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hero member
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@ Burnin

Instead of trowing away the pcb's. Why u dont accept assembly orders for cancelled ones?
Seems enough peoples, have chips, but no order by you.

I have 320 chips in SebastianJU's Batch 1, that needs an assembly.

Whats the solution?
Sharing between the users and changing the delivery adresses?
Or we can place orders for already ordered Chips?

Thx
Mastah

I have orders and no chips, think there's quite a few who'd do a trade.
full member
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@ Burnin

Instead of trowing away the pcb's. Why u dont accept assembly orders for cancelled ones?
Seems enough peoples, have chips, but no order by you.

I have 320 chips in SebastianJU's Batch 1, that needs an assembly.

Whats the solution?
Sharing between the users and changing the delivery adresses?
So we create a win-win-win situation.

Or we can place orders for already ordered Chips?
refunds with losses, trowing away pcb'etc.

Or you stop totaly with the orders.
And all will loose...

Thx
Mastah
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Funny, people trying to sell their bitburner order at 100% Smiley

If they don't sell it, they get 50%
Why not just settle for selling it at 60% or 70% to increase chances?

Ah well, economics, meh

burnin refunds 50% now and 20% in 2-4 weeks. Thus, altogether 70%.

If nobody offered already paid bitburners to people who have chips but no order these people were screwed and the price would even go beyond 100%.

tl;dr 100% is a fair price
donator
Activity: 446
Merit: 262
Interesting.
Is there somebody that has supplied chips on time and is not satisfied by the product delivered to him or the way issuses have been handled in case there have been issues present?

I'm getting quite tired of all these "GIVE ME ALL MY MONEY BACK" nonsense. If i was burnin i'll just ship the bitburner boards with no chips to you and kindly ask you to send them back for completion upon being able to supply the chips to be placed on them. YOU ALWAYS KNEW that when your order gets completed is dependent partially on the time when your chips are available to be mounted. So now, due to your disability to deliver on time you see that the service that you paid for is not viable for you anymore and you are asking for refunds?

What if I go to a jeweller tomorrow and order a diamond ring with the condition that I later on provide the diamond stone for it?
I get a quote, i pay for it and the jeweler starts working on it straight away so that it will be ready ASAP and he can just fit the stone when I provide it.
Several weeks later I call the guy and tell him that I'm not going to be able to provide the stone, for whatever reason, and therefore I DEMAND to get 100% of my money paid back.
That surely sounds like it's going to happen, for sure.

Why the fuck did you order boards before making sure that your chips will be available for placement?
For one reason and one reason only: to have an earlier placed order so that you can get your boards ASAP and make more profit on them.
You might have just as well waited for your chip supplier to inform you that the chips are on the way to them and placed the order at that time.
But you didn't.

Is it really that hard to accept the facts and realize that it's your fault and not burnin's?


+1 billion of a trillion.
Deal with it.
sr. member
Activity: 476
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Funny, people trying to sell their bitburner order at 100% Smiley

If they don't sell it, they get 50%
Why not just settle for selling it at 60% or 70% to increase chances?

Ah well, economics, meh
newbie
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Hey burnin,

I wonder if you could put for every discounted bitfuryburner you may sell 1 useless pcb of a bitburner in. As I understood these parts are wasted anyway for paid preordered assembly, I'd like to get over this and have something I can put on my wall. It's still sexy as hell  Cheesy

offtopic:
Maybe one day my grandchildren will ask "Grandpa, what is it?" - It's an almost finished bitcoin miner, it cost me a fortune and would mine up to 9 gh/s.. "But grandpa, even my watch mines 100x that speed! It's sooo slow" - back then it would mine 0.2btc/day or so when it should have been delivered "Thats a fortune!  Shocked" -  Roll Eyes

I laughed my ass off, thanks Cheesy
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Seven "Complete BitBurner XX Modules with attached heat-sink" for sale

We´ve placed two orders with very low (!  Smiley) order numbers at http://www.burninmining.com. As we´ve already requested refund from zefir for the avalon chips we intend to sell these orders to people who have avalon chips but haven´t placed a order for a bitburner yet.

order #324:
- 5 x Complete BitBurner Module with attached heat-sink (20 chips per board)
- 2 x CAN-BUS Stacking cable
- standard shipping

price: €673.54

order #339
- 2 x Complete BitBurner Module with attached heat-sink (20 chips per board)
- standard shipping

price €279.65

Whoever is interested may send my a pn.
This offer is only valid under the condition that burnin allows a transfer of his orders.



