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Quote from: wxa7115 on July 07, 2023, 12:38:10 AM

Like always we need to take into account the source of any information that we receive before we decide how to react, a person that does not know us does not really has the insight necessary about how we are and our regular behavior to make that kind of call, so you know that if a stranger tells you something like that then they are just trying to bother you.

Agree. A stranger knows nothing about us, it is impossible to suggest something good for us. If they tell us addiction, it is more like an insult. I think everyone will think in this way, not only you and me. However, I believe a stranger won't tell us something sensitive like addiction. A stranger has no reason to say that private thing.

Quote from: wxa7115 on July 07, 2023, 12:38:10 AM

However if a person that knows you very well tells you that then that is a red flag, as it is likely that they have noticed something wrong on your behavior and you should listen to them about the reasons why they think you have developed some gambling issues.

Yep. It is not something easy to say, judging for addiction must have a serious reason. Those close people who state it probably know something that can be a valid indicator about addiction. We may spend time too much in gambling, we probably waste money excessively, or we are getting difficult to control our emotional. If they know one of these reasons, it is their responsibility to tell us. So, we can't blame them, we only need to correct the wrong attitude.

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Quote from: Stable090 on July 07, 2023, 05:49:16 AM

If a friend of mine that’s a gambler call me a addicted gambler, I won’t be angry, but if it’s just a friend tag that those not not gamble, then it’s a insult and I will be angry, why will you call me addicted gambler in public, it those not make any sense, why will you call me a addicted gambler in public, that means you are trying to insult me in public. If a gambler like me calls me the name, then I will see it as a normal thing.

Lmao I don't understand where you're trying to go with this example but I guess you have a point, being called out in public isn't nice but then again sometimes it takes public humiliation for you to realize that something's wrong with your behavior, especially if you yourself is a little on the stubborn side and wouldn't be expected to listen to your friend's advices even if your life depended on it.

Quote from: Stable090 on July 07, 2023, 05:49:16 AM

In my society, if they see that you are a gambler, they see you as a bad influence, or a bad person, if you are a gambler, it’s better you keep it to yourself and don’t expose yourself to the public, because immediately people know that you are a gambler, then they will stop associating themselves from you.

I don't think that's how it works my friend. The question revolves around whether you're going to be offended if someone intervened with you. This is provided that people already knew you were a gambler in the first place. Additionally, there's a reason why gambling earns its negative reputation amongst the public, you can't blame them for thinking that some gamblers are gone for good cause at the end of the day, that is the truth in this industry.

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Quote from: Solosanz on July 07, 2023, 09:11:24 AM

Why you need to care with someone else opinion's toward you? did they even care with your opinion? nope.

Enjoy the life, choose your life and do what you like, as long as you know the good and bad thing, also know the risk, it's completely fine. In gambling you're the one who's responsible with your decision, for you it's fine to gamble $50 in a day but someone think it's too much. This is because your monthly salary is bigger than them and it cause the amount you can afford to lose is different for them.

I’m thinking like this too. I have a very private life and never share with other people from my wife yet my neighborhood knows what I’m doing especially as I’m casually playing gambling with my friends during event here. Gambling is view here is negative so being called as an addicted gambler can be classified as illegal drugs addict.

I didn’t care about others opinion and gossip even though I’m hearing things like this from my friends. I just considered them as my fanbase since they really care to my life by being updated on what I’m doing. We have nothing to prove or justify what we are doing to other people. If they will judge, so be it.

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Why you need to care with someone else opinion's toward you? did they even care with your opinion? nope.

Enjoy the life, choose your life and do what you like, as long as you know the good and bad thing, also know the risk, it's completely fine. In gambling you're the one who's responsible with your decision, for you it's fine to gamble $50 in a day but someone think it's too much. This is because your monthly salary is bigger than them and it cause the amount you can afford to lose is different for them.

