Topic: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service - page 127. (Read 624197 times)
To be certain only burnin can answer this question is there going to be new 10 chips PCB version or same one will be used.
I won't do partial assembly, either 10 or 20.
Assembly cost can be paid in BTC or Eur. (Paypal, Wire Transfer)
Expect about 80 Eur assembly cost per module (that doesn't include chip cost).
For The 20 Chip Module expect about 100 Eur.
There will be the following order options:
1. Completed 10 Chip PCB with mounting materials and cooling solution
2. Completed 20 Chip PCB with mounting materials and cooling solution
3. Bare bones assembled 10 or 20 Chip PCBs for the DIY folks
4. Empty 10 or 20 Chip boards for hard-core DIY (If you ordered chips from Zefir i can send them together with the boards)
Ordering will be done through an dedicated website that is not up yet.
I'll announce the launch through my email newsletter.
Edit - added
I agree on that one and I was thinking on space wasted on PCB.
I can buy 15 chips more from zefir and I'm not sure if it is possible for a 20 chip board to work with only 15 chips placed on it.
Basically Im asking if it can work underpopulated and add later 5 chips more.
Basically Im asking if it can work underpopulated and add later 5 chips more.
I won't do partial assembly, either 10 or 20.
Assembly cost can be paid in BTC or Eur. (Paypal, Wire Transfer)
Expect about 80 Eur assembly cost per module (that doesn't include chip cost).
For The 20 Chip Module expect about 100 Eur.
There will be the following order options:
1. Completed 10 Chip PCB with mounting materials and cooling solution
2. Completed 20 Chip PCB with mounting materials and cooling solution
3. Bare bones assembled 10 or 20 Chip PCBs for the DIY folks
4. Empty 10 or 20 Chip boards for hard-core DIY (If you ordered chips from Zefir i can send them together with the boards)
Ordering will be done through an dedicated website that is not up yet.
I'll announce the launch through my email newsletter.
Edit - added
But the material used isnt the main factor. The main factor is time and the price of production. Producing a small number of different pcb's wont bring an advantage. Its maybe the same price then. So its better to use the same pcb, get a lower price for producing it and populate it only with half the chips.
And i think users that order the bitburner X wont have problems with the space anyway. If they would have many miners they would order bitburner xx.
And i think users that order the bitburner X wont have problems with the space anyway. If they would have many miners they would order bitburner xx.
I agree on that one and I was thinking on space wasted on PCB.
and what about pricing?
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
read OP, it says €80
I read it, but the question remains, because the same 20 chip PCB will be used for 10 chips version.
That is your assumption. Two type of boards were planed to be developed, and so far 20 chips version is finished.
It is unsure is there going to be 10 chips version.
From perspective of economy and material used it would be strange to use same board and than populate it with only half of it's chips capacity.
For the production, such a board would be waste of space, so design should be different.
burnin said somewhere these boards will be 20 chip only, and for me OP is quite clear on that having in mind burnin doesn't offer chip sales.
But the material used isnt the main factor. The main factor is time and the price of production. Producing a small number of different pcb's wont bring an advantage. Its maybe the same price then. So its better to use the same pcb, get a lower price for producing it and populate it only with half the chips.
And i think users that order the bitburner X wont have problems with the space anyway. If they would have many miners they would order bitburner xx.
and what about pricing?
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
read OP, it says €80
I read it, but the question remains, because the same 20 chip PCB will be used for 10 chips version.
That is your assumption. Two type of boards were planed to be developed, and so far 20 chips version is finished.
It is unsure is there going to be 10 chips version.
From perspective of economy and material used it would be strange to use same board and than populate it with only half of it's chips capacity.
For the production, such a board would be waste of space, so design should be different.
burnin said somewhere these boards will be 20 chip only, and for me OP is quite clear on that having in mind burnin doesn't offer chip sales.
@Burnin
Greate news with the overclocking
####
Hey guys,
which power supply are you guys planing to use? Are there any favorites?
What about this Thermaltake?
