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Topic: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service - page 53. (Read 624200 times)

legendary
Activity: 1904
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Ok got my boards running but when i put the "-queue 4" option to cgminer i get this error: "Unexpected extra commandline arguments". Why?

use --queue 4

That doesn't make any difference for me.

Ok that worked. Thank you.

Edit: I am currently running with these settings: --avalon-options 115200:28:10:29:415 --avalon-temp 58 --avalon-freq 415 --bitburner-voltage 1280 --avalon-fan 100 --queue 4  The boards are running at 53 degrees, but the avg speed is at 102Ghash. Shouldn't i be getting ~116Ghash?
full member
Activity: 197
Merit: 100
Ok got my boards running but when i put the "-queue 4" option to cgminer i get this error: "Unexpected extra commandline arguments". Why?

use --queue 4

That doesn't make any difference for me.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
Ok got my boards running but when i put the "-queue 4" option to cgminer i get this error: "Unexpected extra commandline arguments". Why?
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
shame on you (the seller is probably reading it) http://www.ebay.de/itm/Asic-Miner-Bitburner-XX-bis-18-GH-s-/251326535529?pt=DE_Computer_Sonstige&hash=item3a843a9769 // he says "its everything there, avalon will arrive in the next weeks".. that's scam.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
You forgot to state which batch numbers your chips were in, and if you sell those with it, or if you are just selling a bitburner pcb

And is it with or without cooling

(not interested though :p)
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1011
Ok guys, I am willing to sell my order @ burninmining to someone, because Yifu will refund the chips.  

no chips, just bitburner boards.


my order no.

#489 - > 23 bitburner XX boards with cooling solution + 2 x CAN bus cable + DHL express + VAT
#661 - > 4 bitburner XX boards with cooling solution  + VAT
#711 - > 3 bitburner XX boards with cooling solution  + VAT

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PM me if you are interested.  
member
Activity: 66
Merit: 10
All for that, I plan to put my refunded money into Bitfury chips, or maybe Cointerra if anyone ends up doing a group buy. I'd happily let Burnin keep my money as credit until a time arrives where he can produce boards for those chips.

oO You already know the difficulty isnt only rising exponentially, the prozentual rise is rising exponentially too...
Sebastian, that does not make sense to me. Difficulty is rising exponentially and then percentage is calculated on exact rise value. One can not be spearated from other.
Or better to say those two are equal - if diff is rising exponinetlly then at the same time so as percentage....
Or am I wrong?

If Difficulty rises exponetially, the prozentual rise is exponetial too, since the prozentual rise is the derivation of the difficulty rise. The derivation of the exponential function is the exponential function itself. If the difficulty rise will be polynomial of order n or even linear, then the procentual rise will be of order n-1, or for linear difficulty rise = 0.
full member
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Just another miner
burnin is 100% legal! He could deliver your assembled boards (excl. avalon chips) and thats it. He even do not have to refund the costs for assembling of the avalon chips if he already paid for an assembling slot or bought machines for e.g. Everything he refunds is because he is a nice guy. Think about that!
You have bailed out a while ago by selling your chips! You have ordered but unpaid for burnin service! I'am not arguing your statemant, but think you are hypocrit. My opinion, nothing else.

Not to take anyone's side, but anyone could also wait and pay to burnin when chips come. It was expected for chips to have unknown day of arrival and having that in mind anyone could guess it is unwise to pay assembly in advance. Burnin himself offered delayed payment with wire transfer but many had to pay immediately and not think about it for minute or two. Of course one could guess that money will be used to buy parts and be ready for chips, and you shouldn't expect less from a german guy.

I believe burnin isn't giving away his assembly effort nor his margin and I also believe he shouldn't. He is doing business and he is good at what he does, and if some of us made mistake by paying upfront, burnin shouldn't pay for it nor feel obligated to compensate for anyone's lack of clear judgement. I posted this not to flame wars, but to state my opinion.

An hypocrite for being reasonable!? I don't think so.
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
the funniest thing to do is to read the first page of all those custom hardware new vendors and then jump straight to the last page. All of the posts start like "i love you,  i want to buy it now,  i wanna a baby with you" and then in the past page: "scammer, i sue you, i want answers now".. while fpgas and asic miners are hated or outdated, they are up and mining

He he, you are right.  Thank god for someone with a sense of humour in all this.

I hope that if the refunds do go to plan (HA HA, there's another joke for you because I hope upon hope for the organisers of the groups buys they do, but you know they won't), that we use a proportion of the refunds (in real world money, as that is what they will have had to spend) to make sure that the Group Buy Organisers AND the board makers are not left in financial trouble either.
legendary
Activity: 1045
Merit: 1157
no degradation
Can someone tell me if i can run more than one bitburner connected with a usb cable on one rpi and giving each miner its own settings? That would speed up tweaking a lot. But i guess one started cgminer would find them all isnt it? Is there a way?

Here you go.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
All for that, I plan to put my refunded money into Bitfury chips, or maybe Cointerra if anyone ends up doing a group buy. I'd happily let Burnin keep my money as credit until a time arrives where he can produce boards for those chips.

oO You already know the difficulty isnt only rising exponentially, the prozentual rise is rising exponentially too...
Sebastian, that does not make sense to me. Difficulty is rising exponentially and then percentage is calculated on exact rise value. One can not be spearated from other.
Or better to say those two are equal - if diff is rising exponinetlly then at the same time so as percentage....
Or am I wrong?
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 1083
Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
Can someone tell me if i can run more than one bitburner connected with a usb cable on one rpi and giving each miner its own settings? That would speed up tweaking a lot. But i guess one started cgminer would find them all isnt it? Is there a way?

