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Topic: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service - page 45. (Read 624200 times)

legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
After a long journey through the mail, I received my BitBurner XX today.

I've tried mining on a Pi and on my Atom laptop (Ubuntu).  It mines but performance seems low.  cgminer looks like this:

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cgminer version 3.4.2 - Started: [2013-09-10 19:22:54]
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 (5s):196.0M (avg):2.273Gh/s | A:416  R:32  HW:0  WU:33.4/m
 ST: 2  SS: 0  NB: 3  LW: 745  GF: 0  RF: 0
 Connected to mmpool.bitparking.com diff 16 with stratum as user blah
 Block: 001bde38c9d8e8f1...  Diff:86.9M  Started: [19:34:32]  Best share: 507
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 [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 BTB 0: 44C 282 1225mV | 2.445G/2.273Gh/s | A:416 R:32 HW:0 WU: 33.4/m
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 [2013-09-10 19:35:03] Rejected 07c6e3be Diff 32/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:35:55] Accepted 037c9b80 Diff 73/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:36:11] Accepted 050a295f Diff 50/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:36:58] Accepted 043e8c3c Diff 60/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:37:21] Accepted 0977444c Diff 27/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:38:28] Accepted 06ec884b Diff 36/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:38:39] Accepted 060fdfff Diff 42/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:38:56] Accepted 00813d5b Diff 507/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:39:28] Accepted 05422507 Diff 48/16 BTB 0
 [2013-09-10 19:39:33] Accepted 0ba7c080 Diff 21/16 BTB 0

Any ideas what I should look at?
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
Hi burnin,

I understand that informations given too early can end up in a mess, but I'd really like to know whats the current roadmap and I think many others need to know as well in order to make the right decisions, as far as possible. I have 2 orders open and I'm trying to get the chips refunded since Avalons latest newsletter.

As interest on the BitFuryBurners seems to be strong enough and the chips are partially in-hand, I guess you're working on these boards already.

Can you confirm you will be producing BitBurner for Avalon Gen2 Chips, too?

I hope I didn't miss something important in this thread regarding this.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
I changed my boards from my PC to my laptop and after 20-30 mins of running i start getting this message:

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Avalon: Discarding 2 bytes from buffer

What's wrong?
hero member
Activity: 493
Merit: 500
Hooray for non-equilibrium thermodynamics!
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You want to do business with Avalon again - after all that a happened, and after all the financial losses many incurred???
Are you asking for a repeat performance???

Calculatory losses. Actually. I actually won money, since I bought the BTC for Chips at 86$ and sold at 141 after the refunding...

It is a concern though isn't it? I mean we're all keen to find a solution that supports burnin in his future projects and helps him to limit his losses (and ours) from the current mess. He's been a hero through all of this. I just wonder if rushing back to BitSynCom is the best way to move forward? You'd have thought that ordering chips from a foundry, splitting them, packaging them and sending them to customers would be fairly straightforward (at least within 5 months). However, they have clearly had various unforeseen problems with this. You wonder what kind of problems they might encounter sending gen2 chips out, even if they aren't a pre-order.

Of course it is. At this point in time, im actually meandring whether or not staying witha BFL order ight have been a better choice. I tink both companies did not really get themselves into real honorable positions though...

Yes indeed, neither company has been ideal so far Sad. As the saying goes "once bitten, twice shy" - maybe the newcomers will be a better bet, but who knows.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
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You want to do business with Avalon again - after all that a happened, and after all the financial losses many incurred???
Are you asking for a repeat performance???

Calculatory losses. Actually. I actually won money, since I bought the BTC for Chips at 86$ and sold at 141 after the refunding...

It is a concern though isn't it? I mean we're all keen to find a solution that supports burnin in his future projects and helps him to limit his losses (and ours) from the current mess. He's been a hero through all of this. I just wonder if rushing back to BitSynCom is the best way to move forward? You'd have thought that ordering chips from a foundry, splitting them, packaging them and sending them to customers would be fairly straightforward (at least within 5 months). However, they have clearly had various unforeseen problems with this. You wonder what kind of problems they might encounter sending gen2 chips out, even if they aren't a pre-order.

Of course it is. At this point in time, im actually meandring whether or not staying witha BFL order ight have been a better choice. I tink both companies did not really get themselves into real honorable positions though...
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Well I guess non of us really know what is going through Yifu's mind.  Lets just hope gen2 will become some sort of peace offering.  He needs to do something to restore credibility, for his own sake.
hero member
Activity: 525
Merit: 500
..yeah
As much as I don't wish to do business with BitSynCom anymore, if gen2 chips really are a direct replacement, and can put new life into BitBurners that would otherwise be junk, then I'm cautiously interested.

I wont pay bullshit prices tho.  I'd rather have my 50% back than send BitSynCom more money only to hope and pray for ROI.

+1. But then again avalon won't be cheap if we look at the past (don't count batch1) and they have no reason to give a good prices except for "compensation" of us. Compensation was given through refunds, so they are done (from their point of view) and to rely on good willing for good prices.. in case of yifu.. oh come on, I don't see this. :/
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
As much as I don't wish to do business with BitSynCom anymore, if gen2 chips really are a direct replacement, and can put new life into BitBurners that would otherwise be junk, then I'm cautiously interested.