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Quote from: len01 on July 07, 2023, 05:58:12 AM

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Accepting oneself and acknowledging bad habits can be difficult for many people, when it comes to being referred to as a gambling addict, responses vary among gamblers. Some may feel offended and deny their addiction, while others accept it, the fear of being stereotyped exists, however , self-awareness and acceptance are crucial for the healing proces, seeking help from therapists or support groups can assist in overcoming addiction, while otgers may stereotype or judge, it is essential to prioritize personal well-being and surround oneself with supportive individuals, each gambler's journey is unique and depends on their awareness, willingness to seek help, and support network, emphasizing empathy and understanding is crucial in the recovery process.

self-awareness has always been close to the adult mindset, that's for sure.
every gambler has different characteristics, but trying to become an adult will be much better, especially if gambling is very important. in terms of being offended when referred to as a gambling addict maybe that person has a bad mindset because of very high emotional disturbances when he becomes a gambling addict.
I fully support your statement that adult awareness and mindset can control a gambling addict.

Ofcourse unpleasant responses is meant to come from the mouths of those struggling emotionally with gambling addiction. A person may not see it disturbing that they're addicted to gambling, especially when its enjoyable to them. Calling them a gambling addict can fuel the ego of such an individual. Contrary to that, a gambler that is suffering multiple losses due to addiction will never give a pleasant response when addressed as an addict. In terms of self awareness it'll take sincere efforts and responsibility to control addiction for a suffering addict.

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Accepting oneself and acknowledging bad habits can be difficult for many people, when it comes to being referred to as a gambling addict, responses vary among gamblers. Some may feel offended and deny their addiction, while others accept it, the fear of being stereotyped exists, however , self-awareness and acceptance are crucial for the healing proces, seeking help from therapists or support groups can assist in overcoming addiction, while otgers may stereotype or judge, it is essential to prioritize personal well-being and surround oneself with supportive individuals, each gambler's journey is unique and depends on their awareness, willingness to seek help, and support network, emphasizing empathy and understanding is crucial in the recovery process.

self-awareness has always been close to the adult mindset, that's for sure.
every gambler has different characteristics, but trying to become an adult will be much better, especially if gambling is very important. in terms of being offended when referred to as a gambling addict maybe that person has a bad mindset because of very high emotional disturbances when he becomes a gambling addict.
I fully support your statement that adult awareness and mindset can control a gambling addict.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 03, 2023, 06:20:02 PM

If someone who is close to us or a friend circle referring me as a addicted gambler isn't a big issue.

If a friend of mine that’s a gambler call me a addicted gambler, I won’t be angry, but if it’s just a friend tag that those not not gamble, then it’s a insult and I will be angry, why will you call me addicted gambler in public, it those not make any sense, why will you call me a addicted gambler in public, that means you are trying to insult me in public. If a gambler like me calls me the name, then I will see it as a normal thing.

Quote from: n0ne on July 03, 2023, 06:20:02 PM

The society is developed in such a way that gambling money won't bring success as well as it is something against God and not the right thing. For this reason even my earnings through my job could be connected with gambling. Better is to hide our gambling activities and stay chill.

In my society, if they see that you are a gambler, they see you as a bad influence, or a bad person, if you are a gambler, it’s better you keep it to yourself and don’t expose yourself to the public, because immediately people know that you are a gambler, then they will stop associating themselves from you.

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Depending on who is the one telling it, if it is my own close friend who know how I'm dealing with gambling, I wont feel offended but if it is coming from someone who I do not even know, I'll feel offended. Simply because how can someone we do not even know judge us for something that they do not even know the fact? Anyway, even if I feel offended but I will not argue them because it is their own right to say something about us, I'll just ask them "who are you?" Grin

Of course, if a stranger judges us an addict, we must be offensive since he probably has no strong reason to claim it.
I'm sure only people who are close with us who has the possibility to tell us about addiction. Other people mustn't know our habit in gambling, they even don't know if we are a gambler. Grin

Well, if our close people tell us that we may be getting addiction, we must think positively that they care about us. So, we should evaluate our gambling habits and we must correct it if there is something wrong with our habits. We may gamble too often or use money excessively in gambling. I think these 2 things can be the main indicators that people assume we are getting addiction.

Like always we need to take into account the source of any information that we receive before we decide how to react, a person that does not know us does not really has the insight necessary about how we are and our regular behavior to make that kind of call, so you know that if a stranger tells you something like that then they are just trying to bother you.

