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Quote from: dzungmobile on December 19, 2024, 07:41:11 AM

Quote from: Jating on December 19, 2024, 02:29:17 AM

Yes, by concept and it paper, it's really looks easy to implement. But behind, this swap feature might be complicated as we think about it. And so gonna be hard for them to execute and carry out. And then they will have to test it if there are problems or issues. And here we are just talking about the coding and development side.

And if we include those coins involved, then they have to factors as well the liquidity. And if they are just starting up, they could have issues with it as we all know that there are competitions amongst this casino. So very hard for startup, but make sense for those who have brand name and reputation already as their liquidity, i.e. cash reserves + cash flow.

Nothing is easy to deploy, and easy things are only in thinking that sometimes are unrealistic and impossible for deployments as well as executions. Cheesy

Wolf.bet is no longer a start up, because this company has a long history, since July 2019. It's already more than 5 years of existence, and it has been expanding with more products over past five years.

Wolf.bet team shown that they're open-minded and ready to listen to community voice and demand, so that they will put these community requests in their consideration for to-do list, and will do it for users if they see fit for benefit of the company and users. With this opened approach, they will not stop here but will surely continue their product and business expansions.

Of course nothing is easy to deploy, they have to make it sure from the start that they are making the right code or even hiring the right person to developed it from them in the background. But it is still business at the end of the day.

They could make it and then what? can it make profit for them? because again it's the question of liquidity and how many gamblers are going to used it or even try? So here we can say that it's easy to implement, although it make take some time and viable, but again, it is worth the try to do that or not in their perspective as business owners? But let's see, as far as I know only few casinos have this feature and who knows, this could be the next trend.

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Quote from: Jating on December 19, 2024, 02:29:17 AM

Yes, by concept and it paper, it's really looks easy to implement. But behind, this swap feature might be complicated as we think about it. And so gonna be hard for them to execute and carry out. And then they will have to test it if there are problems or issues. And here we are just talking about the coding and development side.

And if we include those coins involved, then they have to factors as well the liquidity. And if they are just starting up, they could have issues with it as we all know that there are competitions amongst this casino. So very hard for startup, but make sense for those who have brand name and reputation already as their liquidity, i.e. cash reserves + cash flow.

It's actually easy to talk with development, coding and additional features but it's not that easy to execute. While if they have budget on it, they should have deployed it long time ago or if it's part of their road map that has a date that shall be done. There is so much complexity on it while some that are not impress with that feature will criticize the design but not about the technical background that it has for it to run smoothly. Well, zwei is right, there's so much more to it.

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Quote from: Jating on December 19, 2024, 02:29:17 AM

Yes, by concept and it paper, it's really looks easy to implement. But behind, this swap feature might be complicated as we think about it. And so gonna be hard for them to execute and carry out. And then they will have to test it if there are problems or issues. And here we are just talking about the coding and development side.

And if we include those coins involved, then they have to factors as well the liquidity. And if they are just starting up, they could have issues with it as we all know that there are competitions amongst this casino. So very hard for startup, but make sense for those who have brand name and reputation already as their liquidity, i.e. cash reserves + cash flow.

Nothing is easy to deploy, and easy things are only in thinking that sometimes are unrealistic and impossible for deployments as well as executions. Cheesy

Wolf.bet is no longer a start up, because this company has a long history, since July 2019. It's already more than 5 years of existence, and it has been expanding with more products over past five years.

Wolf.bet team shown that they're open-minded and ready to listen to community voice and demand, so that they will put these community requests in their consideration for to-do list, and will do it for users if they see fit for benefit of the company and users. With this opened approach, they will not stop here but will surely continue their product and business expansions.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on December 18, 2024, 01:07:00 PM

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First and most important, it's because of AML. They don't want to be unwanted engaged with money laundering activities from users.

Next and maybe not last, like you said, they don't want to be in hassle with price volatility of different coins, and even Oracle can have bugs, failures so it is a risk factor for their casino treasury or at least their hot wallets that can be drained out by hackers if Oracle doesn't work properly.