I wont pay bullshit prices tho.  I'd rather have my 50% back than send BitSynCom more money only to hope and pray for ROI.

hero member
Activity: 493
Merit: 500
Hooray for non-equilibrium thermodynamics!
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You want to do business with Avalon again - after all that a happened, and after all the financial losses many incurred???
Are you asking for a repeat performance???

Calculatory losses. Actually. I actually won money, since I bought the BTC for Chips at 86$ and sold at 141 after the refunding...

It is a concern though isn't it? I mean we're all keen to find a solution that supports burnin in his future projects and helps him to limit his losses (and ours) from the current mess. He's been a hero through all of this. I just wonder if rushing back to BitSynCom is the best way to move forward? You'd have thought that ordering chips from a foundry, splitting them, packaging them and sending them to customers would be fairly straightforward (at least within 5 months). However, they have clearly had various unforeseen problems with this. You wonder what kind of problems they might encounter sending gen2 chips out, even if they aren't a pre-order.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
Quote
You want to do business with Avalon again - after all that a happened, and after all the financial losses many incurred???
Are you asking for a repeat performance???

Calculatory losses. Actually. I actually won money, since I bought the BTC for Chips at 86$ and sold at 141 after the refunding...
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
Someone has news, from bitburners zefir batch 2?
Someone got shipped?

+1

Not for me, order #558  Zefir' Batch #2. Still says processing on webpage. Will that state change when they ship ?  

My order still shows "Processing"

Batch 2 chips were delivered a little over 2 weeks ago.

Burnin,

Could you provide some status on Batch 2?
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
I'd love the idea if burnin agrees  as well.But first things first : let's see the chip and performance and decide after.
We're also waiting a reply from him regarding conversion to bitfury boards .

This would indeed be a nice solution after all: If the 55nm chips were to sell immediately, have good specs and reasonable prices and burnin could assemble them without any hassle (of course any extra work should be  paid from customers). Burnin, what are your thoughts on this?

I'm no engineer, but surely some changes would have to be made to fully exploit the chips potential, whether it be voltage changes or cooling etc?  In any case I'd be happy to let Burnin decide if he'd like to go this way or the bitfury route.
If all is as Avalon claim then it would make a nice clean solution though, if somewhat late of course..no telling how late they'll be with that chip & samples etc.

You want to do business with Avalon again - after all that a happened, and after all the financial losses many incurred???
Are you asking for a repeat performance???
legendary
Activity: 1062
Merit: 1003
I'd love the idea if burnin agrees  as well.But first things first : let's see the chip and performance and decide after.
We're also waiting a reply from him regarding conversion to bitfury boards .

This would indeed be a nice solution after all: If the 55nm chips were to sell immediately, have good specs and reasonable prices and burnin could assemble them without any hassle (of course any extra work should be  paid from customers). Burnin, what are your thoughts on this?

I'm no engineer, but surely some changes would have to be made to fully exploit the chips potential, whether it be voltage changes or cooling etc?  In any case I'd be happy to let Burnin decide if he'd like to go this way or the bitfury route.
If all is as Avalon claim then it would make a nice clean solution though, if somewhat late of course..no telling how late they'll be with that chip & samples etc.
member
Activity: 80
Merit: 10
I am in support of this idea. From reading the Avalon details on the 55nm it should be only a case of substituting the 110nm. Of course nothing is ever that easy and we will not know for sure until the full specs are released on github
hero member
Activity: 525
Merit: 500
..yeah
I'd love the idea if burnin agrees  as well.But first things first : let's see the chip and performance and decide after.
We're also waiting a reply from him regarding conversion to bitfury boards .

This would indeed be a nice solution after all: If the 55nm chips were to sell immediately, have good specs and reasonable prices and burnin could assemble them without any hassle (of course any extra work should be  paid from customers). Burnin, what are your thoughts on this?
hero member
Activity: 505
Merit: 500
I'd love the idea if burnin agrees  as well.But first things first : let's see the chip and performance and decide after.
We're also waiting a reply from him regarding conversion to bitfury boards .
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
fyi:

"Avalon Generation Two Chips 55nm
Those who have invested in time and money on Avalon Generation One based devices and clones can rejoice in the fact we had the foresight to make Avalon Generation Two chips completely backward compatible in every way with 110nm generation one chips, which can be expect to go on sale Late October 2013 for immediate shipping. Avalon will no longer participate in any kind of pre-ordering.

Developers and Hobbyists should keep an close eye on our github account
as we will be releasing the 55nm chip specification and reference design soon"

Might make everyone his bitburner viable again Wink
sr. member
Activity: 327
Merit: 250
I too would be interested in converting my BitBurner board order into a FuryBurner order as well.
hero member
Activity: 1232
Merit: 516
Hi burnin,
I am still very interested in converting my paid BitBurner orders into 'Furyburner' orders.
What are the chances for this at the moment? You gave a quote for boards with Bitfury chips,
but later announced that you were comtemplating to cease doing business with individual custumers.

I want to thank you for your hard work so far, and the excellent Avalon-based design you came up with.
Such a shame that the whole thing went belly-up due to Bitsyncoms inability to deliver in time  Undecided
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
Someone has news, from bitburners zefir batch 2?
Someone got shipped?

+1

Not for me, order #558  Zefir' Batch #2. Still says processing on webpage. Will that state change when they ship ?  

My order still shows "Processing"
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