However if a person that knows you very well tells you that then that is a red flag, as it is likely that they have noticed something wrong on your behavior and you should listen to them about the reasons why they think you have developed some gambling issues.

It is only our close ones that can say such words to us because they know so much about us. A stranger wouldn't know our habits and wouldn't be able to call us names. If someone close calls me an addict I will examine myself and look deep into my gambling activities so know why he said those words.

I will also call the person and ask him what made him called me a gamble addict to know if really I am one. If it is true,I will try my best to limit my gambling activities and make sure that he doesn't repeat such word again. It is our close ones that can tell us the truth of what we are doing.

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Quote from: piebeyb on July 07, 2023, 02:06:33 AM

Yes, it's also true that it's just jealousy in sharing time and positive criticism, maybe if we share time with family or friends maybe they won't say we are gambling addicts, even though we shouldn't be angry or offended by what people say to us somehow it's family or friends, for example I only gamble on weekends so I divide my time for work family, friends and gambling.

I limit the budget and limit the time I play gambling, for example 2 or 3 hours on weekends, the rest I spend with my family on weekends with my wife and children or occasionally go fishing with friends, while weekdays I am usually busy with work, so no it will also make me curious about losing to gambling, so I can't be called an addict because I divide my time fairly. Grin

Issue with sharing time/jealousy is a good point and something i didn't thought about. Mainly because i have sort of time blindness and concept is hard for me to grasp. I can do it only by using calendar but even then i lose track of time. But your point made me realize that while i have a weekly budget, i am not limiting my time using it on gambling, and i definitely should, because of all the things you listed and i have trouble sharing my time with my friends. So thanks for pointing that out. It might be obvious to most people but someone who has trouble with time it was less obvious.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on July 07, 2023, 01:16:34 AM

I take that as constructive criticism. Grin

People are very interesting.... let's take an example : You might enjoy gambling and you spend a few hours doing it, but your partner or friends might show very little interest in it. So they might be jealous or irritated, if you rather spend the time on gambling and not on them.

So, their reaction to your gambling will be negative and you need to deal with the distribution of your time to accommodate them. Do something with them and then tell them that you are going to take some time to relax on your own. There should be a balance in life and if you are spending too much time on gambling, then you will receive negative comments like that. Roll Eyes

Yes, it's also true that it's just jealousy in sharing time and positive criticism, maybe if we share time with family or friends maybe they won't say we are gambling addicts, even though we shouldn't be angry or offended by what people say to us somehow it's family or friends, for example I only gamble on weekends so I divide my time for work family, friends and gambling.

I limit the budget and limit the time I play gambling, for example 2 or 3 hours on weekends, the rest I spend with my family on weekends with my wife and children or occasionally go fishing with friends, while weekdays I am usually busy with work, so no it will also make me curious about losing to gambling, so I can't be called an addict because I divide my time fairly. Grin

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I take that as constructive criticism. Grin

People are very interesting.... let's take an example : You might enjoy gambling and you spend a few hours doing it, but your partner or friends might show very little interest in it. So they might be jealous or irritated, if you rather spend the time on gambling and not on them.

So, their reaction to your gambling will be negative and you need to deal with the distribution of your time to accommodate them. Do something with them and then tell them that you are going to take some time to relax on your own. There should be a balance in life and if you are spending too much time on gambling, then you will receive negative comments like that. Roll Eyes

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Depending on who is the one telling it, if it is my own close friend who know how I'm dealing with gambling, I wont feel offended but if it is coming from someone who I do not even know, I'll feel offended. Simply because how can someone we do not even know judge us for something that they do not even know the fact? Anyway, even if I feel offended but I will not argue them because it is their own right to say something about us, I'll just ask them "who are you?" Grin

Of course, if a stranger judges us an addict, we must be offensive since he probably has no strong reason to claim it.
I'm sure only people who are close with us who has the possibility to tell us about addiction. Other people mustn't know our habit in gambling, they even don't know if we are a gambler. Grin

Well, if our close people tell us that we may be getting addiction, we must think positively that they care about us. So, we should evaluate our gambling habits and we must correct it if there is something wrong with our habits. We may gamble too often or use money excessively in gambling. I think these 2 things can be the main indicators that people assume we are getting addiction.

