contact me first, but they didn't, after the third day, i got myself up and contacted the exchange and told them the money i requested to withdraw 3 days ago was sent twice to my bank account, after they verified it was true, they provided an account and asked me send the other half to it, i did and after they verified receipt of the fund, the customer care i was in contact with told me that the entire management of the exchange is saying a big thank you to me, i was really happy and proud for doing what is right.

I tell you sincerely, Many will fall at the fore front of such temptation.
legendary
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July 19, 2023, 12:04:17 PM
I know most people here won't accept this, but the facts is there are many here that would deny the fact that they won't take such opportunity if ever it comes, I'm not disputing that there are no generous people but let's be honest a good number of people would seize such opportunity to recover their loss if given a chance to because no one is happy to lose money, also why don't people quit after going through numerous losses to casinos or online sports betting if not for the fact that they're trying to recover their loss.the series of losses would even make one cheat without giving it a second thought.
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Even if you do not talk about honesty, then I think most people here are adequate and would not cheat - simply because it is fraught with consequences and risks such as litigation or prison. The average person has a lot of opportunities to steal and commit petty crimes in everyday life, but I see that the majority behave adequately - and it seems to me not just because they are super honest, but because this is rational behavior.
hero member
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July 19, 2023, 11:57:48 AM
As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

I know most people here won't accept this, but the facts is there are many here that would deny the fact that they won't take such opportunity if ever it comes, I'm not disputing that there are no generous people but let's be honest a good number of people would seize such opportunity to recover their loss if given a chance to because no one is happy to lose money, also why don't people quit after going through numerous losses to casinos or online sports betting if not for the fact that they're trying to recover their loss.the series of losses would even make one cheat without giving it a second thought.
 However it's very difficult to cheat in an online sports betting because I've not heard of any, it's either you come up with different strategies or look for possible ways to clear a bonus also the outcomes from most games claimed to be fixed are sometimes negative even when you pay to get those type of games it  still not 100% guaranteed most times, anyways the truth of the matter is that there are no 100% guaranteed tricks for winning in casino games and even if there's a good number of people here would take chances to win even if it's once.
legendary
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hmph..
July 19, 2023, 08:48:04 AM
It happens very rare when someone can actually find and report a bug, and I think the rewards for that should be big. In my opinion, it should be like an additional game on the platform: finding and reporting a bug. But again, I think it would be less often than once in a year, if ever, when a bug worth reporting is found.