I'll take the second one (2X20) if Burnin allows it, but don't you need the stacking cable? Will wait for confirmation from Burnin though.
Also, todays price is 267.75 with heatsinks, stacking cable, standard shipping & VAT. Did prices change?
IAS

The "€279.65" for order #339 is exactly what we paid:
- 2 x boards = € 249,90
- shipping: € 29.75 (incl. VAT) via Standard

sum: €279.65 (Includes €44.65 VAT)

Did not notice any price changes, but cannot fully exclude it.

The CAN cable may a) either be added to this order (if burnin agrees) or b) may be bought somewhere else (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2807146).
legendary
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Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive
I would like to see what Burnin says about transferring orders, I have already submitted to Sebastian that I changed to a refund (request submitted today) but IDK if it can be done now, so I might still be stuck with 200 chips.  I would need 10 boards (20 chips ea) and willing to pay 60% of original price (you get 10% more than you would have).  Of course this is all contingent on Burnin allowing transferring of orders. 
g83
sr. member
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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Available Now!
I also have 30 preordered Boards + 3PCB + Stackingcable -

ordernr. 7## = 4.305,35 EUR

PM if you are intrested
newbie
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I am sorry to heare that you will stop selling to endusers Cry

But I think that is the best way for getting high quality products developed in hamburg - germany.
Because you can concentrate on getting the the new boards running and in production.
Can't wait for the new boards =)


Guys remember everything Burnin rufunds to you is a gift



This still isn't clear to me.

I don't understand, if Burnin isn't accepting orders and some people need refunds (but only at 50%), why not allow people (like me and others looking for assembly) the
ability to take on the orders from others? I think that makes us happy (we get the boards and assembly) and a few people get more than the 50% refund amount.

Burnin - Can you comment on things please as the message has been mixed thus far?

Thanks for all your work. I know this is rough for many, if not the majority, of people involved. From the GB participants, organizers and all the way up the chain to you.

It's About Sharing

from a producer point of view I can understand why he won't change adresses in orders:

Have you any idea how long it would take to change XXX Orders? Or have you considered the consequences if somthings mixes up with the order? We are not talking about parcel with value of less than 100€ we are talking about tousend or even tenthousends of euros.

from a coustomer point of view
I understand you - a possible solution is that you looking for a buyer (with Avalonchips) who lives in the same country and make a private deal with him. So you only have to worry about one adress. you have to pay one additional shipping cost

but beside the small amout of additional cost you get everything back and burnin gets his order - win win situation

@tranquille
He has done his work realy well Wink  everything he gives back is a gift...
legendary
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I have 30 preordered boards. Cheesy

#4xx
legendary
Activity: 1442
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Antifragile
Seven "Complete BitBurner XX Modules with attached heat-sink" for sale

We´ve placed two orders with very low (!  Smiley) order numbers at http://www.burninmining.com. As we´ve already requested refund from zefir for the avalon chips we intend to sell these orders to people who have avalon chips but haven´t placed a order for a bitburner yet.

order #324:
- 5 x Complete BitBurner Module with attached heat-sink (20 chips per board)
- 2 x CAN-BUS Stacking cable
- standard shipping

price: €673.54

order #339
- 2 x Complete BitBurner Module with attached heat-sink (20 chips per board)
- standard shipping

price €279.65

Whoever is interested may send my a pn.
This offer is only valid under the condition that burnin allows a transfer of his orders.



I'll take the second one (2X20) if Burnin allows it, but don't you need the stacking cable? Will wait for confirmation from Burnin though.
Also, todays price is 267.75 with heatsinks, stacking cable, standard shipping & VAT. Did prices change?

IAS

I'm going to wait till all this straightens itself out. Retracting that "bid".
member
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For Sale

9x Complete BitBurner Module with attached heat-sink (20 chips per board)
1x CAN-BUS Stacking Cable
1x Express Shipping
price 1163,82€  (1:1 what i paid)

Whoever is interested may send my a pn.
This offer is only valid under the condition that burnin allows a transfer of his orders.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Seven "Complete BitBurner XX Modules with attached heat-sink" for sale

We´ve placed two orders with very low (!  Smiley) order numbers at http://www.burninmining.com. As we´ve already requested refund from zefir for the avalon chips we intend to sell these orders to people who have avalon chips but haven´t placed a order for a bitburner yet.

order #324:
- 5 x Complete BitBurner Module with attached heat-sink (20 chips per board)
- 2 x CAN-BUS Stacking cable
- standard shipping

price: €673.54

order #339
- 2 x Complete BitBurner Module with attached heat-sink (20 chips per board)
- standard shipping

price €279.65

Whoever is interested may send my a pn.
This offer is only valid under the condition that burnin allows a transfer of his orders.

legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1000
Antifragile
This still isn't clear to me.

