Topic: [Work in progess] Burnins Avalon Chip to mining board service - page 51. (Read 624200 times)
September 01, 2013, 10:12:17 PM
September 01, 2013, 10:00:23 PM
This Avalon chip mess has taken it's toll. You clearly set out on this project with honorable intentions and I hope people keep that in mind.
September 01, 2013, 09:22:38 PM
Not really. It is an assembly with a prefinished product. Last time I heard such a discussion and it went to court it was specifically important that the product is specifically made for the client, that is after his wishes, and cannot be sold without loss to anyone else.
Lets highlight this passage:"and cannot be sold without loss to anyone else"
This is exactly the case here because no one would want buy these boards anymore.
As we say: In German Courts and the high sea, you are in the hands of chance.
preciselyannouncement:
I won't be selling to end-users anymore.
Reasons:
- Time. I want to provide you with BitFury and CoinTerra mining boards for which i need lots of development time.
- Development and Manufacturing of electronic devices is my main qualification, not running an online-shop
- I failed to provide adequate customer service.
Some of you never heard back from their requests. - The last 3 month i worked 7 days a week all day long.
This is slowly beginning to take its toll
Consequences:
- I will continue to develop and build mining devices.
- These will be exclusively sold in large quantities to distributors.
- existing orders will be processed and delivered or refunded.
- For the upcoming Bitfury Boards i am negotiating with a 3rd party to manage the end-user sales.
But i am open to anyone interested that has the infrastructure to handle it.
Further refund information:
I thought long and hard about this whole mess we're all in.
And i am NOT content with the current model.
50% refund is all i can offer >NOW< without going instantly bankrupt.
I plan give back more, if i can.
Therefore any reuse or resale of the remaining components will be refunded. (You bought these with your money after all)
That means you do not need to buy bitfury boards from me in order to get those extra 20% back.
If you can wait until then it could be sent in one transaction. (about 2-4 weeks to wrap everything up)
I value fairness above most other things like profit for example.
That goes both ways, and almost all of you are upright honorable people which i am deeply grateful for.
To you paypal disputers: i hope you can accept the proposed solution.
September 01, 2013, 05:25:56 PM
Arent the discounted bitfuryburner discounted because the pcb can be reused? So you already get the pcb in form of the bitfuryminer. I might be wrong.
Short answer - No.
September 01, 2013, 05:23:37 PM
You have to customize the avalon options for your number of boards. The first 20 remains but the 10 means i have 5 boards. You count your boards that are chained with CAN, regardless if bitburner x or xx and take that number x 2. In my case 10 because i have 5 boards chained.
Isn't the other way around? The first 20 is the number of boards multiplied by 2 and the next is 10 that is always constant.
Quote from burnin's site:
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The most important option is –avalon-options which argument could look like this: 115200:16:10:35:360, this sets the frequency to 360Mhz for a 8 board cluster.
The first part is the baudrate, always 115200.
The next value is the number of miners, this must be the number of boards in cluster multiplied by 2.
Then the number of chips, always 10.
The first part is the baudrate, always 115200.
The next value is the number of miners, this must be the number of boards in cluster multiplied by 2.
Then the number of chips, always 10.
September 01, 2013, 05:06:17 PM
What hash rate are you able to get your bitburner to? I'm trying to find a decent cgminer setting
After many tests it looks like these are my best settings: 28ms, 450MHz, 1334mV, target temp 30°C and it runs with 53°C giving in average 43.8GH which means 8.76GH per bitburner xx.
I would like to run 5 miners with 5 different settings to test it out but till now i still wait for the answer if its possible to do without the first cgminer finding all miners and using them all.
Its sudo ./cgminer -o stratum+tcp://mmpool.bitparking.com:3333 -u *** -p d=256 -o stratum+tcp://zet.dsync.net:3333 -u *** -p *** --avalon-options 115200:20:10:28:450 --bitburner-voltage 1334 --avalon-temp 30 --queue 6
You have to customize the avalon options for your number of boards. The first 20 remains but the 10 means i have 5 boards. You count your boards that are chained with CAN, regardless if bitburner x or xx and take that number x 2. In my case 10 because i have 5 boards chained.