Front end or UI bugs maybe isn't get a big rewards, if we wants to found a critical bugs we need to be a programmers or like a white hacker. Since our money under casino provider accounts, they are easy to freeze our money if we are take advantages with that bug. Because take edvantage of it was like a cheating activity, I believe we will hard to withdraw our money after it happens..
hero member
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July 19, 2023, 08:44:05 AM
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Of course I realized that it was wrong and as a grown-up man, I never done it again. Cheating online is possible for a skilled hacker and then it was also safer because they can use some tools to hide their identity. If their accounts get caught and close down, they can easily create another one and do the same thing again.
what I know is that fraud that occurs in online gambling is usually that they cheat from bonuses given by gambling parties and abuse KYC to benefit from these bonuses. for me cheating in physical gambling or online gambling is very different, I mean cheating online casino we sacrifice KYC or someone's personal data which has a very bad long term risk. but cheating in physical gambling as we have experienced we don't have to sacrifice our personal data and it's not too risky in the long run as long as we don't get caught by the casino owners
hero member
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July 19, 2023, 08:34:27 AM
I can't even imagine how I can cheat the casino when I play slots or poker. It seems to me that the security system has envisaged all possible ways of cheating from the user and excluded them. If I find a bug that allows me to earn money, I would rather report it to the casino security service than use it because I do not need other people's money and I earn quite well honestly.
By reporting it, we will not commit fraud that might impact our account. We also help the casino by reporting the bug so that the casino can fix it immediately. Well, being honest can have a good impact on us. At least we have been honest with ourselves not to cheat even through the casino. The casino system must also know if there are gamblers who cheat and will give punishment to those who cheat the system.
Let alone cheating, using a strategy I still don't believe especially in slot games that I hear a lot from other people about them applying strategies so they can win the game.
For bugs, I have never found any bugs from a game, maybe other people have experienced it, but for myself never. You're right that if we report it when we find something like that, it's a good thing, and good things bring good things. Maybe when we report a problem, they will reward us for our report, it could be possible.  Grin
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July 19, 2023, 08:08:48 AM
I can't even imagine how I can cheat the casino when I play slots or poker. It seems to me that the security system has envisaged all possible ways of cheating from the user and excluded them. If I find a bug that allows me to earn money, I would rather report it to the casino security service than use it because I do not need other people's money and I earn quite well honestly.
By reporting it, we will not commit fraud that might impact our account. We also help the casino by reporting the bug so that the casino can fix it immediately. Well, being honest can have a good impact on us. At least we have been honest with ourselves not to cheat even through the casino. The casino system must also know if there are gamblers who cheat and will give punishment to those who cheat the system.
Actually we are required to be honest because there is no other way but to be honest, if we continue to force fraud or take the opportunity when a system error occurs then eventually they will still find out and our account will be given a penalty, their security system is very tight so I think there is no loophole for us to play dirty.
Playing cheating is indeed not good and if you continue it will be bad luck someday, but cheating at casinos is only a small possibility because casinos are designed as safe as possible from fraud or cheating.
and even if it does. If you are caught cheating at a casino, you will surely face criminal prosecution, a lifetime ban on that casino property, and most likely a ban for all other casinos due to interrelated fraud issues.
legendary
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July 19, 2023, 07:52:35 AM
I can't even imagine how I can cheat the casino when I play slots or poker. It seems to me that the security system has envisaged all possible ways of cheating from the user and excluded them. If I find a bug that allows me to earn money, I would rather report it to the casino security service than use it because I do not need other people's money and I earn quite well honestly.

It happens very rare when someone can actually find and report a bug, and I think the rewards for that should be big. In my opinion, it should be like an additional game on the platform: finding and reporting a bug. But again, I think it would be less often than once in a year, if ever, when a bug worth reporting is found.
hero member
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July 19, 2023, 07:10:11 AM
Theres no skill in most cheating, its about laziness most of the time and most players who choose this route are a little bit dull ending up caught quite easily.

I would not accept it that there's no required skills needed to cheat on something, infact it's mostly believed that those who partake in this kind of unlawful acts were experienced professionals in that field who want to byepass the normal protocols because of their greediness and desire to have more money with them on a platter of gold, but they also give it all it demands to make those cracks on their walls in other to penetrate in

The most typical use of cheating is just to copy paste instructions from a guide given by those who sell the software or method to cheating.   If the cheat is actually well known by all parties & will lead to a ban barely matters to the person selling the get rich quick scheme.    We get people selling cheats on this forum, its often just a lie and the money sent for their snake oil is wasted.