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001812
1475w @ 12V <-> 26 Boards @ 55watt
Are there any Experience with this high power supply for FPGAs? Or is it better to use 2 weaker PSUs?
How deep are your 19" Racks (32inch / 40inch) ? - for the Users of the Si-System = 0,8/1m)
Thank you
Regards
Finn
Greate news with the overclocking
####
Hey guys,
which power supply are you guys planing to use? Are there any favorites?
What about this Thermaltake?
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001812
1475w @ 12V <-> 26 Boards @ 55watt
Are there any Experience with this high power supply for FPGAs? Or is it better to use 2 weaker PSUs?
How deep are your 19" Racks (32inch / 40inch) ? - for the Users of the Si-System = 0,8/1m)
Thank you
Regards
Finn
burnin suggests a single rail 850 Watts psu for 16 burnin-XX boards. Don't know if it is more efficient, but in case of psu failure it is more reliable to use 2.
Yes, I know that the price is reasonable, at least for the 20 chip boards.
THats why I will order 20+ 20 chip boards. BUT, I also need 10 chip boards, and I need info how much will those boards cost and take some action accordingly.
I am following and supporting this project from its beginning, and this started as a 10 chip project.
THats why I will order 20+ 20 chip boards. BUT, I also need 10 chip boards, and I need info how much will those boards cost and take some action accordingly.
I am following and supporting this project from its beginning, and this started as a 10 chip project.
and what about pricing?
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
read OP, it says €80
I read it, but the question remains, because the same 20 chip PCB will be used for 10 chip version.
The price is completely reasonable and if you think otherwise you are free to go look for alternatives.
Somehow i think that 2.5 GH/s for less than 3 Btc is still quite a good deal.
Of course you are free to look for better deals elsewhere.
You could sell me 10x chips and get 7x Bitburner XX's 
Jokes aside, there's a purpose for 10 chip miners (different miners mining different coins, selling devices, setting up in different locations etc.)
Jokes aside, there's a purpose for 10 chip miners (different miners mining different coins, selling devices, setting up in different locations etc.)
Why don't you order 7.5 boards with 20 Chips ? .-)
and what about pricing?
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
There will be no 10 chip board. Just 20 chip board populated with 10 chips.will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
It doesn't make sense developing 10 chip board in this narrow time frame.
And 10 chip board probably wouldn't be cheaper - there is very low number of orders for this product expected.
It's wiser developing only one board (can be ordered in greater quantities) and populating it accordingly with 10 or 20 chips.
I understand that.
But the problem is that I was planning to order 15 boards with 10 chips (dont ask me why). Now I just want to know what the price will be.
and what about pricing?
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
There will be no 10 chip board. Just 20 chip board populated with 10 chips.will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
It doesn't make sense developing 10 chip board in this narrow time frame.
And 10 chip board probably wouldn't be cheaper - there is very low number of orders for this product expected.
It's wiser developing only one board (can be ordered in greater quantities) and populating it accordingly with 10 or 20 chips.
and what about pricing?
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
read OP, it says €80
I read it, but the question remains, because the same 20 chip PCB will be used for 10 chip version.
and what about pricing?
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
read OP, it says €80
and what about pricing?
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
will the 10 chip board coast like the 20 chip board?
if so, it will be very expensive.
As far as i understood the board works with 10 or 20 chips. Not with any other number. There are 2 groups of 10 chips each. Thats why both boards are nearly the same price i guess. A bitburner x is only a bitburner xx with 1 instead both 10-chip routes enabled.
You know this for a fact? Yes the chips are logically organised in chains, but initial discussions were quite clear there would be two boards. Hence why I say, check with the man himself.I have sent burnin a PM seeking clarification. I bought 10 chips (all I could afford a the time) with the understanding there would be a 10 and 20 chip version. There's been no mention of the X version for some time now so I'm getting concerned, hence why I've asked a few times if the plans are still going ahead.
But you're already trying to sell your 10 chips in the GB thread. No patience?
It was in response to other batches about to wind up, I didn't want to get caught out. Anyway...
burnin has confirmed via PM that there will be 1 board. 10 chip versions are available by using Bitburner XX boards that are 'semi populated'.
