It depends on the bug. If you are not aware of it, it should be forgiven. But if it was a proven exploitation, then your account would be justified in being punished. Generally, if you know of some crucial bug, do not try to make use of it; eventually, you'll be punished for taking advantage of it. Be fair.
Now the question is how do they know the difference or be able to identify you being aware of the bug or not, how will a casino know your true plight and intentions not to harm or attack them, i think the best solution here is to completely avoid bug, they have a system that controls such and if you're suspected for one they or be friendly with you by any chance, once a bug is detected and does not relate to you or traced on you, you may be free indeed, but casinos are very detestable when it comes to issues on bugs.
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It depends on the bug. If you are not aware of it, it should be forgiven. But if it was a proven exploitation, then your account would be justified in being punished. Generally, if you know of some crucial bug, do not try to make use of it; eventually, you'll be punished for taking advantage of it. Be fair.
Now the question is how do they know the difference or be able to identify you being aware of the bug or not, how will a casino know your true plight and intentions not to harm or attack them, i think the best solution here is to completely avoid bug, they have a system that controls such and if you're suspected for one they or be friendly with you by any chance, once a bug is detected and does not relate to you or traced on you, you may be free indeed, but casinos are very detestable when it comes to issues on bugs.If someone left their house open, and someone goes inside and steals something, it's stealing. Taking advantage of a bug to make money and trying to withdraw it is an attempt of stealing, no doubt about that.
That's right, if there is an open house, there is definitely a potential for theft. But if the bug is in the game and our winning is in the time the bug is running, maybe our money will be frozen. It's not about hacking, but bugs during the game. Well, when that happened, I thought it could be considered cheating by provider, that's why I said that instead of losing our chance to win from bugs because in the end the money was frozen, it's better to report maybe you can get a bigger reward. However, we ourselves are definitely not aware that bugs are happening in the game.
It happens very rare when someone can actually find and report a bug, and I think the rewards for that should be big. In my opinion, it should be like an additional game on the platform: finding and reporting a bug. But again, I think it would be less often than once in a year, if ever, when a bug worth reporting is found.
Front end or UI bugs maybe isn't get a big rewards, if we wants to found a critical bugs we need to be a programmers or like a white hacker.
Even reports of the front end bugs should be rewarded, but, I agree, it's not something critical so the reward can be small, like $10 maybe.
Since our money under casino provider accounts, they are easy to freeze our money if we are take advantages with that bug. Because take edvantage of it was like a cheating activity, I believe we will hard to withdraw our money after it happens..
If someone left their house open, and someone goes inside and steals something, it's stealing. Taking advantage of a bug to make money and trying to withdraw it is an attempt of stealing, no doubt about that.
It depends on the bug. If you are not aware of it, it should be forgiven. But if it was a proven exploitation, then your account would be justified in being punished. Generally, if you know of some crucial bug, do not try to make use of it; eventually, you'll be punished for taking advantage of it. Be fair.
Now the question is how do they know the difference or be able to identify you being aware of the bug or not, how will a casino know your true plight and intentions not to harm or attack them, i think the best solution here is to completely avoid bug, they have a system that controls such and if you're suspected for one they or be friendly with you by any chance, once a bug is detected and does not relate to you or traced on you, you may be free indeed, but casinos are very detestable when it comes to issues on bugs.
As a morally upright person that does not like to cheat people, but gambles and has lost a lot of money to gambling in a casino where you have sometimes been cheated even without your knowledge or betting on sports, will you take an opportunity you get and go against your moral standards to cheat a casino or sportsbetting place, just so you can win big at least even once.
Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
Probably, my moral standards are too low. Yes, I would do both of such things. But if I knew I could get in prison for fraud, then my answer is no, definitely. Will you try a trick to win on casino game machines if you were told and it is a 100% working trick to cash out? Will you bet on fixed games if you get the tip early?
Correct, it may seem impossible not only to find those bugs but to the bugs themselves to exist at all, but as you mention the more familiar a person is with a particular platform the easier it will be for them to notice a glitch they may be able to use for their own benefit.
