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Quote from: jostorres on October 10, 2019, 12:02:06 PM

Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.

Well, how many place has managed to get 200+ million bets in less than a year, Windice will be one of the first ever (not counting stake because they had 6 years of primedice worth of marketing).

There could be 50 people online, 100 people online, 200+ people online and it wouldn't matter, what type of bankroll those players have is the real question, people do not come to casinos and spend days and days every single day, they come here gamble for few hours, lose their money and go, casinos needs to keep finding new players plus try to make old players come back, hence the importance is not the live number but total bankroll gambled at that moment.

I wonder which casinos you are talking about that has no information about online users. The in our signature has this information as well, so why it should be hidden while there is nothing wrong with it. I have to agree that this number does not represent the actual active players who are playing with their money (deposit). The number of wagered amount on the site is indeed more important than the online user stats but it does not mean that it should be hidden.

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Quote from: jostorres on October 10, 2019, 12:02:06 PM

Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.

Wolf.bet, Bitsler and Primedice are three of gambling websites that show total number of online users. I am sure there are many other gambling websites that show this number.
You are right the bankroll of users does matter, But we cannot ignore that total number of online users is a parameter which show how much a website is popular.
In my opinion, it's not real problem if a webisite doesn't show this number. But I think showing that is better. Any data about a website is helpful.

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Quote from: Lakai01 on October 11, 2019, 03:50:16 AM

Quote from: jostorres on October 10, 2019, 12:02:06 PM

Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.

Bustadice even has a separate statistics site where you can see a lot of interesting data about the site itself and of course shows the count of currently online users, too.

But you are right, this means nothing. If a site has only 10 players online but those guys are wales and gamble with 10 btc per roll the bankroll is way higher than if the site has 1k users online who play with one sat for example.

This may help to promote its transparency but to think also that not all the time a person/gambler been online always unless they use bots.
We know it was encouraging to look at when a lot of players get online which we could believe that this site is actually working great and apparently it was a big deal for us.
If they hide it, some bad/negative speculations may rise and it leads to some misleading information.

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Quote from: jostorres on October 10, 2019, 12:02:06 PM

Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.

Bustadice even has a separate statistics site where you can see a lot of interesting data about the site itself and of course shows the count of currently online users, too.

But you are right, this means nothing. If a site has only 10 players online but those guys are wales and gamble with 10 btc per roll the bankroll is way higher than if the site has 1k users online who play with one sat for example.

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Quote from: jostorres on October 10, 2019, 12:02:06 PM

Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.

Well, how many place has managed to get 200+ million bets in less than a year, Windice will be one of the first ever (not counting stake because they had 6 years of primedice worth of marketing).

There could be 50 people online, 100 people online, 200+ people online and it wouldn't matter, what type of bankroll those players have is the real question, people do not come to casinos and spend days and days every single day, they come here gamble for few hours, lose their money and go, casinos needs to keep finding new players plus try to make old players come back, hence the importance is not the live number but total bankroll gambled at that moment.

Do you have statistical data that shows standard scale of total number online called bit or tons? Those players online shouldn't do some activity like type chitchat to prove it, they online as they want.
Credibility is not only measured by bankroll, how about older casino with big bankroll cause a many years ago bitcoins was 100$? Any data how many's online at leats proving that site or casino not death.

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Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.

Well, how many place has managed to get 200+ million bets in less than a year, Windice will be one of the first ever (not counting stake because they had 6 years of primedice worth of marketing).

There could be 50 people online, 100 people online, 200+ people online and it wouldn't matter, what type of bankroll those players have is the real question, people do not come to casinos and spend days and days every single day, they come here gamble for few hours, lose their money and go, casinos needs to keep finding new players plus try to make old players come back, hence the importance is not the live number but total bankroll gambled at that moment.

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How the bets are shown in livestats is neither a problem nor a bug. I think that's working how Windice want.
You are able to see your balance changes in a digram every time you want. That's why the refresh button has created.
Note that all of your bets are shown on "History". "Livestats" has been created for another purpose.

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Quote from: Bitinity on October 10, 2019, 05:32:43 AM

Quote from: ahmadakbari on October 10, 2019, 05:21:48 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on October 10, 2019, 04:36:27 AM

I've noticed a minor bug regarding Live Stats on WinDice. It's not happening all the time, but almost.

When you login to the site and start playing without checking Live Stats, and then check after making some bets, it shows zero stats on everything (but after you checked it, it starts working fine).

It's not a bug. That's normal.
When you click on stats button, recording of your bets starts. As you see there is a "refresh" button to delete previous bets. The stats are created so you can start recording and refresh it at any time.

Imho what he want to say is that the live stats should start whenever players starts betting without clicking the stats button. I just tried and the live stats button starts counting when I click it. It happens anytime I just logged in (doing bet for the first time after log in), the live stats works normally after we click it or refresh it. So I also think that it is a minor bug, as this live stats should start anytime no matter players has just logged in or not.

