Topic: Will you cheat in gambling? - page 15. (Read 3674 times)

So, you are exposing yourself here by saying you will cheat for a significant amount that might change your life? How much is enough for you to cheat? No matter what people say in this thread, most people will cheat. No matter how much the amount is. I once thought I would create multiple accounts on a website, claim the faucet and tip to another account. By then, the website allowed multiple accounts but did not allow faucet farming.

Some people around us don't care about the amount. No matter if it's a dollar or a million dollars. You won't be able to convince them with the money. BTW, it's not charming to expose yourself on the internet.

Here is the case of Primedice which you might find interesting to read: https://www.casino.org/news/primedice-com-loses-over-1-million-to-player-exploiting-coding-flaw/

I would not try to cheat at a casino where I regularly gambled at. The risk is too high of getting caught and banned which would mean I could no longer collect any future benefits and bonuses. For a small amount of money it would not be worth taking a chance but if there was an exploit like the one that was used to win thousands of Bitcoins from Primedice then it would be crazy to not consider it. Only for that kind of once in a lifetime type of opportunity would it be worth taking a chance.

There's nothing fine in giving an attempt to cheat when knowing that the end result will always be banned, doing what is not right cannot last but a few moments, the casinos also has security measures taken to tackle every attempted means to cheat on their system and the gambler will end loosing instead of looting the casino.


I think in this kind of scenario, they will not temporary ban the user account but give it a permanent ban even though they may try to subject such user to more protocols under KYC requirements but his account may not get unlocked at the end after wasting his time as well on false hope that his account may get unlocked through the process.

The condition on OP scenario is the cheat is 100% working that you can cashout profit. It’s not about if you can withdraw question but the integrity of gamblers if you will have a choice to do it with sure method or not. I doubt about consequence since most casino only ask KYC when they find out that account is involved in shady activities which on this case player is on stealth mode amd withdraw funds without being notice.

As a gambler, I might be tempted to do it considering this will work 100% but I will definitely halt in the middle since I can’t accept money that is earned in this way.

That is already your chance to bet on that specific game and while it's not guaranteed as you don't know the reality of it, there is no need for you to doubt it because what you're dealing with is still the same bet, like a coin that got two sides but with a higher chance.
Besides, I think you did the right thing because I don't think that anybody will reject that information after knowing first hand about these fixed bets. Not all the gamblers will have the opportunity to know something like this as it's usually not shared to a much bigger crowd.

Well, you might be right about the security systems and teams of the casinos that are always ready to identify and catch cheating gamblers, but I don't really think that those who get the opportunity to cheat the casino will do it in a way that can be easily detected or caught by casino officials but it will be done in a way that they can't even know about it, and that is the main question about this topic that if you get such an opportunity, will you take it or not?

And to be honest, I don't think anyone would leave an opportunity like that where they are guaranteed to win some money and no one would even have a doubt about it or become suspicious that they did something that in a way cheated the casino but got them some money as a reward.

We all know that casinos come to make money and not to share money, it is clear that they have thought about this to deal with fraudulent users, for example cheating by taking advantage of bonuses given by casinos or others, they will be ready to arrest anyone who cheats because their system is much more sophisticated than what people think, because of that many cases that are caught on this forum are not strange.

Why do we have to do cheating if indeed we can still win with our strategy and expertise in gambling, I think maybe gamblers who are frustrated and have lost a lot will do things like that in order to be able to return what has been used up because of gambling, so usually that reason makes the most sense .

after you said about rigging a machine i remember in the past there was a young man who cheated a slot machine taking advantage of the bottom hole in the slot machine instead he used a small amount of money and tried to poke money out of the hole at the bottom of the machine those slots.
from this I conclude that cheating offline gambling is possible but cheating online gambling is a little impossible and even very risky for our accounts. I support your statement that it would be better if you choose a fixed bet rather than having to seek profit from crime against the dealer.

How do you imagine a gambler cheating a casino(it doesn't matter if it's online or offline casino)? Counting cards on an offline casino? This is extremely difficult for me and I know that the casinos have methods to catch gamblers, who are counting cards.
I don't know about any online casinos, that can be exploited. Even if such casinos exist, the exploit will easily get patched or the casino will simply shut down.
I would bet a small amount on a fixed sports event, but I don't believe that anyone would share verified information about fixed games for free over the internet.

If there is an opportunity, do you also want to commit such fraudulent acts?
Actually there is no reason for gamblers to cheat because it is clear that it is an offense and can bring the gambler himself into a complicated problem.
I will never learn to be able to fight and beat a machine because it's impossible to do, no matter how well you learn and you will never be able to beat a gambling machine.
Let's just say that in every game you are having fun then the victory will come automatically without you knowing it.

The developers of the game have set it up properly so that it will be difficult for players to cheat unless a system failure occurs so that players achieve unusual results and if I'm not mistaken it happened in one of the casinos where the game crash they has reached a multiplier of more than 100,000x but it was system failure not player cheating, but gradually the machine will be able to detect that there has been an error in their operational system.
Are there players who can actually consistently cheat at a casino? because I doubt that this will happen they have a system to detect irregularities that occur, and if there are players who can do it at several casinos I'm sure it's only temporary until the casino that has experienced a loss gives data about the player to the others casino so that it will be difficult for him to commit fraud.