And a great example of this are video games, in which fans of a particular game are able to break it completely just days after it has been released, as they are experts on finding bugs they can use in order to end the video game the fastest or get the highest score.
And a great example of this are video games, in which fans of a particular game are able to break it completely just days after it has been released, as they are experts on finding bugs they can use in order to end the video game the fastest or get the highest score.
Before the casino launches their project, they will release in a UAT or the user acceptance testing that will bring into their Quality Assurance team or the QA to test any bugs before launching to the production mode. During the live of course, we cannot deny that there's an instance that will show up with some bugs that didn't find in that time, in that case they will temporarily terminate the services of the game and fix those bugs to prevent getting abused by the players.
@Peanutswar The developer of the project will allow the gamblers to use their site and give the feedback to the core developers team.This was used by developers to rectify the bug at the earliest stage,but some bug will comes after the casino site get into active.Such bug can be solved once the gamblers report after the bug comes on the usage of the casino site.
Correct, it may seem impossible not only to find those bugs but to the bugs themselves to exist at all, but as you mention the more familiar a person is with a particular platform the easier it will be for them to notice a glitch they may be able to use for their own benefit.
And a great example of this are video games, in which fans of a particular game are able to break it completely just days after it has been released, as they are experts on finding bugs they can use in order to end the video game the fastest or get the highest score.
And a great example of this are video games, in which fans of a particular game are able to break it completely just days after it has been released, as they are experts on finding bugs they can use in order to end the video game the fastest or get the highest score.
Before the casino launches their project, they will release in a UAT or the user acceptance testing that will bring into their Quality Assurance team or the QA to test any bugs before launching to the production mode. During the live of course, we cannot deny that there's an instance that will show up with some bugs that didn't find in that time, in that case they will temporarily terminate the services of the game and fix those bugs to prevent getting abused by the players.
Now back to the gamblers, refusing to give into temptation is something most people find difficult to do when it comes to making money quick, that's why about 50-60% of gamblers would want to take chances no matter the risk of getting caught, most of this people are poor or middle class people that's lost most of their money to gambling and would seize an opportunity if they discover any means of cheating the gambling platform to get rich quick or gey back their funds but the best way to avoid this temptation is by quiting even if it's not permanent, if you've lost enough money in gambling atleast pause for a while, study the game and how it works restrategise and you might be lucky when you try again after a while.
Correct, it may seem impossible not only to find those bugs but to the bugs themselves to exist at all, but as you mention the more familiar a person is with a particular platform the easier it will be for them to notice a glitch they may be able to use for their own benefit.
And a great example of this are video games, in which fans of a particular game are able to break it completely just days after it has been released, as they are experts on finding bugs they can use in order to end the video game the fastest or get the highest score.
And a great example of this are video games, in which fans of a particular game are able to break it completely just days after it has been released, as they are experts on finding bugs they can use in order to end the video game the fastest or get the highest score.
Before the casino launches their project, they will release in a UAT or the user acceptance testing that will bring into their Quality Assurance team or the QA to test any bugs before launching to the production mode. During the live of course, we cannot deny that there's an instance that will show up with some bugs that didn't find in that time, in that case they will temporarily terminate the services of the game and fix those bugs to prevent getting abused by the players.
By losing a lot in gambling casino sites, a gambler would definitely do it. I will. Just to get back whatever the gambler lost.
This is actually why gambling sites are strengthening their security. Anti-spam to avoid flooding, anti-hack, and anti-cheat. Everything that has to do with stealing something from them.
If there's a hole that you could take advantage of, do so. Get back all the money they got from you and some profits so you can gamble again in the normal way where they will always win.
I just recently saw how cruel it could be for those who gamble a lot but have not withdrawn anything and not because the gambling site is not allowing them but because they want more. If they will be in that position where there's a chance to cheat then they will. It's not about "moral standards" anymore because their mind processing is hatred towards the gambling site where they lose a ton of money, they will do it without a tiny doubt.
This is actually why gambling sites are strengthening their security. Anti-spam to avoid flooding, anti-hack, and anti-cheat. Everything that has to do with stealing something from them.