Thanks for the PM burnin, keep up the great work.
@Burnin
Greate news with the overclocking
####
Hey guys,
which power supply are you guys planing to use? Are there any favorites?
What about this Thermaltake?
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001812
1475w @ 12V <-> 26 Boards @ 55watt
Are there any Experience with this high power supply for FPGAs? Or is it better to use 2 weaker PSUs?
How deep are your 19" Racks (32inch / 40inch) ? - for the Users of the Si-System = 0,8/1m)
Thank you
Regards
Finn
Greate news with the overclocking
####
Hey guys,
which power supply are you guys planing to use? Are there any favorites?
What about this Thermaltake?
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00001812
1475w @ 12V <-> 26 Boards @ 55watt
Are there any Experience with this high power supply for FPGAs? Or is it better to use 2 weaker PSUs?
How deep are your 19" Racks (32inch / 40inch) ? - for the Users of the Si-System = 0,8/1m)
Thank you
Regards
Finn
As far as i understood the board works with 10 or 20 chips. Not with any other number. There are 2 groups of 10 chips each. Thats why both boards are nearly the same price i guess. A bitburner x is only a bitburner xx with 1 instead both 10-chip routes enabled.
You know this for a fact? Yes the chips are logically organised in chains, but initial discussions were quite clear there would be two boards. Hence why I say, check with the man himself.I have sent burnin a PM seeking clarification. I bought 10 chips (all I could afford a the time) with the understanding there would be a 10 and 20 chip version. There's been no mention of the X version for some time now so I'm getting concerned, hence why I've asked a few times if the plans are still going ahead.
But you're already trying to sell your 10 chips in the GB thread. No patience?
As far as i understood the board works with 10 or 20 chips. Not with any other number. There are 2 groups of 10 chips each. Thats why both boards are nearly the same price i guess. A bitburner x is only a bitburner xx with 1 instead both 10-chip routes enabled.
You know this for a fact? Yes the chips are logically organised in chains, but initial discussions were quite clear there would be two boards. Hence why I say, check with the man himself.I have sent burnin a PM seeking clarification. I bought 10 chips (all I could afford a the time) with the understanding there would be a 10 and 20 chip version. There's been no mention of the X version for some time now so I'm getting concerned, hence why I've asked a few times if the plans are still going ahead.
Todays status update:
Overall Project status: Working hard to get the boards into Production & final touches to the order website
Development status:
Yesterdays 24hr Burn in was completed with 0,3% HW errors.
Implemented Temperature monitoring today and tested Overclocking capabilities a bit.
20x 256Mhz = 5.120Ghash/s - 36 Watts 142Mhash/W
20x 320Mhz = 6.400Ghash/s - 50 Watts 128Mhash/W
Talked to the guys from Anfi-Tec today to get the watercooling solution going.
>>>>And for all the CAD gurus out there: 3D MODELS<<<<
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wl0t2anb000tz8q/3dmodel.zip
Overall Project status: Working hard to get the boards into Production & final touches to the order website
Development status:
Yesterdays 24hr Burn in was completed with 0,3% HW errors.
Implemented Temperature monitoring today and tested Overclocking capabilities a bit.
20x 256Mhz = 5.120Ghash/s - 36 Watts 142Mhash/W
20x 320Mhz = 6.400Ghash/s - 50 Watts 128Mhash/W
Talked to the guys from Anfi-Tec today to get the watercooling solution going.
>>>>And for all the CAD gurus out there: 3D MODELS<<<<
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wl0t2anb000tz8q/3dmodel.zip
great news burnin!
As far as i understood the board works with 10 or 20 chips. Not with any other number. There are 2 groups of 10 chips each. Thats why both boards are nearly the same price i guess. A bitburner x is only a bitburner xx with 1 instead both 10-chip routes enabled.
You know this for a fact? Yes the chips are logically organised in chains, but initial discussions were quite clear there would be two boards. Hence why I say, check with the man himself.Jump to: