This topic is getting complex with time. This week the president gets a $2,000M pesos check and he say the money will be used to pay the 100 winning tickets... And this week he makes deals with business men to sell them $1,500M pesos in tickets (The half of the tickets).
So, since there is no clear where the money comes from and what will be used for, and since there will not be a presidential plane in the raffle, i will lock this thread.
Topic: Win a Presidential plane... (Read 2111 times)
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Yep, the debt still on:
Yep, the debt still on:
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However, Mendoza said the government still owes Banobras 2.7 billion pesos (US $143.7 million) for the purchase of the plane
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/presidential-dreamliner-remains-unsold/To be honest, now I'm completely lost with this story. If they needed money for hospitals and stuff, why didn't they sell the plane when there were actual buyers?
Even if they can get an actual buyer, they can't still determine if this will be sold as soon as they need to. Also, before they can sold this Presidential plane, they need to finish their debt first.
Its quite a shameful thing for this kind of revelation which they are tying to make money by using that plane lottery hype but totally covering up the main issue?
Wondering if people would able to trust this kind of lottery.
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Yep, the debt still on:
Yep, the debt still on:
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However, Mendoza said the government still owes Banobras 2.7 billion pesos (US $143.7 million) for the purchase of the plane
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/presidential-dreamliner-remains-unsold/To be honest, now I'm completely lost with this story. If they needed money for hospitals and stuff, why didn't they sell the plane when there were actual buyers?
Even if they can get an actual buyer, they can't still determine if this will be sold as soon as they need to. Also, before they can sold this Presidential plane, they need to finish their debt first.
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Yep, the debt still on:
Yep, the debt still on:
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However, Mendoza said the government still owes Banobras 2.7 billion pesos (US $143.7 million) for the purchase of the plane
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/presidential-dreamliner-remains-unsold/To be honest, now I'm completely lost with this story. If they needed money for hospitals and stuff, why didn't they sell the plane when there were actual buyers?
Since the plane was relocated to the United States, 42 potential buyers have been identified, 12 expressed interest in purchasing the plane and six made offers, two of which were above its estimated value, Mendoza said.
Could it be that they were planning the raffle already, the raffle with which they could get the money without giving out the plane?
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This is definitely problematic, if the government wanted to get rid of the plane the raffle made sense, it will be a weird prize but one that is incredibly valuable, but now the plane is not part of the raffle at all, they are going to keep it and while the prizes are good this is very different than what they promised at the beginning, it is not a scam in my eyes but it is definitely a huge change, did they explained why they want to keep the plane?
This is definitely problematic, if the government wanted to get rid of the plane the raffle made sense, it will be a weird prize but one that is incredibly valuable, but now the plane is not part of the raffle at all, they are going to keep it and while the prizes are good this is very different than what they promised at the beginning, it is not a scam in my eyes but it is definitely a huge change, did they explained why they want to keep the plane?
I agree with you, the totally chance the rules, the prize is totally different from what they promise from the start. They didn't explain why they will keep the plain, but some rumors are saying they get a demand from Boing saying they can't sell or raffle or do something with the plain until they finish the debt with them.
I am confused here, they are wanting to sell it while they have debt because of it, why not just give that plane back? I don't know how these works but his predecessor bought a plane in his pocket or the government's pocket? If he bought it in his own pocket why is he even allowing the government to use it as a presidential plane if it is his private plane? The president doesn't even want to ride it, he took normal flights.
Yes, as far as I know, they want to make fund for some government projects, the money that they will be collected will help them to build more infrastructure, build new programs and many more, also the president is the one who are going to sell this plane, so it is sure that this is true and it will be a win-win for the bettors and for the government of that country.
The idea was to invest some of the money in hospital equipment. But the numbers arent clear at all. In the end, the plain will not be sold, the loto prize will come from the sold tickets.Oh, they have debt? does the government already pay the plane to Boeing? in that case, I think they need to pay them first before make it as a raffle , for no more problems in the future.
Yep, the debt still on:
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However, Mendoza said the government still owes Banobras 2.7 billion pesos (US $143.7 million) for the purchase of the plane
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/presidential-dreamliner-remains-unsold/ This is definitely problematic, if the government wanted to get rid of the plane the raffle made sense, it will be a weird prize but one that is incredibly valuable, but now the plane is not part of the raffle at all, they are going to keep it and while the prizes are good this is very different than what they promised at the beginning, it is not a scam in my eyes but it is definitely a huge change, did they explained why they want to keep the plane?
Yes, as far as I know, they want to make fund for some government projects, the money that they will be collected will help them to build more infrastructure, build new programs and many more, also the president is the one who are going to sell this plane, so it is sure that this is true and it will be a win-win for the bettors and for the government of that country.
I agree with you, the totally chance the rules, the prize is totally different from what they promise from the start. They didn't explain why they will keep the plain, but some rumors are saying they get a demand from Boing saying they can't sell or raffle or do something with the plain until they finish the debt with them.
Oh, they have debt? does the government already pay the plane to Boeing? in that case, I think they need to pay them first before make it as a raffle , for no more problems in the future.
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This is definitely problematic, if the government wanted to get rid of the plane the raffle made sense, it will be a weird prize but one that is incredibly valuable, but now the plane is not part of the raffle at all, they are going to keep it and while the prizes are good this is very different than what they promised at the beginning, it is not a scam in my eyes but it is definitely a huge change, did they explained why they want to keep the plane?
This is definitely problematic, if the government wanted to get rid of the plane the raffle made sense, it will be a weird prize but one that is incredibly valuable, but now the plane is not part of the raffle at all, they are going to keep it and while the prizes are good this is very different than what they promised at the beginning, it is not a scam in my eyes but it is definitely a huge change, did they explained why they want to keep the plane?
I agree with you, the totally chance the rules, the prize is totally different from what they promise from the start. They didn't explain why they will keep the plain, but some rumors are saying they get a demand from Boing saying they can't sell or raffle or do something with the plain until they finish the debt with them.
Ok, today we have a huge update about the topic. The Mexican president decides to make for this a reality or kind of...
To explain this i will talk in Mexican Pesos, so, remember 1 dollar = 20 pesos.
Today AMLO (Mexican President) decide to make raffle and he doit public, but he changes the rules of the game:
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As you can see in the ticker, there will be 100 winners of $20,000,000 pesos. And there will be a total of 6,000,000 tickets $500 each ticket.
So, the total amount to get from this raffle is $3,000,000,000 Pesos, $2B will be to pay the 100 winners, and the other $1B will be for the plain maintenance in the next 2 years, hospital equipment and other stuff.
No one will win a presidential plane, only the value of the plain... For me, this sounds like a big scam. What do you think guys?
This is definitely problematic, if the government wanted to get rid of the plane the raffle made sense, it will be a weird prize but one that is incredibly valuable, but now the plane is not part of the raffle at all, they are going to keep it and while the prizes are good this is very different than what they promised at the beginning, it is not a scam in my eyes but it is definitely a huge change, did they explained why they want to keep the plane? To explain this i will talk in Mexican Pesos, so, remember 1 dollar = 20 pesos.
Today AMLO (Mexican President) decide to make raffle and he doit public, but he changes the rules of the game:
snip
As you can see in the ticker, there will be 100 winners of $20,000,000 pesos. And there will be a total of 6,000,000 tickets $500 each ticket.
So, the total amount to get from this raffle is $3,000,000,000 Pesos, $2B will be to pay the 100 winners, and the other $1B will be for the plain maintenance in the next 2 years, hospital equipment and other stuff.
No one will win a presidential plane, only the value of the plain... For me, this sounds like a big scam. What do you think guys?
As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
This is better.
A lot of arguments for that plane, let the Navy handle the rest of it. In terms of the lottery, I think the $100M is better than one plane. The fact that they will be dividing that to the 100 winners is also good for me. Comparing the prize of one presidential plane to $100M divided into 100 winners, the latter is so much better.
As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
This is better.
A lot of arguments for that plane, let the Navy handle the rest of it. In terms of the lottery, I think the $100M is better than one plane. The fact that they will be dividing that to the 100 winners is also good for me. Comparing the prize of one presidential plane to $100M divided into 100 winners, the latter is so much better.
Win planet or ticket i dont undrestand ,
I think you can sell it for a high price even though some people/ the government itself will offer that is almost very low compare to the plane itself. The plane cost is 130M$ I think Selling it for 10M-50M is not a bad price considering that you just win it for a 25$. Personally, If someone offer me 10M for that plane I will sell it right away as long all the tax is paid and I will get an exact 10M$, like it or hate it, it's a jackpot and it's a freaking Million Dollars, so yeah! it's not bad and I think I will participate in this kind of raffle or somehow lottery 
I just have some question in my mind, why does their country want to sell/raffle their presidential plane? If they are going to replace it then, good for them! But if not, that would be a huge loss for them, every country should have a presidential plane, and it's one of the needs of every president.
I just have some question in my mind, why does their country want to sell/raffle their presidential plane? If they are going to replace it then, good for them! But if not, that would be a huge loss for them, every country should have a presidential plane, and it's one of the needs of every president.
You can accept if people/the government offers to repurchase the plane before the two years free service is gone, so we don't have to think about the high cost for the service. Selling for $10M still huge money, and with that money, you can buy many things
Perhaps, they want to get money for the country, so they make that lottery, and if someone from their country wins that plane, they can buy the plane at the cheap price. They offer 2 years of free service so people who win that plane can enjoy for that plane, and perhaps, they can travel to another place before they sell the plane.
But finally, we have an update.
Yes, I think that sounds a scam because they change the rule, but it makes sense if they give the plane value to the winner. But we don't know the real info behind that lottery. All in all, the government still got a lot of money from that lottery.
Rent the plane will be a good idea from the government because that can give a chance for their people to feel how to travel to another place with the presidential plane.
Ok, today we have a huge update about the topic. The Mexican president decides to make for this a reality or kind of...
To explain this i will talk in Mexican Pesos, so, remember 1 dollar = 20 pesos.