If there's a hole that you could take advantage of, do so. Get back all the money they got from you and some profits so you can gamble again in the normal way where they will always win.
I just recently saw how cruel it could be for those who gamble a lot but have not withdrawn anything and not because the gambling site is not allowing them but because they want more. If they will be in that position where there's a chance to cheat then they will. It's not about "moral standards" anymore because their mind processing is hatred towards the gambling site where they lose a ton of money, they will do it without a tiny doubt.
Exploits are always the secret weapon of every player who wants to take advantage of the casino, I don't know, but to avoid it, what casinos do is increase their security, but as I have said on many occasions, it would be great. if the casino could offer great rewards, very juicy for those who discover vulnerabilities, and thus the casino avoids being hacked, but I have not seen casinos that reward or encourage this type of practice to be rewarded, on many occasions Casinos that have been hacked is because they do not offer this type of help or rewards.
So far I have seen many casinos that have invested a lot in their security , it's not bad , since everything related to AI is in fashion, I Imagine that they are introducing security of all kinds including this one, although it has not been Determined that an AI can break the Blockchain codes must be taken care of very much , I have seen that some casinos with great security there are Always Some holes that some Criminals see and take Advantage of.
Yes, but the idea is that the casinos try to see these things to learn, and promote that when there are some vulnerabilities they Should be well paid , in the case of this Casino they were Lucky , But which one was not? And if they lose all that money , how do they do it or How would they do it ? Sometimes things can't become like that, obviously it's cheating , an exploit is that, but if we go to the real level, can some experts do it , spend the money for a lot of mixers, and how do they get caught ? So this kind of thing sometimes doesn't make sense , so it's easier to offer good rewards and encourage them to find bugs and be well rewarded.
The issue or the Simple case of rewards represents little and is worth so much that they Could be handled with logical thinking so that it can be determined that things can be done in the most correct way and that activate white hat hackers to Identify Vulnerabilities, also for doing good and being rewarded with good rewards could avoid Millions in losses, sites will Always be vulnerable, also a database can be vulnerable if seconds are neglected, this type of thing They are the ones that have to be seen , Otherwise I believe that there is no way for the bad or the bad people to triumph.
Of course , I know that this way of psnar is just my idea, it is not Something that a Casino is Going to do, maybe one or another can Take my idea , but the idea is not that Bad , that is why it is always good to give ideas Here to see if a casino is encouraged to take Our Ideas , as long as it is to Contribute , it is Better.
I don't even think about taking advantage of the bugs in a casino, because when that happens, they will also detect things that are not natural when we win a game for example. When that happens it will affect our account which may later be limited because it is detected and considered cheating. In fact, it is not cheating that we do, but rather take advantage of something that we can benefit from.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.
I honestly wonder, is it easy to find bugs. I'm pretty sure that, it's not that easy. and even if someone finds a bug to cheat the casino, there is a risk that must be borne by the culprit. even then, if the bug works it can be used as a medium to cheat the casino.
Well, the problem is that every casino usually has security to prevent these things. moreover, for a reputable casino that has a lot of customers. in fact, every casino always carries out maintenance which is their routine.
Theoretically there is no single web or site related to the internet, which cannot be broken into. However, not just anyone can do it. even then, the perpetrators must know, that will not produce anything. because any fraud that is committed will definitely be detected and the casino will swiftly suspend accounts involved in fraud.
by the way, this is only based on my personal point of view. after all, what is the essence of cheating in gambling. for example playing slots, if you know you're going to win by cheating, it's no longer fun. except, someone who has bad intentions to get easy money from the casino.
Yes you are right, every site will do regular maintenances, so that it can prevent this kind of thing that can harm them.
Winning by cheating is not fun, but for some people whose goal is to make them profitable, they will do it, no matter what.
Since I only play to make me happy, I don't think about doing that, especially since I'm not an expert who must have more skills.
The longer you play in a particular casino the more you can easily notice some bugs or glitch to exploit. Its the same when you play some strategy games today which the longer you learn about the game, you know it very well like its the back of your hand and there could be one incident that you would take advantage to win. Not necessarily a cheat but one example of this is the giveaway where some users are exploiting it.