You seem to be very confident in your words... but then how did other casinos that have a swap option handle it? Today in many casinos we have to wager x1 deposit, and in some even more. This is how casinos comply with AML rules, exchanging coins from one to another doesn't have anything with AML. Basically, you can't deposit one coin, exchange it for another, and withdraw it... you need to wager.

i agree with @iv4n on this one. AML have nothing to with this. the reason why not all casinos have a swap feature is because it's not as simple to add as you may think.
for small casinos at least, managing liquidity for multiple coins + the house bankroll adds complexity, costs, and dev hours that could be spent on better features to grow the brand. all that makes the small revenue from the swap fees not worth it from a business point of view.

it only makes sense for big brands, as they have larger deposit/withdrawal volumes.

Yes, by concept and it paper, it's really looks easy to implement. But behind, this swap feature might be complicated as we think about it. And so gonna be hard for them to execute and carry out. And then they will have to test it if there are problems or issues. And here we are just talking about the coding and development side.

And if we include those coins involved, then they have to factors as well the liquidity. And if they are just starting up, they could have issues with it as we all know that there are competitions amongst this casino. So very hard for startup, but make sense for those who have brand name and reputation already as their liquidity, i.e. cash reserves + cash flow.

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Quote from: iv4n on December 18, 2024, 03:43:08 PM

Quote from: dzungmobile on December 18, 2024, 01:07:00 PM

Quote from: iv4n on December 18, 2024, 09:33:44 AM

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First and most important, it's because of AML. They don't want to be unwanted engaged with money laundering activities from users.

Next and maybe not last, like you said, they don't want to be in hassle with price volatility of different coins, and even Oracle can have bugs, failures so it is a risk factor for their casino treasury or at least their hot wallets that can be drained out by hackers if Oracle doesn't work properly.

You seem to be very confident in your words... but then how did other casinos that have a swap option handle it? Today in many casinos we have to wager x1 deposit, and in some even more. This is how casinos comply with AML rules, exchanging coins from one to another doesn't have anything with AML. Basically, you can't deposit one coin, exchange it for another, and withdraw it... you need to wager.

i agree with @iv4n on this one. AML have nothing to with this. the reason why not all casinos have a swap feature is because it's not as simple to add as you may think.
for small casinos at least, managing liquidity for multiple coins + the house bankroll adds complexity, costs, and dev hours that could be spent on better features to grow the brand. all that makes the small revenue from the swap fees not worth it from a business point of view.

it only makes sense for big brands, as they have larger deposit/withdrawal volumes.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on December 18, 2024, 01:07:00 PM

Quote from: iv4n on December 18, 2024, 09:33:44 AM

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First and most important, it's because of AML. They don't want to be unwanted engaged with money laundering activities from users.

Next and maybe not last, like you said, they don't want to be in hassle with price volatility of different coins, and even Oracle can have bugs, failures so it is a risk factor for their casino treasury or at least their hot wallets that can be drained out by hackers if Oracle doesn't work properly.

You seem to be very confident in your words... but then how did other casinos that have a swap option handle it? Today in many casinos we have to wager x1 deposit, and in some even more. This is how casinos comply with AML rules, exchanging coins from one to another doesn't have anything with AML. Basically, you can't deposit one coin, exchange it for another, and withdraw it... you need to wager.

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Quote from: iv4n on December 18, 2024, 09:33:44 AM

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Very few casinos have swap or conversion features.

I know, I have experience with most of them... The point is that they exist and that it is possible.

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Quote from: iv4n on December 18, 2024, 09:33:44 AM

Why do most gambling sites are against this style of deposit and withdrawal with different coins?

Maybe that has something with AML policy, maybe not... but I guess that would be a hassle for casinos. It would be complicated for the casino to keep track of all the price changes for the different coins. Maybe if every deposit was immediately converted into a stable currency, and then converted into the desired currency when we ask for withdrawal. From my experience, casinos that convert every deposit into stable currency also allow withdrawals in the coin we deposited, some of them only to the address from which the payment was made.

First and most important, it's because of AML. They don't want to be unwanted engaged with money laundering activities from users.

Next and maybe not last, like you said, they don't want to be in hassle with price volatility of different coins, and even Oracle can have bugs, failures so it is a risk factor for their casino treasury or at least their hot wallets that can be drained out by hackers if Oracle doesn't work properly.

Quote from: iv4n on December 18, 2024, 09:33:44 AM

Some crypto casinos have swap feature, don't forget you will have to pay some fee when you use swap option, but at least you will be able to deposit any coin/token and swap it for another at any point and later withdraw if you wish.