Hey burnin,
I wonder if you could put for every discounted bitfuryburner you may sell 1 useless pcb of a bitburner in. As I understood these parts are wasted anyway for paid preordered assembly, I'd like to get over this and have something I can put on my wall. It's still sexy as hell
offtopic:
Maybe one day my grandchildren will ask "Grandpa, what is it?" - It's an almost finished bitcoin miner, it cost me a fortune and would mine up to 9 gh/s.. "But grandpa, even my watch mines 100x that speed! It's sooo slow" - back then it would mine 0.2btc/day or so when it should have been delivered "Thats a fortune!
" - 
I wonder if you could put for every discounted bitfuryburner you may sell 1 useless pcb of a bitburner in. As I understood these parts are wasted anyway for paid preordered assembly, I'd like to get over this and have something I can put on my wall. It's still sexy as hell
offtopic:
Maybe one day my grandchildren will ask "Grandpa, what is it?" - It's an almost finished bitcoin miner, it cost me a fortune and would mine up to 9 gh/s.. "But grandpa, even my watch mines 100x that speed! It's sooo slow" - back then it would mine 0.2btc/day or so when it should have been delivered "Thats a fortune!
" - Arent the discounted bitfuryburner discounted because the pcb can be reused? So you already get the pcb in form of the bitfuryminer. I might be wrong.
September 01, 2013, 03:21:19 PM
Help! http://s12.postimg.org/5ngwj38gd/331_QN.jpg I received a board with this problem. The component is 331 QN. Is it ok to run it like this?
Should be fine. Just dont put your face too close when you switch it on in case something pops.
September 01, 2013, 03:03:07 PM
Help! http://s12.postimg.org/5ngwj38gd/331_QN.jpg I received a board with this problem. The component is 331 QN. Is it ok to run it like this?
September 01, 2013, 02:44:29 PM
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So definitive answer you are looking for:
Bad news first:
I am by law not obligated to give any refunds for customer specific equipment like the bitburners as stated in my AGB (Terms of Service).
Bad news first:
I am by law not obligated to give any refunds for customer specific equipment like the bitburners as stated in my AGB (Terms of Service).
Comment on this: The Bitburner is, to be honest, not an individually designed, non otherwise sellable product and this might not hold in german courts. Prepare some money for the crazies...
It is a custom made PCB....
Not really. It is an assembly with a prefinished product. Last time I heard such a discussion and it went to court it was specifically important that the product is specifically made for the client, that is after his wishes, and cannot be sold without loss to anyone else.
As an example, if you had used it for, lets say, a computer, the computer would have the same warranty and rules as any bought computer, even if it was specifically assembled for you. BUT: If you had your NAME engraved on it on the side, at that point it became an individually constructed item for the customer.
As we say: In German Courts and the high sea, you are in the hands of chance.
September 01, 2013, 02:18:40 PM
This way You can say each PCB is custom made. There is a difference between custom made something (customized) - which cannot be used by other customers while bitburner is a normal device.
September 01, 2013, 01:56:19 PM
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So definitive answer you are looking for:
Bad news first:
I am by law not obligated to give any refunds for customer specific equipment like the bitburners as stated in my AGB (Terms of Service).
Bad news first:
I am by law not obligated to give any refunds for customer specific equipment like the bitburners as stated in my AGB (Terms of Service).
Comment on this: The Bitburner is, to be honest, not an individually designed, non otherwise sellable product and this might not hold in german courts. Prepare some money for the crazies...
It is a custom made PCB....
September 01, 2013, 01:52:08 PM
Quote
So definitive answer you are looking for:
Bad news first:
I am by law not obligated to give any refunds for customer specific equipment like the bitburners as stated in my AGB (Terms of Service).