There is a casino that I never really get to leave and I go there from time to time to check, they don't do give away anymore because its been exploited by users lol Been waiting and seem like they've stopped.
Correct, it may seem impossible not only to find those bugs but to the bugs themselves to exist at all, but as you mention the more familiar a person is with a particular platform the easier it will be for them to notice a glitch they may be able to use for their own benefit.There is a casino that I never really get to leave and I go there from time to time to check, they don't do give away anymore because its been exploited by users lol Been waiting and seem like they've stopped.
And a great example of this are video games, in which fans of a particular game are able to break it completely just days after it has been released, as they are experts on finding bugs they can use in order to end the video game the fastest or get the highest score.
Before the casino launches their project, they will release in a UAT or the user acceptance testing that will bring into their Quality Assurance team or the QA to test any bugs before launching to the production mode. During the live of course, we cannot deny that there's an instance that will show up with some bugs that didn't find in that time, in that case they will temporarily terminate the services of the game and fix those bugs to prevent getting abused by the players.
Haha as simple as it is. There's a quote that goes "You never break the rules, you only break yourself to abide the rules." So when you do things that you know is wrong, you're breaking your own self and virtue. Not only that you will pay legally for the damage and cheating that you cause, you're doing the wrong thing.
Also when you are caught, regardless if you're aware of it or not you will still pay for it. So be a wise gambler.
It makes me wonder whether casinos usually have some bug or exploit bounty program, like the one we have here in the forum. I think it would be very productive for both the industry and the gamblers/white hat hackers who ended up finding a bug by chance or by studying the system of the casino.
In the end, disclosing a bug and getting awarded by it is better than becoming a criminal.
I have found some information on Stake back from 2018, which implies they offer tips to users who responsibly report exploits to them, very cool, imo.
I don't even think about taking advantage of the bugs in a casino, because when that happens, they will also detect things that are not natural when we win a game for example. When that happens it will affect our account which may later be limited because it is detected and considered cheating. In fact, it is not cheating that we do, but rather take advantage of something that we can benefit from.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.
I honestly wonder, is it easy to find bugs. I'm pretty sure that, it's not that easy. and even if someone finds a bug to cheat the casino, there is a risk that must be borne by the culprit. even then, if the bug works it can be used as a medium to cheat the casino.
Well, the problem is that every casino usually has security to prevent these things. moreover, for a reputable casino that has a lot of customers. in fact, every casino always carries out maintenance which is their routine.
Theoretically there is no single web or site related to the internet, which cannot be broken into. However, not just anyone can do it. even then, the perpetrators must know, that will not produce anything. because any fraud that is committed will definitely be detected and the casino will swiftly suspend accounts involved in fraud.
by the way, this is only based on my personal point of view. after all, what is the essence of cheating in gambling. for example playing slots, if you know you're going to win by cheating, it's no longer fun. except, someone who has bad intentions to get easy money from the casino.
Haha as simple as it is. There's a quote that goes "You never break the rules, you only break yourself to abide the rules." So when you do things that you know is wrong, you're breaking your own self and virtue. Not only that you will pay legally for the damage and cheating that you cause, you're doing the wrong thing.
Also when you are caught, regardless if you're aware of it or not you will still pay for it. So be a wise gambler.
I don't even think about taking advantage of the bugs in a casino, because when that happens, they will also detect things that are not natural when we win a game for example. When that happens it will affect our account which may later be limited because it is detected and considered cheating. In fact, it is not cheating that we do, but rather take advantage of something that we can benefit from.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.
Taking advantage of the bugs can pose a harm to your account especially if you are using your main account that is verified and has funds in it. Your account can be flagged for doing unusual activities that violate their TOS and thus, could be given a punishment such as account restriction, suspension, and even being permanently banned. If you want to take advantage of the glitches, make sure you are ready for the consequences because there's no such thing as unnoticed in casino monitoring.
For me, getting a profit that may not be large is not worth what we will feel with account banning or something like that. Usually if we are already flagged, then the slightest suspicious activity will make a casino act more than usual.
