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I've been checking out the discussion here about venture capital consulting, and it's pretty interesting. I think it's cool how people are sharing their experiences and ideas about getting funding for new projects. For anyone wondering about it, venture capital consulting is basically about helping startups and businesses get investment from big investors who are looking for the next big thing.
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Who doesn’t think their idea is a big one? If it isn’t, why then would they pitch the idea? For someone to talk about finding investors or taking loan, they are already confident in the idea, after all, you will have to convince the investor that it can be a very successful project before he/she will invest. So everyone always has that trust. Instead you should talk of risk level. Despite how big you think the idea is, you have to consider the risk involved and compare if it’s worth the possible result in the end, etc.

Good point, as for my reply, more on the focus for the risk if what will happen after if you failed that's why I mentioned about the liabilities, but I get your point that for soeone who believes on his idea he will push for it, either to get investors or to barrow money, as he believes that good chance or big potentials is already on it he just need to proceed and see the outcome, and in terms of getting the interest of investors aside from potentials, there's a big need of providing also the risk and make it understandable that it's possible to take place.
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Would trying to start up the business in your own little way the best option or can you consider bringing a third party into the business who will just serve as a partner that contributes just money?

The best solution is to get a loan if they can give you the amount you want because if you start up with a third party investing in your business, that means he has a share in the business, and any day that he wishes to take back his share, you are capable of losing everything, even if you know nothing about business. I know you will understand this that I will explain. Take an instance of a rich man. They always collect loans so that they will create a passive income business, especially those that engage in real estate. Most of them are not that rich, as it seems like they only lived on loans and no one’s known until after they died. That is when you will know that everything they own belongs to a bank or any loan organisation that they most have loans with. 

So in economics, the approved collect loan to start a business is risky in the sense that if that business doesn’t work, you will end up selling all your valuable items in order to pay off all the loans that have been collected to start up the business. 
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Loans to start it off, once that money is being paid off meaning the startup is being successful, look for angel investors and then go for public investments. However the plans should be clear from the beginning because failure to pay of debts means a huge loss any company and potentially the idea gets wasted until someone else takes over.

This again depends on the scale, how big you expect the business to be. A smaller one might be enough to be completed on a loan and additional next stage funding might be needed only for expansion if necessary.
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Would trying to start up the business in your own little way the best option or can you consider bringing a third party into the business who will just serve as a partner that contributes just money?
Looking at the current situation I seem to prefer to do it by embracing investors rather than borrowing for business ideas.

I have experienced the option of making loans to the business that I did even though it was classified as not too failed but when we do it with loans then of course we will be chased to repay the debts that we do which is not a comfort. Although it is true that debt is not bad for doing business, when we cannot control debt properly then indeed this will make a difficult situation for us to go through so that this will have an impact on the business you are doing.

Instead of something like this happening, it will be more possible if you do business maximizing personal capital first and if possible there are investors this is also a good addition because apart from capital support at least with the presence of investors we will be more able to make some good solutions, especially for internal business problems we become have a big responsibility because it is not only about our capital but about the capital of others who become our investors.

Getting someone as an investor for a business is very difficult. But since it is not impossible dealing with investors should be the first priority. If like-minded people are not available as business partners or investors we must resort to debt. Through this we can speed up our business and repay the debt with the profits derived from it. And gradually in this way later again the business scope can be improved by speeding up the loan and repayment of the loan.
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It depends on the contract. If you can find an investor that isn’t greedy, then that’s a great option because investors are usually better than loans. When you have an investor, if anything goes wrong, it’s his money that goes, you’re not held responsible as he knew the risk. If you take a loan, they don’t care what you did to the money, you have to pay it back. But there are some contracts with investors that can make you consider a loan that you would an investor.
Of course having a contract is a must.You should never do any business with anybody if there is no possible contract, that way everything will put into legality with the presence of a licensed attorney.

Now investors are actually greedy since it’s their money that are being risked in the first place. However, your responsibility here is to act as a business partner, so that you can ensure that everything in your business idea is followed so that the success will be certain, unless if the investor itself will find his own way on achieving the business’ success.

Indeed, that’s all it cost when you have an investor, that’s the major point with which we can say that investors are better than loan because all you have to apply is as much as your intellectual property of the said business, if it fails, you just have to prove that you did your best. But it would be great if you could make it work out because it’ll leave a track record that you’ve done something with an investor and it went well. Just in case you have future ideas and would need investors again. It is something that would boost their confidence.

If you failed ut manage to prove that you already did everything according to your road map then you don't have any liabilities with your investors, unlike with loaning your start up capital, if you failed you need to repay your loan and you are subjected to return the money or else legal actions will take place against you.

