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Topic: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service - page 169. (Read 624197 times)

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Good luck and have fun playing with the, recently posted, schematics by Avalon.
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I'm still a fence sitter. I'm torn between this option, and the Klondike option. I'm not willing to commit to one or the other just yet, until I see actual results and proof of concept, which can't happen until Avalon releases the source.

Thats my point too. Nothing is shown till now by any developer. But i tend to klondike too. Im a bit unsure about burnin finally too because i contacted him via pm and twice in the thread to ask if i can visit him to check out his place and get a feeling about this all. He didnt react to this question. So being forced to pay without anything to ensure me... i doubt. On the other hand... if its only claiming interest in the miner without having to pay now would be another thing...

SebastianJu,

Personally, I was hoping to hedge my bets between two developers, in case one can't deliver, or ones unit is superior in some way.
I'm sure plenty of others here have a similar plan (if not, I'd urge you all to consider it), are you fine with split shipping from your groupbuy?
newbie
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*cough*  SCAM  *cough*

Seriously, his mock-up looks like it was made by a 13 year old in Google Sketchup.
And check his post history. There are some inconsistencies:

At first he says, there will be "no pretty" websites, but now there will be one.
Why? So he scam people outside of Bitcointalk.

In his first post he says he's a Bitstream Developer.
Now he's an electrical engineer...

Also, the original run was for 500. Now it's for 1000.
I guarantee there will be no record of how many orders have actually been received.

Don't be surprised if he only accepts BTC when the time comes.
Who says they accept "fiat"? They would accept "euros" or "deutsche marks".

MOST IMPORTANTLY, he seems to ignore any questions about his real-life identity or credentials.


Will scam.
Watching closely.
legendary
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I tried to scan the thread but I didn't catch where in Germany burnin is located. Also, is a pickup of the complete boards possible in person? I'm trying to plan my summer vacation Wink

He is in hamburg. I would bring chips to him maybe too but till now i didnt get an answer for questions regarding visiting him. Another one in my groupbuy lives in hamburg too and would like to visit him, making fotos and so of its workspace. If i would get a yes for it i could inform him.
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I run Linux on my abacus.
I tried to scan the thread but I didn't catch where in Germany burnin is located. Also, is a pickup of the complete boards possible in person? I'm trying to plan my summer vacation Wink
legendary
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I'm still a fence sitter. I'm torn between this option, and the Klondike option. I'm not willing to commit to one or the other just yet, until I see actual results and proof of concept, which can't happen until Avalon releases the source.

Thats my point too. Nothing is shown till now by any developer. But i tend to klondike too. Im a bit unsure about burnin finally too because i contacted him via pm and twice in the thread to ask if i can visit him to check out his place and get a feeling about this all. He didnt react to this question. So being forced to pay without anything to ensure me... i doubt. On the other hand... if its only claiming interest in the miner without having to pay now would be another thing...
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Will the website you set up be a buy now website or is it only to check out how big the interest is? I mean the chips will come to you in a certain order anyway, so an early order with your shop cant be filled first when the chips are ordered later than others. So i wonder if the money will be collected from the start. I hope not.

I figure the chips will get to him either way BUT the people who actually completed the order process on the site would be first come first serve. I say this because Burnin has NOTHING to do with zefir's batch order placement. Our batch placement is an arrangement we as buyers have with zefir. Burnins only service is to assemble, so again, I would assume Burnin would assemble them in order by orders placed on his site. If an order on his site comes up and their chips have NOT arrived- again, I would assume they would be skipped and the next order would begin.

That's just the way that it makes logical sense to me but please someone poke at the holes I might of missed so we can all get a better idea.

I didnt say another thing. Its only that some orders now with burnin as the first buyer and the batch with his asics is bought only now from avalon he most probably cant be the first getting their miner.
But when i have to pay now when the shop starts i probably wont. Its much time until the chips deliver and many offers will be available till then. So i dont want to be bound to a contract so early.

I'm in the same boat. But that should be a reward for those who are willing to make a binding agreement. They should receive priority over those who wait until the last minute, just because they happen to be in a favorable chip batch doesn't mean they should get to jump ahead of those who committed early on.

I'm still a fence sitter. I'm torn between this option, and the Klondike option. I'm not willing to commit to one or the other just yet, until I see actual results and proof of concept, which can't happen until Avalon releases the source.
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Will the website you set up be a buy now website or is it only to check out how big the interest is? I mean the chips will come to you in a certain order anyway, so an early order with your shop cant be filled first when the chips are ordered later than others. So i wonder if the money will be collected from the start. I hope not.

I figure the chips will get to him either way BUT the people who actually completed the order process on the site would be first come first serve. I say this because Burnin has NOTHING to do with zefir's batch order placement. Our batch placement is an arrangement we as buyers have with zefir. Burnins only service is to assemble, so again, I would assume Burnin would assemble them in order by orders placed on his site. If an order on his site comes up and their chips have NOT arrived- again, I would assume they would be skipped and the next order would begin.

That's just the way that it makes logical sense to me but please someone poke at the holes I might of missed so we can all get a better idea.

I didnt say another thing. Its only that some orders now with burnin as the first buyer and the batch with his asics is bought only now from avalon he most probably cant be the first getting their miner.
But when i have to pay now when the shop starts i probably wont. Its much time until the chips deliver and many offers will be available till then. So i dont want to be bound to a contract so early.
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The orders will be organized in two ways:
1. by chip-batch your Chips are in
2. by order-id


This is self explanatory Chip Batch order placement WILL be relevant. Even if all batch orders arrive at the same time (I asked this in the thread and Burnin confirmed that chip-batch placement will still be relevant in this case).
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I think this is perfectly reasonable. If you placed an order first, your order is at the front of the line when your chips arrive.

Assuming there are 4 group buys of chips that get ordered, we'll cal them A, B, C, and D. If orders from customers involved in various group buys came in as follows:

1. A
2. A
3. B
4. C
5. A
6. D
7. B
8. C
9. B
10. A


If the B chips came in first, then the orders should be processed 3, 7, 9. assuming he gets to 7, and order C comes in, he should process 4. and 8 prior to getting to 9. If he only gets to 4, and then A chips come in, he should do 1, 2, and 5 before moving on, etc, etc.

Should be easy to keep track of. Orders stay in the queue they're in, but get passed over if there are other chips available. Once those chips are available, they are processed in their proper place in the queue.
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Will the website you set up be a buy now website or is it only to check out how big the interest is? I mean the chips will come to you in a certain order anyway, so an early order with your shop cant be filled first when the chips are ordered later than others. So i wonder if the money will be collected from the start. I hope not.
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I assume you will take bitcoin as payment?  Wink

yes, he said he will accept both - fiat and btc
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I assume you will take bitcoin as payment?  Wink
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Hi,

as of my understanding the power connector ist not included in the price and you mentioned we would need a " 6Pin VGA, barrel jack for wallwart, power-stacking-connector."

can you also offer this power connectors aditionally to your miner? or can you show me a source where to buy these?

best regards
newbie
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I am very interested in your project,

Can you tell me how far along the design is. How long before you have a working PCB?

Also is your design open-source and will I be allowed to print your boards myself?
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sign me up for 1 20 chip setup ASAP!
newbie
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Ja, u're a genius:)
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Hi, when your website will open?

Just right after he decides to open it.
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Hi, when your website will open?
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