Very few casinos have swap or conversion features.

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Quote from: tranthidung on December 17, 2024, 06:19:44 AM

Quote from: naira on December 17, 2024, 03:19:51 AM

At least the more you provide many deposit options the better for profit and some big casinos have also implemented the system first. As long as the meme coin that is registered has a community and high market capitalization it is the right decision. Moreover $PEPE is one of the meme coins that ranks 3rd on CMC after Doge and Shiba Inu.

Listing is easy but there is another thing that is bigger and more important.

After listing a token for Wolfbet users to deposit, bet and in the end, they will need to withdraw money if they want. Do you start to see issue here?
Wolfbet team will have their fund partially in that token, to make sure that they will pay users if they win big and withdraw big amount in that token too.

It's different than exchanges, you deposit, trade and withdraw, that's it. With casinos, users are mostly allowed to withdraw in the same token they deposit for bet. If there is no conversion feature on the casino, there is no other way.

You are right but there is always a way casinos can go about this and they won't have to put their money in the token..

First off, it is absurd for the management of a casino to list a token they do not trust on that casino for their users to deposit and withdraw from, the management of all casinos are expected to have done a proper research and accessment of a project, and it's accompanying token before coming to that concrete decision of listing the token, that is, before they list a token, the management should be sure it's a token they themselves can happily and without any form of doubt or fear in their Hearts; invest in.

Secondly, casinos usually have a lot of users, and when they open deposit and withdrawal for a token, it's likely that a good percentage of their users will be depositing in that token, and not all of this users will ask withdrawal at the same time.
So, if incase a gambler win huge and he's been paid with the token, the casino can process the payment using other users funds in same token, after all, most of this users will lose that token to the casino in the end.

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Quote from: tranthidung on December 18, 2024, 09:10:54 AM

I did not have an account on Wolf.bet so I don't know how they allow users to deposit and withdrawal. On some gambling platforms, if you deposit BTC, you will be allowed to withdraw in BTC, not with other coins.

It's what I implied in my post, but it's general thinking from me. It can be inaccurate, and if you have an account on Wolf.bet, use this platform, you can share your experience. For example, you deposit in BTC, bet and withdraw later in ETH, if it is possible, your confirmation makes sense.

Why do most gambling sites are against this style of deposit and withdrawal with different coins?
It's their AML process, to avoid people using their platforms like mixers.

You deposit, play with, and withdraw the same coin. So you can't deposit one coin and withdraw other coins... that's how it is in most crypto casinos.
Some crypto casinos have swap feature, don't forget you will have to pay some fee when you use swap option, but at least you will be able to deposit any coin/token and swap it for another at any point and later withdraw if you wish.

Why do most gambling sites are against this style of deposit and withdrawal with different coins?

Maybe that has something with AML policy, maybe not... but I guess that would be a hassle for casinos. It would be complicated for the casino to keep track of all the price changes for the different coins. Maybe if every deposit was immediately converted into a stable currency, and then converted into the desired currency when we ask for withdrawal. From my experience, casinos that convert every deposit into stable currency also allow withdrawals in the coin we deposited, some of them only to the address from which the payment was made.

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Quote from: Salahmu on December 18, 2024, 04:52:38 AM

Actually is not going to be an issue because the option is not compulsory that every users will go through deposit with any crypto, so is actually optional and if withdrawing with money is what you would prefer you can also deposit using a method that would enable you withdraw with money, so actually the idea of the team is to make those options available to users because in as much as you would want money in withdrawal there are also many others whose their best choice of deposit and withdraw are crypto, however if you withdraw a crypto you can still convert it on a normal exchange without any difficulties.

I did not have an account on Wolf.bet so I don't know how they allow users to deposit and withdrawal. On some gambling platforms, if you deposit BTC, you will be allowed to withdraw in BTC, not with other coins.

It's what I implied in my post, but it's general thinking from me. It can be inaccurate, and if you have an account on Wolf.bet, use this platform, you can share your experience. For example, you deposit in BTC, bet and withdraw later in ETH, if it is possible, your confirmation makes sense.

Why do most gambling sites are against this style of deposit and withdrawal with different coins?
It's their AML process, to avoid people using their platforms like mixers.