It's important to understand the trust you have from your ideas, if you think that there's a big chance that it will prosper along the way, then barrowing money is your option that will allow you to earn everything after the success, unlike with investors they have that percentages with the earnings that your project earns.

Who doesn’t think their idea is a big one? If it isn’t, why then would they pitch the idea? For someone to talk about finding investors or taking loan, they are already confident in the idea, after all, you will have to convince the investor that it can be a very successful project before he/she will invest. So everyone always has that trust. Instead you should talk of risk level. Despite how big you think the idea is, you have to consider the risk involved and compare if it’s worth the possible result in the end, etc.
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It is true that taking loan to start up a business is not that encouraging but depending on the business one ventures into. You have to consider the business state, the capital and the profit and lose you will make in the business not every business needs money to grow it up, as a person applying for a loan to start up a business you have to strategically plan know how much profit you will make and how much loss before the period you are meant to pay back you can't make a profit of 100% and pay a loan of 80% it will shake your business.

When you talk about investing do you mean becoming a shareholder or partnering with somebody?
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Borrowing money will make us uneasy with loans and will also make us a burden on our minds, where when we start investing but haven't made a profit, we will continue to be haunted by loan collections. Over time, we will feel uncomfortable with continuous collections. It's safer when we get investors where the profits are shared by both of us as well as the losses we bear equally, and the advantages of our investors are continuously monitored and given good input for our good in trading.
When someone takes out a loan without having a clear goal then what they do is certainly not reasonable, but someone who takes out a loan must first have a clear goal before deciding to take out a loan and there are some people who decide to take out a loan to develop their business. If their business is running well, this is very good and in this way the business we are running can develop into a better one and will also be able to pay off the loan well.

Having investors who can help us with funds for business needs will of course make it very easy for us to develop the business we are running to further develop, but they certainly know well that the business we are running will have the potential to gain profits, because every investor certainly has it would be impossible for them to be willing to spend capital on something they could not get a profit from.
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 If you have a well thought out business idea but don't have the needed capital to keep it functional, is getting a loan the best option or looking for interested investors?

Would trying to start up the business in your own little way the best option or can you consider bringing a third party into the business who will just serve as a partner that contributes just money?
A well thought business with integrity to grow it to actualization is very challenging and a lack of finance can be very destabilizing to an individual. From the point of view of my environment I'll say taking a loan wouldn't be a great option for me, just the hassles alone pass through to access the loan seems discouraging not to talk of the conditions attached, and all of these can put the individual in a tight pressure corner while struggling to fast meet up in repaying the loan for a new business that is expected to grow from strength to strength gradually which in some cases could take a few years.

I'll prefer to work with investors that have the funds to invest in to my idea and are very much interested in making sure the idea thrive and with patient. They can as well bring in their won recommendations where necessary in guiding the business idea moving forward unlike the banks or any loan source that it's priority is foremost is in the loan and percentage interest only. The investor can also act as co-members or partners, that's what I think.
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I see loaning as set back
I would get an investor to start the business with rather than getting a loan
I know what loaning has done to my parents and I don’t intend getting myself involved with anything pertaining loan .
I’m staying clear off it fr

Borrowing money will make us uneasy with loans and will also make us a burden on our minds, where when we start investing but haven't made a profit, we will continue to be haunted by loan collections. Over time, we will feel uncomfortable with continuous collections. It's safer when we get investors where the profits are shared by both of us as well as the losses we bear equally, and the advantages of our investors are continuously monitored and given good input for our good in trading.
If you wont really be having no option or choice then you would really be needing to take up some loan. Just like the rest been saying that getting any investors on line would really be that so hard on which we know that they cant trust up easily people who do make out some propositions about a project that tends to be created or be mold up. No matter how good it would be but still the confidence and assurance would really be something that will really be in question. This is why on the moment that you dont have any thing that you could really be able to go into then you would really be considering on taking up some loan and would
really be that embracing on the risks involved with it, but thats if you are really that serious on making that project into work or would really be something that will be realized.

On the moment that you are really that still that hesitating on such manner then it would really be wise that you shouldnt be pursuing it but rather you do just simply sit and skip
out on trying to make things happen and pursue on other plans that you do have in mind.
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I see loaning as set back
I would get an investor to start the business with rather than getting a loan
I know what loaning has done to my parents and I don’t intend getting myself involved with anything pertaining loan .
I’m staying clear off it fr

Borrowing money will make us uneasy with loans and will also make us a burden on our minds, where when we start investing but haven't made a profit, we will continue to be haunted by loan collections. Over time, we will feel uncomfortable with continuous collections. It's safer when we get investors where the profits are shared by both of us as well as the losses we bear equally, and the advantages of our investors are continuously monitored and given good input for our good in trading.
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I see loaning as set back
I would get an investor to start the business with rather than getting a loan
I know what loaning has done to my parents and I don’t intend getting myself involved with anything pertaining loan .
I’m staying clear off it fr
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It depends on the contract. If you can find an investor that isn’t greedy, then that’s a great option because investors are usually better than loans. When you have an investor, if anything goes wrong, it’s his money that goes, you’re not held responsible as he knew the risk. If you take a loan, they don’t care what you did to the money, you have to pay it back. But there are some contracts with investors that can make you consider a loan that you would an investor.
Of course having a contract is a must.You should never do any business with anybody if there is no possible contract, that way everything will put into legality with the presence of a licensed attorney.