Today AMLO (Mexican President) decide to make raffle and he doit public, but he changes the rules of the game:
As you can see in the ticker, there will be 100 winners of $20,000,000 pesos. And there will be a total of 6,000,000 tickets $500 each ticket.
So, the total amount to get from this raffle is $3,000,000,000 Pesos, $2B will be to pay the 100 winners, and the other $1B will be for the plain maintenance in the next 2 years, hospital equipment and other stuff.
No one will win a presidential plane, only the value of the plain... For me, this sounds like a big scam. What do you think guys?
Yes as its sounds a money making for them. I have no doubt people will still try their luck and will buy a raffle ticket, The good thing is 100 people will be the winner which looks like a good odds for the people to be convinced.To explain this i will talk in Mexican Pesos, so, remember 1 dollar = 20 pesos.
Today AMLO (Mexican President) decide to make raffle and he doit public, but he changes the rules of the game:
As you can see in the ticker, there will be 100 winners of $20,000,000 pesos. And there will be a total of 6,000,000 tickets $500 each ticket.
So, the total amount to get from this raffle is $3,000,000,000 Pesos, $2B will be to pay the 100 winners, and the other $1B will be for the plain maintenance in the next 2 years, hospital equipment and other stuff.
No one will win a presidential plane, only the value of the plain... For me, this sounds like a big scam. What do you think guys?
I will not going to buy a ticket anymore also the price marks up
As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
As the article say, and as i explain, the plain will not be the prize. People will win the value of the plain.
As the article says the prize of this lottery will be divided into 100 winners. The actual prize pot of the lottery will be $100M which is not the actual price or value of the presidential plane. It is also stated the Navy will be holding the plane.
but they shouldnt hope that they would totally sell out 6m tickets which totally cost of $150M. .. 50M usd for maintenance isnt justifiable.
As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
As the article say, and as i explain, the plain will not be the prize. People will win the value of the plain.
As the article says the prize of this lottery will be divided into 100 winners. The actual prize pot of the lottery will be $100M which is not the actual price or value of the presidential plane. It is also stated the Navy will be holding the plane.
100 winners = 1 Plane... LoL
Can't help myself from laughing.
As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
As the article say, and as i explain, the plain will not be the prize. People will win the value of the plain.
As the article says the prize of this lottery will be divided into 100 winners. The actual prize pot of the lottery will be $100M which is not the actual price or value of the presidential plane. It is also stated the Navy will be holding the plane.
A little bit confusing due to that Mexican dollar conversions but as far as i understand
6M tickets would be sold out $500 each or this one is on mexican peso?
Good thing that they would give out or do having 100 winners but some question is that whose gonna own the plane?
or would still be on the posession of the government and do only ask out some have part of 1B peso in the lottery?
It do really sounds scam after all.
6M tickets would be sold out $500 each or this one is on mexican peso?
Good thing that they would give out or do having 100 winners but some question is that whose gonna own the plane?
or would still be on the posession of the government and do only ask out some have part of 1B peso in the lottery?
It do really sounds scam after all.
6M tickets at $500 pesos each one, that's $25 dollars each ticket who can win a max of 20M pesos (That's 1M dollars each winner ticket.)
The plane will stay in hands of gov. an they will rent it, that's the idea.
As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
As the article say, and as i explain, the plain will not be the prize. People will win the value of the plain.
As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle
Ok, today we have a huge update about the topic. The Mexican president decides to make for this a reality or kind of...
To explain this i will talk in Mexican Pesos, so, remember 1 dollar = 20 pesos.
Today AMLO (Mexican President) decide to make raffle and he doit public, but he changes the rules of the game:
As you can see in the ticker, there will be 100 winners of $20,000,000 pesos. And there will be a total of 6,000,000 tickets $500 each ticket.
So, the total amount to get from this raffle is $3,000,000,000 Pesos, $2B will be to pay the 100 winners, and the other $1B will be for the plain maintenance in the next 2 years, hospital equipment and other stuff.
No one will win a presidential plane, only the value of the plain... For me, this sounds like a big scam. What do you think guys?
To explain this i will talk in Mexican Pesos, so, remember 1 dollar = 20 pesos.
Today AMLO (Mexican President) decide to make raffle and he doit public, but he changes the rules of the game:
As you can see in the ticker, there will be 100 winners of $20,000,000 pesos. And there will be a total of 6,000,000 tickets $500 each ticket.
So, the total amount to get from this raffle is $3,000,000,000 Pesos, $2B will be to pay the 100 winners, and the other $1B will be for the plain maintenance in the next 2 years, hospital equipment and other stuff.
No one will win a presidential plane, only the value of the plain... For me, this sounds like a big scam. What do you think guys?
A little bit confusing due to that Mexican dollar conversions but as far as i understand
6M tickets would be sold out $500 each or this one is on mexican peso?
Good thing that they would give out or do having 100 winners but some question is that whose gonna own the plane?
or would still be on the posession of the government and do only ask out some have part of 1B peso in the lottery?
It do really sounds scam after all.
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