Well that's what @Betwrong means, this is indeed a small mistake on livestats in windice. It looks like they don't provide realtime data on livestats so every player has to refresh after betting to see statistics. In my opinion this is not a significant problem, it's just that livestats are not automatically updated or are made intentionally like that, it's just a matter of a little javascript code in that section.

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Quote from: ahmadakbari on October 10, 2019, 05:21:48 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on October 10, 2019, 04:36:27 AM

I've noticed a minor bug regarding Live Stats on WinDice. It's not happening all the time, but almost.

When you login to the site and start playing without checking Live Stats, and then check after making some bets, it shows zero stats on everything (but after you checked it, it starts working fine).

It's not a bug. That's normal.
When you click on stats button, recording of your bets starts. As you see there is a "refresh" button to delete previous bets. The stats are created so you can start recording and refresh it at any time.

Imho what he want to say is that the live stats should start whenever players starts betting without clicking the stats button. I just tried and the live stats button starts counting when I click it. It happens anytime I just logged in (doing bet for the first time after log in), the live stats works normally after we click it or refresh it. So I also think that it is a minor bug, as this live stats should start anytime no matter players has just logged in or not.

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Quote from: Betwrong on October 10, 2019, 04:36:27 AM

I've noticed a minor bug regarding Live Stats on WinDice. It's not happening all the time, but almost.

When you login to the site and start playing without checking Live Stats, and then check after making some bets, it shows zero stats on everything (but after you checked it, it starts working fine).

It's not a bug. That's normal.
When you click on stats button, recording of your bets starts. As you see there is a "refresh" button to delete previous bets. The stats are created so you can start recording and refresh it at any time.

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Quote from: Lakai01 on October 09, 2019, 10:57:43 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on October 09, 2019, 06:25:47 AM

The number of players online has dropped significantly from around 300 during the contest to 160 right now. Run wagering contests more frequently, guys, especially if they are not unprofitable for you.

The number of total players online currently varies widely, yesterday in the morning it was about 220 people, currently its 116. Doesn't really matter in my opinion as long at this number is overall climbing, which definitely is the case. We should take a look at those numbers at the weekend, when usually most of the players are online.

That's right, the number of players online varies (it is 150 currently), and it can be greater on the weekend than it is currently, but I have a feeling that it won't be anywhere around 300, if there is no contest.

I've noticed a minor bug regarding Live Stats on WinDice. It's not happening all the time, but almost.

When you login to the site and start playing without checking Live Stats, and then check after making some bets, it shows zero stats on everything (but after you checked it, it starts working fine).

Here's an example from my today's playing. After several tries I rolled 7532, and won 44 DOGE,

but when I checked the Live Stats, here's what I saw:

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Quote from: Betwrong on October 09, 2019, 06:25:47 AM

The number of players online has dropped significantly from around 300 during the contest to 160 right now. Run wagering contests more frequently, guys, especially if they are not unprofitable for you.

The number of total players online currently varies widely, yesterday in the morning it was about 220 people, currently its 116. Doesn't really matter in my opinion as long at this number is overall climbing, which definitely is the case. We should take a look at those numbers at the weekend, when usually most of the players are online.

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Quote from: dunfida on October 09, 2019, 03:03:59 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on October 09, 2019, 06:25:47 AM

The number of players online has dropped significantly from around 300 during the contest to 160 right now. Run wagering contests more frequently, guys, especially if they are not unprofitable for you.

So far they havent announced yet their 3 day wagering contest and also dropping the number of players is just normal yet most participants do only eye out
when theres some contest or events that is happening not only to this site but in all sites that do had it. Windice team is somewhat really active when it comes to
promotion and they should add up in addition to that wagering contest.

Windice is doing good for promotions but still its very long way for them to be good in this market as we have already some big sharks and they have too many big players here just one is crying for unprofitable or profitable its not make any sense because its all on your own if you feel not good then surely you need to leave them.

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Quote from: Betwrong on October 09, 2019, 06:25:47 AM

The number of players online has dropped significantly from around 300 during the contest to 160 right now. Run wagering contests more frequently, guys, especially if they are not unprofitable for you.

So far they havent announced yet their 3 day wagering contest and also dropping the number of players is just normal yet most participants do only eye out
when theres some contest or events that is happening not only to this site but in all sites that do had it. Windice team is somewhat really active when it comes to
promotion and they should add up in addition to that wagering contest.

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Quote from: ahmadakbari on October 08, 2019, 10:09:40 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on October 08, 2019, 03:46:19 AM

But I understand why you are confused. It is written above the table of the latest contest: "FROM: 26 Sep 2019 03:00 GMT+03:00 TO: 29 Sep 2019 03:00 GMT+03:00". I think this is a mistake.

I think the dates shown in the website are correct. The lastest contest held from October 2 to October 5.
Here is the post made by windice on October 6 just after the contest was over.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52666583

Then it's my bad, I'm sorry. I was judging from the words by yoloer808, who said after the second contest was finished:

Quote from: yoloer808 on October 07, 2019, 02:42:16 AM

~
My overall winnings are quite volatile. The last contest cost me a quite a bit of money, this one was slightly profitable. ~

Since he wagered 10 BTC in one contest and 5 BTC in another one, I thought the contest where he wagered 5 BTC was more profitable for him. It turns out that he was much more lucky during the latest contest, if it was more profitable for him while he wagered 2 times more BTC.