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Quote from: tranthidung on December 17, 2024, 06:19:44 AM

Quote from: naira on December 17, 2024, 03:19:51 AM

At least the more you provide many deposit options the better for profit and some big casinos have also implemented the system first. As long as the meme coin that is registered has a community and high market capitalization it is the right decision. Moreover $PEPE is one of the meme coins that ranks 3rd on CMC after Doge and Shiba Inu.

Listing is easy but there is another thing that is bigger and more important.

After listing a token for Wolfbet users to deposit, bet and in the end, they will need to withdraw money if they want. Do you start to see issue here?
Wolfbet team will have their fund partially in that token, to make sure that they will pay users if they win big and withdraw big amount in that token too.

It's different than exchanges, you deposit, trade and withdraw, that's it. With casinos, users are mostly allowed to withdraw in the same token they deposit for bet. If there is no conversion feature on the casino, there is no other way.

Actually is not going to be an issue because the option is not compulsory that every users will go through deposit with any crypto, so is actually optional and if withdrawing with money is what you would prefer you can also deposit using a method that would enable you withdraw with money, so actually the idea of the team is to make those options available to users because in as much as you would want money in withdrawal there are also many others whose their best choice of deposit and withdraw are crypto, however if you withdraw a crypto you can still convert it on a normal exchange without any difficulties.

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Quote from: naira on December 17, 2024, 03:19:51 AM

At least the more you provide many deposit options the better for profit and some big casinos have also implemented the system first. As long as the meme coin that is registered has a community and high market capitalization it is the right decision. Moreover $PEPE is one of the meme coins that ranks 3rd on CMC after Doge and Shiba Inu.

Listing is easy but there is another thing that is bigger and more important.

After listing a token for Wolfbet users to deposit, bet and in the end, they will need to withdraw money if they want. Do you start to see issue here?
Wolfbet team will have their fund partially in that token, to make sure that they will pay users if they win big and withdraw big amount in that token too.

It's different than exchanges, you deposit, trade and withdraw, that's it. With casinos, users are mostly allowed to withdraw in the same token they deposit for bet. If there is no conversion feature on the casino, there is no other way.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 16, 2024, 06:10:50 PM

Wolfbet saw the potential into those memecoins that they have recently adopted and that's because those meme coins have got a huge community and they're backing the coin. And that's why it's wise for them to adopt it so that if there are gamblers who are also holding those memecoins, they're free to deposit and play anytime they wish to. At the same time, during the bull run, many gamblers would like to gamble with their memecoins instead of precious cryptos such as BTC and other top coins.

Meme coin ecosystem actually grew up a lot since the last market cycle. Previous cycles, there is Dogecoin, but in 2020 - 2021 market bull run, there is a Shiba Inu, and with time another big name appears PEPE. In this market cycle, meme coins or I would like to say them as meme tokens, they're not actually coins, started to be a big part in cryptocurrency market.

Don't get my opinion wrong, I saw meme tokens are very risky but it does not change a fact in this market, meme tokens have been growing up their weights in this market. I don't recommend people to invest in meme tokens because they are very risky and mostly useless.

Wolf.bet team did right things to provide other options with meme tokens for user deposit, bet and withdrawal, it's only service and products for customers that need to be as most diversifying and convenient as possible.

Yeah, we have seen the changes from dogecoin to new born shiba dogs, frogs, cats, etc and many other meme tokens as you said. I agree that wolfbet did the right thing in giving options to the holders of it that would also like to spend these memes to the games that they have so it's a wise action that they've adopted.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 16, 2024, 06:10:50 PM

Wolfbet saw the potential into those memecoins that they have recently adopted and that's because those meme coins have got a huge community and they're backing the coin. And that's why it's wise for them to adopt it so that if there are gamblers who are also holding those memecoins, they're free to deposit and play anytime they wish to. At the same time, during the bull run, many gamblers would like to gamble with their memecoins instead of precious cryptos such as BTC and other top coins.

At least the more you provide many deposit options the better for profit and some big casinos have also implemented the system first. As long as the meme coin that is registered has a community and high market capitalization it is the right decision. Moreover $PEPE is one of the meme coins that ranks 3rd on CMC after Doge and Shiba Inu.