Either the cheat is from an insider or not, once they make an attempt for it, such has been recorded about them and it may only take a while to get them completely tracked down, anything illegally acquired cannot last no matter how cheap it was.
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July 19, 2023, 07:07:39 AM
I can't even imagine how I can cheat the casino when I play slots or poker. It seems to me that the security system has envisaged all possible ways of cheating from the user and excluded them. If I find a bug that allows me to earn money, I would rather report it to the casino security service than use it because I do not need other people's money and I earn quite well honestly.
By reporting it, we will not commit fraud that might impact our account. We also help the casino by reporting the bug so that the casino can fix it immediately. Well, being honest can have a good impact on us. At least we have been honest with ourselves not to cheat even through the casino. The casino system must also know if there are gamblers who cheat and will give punishment to those who cheat the system.
Actually we are required to be honest because there is no other way but to be honest, if we continue to force fraud or take the opportunity when a system error occurs then eventually they will still find out and our account will be given a penalty, their security system is very tight so I think there is no loophole for us to play dirty.
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July 19, 2023, 06:51:54 AM
I can't even imagine how I can cheat the casino when I play slots or poker. It seems to me that the security system has envisaged all possible ways of cheating from the user and excluded them. If I find a bug that allows me to earn money, I would rather report it to the casino security service than use it because I do not need other people's money and I earn quite well honestly.
By reporting it, we will not commit fraud that might impact our account. We also help the casino by reporting the bug so that the casino can fix it immediately. Well, being honest can have a good impact on us. At least we have been honest with ourselves not to cheat even through the casino. The casino system must also know if there are gamblers who cheat and will give punishment to those who cheat the system.
legendary
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July 19, 2023, 05:14:37 AM
I can't even imagine how I can cheat the casino when I play slots or poker. It seems to me that the security system has envisaged all possible ways of cheating from the user and excluded them. If I find a bug that allows me to earn money, I would rather report it to the casino security service than use it because I do not need other people's money and I earn quite well honestly.
hero member
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July 19, 2023, 05:06:19 AM
If someone commits fraud in the casino, maybe they can get a win by committing fraudulent actions, but the casino will not give the winnings money or will never approve withdrawals that are made because of course every big win is always scrutinized and thoroughly monitored checked by the casino team with the aim of avoiding any fraud committed by gamblers.
After all, when it is proven to be cheating, the casino will immediately freeze the balance or ban the account, so there is no point in cheating in a casino.
It's better to play or bet when you are absolutely sure of the luck that is on your side or when you have a fairly accurate prediction.
Even if you do abuse of the terms and conditions that will be selediki by their side, including from VPN users, create multiple accounts or actions that are suspected that the casino will detect it, we will never win to any cheating moreover this action is very hated by them and need to know the casino is now stricter whatever they suspect will be followed up.

Sometimes with big wins and even normal play, the casino always checks back manually, we may have seen that case here, so it is clear why make cheating because in their system they will always be found out, whoever does that action then he has malicious intentions for his cheating.
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July 19, 2023, 04:57:19 AM
I don't think, it will be easy for someone to cheat in the gambling center and go free because everything around the gambling center are computerized and it will be easy for them to tracy the person that Carry out such bad activity and they will collect the money back.  Don't forget that gambling center is a business created by person or individual for profit purpose, so why will you be going such a place with the spirit of cheating, and you think you will go free from there alive, if you don't have money to gamble at the moment, you can gamble another day. I hate cheating, which I will never do such a thing to somebody in the gambling center because the person is there to earn from his business so that he can become a better person in the community.
If someone commits fraud in the casino, maybe they can get a win by committing fraudulent actions, but the casino will not give the winnings money or will never approve withdrawals that are made because of course every big win is always scrutinized and thoroughly monitored checked by the casino team with the aim of avoiding any fraud committed by gamblers.
After all, when it is proven to be cheating, the casino will immediately freeze the balance or ban the account, so there is no point in cheating in a casino.
It's better to play or bet when you are absolutely sure of the luck that is on your side or when you have a fairly accurate prediction.
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July 18, 2023, 11:26:39 PM
Quote from: Stepstowealth
As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.

Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?

I don't think, it will be easy for someone to cheat in the gambling center and go free because everything around the gambling center are computerized and it will be easy for them to tracy the person that Carry out such bad activity and they will collect the money back.  Don't forget that gambling center is a business created by person or individual for profit purpose, so why will you be going such a place with the spirit of cheating, and you think you will go free from there alive, if you don't have money to gamble at the moment, you can gamble another day. I hate cheating, which I will never do such a thing to somebody in the gambling center because the person is there to earn from his business so that he can become a better person in the community.
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July 18, 2023, 11:15:06 PM
A gambler is always a gambler, and even the word gambling is not some nice to hear about. Though people see it in different ways. Ordinary with this concert only, you will understand that a gambler will like to do some tricks to win his opponent. Look at the following.
A gamble is a risky action or decision that you take in the hope of gaining money, success, or an advantage over other people.. I don't think there is a genuine gambler in the gambling field or space. Everyone is interested to win the other so if the opportunity comes for them to manipulate they system they will definitely do it.