Now investors are actually greedy since it’s their money that are being risked in the first place. However, your responsibility here is to act as a business partner, so that you can ensure that everything in your business idea is followed so that the success will be certain, unless if the investor itself will find his own way on achieving the business’ success.

Indeed, that’s all it cost when you have an investor, that’s the major point with which we can say that investors are better than loan because all you have to apply is as much as your intellectual property of the said business, if it fails, you just have to prove that you did your best. But it would be great if you could make it work out because it’ll leave a track record that you’ve done something with an investor and it went well. Just in case you have future ideas and would need investors again. It is something that would boost their confidence.

If you failed ut manage to prove that you already did everything according to your road map then you don't have any liabilities with your investors, unlike with loaning your start up capital, if you failed you need to repay your loan and you are subjected to return the money or else legal actions will take place against you.

It's important to understand the trust you have from your ideas, if you think that there's a big chance that it will prosper along the way, then barrowing money is your option that will allow you to earn everything after the success, unlike with investors they have that percentages with the earnings that your project earns.
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Would trying to start up the business in your own little way the best option or can you consider bringing a third party into the business who will just serve as a partner that contributes just money?
Looking at the current situation I seem to prefer to do it by embracing investors rather than borrowing for business ideas.

I have experienced the option of making loans to the business that I did even though it was classified as not too failed but when we do it with loans then of course we will be chased to repay the debts that we do which is not a comfort. Although it is true that debt is not bad for doing business, when we cannot control debt properly then indeed this will make a difficult situation for us to go through so that this will have an impact on the business you are doing.

Instead of something like this happening, it will be more possible if you do business maximizing personal capital first and if possible there are investors this is also a good addition because apart from capital support at least with the presence of investors we will be more able to make some good solutions, especially for internal business problems we become have a big responsibility because it is not only about our capital but about the capital of others who become our investors.
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One of the major problem an average person that has an incredible business idea faces is the ability to raise the initial capital that's required to bring his ideas to life. and in solving this challenge, the available option has always ranged from iether taking a loan from a financial institution or seeking for investors that will take a particular percentage of the company and will in return provide the necessary financial support.

Considering these two options that's one of the easiest to get, taking a loan sometimes comes with a whole lot of strict terms and conditions and  with the high interest rate expecially in my region, it's even deficult to put that as an option. Looking at the case with most investors who are just looking for ways to double there already dormant funds, and care little about the owner of the business, it seems to be another problem dealing with them as most of the ratio they intend getting from you seems to be too big expecially when they already know that your proposed business have an higher chance of doing well in the long run.

I know that as a start-up, these sources could potentially help your business to upscale at a very sharp pace and that from the angle of allowing an investor to buy into your business, you could get other added advantage like getting advice and connection that will help boost your business but I'm just curious to ask;

 If you have a well thought out business idea but don't have the needed capital to keep it functional, is getting a loan the best option or looking for interested investors?

Would trying to start up the business in your own little way the best option or can you consider bringing a third party into the business who will just serve as a partner that contributes just money?

A loan would probably be the preferred choice, but both of these options come with unique advantages and disadvantages. Loans will sometimes be a tad more expensive and require you to put up your personal belongings, like a house, as collateral - depending on the amount of money you need to raise. If everything goes well with the money, you get to keep the whole business and pay down the debt with hopefully a lot more equity at the end of it. However an investor will often want a large cut of the business but are more willing to take a risk, if you don't have collateral to offer they stand to lose a lot more potentially so it is somewhat fair. They can also give tailored tips and advice because it is in their interests to see their investment flourish.
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I'll choose to get an investor because I don't yet have experience running a profitable business with positive cash flow. By finding an investor, I must prepare a pitch deck, which forces me to continuously improve and verify my ideas. I also learn how to convince investors. This is a very good experience. So, besides getting a cash injection , I can learn more about the potential of my ideas because I need to convince investors by answering their concerns.
That is actually quite smart but how hard could it be to try and learn things by yourself first before trying to bring in other people to meddle with your own business? Consultants are okay but once you start bringing people in that could alter the direction of your business, it might become too complicated.