Like always we need to take into account the source of any information that we receive before we decide how to react, a person that does not know us does not really has the insight necessary about how we are and our regular behavior to make that kind of call, so you know that if a stranger tells you something like that then they are just trying to bother you.

However if a person that knows you very well tells you that then that is a red flag, as it is likely that they have noticed something wrong on your behavior and you should listen to them about the reasons why they think you have developed some gambling issues.

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Quote from: milewilda on July 05, 2023, 04:15:35 PM

Better not to make yourself that too sensitive on what you do hear around so that you would really be able to avoid some possible discussions and argumentation or debate whether you are addicted or not. There are really
indeed people who would really be making out such debate and telling about their condition about on their gambling habits which we know that most addicted person would really be having that in state of denial. There's no point on making those kind of debates on someone who wouldn't really be listening after all.If you are that someone who do really engage on gambling, then it isnt really that that bad as long you do have that particular limit or border line then it should be fine. There are really just those people who do really love on touching up others lives and does really like to give out comment or whatsoever and seems like they are the ones who are
supplying their funds on playing gambling.lol

Personally, I won't debate about people's suggestion as long as it makes sense for me. Especially if they are my close people, I will try to understand the suggestion. I know they must care about me if they want to give suggestion about my condition. Whether it is true or not about addiction, I will evaluate my gambling habits. But if people who probably never know my gambling habits, I will ignore whatever the suggestion because they never know what I really do in my gambling habits.

Sure, there are many gamblers won't be aware if they are addiction. It is because they think they gamble in the right way and nothing wrong in their habits. But our close people may realize if we are getting close to addiction. So, if they tell us about it, try to not debate it but just evaluate our gambling habits. They may know something that we don't realize it.

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 04, 2023, 02:20:27 AM

Depending on who is the one telling it, if it is my own close friend who know how I'm dealing with gambling, I wont feel offended but if it is coming from someone who I do not even know, I'll feel offended. Simply because how can someone we do not even know judge us for something that they do not even know the fact? Anyway, even if I feel offended but I will not argue them because it is their own right to say something about us, I'll just ask them "who are you?" Grin

yes this actually depends on the nature of each individual, if it happened to me and my friends or people closest to me judge me a gambling addict i can explain well that i am not as bad as they think but if there are other people or people we don't know express a view the negative, in my opinion, we don't need to bother with what other people say about ourselves, why? because if we are offended and even angry at the views of people we don't even know, it will directly confirm that we are involved in gambling and it could be dangerous for us too because we don't know the intentions of people we don't know.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on July 05, 2023, 04:05:17 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on July 04, 2023, 02:20:27 AM

Depending on who is the one telling it, if it is my own close friend who know how I'm dealing with gambling, I wont feel offended but if it is coming from someone who I do not even know, I'll feel offended. Simply because how can someone we do not even know judge us for something that they do not even know the fact? Anyway, even if I feel offended but I will not argue them because it is their own right to say something about us, I'll just ask them "who are you?" Grin

Of course, if a stranger judges us an addict, we must be offensive since he probably has no strong reason to claim it.
I'm sure only people who are close with us who has the possibility to tell us about addiction. Other people mustn't know our habit in gambling, they even don't know if we are a gambler. Grin

Well, if our close people tell us that we may be getting addiction, we must think positively that they care about us. So, we should evaluate our gambling habits and we must correct it if there is something wrong with our habits. We may gamble too often or use money excessively in gambling. I think these 2 things can be the main indicators that people assume we are getting addiction.