That's really it. There's the community that has it and it's impossible that they don't have gamblers that would like to test and deposit their meme tokens/coins to wolfbet and that's why they're welcome here to deposit those meme tokens that wolfbet is also supporting.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 16, 2024, 06:10:50 PM

Wolfbet saw the potential into those memecoins that they have recently adopted and that's because those meme coins have got a huge community and they're backing the coin. And that's why it's wise for them to adopt it so that if there are gamblers who are also holding those memecoins, they're free to deposit and play anytime they wish to. At the same time, during the bull run, many gamblers would like to gamble with their memecoins instead of precious cryptos such as BTC and other top coins.

At least the more you provide many deposit options the better for profit and some big casinos have also implemented the system first. As long as the meme coin that is registered has a community and high market capitalization it is the right decision. Moreover $PEPE is one of the meme coins that ranks 3rd on CMC after Doge and Shiba Inu.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 16, 2024, 06:10:50 PM

Wolfbet saw the potential into those memecoins that they have recently adopted and that's because those meme coins have got a huge community and they're backing the coin. And that's why it's wise for them to adopt it so that if there are gamblers who are also holding those memecoins, they're free to deposit and play anytime they wish to. At the same time, during the bull run, many gamblers would like to gamble with their memecoins instead of precious cryptos such as BTC and other top coins.

Meme coin ecosystem actually grew up a lot since the last market cycle. Previous cycles, there is Dogecoin, but in 2020 - 2021 market bull run, there is a Shiba Inu, and with time another big name appears PEPE. In this market cycle, meme coins or I would like to say them as meme tokens, they're not actually coins, started to be a big part in cryptocurrency market.

Don't get my opinion wrong, I saw meme tokens are very risky but it does not change a fact in this market, meme tokens have been growing up their weights in this market. I don't recommend people to invest in meme tokens because they are very risky and mostly useless.

Wolf.bet team did right things to provide other options with meme tokens for user deposit, bet and withdrawal, it's only service and products for customers that need to be as most diversifying and convenient as possible.

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Quote from: naira on December 16, 2024, 10:30:44 AM

You may be right, but keep in mind there is something you may be missing. The plus side of casinos offering meme coin deposit options is that we are entering the altseason so casinos also benefit from users depositing with meme coins. Also, users can make it a viable option, gas fees are cheap and if you bet and win it will increase your meme coins even more.

Wolfbet saw the potential into those memecoins that they have recently adopted and that's because those meme coins have got a huge community and they're backing the coin. And that's why it's wise for them to adopt it so that if there are gamblers who are also holding those memecoins, they're free to deposit and play anytime they wish to. At the same time, during the bull run, many gamblers would like to gamble with their memecoins instead of precious cryptos such as BTC and other top coins.

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Quote from: Su-asa on December 16, 2024, 10:16:35 AM

In my opinion dogecoin is the only memecoins that has a lot of potential but asides from it investing in others might just be a risky gamble. It's quite a guy flipped a hundred dollars on memecoins and got over 5k dollars in a single night, to me there are no steps to it, there's no difference between buying these coins and gambling. As someone who hodl and trades BTC I don't have any interest in investing in memecoins due to how highly volatile they are. But regardless of what I have to say about memecoins dogecoin remains the king of memecoins just like you said.

You may be right, but keep in mind there is something you may be missing. The plus side of casinos offering meme coin deposit options is that we are entering the altseason so casinos also benefit from users depositing with meme coins. Also, users can make it a viable option, gas fees are cheap and if you bet and win it will increase your meme coins even more.

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I like it, but on top of that, I would like to emphasize the importance of Dogecoin, the first or first successful meme coin. PEPE, FLOKI, BONK are meme tokens created recent years, but Dogecoin has been already here for a long time and passed through many market cycles.

It can be coincidence or intention in your graphic design, to put Dogecoin on the top. It's King of Meme coins, and deserved to be on top.

Dogecoin has another big advantage than other meme tokens as it is a Proof of Work coin, that is safer than Smart Contract tokens.

In my opinion dogecoin is the only memecoins that has a lot of potential but asides from it investing in others might just be a risky gamble. It's quite a guy flipped a hundred dollars on memecoins and got over 5k dollars in a single night, to me there are no steps to it, there's no difference between buying these coins and gambling. As someone who hodl and trades BTC I don't have any interest in investing in memecoins due to how highly volatile they are. But regardless of what I have to say about memecoins dogecoin remains the king of memecoins just like you said.

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