There is no shame in being a beginner and learning how things work first and maybe even making a few mistakes. Seems better than letting the decisions be ran by other people who might even do some work before your back.
Having an investor is not like doing a partnership. You may not understand, but if you borrow money from someone or someone else invests money in your business, then you set a profit limit in which you have to give the profit to your investor. Yes, if you have a partner in your profit, then he can interfere in your business and you can say that your business is in the hands of someone else. But if you have good investors, you only have to give benefits to your investors and not involve them in your business.

I think it is much better than borrowing to find good investors who keep giving them a fixed amount because debt is something that once a person takes, he can never get out of debt. If you borrow from someone and he stipulates that you have to pay interest on it, it can be more dangerous for you. I don't think his business can be more successful than if you have a good investor and you decide that they will have a profit in your business, then you give them that much money every month.
Some people would really be thinking that being an investor would really be automatically considered out to be that some sort of partnership on which its true somehow on the sense that they are part of the foundation
considering on the amount or financial approach but its true that if you would really be that tending to make up some agreement or really just that simply trying clarify that they arent that your partners but rather they are just purely investors who would really be that getting a percentage in speaking about on the profits that they are making and not really that totally have that kind of rights and control on how business operates or on how they would really be working. There's really indeed a difference in between things on which you would really be needing up to clarify if you wont really be liking any hassle about these kind of stuffs.

Going back into the possibility on getting investors online would really be that tough. Why? trust issues would really be the main issues on this one because
dealing up with things or investment in online world would really be that risky specially if you wont be able to know someone whose really that asking for.
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Rather than starting a business with a loan, it is better to save money and then do business. But not everyone may have such an opportunity and situation. In that case, you can start a business with a loan. But it should be seen how much percent interest will be taken by this lending institution or person.
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Having an investor is not like doing a partnership. You may not understand, but if you borrow money from someone or someone else invests money in your business, then you set a profit limit in which you have to give the profit to your investor. Yes, if you have a partner in your profit, then he can interfere in your business and you can say that your business is in the hands of someone else. But if you have good investors, you only have to give benefits to your investors and not involve them in your business.

I think it is much better than borrowing to find good investors who keep giving them a fixed amount because debt is something that once a person takes, he can never get out of debt. If you borrow from someone and he stipulates that you have to pay interest on it, it can be more dangerous for you. I don't think his business can be more successful than if you have a good investor and you decide that they will have a profit in your business, then you give them that much money every month.
You're looking at this investor against debt situation as if it were some sort of cage match. Perhaps, though, debt isn't the devil you believe. convertible notes? It's like you perform as expected; it becomes equity. Use it wisely, debt can be the fuel for the rocket ship

Now, investors? Indeed, they write checks, but they're not only throwing money at you. They got expectations, man. They are looking for development and profits. That can mess with your headspace, just like any debt deal. Don't fool yourself; think of investor money as equivalent to complete independence. Their influence is there, brother, whether they got a board seat or not

The truth is that every route to money comes with guidelines of their own. Not a free lunch, but you have to choose the game you want to play
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I'll choose to get an investor because I don't yet have experience running a profitable business with positive cash flow. By finding an investor, I must prepare a pitch deck, which forces me to continuously improve and verify my ideas. I also learn how to convince investors. This is a very good experience. So, besides getting a cash injection , I can learn more about the potential of my ideas because I need to convince investors by answering their concerns.
That is actually quite smart but how hard could it be to try and learn things by yourself first before trying to bring in other people to meddle with your own business? Consultants are okay but once you start bringing people in that could alter the direction of your business, it might become too complicated.

There is no shame in being a beginner and learning how things work first and maybe even making a few mistakes. Seems better than letting the decisions be ran by other people who might even do some work before your back.
Having an investor is not like doing a partnership. You may not understand, but if you borrow money from someone or someone else invests money in your business, then you set a profit limit in which you have to give the profit to your investor. Yes, if you have a partner in your profit, then he can interfere in your business and you can say that your business is in the hands of someone else. But if you have good investors, you only have to give benefits to your investors and not involve them in your business.

I think it is much better than borrowing to find good investors who keep giving them a fixed amount because debt is something that once a person takes, he can never get out of debt. If you borrow from someone and he stipulates that you have to pay interest on it, it can be more dangerous for you. I don't think his business can be more successful than if you have a good investor and you decide that they will have a profit in your business, then you give them that much money every month.
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This would be the question of equity or debt, I think startups need all the help they can get so investor and equity.   Its also true when you have another investor you are selling part of the business so be comfortable with that and they may not always agree with your strategy while spending the businesses money.

A great many disagreements can occur in investments, I would still prefer someone involved over a bank over my head circling me like a vulture.   Debt also ranks over equity, you have alot less leeway on a debt owed.
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