Better not to make yourself that too sensitive on what you do hear around so that you would really be able to avoid some possible discussions and argumentation or debate whether you are addicted or not. There are really
indeed people who would really be making out such debate and telling about their condition about on their gambling habits which we know that most addicted person would really be having that in state of denial. There's no point on making those kind of debates on someone who wouldn't really be listening after all.If you are that someone who do really engage on gambling, then it isnt really that that bad as long you do have that particular limit or border line then it should be fine. There are really just those people who do really love on touching up others lives and does really like to give out comment or whatsoever and seems like they are the ones who are
supplying their funds on playing gambling.lol

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 04, 2023, 02:20:27 AM

Depending on who is the one telling it, if it is my own close friend who know how I'm dealing with gambling, I wont feel offended but if it is coming from someone who I do not even know, I'll feel offended. Simply because how can someone we do not even know judge us for something that they do not even know the fact? Anyway, even if I feel offended but I will not argue them because it is their own right to say something about us, I'll just ask them "who are you?" Grin

Of course, if a stranger judges us an addict, we must be offensive since he probably has no strong reason to claim it.
I'm sure only people who are close with us who has the possibility to tell us about addiction. Other people mustn't know our habit in gambling, they even don't know if we are a gambler. Grin

Well, if our close people tell us that we may be getting addiction, we must think positively that they care about us. So, we should evaluate our gambling habits and we must correct it if there is something wrong with our habits. We may gamble too often or use money excessively in gambling. I think these 2 things can be the main indicators that people assume we are getting addiction.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on June 18, 2023, 01:00:30 PM

Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

If I know deep inside that I'm addicted to gambling, I won't deny it if I'm referred by friends or family, I'll just accept it and I won't lie to them or myself about the habit. I'll work on getting myself out of this addiction slowly by seeking help and doing my best.

I feel that people who deny their gambling addiction will continue to deceive themselves and I'm certain that their behavior will worsen over time. It's not difficult to identify whether a gambler is addicted or not, but it's truly challenging and really hard to get out of it.

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Quote from: Fortify on July 05, 2023, 02:46:58 PM

Quote from: Queentoshi on June 18, 2023, 01:00:30 PM

Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

If you've gotten to the point where someone has called you out as being addicted to gambling, then you might want to sit up and listen. It's only something that someone who sees you regularly or who you share a lot of information with that will be likely to identify such a problem. If it's from someone random, maybe they're just projecting or you've not explained your situation adequately enough. However you should always be trying to learn and take assess new knowledge throughout life, sometimes we sleep walk into such a issues. It could be the wake up call that you need or that other people have been too scared or reluctant to highlight to you. Take a step back and think if you do need to change your ways.

When a person accepts they are a gambling addict right in front of their friends or family, it will alienate everyone around them. It's not easy to just admit it when all the time they portray themselves as a good model citizen yet the next day they hear something else. It takes time to sink in.

Even if it's true that a person is really a gambler and addicted to a degree, he will always lie to avoid prosecution by the judging public. It's offensive maybe but more importantly, they are protecting their integrity thats why its offensive.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on June 18, 2023, 01:00:30 PM

Many people find it difficult to accept who they are and the bad habits that they have, accepting a habit is the first step that will determine if any help offered to you will work. As a gambler, will you find it offensive if you are referred to as a gambling addict? will you easily accept it or try to give excuses like some other people do, saying that they are not addicted to gambling when the signs are clearly there. Do you think identifying as an addicted gambler will make people stereotype you. The answer is different for every gambler here.

If you've gotten to the point where someone has called you out as being addicted to gambling, then you might want to sit up and listen. It's only something that someone who sees you regularly or who you share a lot of information with that will be likely to identify such a problem. If it's from someone random, maybe they're just projecting or you've not explained your situation adequately enough. However you should always be trying to learn and take assess new knowledge throughout life, sometimes we sleep walk into such a issues. It could be the wake up call that you need or that other people have been too scared or reluctant to highlight to you. Take a step back and think if you do need to change your ways.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 03, 2023, 06:20:02 PM

If someone who is close to us or a friend circle referring me as a addicted gambler isn't a big issue. If a common man terms me a gambling addict then I won't find it good, because the person's view upon me will be different from what he had earlier.

That's understandable if it's coming from the people that we know, the people that recognize us but if someone speaks it randomly and you don't know him. It's offensive to hear that but they're just telling the truth based on what they can see with your activities.
Anyway, we have the option to react or not if they've pointed that out to us. So, being civilized and pretty good in hearing such feedbacks to us will really depend on how you'll take that opinion of theirs or not really an opinion but rather a reality that they see within yourself.

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