It's our choice whether to report it or use it, but I'm sure most people would think the same as I do. So choose wisely.
That is why some sites offer rewards to those who can find bugs in the system. Though it was their part to investigate and look for some irregularities inside but as responsible gamblers, we also have to report even though we never get money because there is trust which is most important. As long as the site has not cheated anyone, they should also get respect and no reason to cheat. Cheaters could be found too easily, so we never have to try it because in the end, we are the only ones that suffer the most.
Besides that, there's no point in cheating the casino. After all, the casino will know if we are cheating on the casino because the casino can easily check all of its user accounts. And after being caught, the casino can punish us according to the rules that apply at the casino. If the casino wants, our account, including all our balances, can be blocked easily to make us regret what we have done. It's better to report to the casino if we find a bug so that the casino can immediately check and fix it. After all, the casino could have rewarded us for helping the securities team find the bug.looking at the current scenario where all casinos or most casinos have placed high requirements for sign-up bonuses, I doubt very much that there are still many cheaters, most people have been playing fair without cheating, I say this because in sports betting there is no how can someone cheat and many casino games also have no way for people to cheat, and the arguments that some casinos have used to confiscate the customers' money that is in the casino account are meaningless arguments and why most of the time the very casino that is accusing the customer of cheating cannot show evidence that the customer cheated
I have seen many cases where the casino accuses the customer of having too many accounts, but when asked: how many accounts that person has, how much money each account has abused, the casino is unable to say and show evidence, and when you go to the casino if you see that to have a bonus there is 30x of the bonus amount and it must be played using deposited money, and when you see the withdrawal requirement, there is a high withdrawal amount and sometimes 3x of the deposited amount, so who the hell would want it having many accounts at a casino with those requirements, nobody. It's hard for people to cheat, and it's a fact that many people have been playing by the rules and some casinos keep inventing things to avoid paying, especially new casinos on the market.
Well, I can't help that everything you say is true, a casino can always invent excuses for not paying, for them, the cases in which they say they cheated or that they began to see suspicious activities, they blocked the account and left it like that, and that is an act that should not be worthy of a casino, if the casino blocks an account, they must demonstrate the reasons why they blocked it and gave it that treatment, when any player knows that they have won and can withdraw their money, they should not say no, they cannot be denied the right to do so , yes I agree with what you say, and it happens mostly in casinos that are relatively new, because an old casino is not going to get into huge trouble.
Of course, I am not saying that new casinos get into this type of problem, but rather that most problems tend to do so, so to be clear, most of the problems can come from new casinos, of course now there are many more things that can happen in casinos that are old, personally I think that as players we should not trust anything, because at any time an error in the gaming system or something must be reported and if that error occurs our money is affected, because even more so, casinos must always demonstrate any type of play, for this they do blockchain audits, I don't know that so many casinos have the option for players to review the play, but every casino is and should have that option, so that in case of any problem they can show the respective evidence, whether due to lack of player or lack of casino.
I don't even think about taking advantage of the bugs in a casino, because when that happens, they will also detect things that are not natural when we win a game for example. When that happens it will affect our account which may later be limited because it is detected and considered cheating. In fact, it is not cheating that we do, but rather take advantage of something that we can benefit from.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.
Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.
Taking advantage of the bugs can pose a harm to your account especially if you are using your main account that is verified and has funds in it. Your account can be flagged for doing unusual activities that violate their TOS and thus, could be given a punishment such as account restriction, suspension, and even being permanently banned. If you want to take advantage of the glitches, make sure you are ready for the consequences because there's no such thing as unnoticed in casino monitoring.
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I don't even think about taking advantage of the bugs in a casino, because when that happens, they will also detect things that are not natural when we win a game for example. When that happens it will affect our account which may later be limited because it is detected and considered cheating. In fact, it is not cheating that we do, but rather take advantage of something that we can benefit from.Yes you are right, they can announce such things, not for the purpose of contests or the like, but for their interests as well.
But for some reason, some people still try to find bugs in many casinos to win at gambling. They don't think that their accounts are caught cheating by the casino because they only think of using the bugs to their advantage.
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