And op you title should be "do" and not "will". I mean the first word in the title.
legendary
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July 18, 2023, 11:07:20 PM
That coin poking thing do also happen here in our place but it wasn't a gambling machine that is involved but it is an arcade video game. Kids does this all the time whenever the owner of the gaming place is not around and there are no CCTV's back in time so they never get caught. Not gonna lie but I got involved with it before.

Of course I realized that it was wrong and as a grown-up man, I never done it again. Cheating online is possible for a skilled hacker and then it was also safer because they can use some tools to hide their identity. If their accounts get caught and close down, they can easily create another one and do the same thing again.
Cheating can also happen if there is a bug on the code and a gambler finds a way to exploit it to their advantage, after all the biggest advantage that casinos have is that the outcome of their games is random, however if a gambler finds a bug and finds some kind of hidden sequence then they can easily make a lot of money regardless of how unlikely that sequence really is, now this is very rare but there have been some cases like this on the past.
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July 18, 2023, 10:48:14 PM
When I get pissed off continuously what I'll do, my mind will think of cheating. This is common with human beings, and the reality is different. We won't be able to cheat the platform, but when we keep losing it looks like we're being cheated. If you go request support you'll be directed to cross check the seed and find it fair. Now what is more, with sports betting if you get some fixed matches you can make a winning. Every human mind thinks it is easy to win out of gambling, and later understand the difficulty where the mind thinks about cheating and other plans which isn't possible. Roll Eyes This is all about the casinos and not about the Gambling Machines.
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legendary
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July 18, 2023, 06:52:24 PM
Theres no skill in most cheating, its about laziness most of the time and most players who choose this route are a little bit dull ending up caught quite easily.   The most typical use of cheating is just to copy paste instructions from a guide given by those who sell the software or method to cheating.   If the cheat is actually well known by all parties & will lead to a ban barely matters to the person selling the get rich quick scheme.    We get people selling cheats on this forum, its often just a lie and the money sent for their snake oil is wasted.
hero member
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July 18, 2023, 03:33:52 PM
Nothing new, people want to beat the system which is doing illegal things one of example is cheating to the gambling casino, we know how people are knowledgeable into computers especially with bots, and other formats or ways just to by pass the current system but of course the developers not called as developers if they cant see this hole in their system that might abuse by the players reason why some of the accounts came from cheaters and abusers getting freeze because of their illegal activities. They see gambling as easy money because of their knowledge but of course at the end there's a consequences of doing this kind of act.
Yeah, I agree such developers and gamblers always look for loops in the algorithms of the casino and then use such holes for gaining an advantage against the house. It is a matter of time to get the attention of the casino developers who gonna freeze account activity and maybe sue the user for such illegal activity. Anyways, nowadays casino managers do bug bounties for findings possible vulnerabilities and they send big rewards to the hunters, AFAIK. It is better to use dev skills on the related industries, IMO.
There's a difference between abusing or using a found flaw in the game and actively wearing the inner workings of the game for the sake of a guaranteed win. With the latter I can't stand by cause it's just a crime at that point and it ruins the integrity of the game. The dilemma only follows people who have found a flaw, not those who actively made it within the system for their personal benefit. If I ever see one close by I'd be telling the guards on them or the whole gambling site nevermind being called a snitch or a rat. First and foremost you shouldn't gamble for profit and should only gamble for fun. If I see you actively deteriorating the integrity of the game just so you can bag some win that's going to be a different story buckaroo.
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