The number of players online has dropped significantly from around 300 during the contest to 160 right now. Run wagering contests more frequently, guys, especially if they are not unprofitable for you.

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Quote from: ahmadakbari on October 08, 2019, 01:15:47 PM

Quote from: bitgolden on October 08, 2019, 11:55:59 AM

You are calculating the overall expected loss but people do not gamble automatically like a robot and get exactly 1% loss on their bets, that is for house to make a profit with thousands of people on millions of bets, not one guy betting to become most wagered..

I never said anyone who gambles will finally lose exactly 1% of the amount he wagers. There are some people make profit and there are some lose more than 1%. But as the house edge is 1%, losing 1% of the wagered amount is likely to happen in long term and also users will loss 1% on average.

You are right, that's pure statistics. Lets say you have a dice and roll it, chances are 1/6 that you roll a "1", also chances are 1/6 that you roll a "2" and so forth. So, statistically if you roll 6 times you may have rolled 1 x 1, 1 x 2, 1 x 3, ... I am definitely sure almost no one manages to roll all 6 numbers with just 6 rolls -> this is our guy who doesn't lose the 1% house edge.
But if you keep on rolling lets say 600 times chances are very high that you have rolled a 6 as often as a 1 (with just minor differences). This leads to the conclusion that the longer you play, the more likely it is that the house edge comes into play and you lose 1% of your total wagered amount.

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Quote from: ahmadakbari on October 08, 2019, 01:15:47 PM

Quote from: bitgolden on October 08, 2019, 11:55:59 AM

You are calculating the overall expected loss but people do not gamble automatically like a robot and get exactly 1% loss on their bets, that is for house to make a profit with thousands of people on millions of bets, not one guy betting to become most wagered..

I never said anyone who gambles will finally lose exactly 1% of the amount he wagers. There are some people make profit and there are some lose more than 1%. But as the house edge is 1%, losing 1% of the wagered amount is likely to happen in long term and also users will loss 1% on average.

There is no lose for 1% but lose on chance of winning 1%. It's enough fair to being paying 1% as fee of administrator of system who's working behind.
We assuming that as do bet vs investor or may player-to-player through table of casino then we pay of cashier.

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@betwrong, it seems that you are the one wrong, the latest one had top three that had 10.02, 6.34 and 5.08. Just go to windice.io , tap on the "contest" on the upside of the screen, it is right near the "stats" page, when it opens click the "2", that means it is the second contest, you are talking about the first contest. First contests top 3 was like you mentioned, the latest was the 10 btc top 1 one. There is a ton of money involved this time around and it shows for sure this contest is a great idea.

I don't know how long yoloer will be capable of continuing this because it is gambling and eventually he may lose a ton of money while trying to win and he may get cold feet after that, but until then we are going to just have bunch of people trying to overthrow yoloer from the top spot.

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Quote from: bitgolden on October 08, 2019, 11:55:59 AM

You are calculating the overall expected loss but people do not gamble automatically like a robot and get exactly 1% loss on their bets, that is for house to make a profit with thousands of people on millions of bets, not one guy betting to become most wagered..

I never said anyone who gambles will finally lose exactly 1% of the amount he wagers. There are some people make profit and there are some lose more than 1%. But as the house edge is 1%, losing 1% of the wagered amount is likely to happen in long term and also users will loss 1% on average.

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Quote from: ahmadakbari on October 07, 2019, 07:09:28 AM

Quote from: Lakai01 on October 07, 2019, 05:49:01 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on October 07, 2019, 03:15:35 AM

while I can't say the same about the guy who took the 50th place, and, actually, about anyone not belonging to the top 3. Starting from the 4th place, the prize is less than 1% of the wagered amount, so it's possible that those guys lost more in the process than the prize they received. But let's hear from them though.

That is definitly true, users from 4th to 50th place won't have made any money this time (statistically of course). Would be very nice if someone eg. from the top 10 could post statistics about what he spent and what he earned (price and winnings)

Not only 4th to 50th places, but the prize is lower than 1% of the amount wagered for first three places too.
They have wagered 10.02, 6.43 and 5.08 BTC and won 0.1, 0.05 and 0.03 respectively.

You are calculating the overall expected loss but people do not gamble automatically like a robot and get exactly 1% loss on their bets, that is for house to make a profit with thousands of people on millions of bets, not one guy betting to become most wagered.

Yoloer could have bet 10 btc all at once and lost it all at once as well (or won double) and that wouldn't be 1%, he definitely didn't do something like that but he could have done something like that and 1% wouldn't matter. Hence, when you are calculating expected loss of one person you are definitely doing it wrong if you calculate just 1%, it all depends on how they wagered.

However, if he says he lost a bit on first one and made some on the second one than it means dude plays smartly without putting too much risk.

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