Bad news first:
I am by law not obligated to give any refunds for customer specific equipment like the bitburners as stated in my AGB (Terms of Service).
Comment on this: The Bitburner is, to be honest, not an individually designed, non otherwise sellable product and this might not hold in german courts. Prepare some money for the crazies...
September 01, 2013, 01:45:08 PM
Hey burnin,
I wonder if you could put for every discounted bitfuryburner you may sell 1 useless pcb of a bitburner in. As I understood these parts are wasted anyway for paid preordered assembly, I'd like to get over this and have something I can put on my wall. It's still sexy as hell
offtopic:
Maybe one day my grandchildren will ask "Grandpa, what is it?" - It's an almost finished bitcoin miner, it cost me a fortune and would mine up to 9 gh/s.. "But grandpa, even my watch mines 100x that speed! It's sooo slow" - back then it would mine 0.2btc/day or so when it should have been delivered "Thats a fortune!" -
I wonder if you could put for every discounted bitfuryburner you may sell 1 useless pcb of a bitburner in. As I understood these parts are wasted anyway for paid preordered assembly, I'd like to get over this and have something I can put on my wall. It's still sexy as hell
offtopic:
Maybe one day my grandchildren will ask "Grandpa, what is it?" - It's an almost finished bitcoin miner, it cost me a fortune and would mine up to 9 gh/s.. "But grandpa, even my watch mines 100x that speed! It's sooo slow" - back then it would mine 0.2btc/day or so when it should have been delivered "Thats a fortune!
" - That's a brilliant vision of the future, really cheered me up, thanks
. I'd love a bitburner XX pcb on my wall too - to remind me of this summer's fun, games and unfortunately the rather rubbish conclusion. Maybe we could donate any unused bitburner pcbs to an aspiring artist to create some piece of modern art from. If each pcb donated counted as a share of the work then we'd all be rich when it sells for millions to some collector
. 
September 01, 2013, 01:05:12 PM
Hey burnin,
I wonder if you could put for every discounted bitfuryburner you may sell 1 useless pcb of a bitburner in. As I understood these parts are wasted anyway for paid preordered assembly, I'd like to get over this and have something I can put on my wall. It's still sexy as hell
offtopic:
Maybe one day my grandchildren will ask "Grandpa, what is it?" - It's an almost finished bitcoin miner, it cost me a fortune and would mine up to 9 gh/s.. "But grandpa, even my watch mines 100x that speed! It's sooo slow" - back then it would mine 0.2btc/day or so when it should have been delivered "Thats a fortune!" -
I wonder if you could put for every discounted bitfuryburner you may sell 1 useless pcb of a bitburner in. As I understood these parts are wasted anyway for paid preordered assembly, I'd like to get over this and have something I can put on my wall. It's still sexy as hell
offtopic:
Maybe one day my grandchildren will ask "Grandpa, what is it?" - It's an almost finished bitcoin miner, it cost me a fortune and would mine up to 9 gh/s.. "But grandpa, even my watch mines 100x that speed! It's sooo slow" - back then it would mine 0.2btc/day or so when it should have been delivered "Thats a fortune!
" - September 01, 2013, 12:49:04 PM
What hash rate are you able to get your bitburner to? I'm trying to find a decent cgminer setting
After many tests it looks like these are my best settings: 28ms, 450MHz, 1334mV, target temp 30°C and it runs with 53°C giving in average 43.8GH which means 8.76GH per bitburner xx.
I would like to run 5 miners with 5 different settings to test it out but till now i still wait for the answer if its possible to do without the first cgminer finding all miners and using them all.
September 01, 2013, 07:37:25 AM
What he can do for you right now is ship the PCBs assembled excluding the chips DUE TO YOUR INABILITY TO PROVIDE SAID CHIPS and keep all the money.
Maybe he should add shop product "assembled pcb without chips" and put price for it. If customer don't send chips in reasonable time he can downgrade order and refund rest? Should fullfit EU laws. He sends something. There are maybe some EU return policy which may complicate things?