Which I think is a kind of disorder.
We have parents who taught us about rules and how to obey them. Then, we learn about the law in our schools or even just outside with our friends. Not thinking about the consequences when you do something wrong has something to do with the past of each person. They may have lacked the people who taught them about it or they grew up in a place where there are no rules that need to be obeyed.

But I do believe when it comes to gambling there will be those who will try to take advantage of a flawed system. First, they want revenge for losing a lot of money from the unfair system. Second, they just want their money back. Finally, it will be an escape from being on the poor side of society. There are many reasons why it can be done and I do think even the honest ones will take advantage of it (what more a gambler) if they see there's an escape route with no jail time. Greed is just too evil.

We've set our daily targets in gambling, but we must encounter problems before we can meet our final strategies and achieve the previously defined common objectives. Of course, I would carry out all in my capacity to win games so I could earn profit. The reality of life is that surviving is winning. Surprisingly, these machines recognize when their systems are breached and rapidly apply to correct it, even if clients are victims of set games on the casino system. Only the brightest can comprehend gambling and play successfully within the framework.

Rather than cheating it is all about utilising the opportunity. It is really hard to win against the machines. There are people who are skilled enough to cheat the machines through learning. I don't have the patience to learn as well as try against the gambling machines that are completely focused on profit making. I will go with fixed bets, because in the past I've won with fixed bets information shared on our forum. I'm not sure how far the bet is real information or coincidence, but I was able to win a fixed bet.

There is a good reason casinos and other services like exchanges are probably in favor of getting KYC information about all their users, anyways. In the unlikely case someone finds a bug or a glitch which allowed them to withdraw money to a private wallet which does not rightfully belong to them, then it is a good chance the casino or the exchange could identity and track down the person taking the money. Even if the person does not live in a first world country where he/she could be arrested easily, that person would live in fear for the rest of their days and unable to step on other countries where would be arrested. I think it would not be worth it to anyone in that position.

Notice how more exchanges have been pushing for complete KYC summit even during registration in these latest years...

But what if you can get away with it? Because that's what I assume what OP is supposing in this scenario. If you could get away with taking advantage of the casino's bugs and glitches, or mayhaps a sleepy guard and a failed shuffle on a land casino, what would you do with it? Would you still not cheat cause "it's morally incorrect and my ethical standards aren't that low", or are you going to be tempted to cheat cause hey, that's a free win right there staring at you dead in the eye!

It's easy to dodge the dilemma by avoiding the argument and extrapolating the situation by including stuff that's in paper not within the bounds of the question anyway, just so your morality's not judged by the people here. But what matters most is actually providing a sensible answer to OP's questions, which I believe isn't even that hard in the first place.

Your analysis of sign-up bonuses and withdrawal requirements is fascinating, almost scholarly. Isnt it cognitively dissonant? Casinos promote a "fair game," but clients are cornered by imaginative and often baseless allegations. Trust is crucial to this sport. Trust that the house and players are playing fair. Player-casino trust is built on entertainment. To maintain game fairness, we must monitor and voice these issues.

This is very close to the truth, I remember reading on the past articles about how the majority of the criminals have problems when it comes to thinking about the long term consequences of their actions, they know that if they steal they may get some money they do not deserve, they understand that much, however in their minds they never think about the possibility of eventually being discovered, caught and sent to jail, so it is not they are not afraid of the consequences, they do not even think about them.

And when the casino has blocked our gambling account, we will regret it because we have cheated the casino. But some gamblers will complain on this forum or elsewhere and say that the casino is cheating and doesn't give good reasons for closing their accounts. So with a good security team, the casino will surely find people who intend to cheat the casino, and maybe they can stop the person before they commit the fraud.

They don't think to be afraid of the law because their goal is to cheat the casinos to get their profit. This is probably triggered because they often lose to the casino and think that the casino is cheating them. So they try to find ways to cheat casinos even though these ways are illegal and against the law. And even though someone might have been caught committing the fraud, that hasn't stopped other people from trying it because they think that the casino can't always be aware of leaks in their casino even though the casino may already know about it but haven't taken any action.

That's because the deceitful gambler knows that in a casino, there must be loopholes to exploit to gain from the casino. You've heard of someone trying to find a way to win by using certain codes that can help them win. Hackers may even deliberately enter the casino to find out what is in it. Casinos won't let that happen because they have a good security team that is always on hand to keep the casino safe from thieves. Only dishonest gamblers think they can walk into a casino and win and try to take their winnings. Meanwhile, the casino was aware of their illegal actions and immediately blocked their gambling accounts.

looking at the current scenario where all casinos or most casinos have placed high requirements for sign-up bonuses, I doubt very much that there are still many cheaters, most people have been playing fair without cheating, I say this because in sports betting there is no how can someone cheat and many casino games also have no way for people to cheat, and the arguments that some casinos have used to confiscate the customers' money that is in the casino account are meaningless arguments and why most of the time the very casino that is accusing the customer of cheating cannot show evidence that the customer cheated

I have seen many cases where the casino accuses the customer of having too many accounts, but when asked: how many accounts that person has, how much money each account has abused, the casino is unable to say and show evidence, and when you go to the casino if you see that to have a bonus there is 30x of the bonus amount and it must be played using deposited money, and when you see the withdrawal requirement, there is a high withdrawal amount and sometimes 3x of the deposited amount, so who the hell would want it having many accounts at a casino with those requirements, nobody. It's hard for people to cheat, and it's a fact that many people have been playing by the rules and some casinos keep inventing things to avoid paying, especially new casinos on the market.