I don't understand, if Burnin isn't accepting orders and some people need refunds (but only at 50%), why not allow people (like me and others looking for assembly) the
ability to take on the orders from others? I think that makes us happy (we get the boards and assembly) and a few people get more than the 50% refund amount.

Burnin - Can you comment on things please as the message has been mixed thus far?

Thanks for all your work. I know this is rough for many, if not the majority, of people involved. From the GB participants, organizers and all the way up the chain to you.

It's About Sharing
member
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Not really. It is an assembly with a prefinished product. Last time I heard such a discussion and it went to court it was specifically important that the product is specifically made for the client, that is after his wishes, and cannot be sold without loss to anyone else.
Lets highlight this passage:
"and cannot be sold without loss to anyone else"
This is exactly the case here because no one would want buy these boards anymore.


There might be some still wanting your Bitburners. Not all have made orders before they receive their chips:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3063321

hero member
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Hooray for non-equilibrium thermodynamics!
I ordered some chips through SebastianJu's batch 6 order. (Chips are supposed to be shipped from Yifu this Wed I believe.)
Does "I won't be selling to end-users anymore." mean those of us who have ordered chips but not placed them through Burnin Mining yet, are stuck with them?

Or?

Thx,
IAS

Hi IAS, Yifu has suggested that a large number of chips will ship on Wed, but I don't believe that there's any guarantee that Sebastian's batch 6 will be amongst them Sad. I sincerely hope that they are, but who knows. Batch 6 are not even overdue until 15th Sept, so does he have any incentive to send them out this week? Anyway, sorry to be gloomy, just wanted to make sure you weren't too disappointed if they don't turn up this week.
legendary
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Burnin stated:

Existing orders will be processed and delivered or refunded.

So you will still get your BitBurners.

Thanks toolhead. I wasn't sure what "existing orders" meant. Existing orders from Group Buys or existing orders from Burnin.

I only have an existing order from Sebastian's group buy, not from Burnin (I have yet to place that). Great to know.

Thx again,
IAS

I think you are mistaken, I am in the same boat.  I have chips ordered that I planned on keeping but have not ordered with Burnin yet due to this whole fiasco.  I decided it would be better to wait until the chips are delivered before making an order, and now that the chips are ~3 days out I am told I can no longer place an order, it is probably too late to change my decision on whether to keep the chips or get a refund, and now I can not even get them made into boards, what am I supposed to do with 200 chips and no boards?

sent you a pm, maybe you can use my order, because i have ordered and paid 9 bitburners and a stacking cable and have no chips Sad

Are orders transferable Burnin?
member
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Burnin stated:

Existing orders will be processed and delivered or refunded.

So you will still get your BitBurners.

Thanks toolhead. I wasn't sure what "existing orders" meant. Existing orders from Group Buys or existing orders from Burnin.

I only have an existing order from Sebastian's group buy, not from Burnin (I have yet to place that). Great to know.

Thx again,
IAS

I think you are mistaken, I am in the same boat.  I have chips ordered that I planned on keeping but have not ordered with Burnin yet due to this whole fiasco.  I decided it would be better to wait until the chips are delivered before making an order, and now that the chips are ~3 days out I am told I can no longer place an order, it is probably too late to change my decision on whether to keep the chips or get a refund, and now I can not even get them made into boards, what am I supposed to do with 200 chips and no boards?

sent you a pm, maybe you can use my order, because i have ordered and paid 9 bitburners and a stacking cable and have no chips Sad
legendary
Activity: 2800
Merit: 1012
Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive
Burnin stated:

Existing orders will be processed and delivered or refunded.

So you will still get your BitBurners.

Thanks toolhead. I wasn't sure what "existing orders" meant. Existing orders from Group Buys or existing orders from Burnin.

I only have an existing order from Sebastian's group buy, not from Burnin (I have yet to place that). Great to know.

Thx again,
IAS

I think you are mistaken, I am in the same boat.  I have chips ordered that I planned on keeping but have not ordered with Burnin yet due to this whole fiasco.  I decided it would be better to wait until the chips are delivered before making an order, and now that the chips are ~3 days out I am told I can no longer place an order, it is probably too late to change my decision on whether to keep the chips or get a refund, and now I can not even get them made into boards, what am I supposed to do with 200 chips and no boards?
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