"hre Amazon.de Bestellung von "TaoTronics® TT-CM01 3,5..." wurde versandt!"

LCD screen on the way, thanks to Sebastian's tip Smiley

Dont forget the cinch-cable to connect both the monitor and the rpi...

Right, should have one (or more) of those lying around somewhere, since they always include them with everything and I never use them Smiley

Male-Male RCA if I'm correct

Im not sure what that means but the connector at the rpi is the same kind it is at the monitor.
legendary
Activity: 2674
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All for that, I plan to put my refunded money into Bitfury chips, or maybe Cointerra if anyone ends up doing a group buy. I'd happily let Burnin keep my money as credit until a time arrives where he can produce boards for those chips.

You really want to invest in the next preorder? oO You already know the difficulty isnt only rising exponentially, the prozentual rise is rising exponentially too... i await that no preorders break even in the next months. Except maybe companies mining with own asics they can create for cost at the foundry.
legendary
Activity: 2674
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Legendary Escrow Service - Tip Jar in Profile
Yes i am quite busy, but i nevertheless read customers emails daily, in more complex cases i don't reply immediately.

@tarmi
Investments in bitcoin are always high-risk and no one should invest more money then he is comfortable to lose.
I was already writing a mail to you, but it seemed better to put it out here for everyone.

So definitive answer you are looking for:
Bad news first:
I am by law not obligated to give any refunds for customer specific equipment like the bitburners as stated in my AGB (Terms of Service).

Nevertheless I value my customers, and i am nice guy.
I will (on request) refund any money that has not yet been spend on parts.
that will be about 50%.

I have to crunch some number to get the exact per board amount.

I do plan to reuse a lot of components for the bitfury design.
But some can not be reused and will be thrown away, like the PCBs for example.

For those that received a refund i could give a discount on a new bitfury order of about 70% of the not-returned funds.
But we all have to ask ourselves: is bitfury going to deliver?

Executive summary:
50% refund guaranteed.
70% money recovered when ordering a BitFury product.

This looks like it is going to get messy for everyone involved.  
Messy would be a bold understatement.




I am sure this is against German & European Laws - you have earned and can`t finally unload your whole risk to your customers at all.

I think burnin is right. Its not like buying goods, its creating something. Thats a different kind of contract. See here a question and the answer in a legal advice forum in germany (burnins location): http://www.123recht.net/Ruecktritt-vom-KaufvertragAuftrag-__f9623.html
Its german though but for english speakers google translate might help.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Someone who wants to resell unwanted Avalon chips should just ship them all to burnin and sell them to bitburner purchasers who didn't get their chips delivered yet.
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
the funniest thing to do is to read the first page of all those custom hardware new vendors and then jump straight to the last page. All of the posts start like "i love you,  i want to buy it now,  i wanna a baby with you" and then in the past page: "scammer, i sue you, i want answers now".. while fpgas and asic miners are hated or outdated, they are up and mining


sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
burnin is 100% legal! He could deliver your assembled boards (excl. avalon chips) and thats it. He even do not have to refund the costs for assembling of the avalon chips if he already paid for an assembling slot or bought machines for e.g. Everything he refunds is because he is a nice guy. Think about that!
You have bailed out a while ago by selling your chips! You have ordered but unpaid for burnin service! I'am not arguing your statemant, but think you are hypocrit. My opinion, nothing else.
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 252
burnin is 100% legal! He could deliver your assembled boards (excl. avalon chips) and thats it. He even do not have to refund the costs for assembling of the avalon chips if he already paid for an assembling slot or bought machines for e.g. Everything he refunds is because he is a nice guy. Think about that!
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 501
Will someone help me power my BitBurner boards?

http://s22.postimg.org/wo95zzom9/SAM_1566_Copy.jpg

What cables should i use? Should i use 4 red VGA cables and 4 SATA cables? I only plan to power a single board per cable.

Thank you.

Edit: Also how do i power on my boards and PSU?
You should have a cable that goes into VGA1. On the other end is a plug that should go into a Bitburner board.
Same for VGA2, ...

Ok i got that, but how do i start the PSU and the boards? If the cable are attached to the boards and i start the PSU will the boards will start too? If not then how do i start the boards?

Search the thread for "paperclip" or "bridge" and you should find at least two places where this has been thoroughly discussed before, with full instructions - including pictures.
sr. member
Activity: 359
Merit: 250
Will someone help me power my BitBurner boards?

http://s22.postimg.org/wo95zzom9/SAM_1566_Copy.jpg

What cables should i use? Should i use 4 red VGA cables and 4 SATA cables? I only plan to power a single board per cable.

Thank you.

Edit: Also how do i power on my boards and PSU?
You should have a cable that goes into VGA1. On the other end is a plug that should go into a Bitburner board.
Same for VGA2, ...

Ok i got that, but how do i start the PSU and the boards? If the cable are attached to the boards and i start the PSU will the boards will start too? If not then how do i start the boards?

No you have to buy a bridge like this: http://www.dimastech.com/Img/Prodotti/2213/4889_zoom.jpg
 or build it manually (connect green & black wire from ATX).
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