And there are maybe customers who are interested to buy assembled board without chips + suitable (mylar?) stencil to add chips at home..
August 31, 2013, 09:51:31 PM
With the as documented --usb option 
Basically, if you want 1 cgminer to grab 1 random BTB use:
--usb AVA:1
N.B. each BTB is a USB connection, so if you have them all chained together on one USB connection, you can't separate them in cgminer.
If you want it to grab 3, of course:
--usb AVA:3
The driver is Avalon, so you specify --usb AVA:n
Thus you can run as many cgminers as you like and get them to grab a chosen number of BTB USB boards
You can get more complex and choose which ones exactly also, however, the bus/dev numbers can change due to a device disconnect
Anyway to choose a specific device:
lsusb
This will show something like:
Bus 004 Device 043: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART) IC
(and lots of other USB devices)
The ones of interest are the "ID 0403:6001" devices.
So this means Your BTB is on USB bus 4 device 43
To select this device only:
--usb 4:43
Read the README for more complex details (this is all in there)
Basically, if you want 1 cgminer to grab 1 random BTB use:
--usb AVA:1
N.B. each BTB is a USB connection, so if you have them all chained together on one USB connection, you can't separate them in cgminer.
If you want it to grab 3, of course:
--usb AVA:3
The driver is Avalon, so you specify --usb AVA:n
Thus you can run as many cgminers as you like and get them to grab a chosen number of BTB USB boards
You can get more complex and choose which ones exactly also, however, the bus/dev numbers can change due to a device disconnect
Anyway to choose a specific device:
lsusb
This will show something like:
Bus 004 Device 043: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART) IC
(and lots of other USB devices)
The ones of interest are the "ID 0403:6001" devices.
So this means Your BTB is on USB bus 4 device 43
To select this device only:
--usb 4:43
Read the README for more complex details (this is all in there)
August 31, 2013, 08:40:24 PM
What hash rate are you able to get your bitburner to? I'm trying to find a decent cgminer setting
After many tests it looks like these are my best settings: 28ms, 450MHz, 1334mV, target temp 30°C and it runs with 53°C giving in average 43.8GH which means 8.76GH per bitburner xx.
I would like to run 5 miners with 5 different settings to test it out but till now i still wait for the answer if its possible to do without the first cgminer finding all miners and using them all.
Running each board with individual settings is rather complicated at the moment.
Each would need to have a individual USB connection to the host.
To do that you would need to disable hot-plug detection in cgminer.
Then connect one miner launch one cgminer instance connect the next board, launch next cgminer and so forth.
But i am sure Kano can be more specific on how to achieve this.
Thanks.
@Kano... can you explain how to achieve if possible?
August 31, 2013, 08:22:06 PM
What hash rate are you able to get your bitburner to? I'm trying to find a decent cgminer setting
After many tests it looks like these are my best settings: 28ms, 450MHz, 1334mV, target temp 30°C and it runs with 53°C giving in average 43.8GH which means 8.76GH per bitburner xx.
I would like to run 5 miners with 5 different settings to test it out but till now i still wait for the answer if its possible to do without the first cgminer finding all miners and using them all.
Running each board with individual settings is rather complicated at the moment.
Each would need to have a individual USB connection to the host.
To do that you would need to disable hot-plug detection in cgminer.
Then connect one miner launch one cgminer instance connect the next board, launch next cgminer and so forth.
But i am sure Kano can be more specific on how to achieve this.
August 31, 2013, 07:26:30 PM
What hash rate are you able to get your bitburner to? I'm trying to find a decent cgminer setting
After many tests it looks like these are my best settings: 28ms, 450MHz, 1334mV, target temp 30°C and it runs with 53°C giving in average 43.8GH which means 8.76GH per bitburner xx.
I would like to run 5 miners with 5 different settings to test it out but till now i still wait for the answer if its possible to do without the first cgminer finding all miners and using them all.
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